What is your most controversial opinion

by | Nov 4, 2025 | Children, Libertarianism, Musings | 334 comments

Let’s play a commie game. The title of this post is a frequently asked circle jerk questions on many a commie internet space. Just like, famously, the subreddit unpopular opinion is full of popular opinions, the controversial commie beliefs are quite uncontroversial if you are a commie and if you are not, the sound like standard commie shit. But, to be fair, their point is controversial in the wider society.  It is usually a variation of “I believe you should not have to work if you don’t want to and have everything provided” and “Anyone not my preferred flavor of communism is stupid and evil and a poopyhead”. “Oh and send everyone to reeducation camps”. Boiler plate stuff, really.

Now here we are in our very own little circle jerk space, a rag tag group of sort of libertarian, or people of various identifications that are not good old commies. So the question is what are controversial opinions around here. This is off course a matter of personal opinion, so what opinions do individual glibs hold that they believe are controversial in the wider society. Bonus points if they are highly controversial among wider society and most glibs.

I am not sure how controversial mine are, but I have a few.

Let’s start light.  I think there should be next to no welfare, and if someone lacks the money and cannot find it via voluntary charity, sad but such is the world. I believe that one is not owed a living just for surviving birth.

Some people deserve nothing more in life than to starve in a ditch and it is a matter of justice to allow them to do so. There should be properly placed ditches and parents walking by with their children should point and say “look honey, you watch what you do in life or you may end up like that”.

I consider all government pension systems to be deeply immoral. Old age does not come as a surprise and one should plan for it.

I believe democracy as currently implemented is an idiotic system of government. I believe that less than 20% of the population has a real capacity to understand the issues and control their bias when voting.

I have a very strong tough on crime stance for a libertarian, and I think there should be fairly short but harsh punishments – e.g. one month in solitary – for first offenses, to nip things in the bud. I think attitudes like “a young person making a mistake lets be lenient, first offense etc” are bad in the long run. Also, I think that corporal punishment should be brought back, though by choice: you get 3 months in jail or 5 lashes in the public square, your choice.

I believe when it comes to your primary residence at least, self defense should be absolute. If someone break into your house and you catch them you should be able to shoot them even if they try to retreat / run  away.

I think it is actually correct that children of responsible parents have advantages over children of less responsible parents. People try to get the best for their children, and that is to be encouraged. I do not believe birth is random soul incarnation, each individual is the result of his parents and that same person could not have been born to any other people.

I believe men and women are different and should not be expected to have identical roles in society. I believe feminism is overall a wrong, rather toxic and unnecessary ideology, if one properly applies libertarianism.

There is really no such thing as market failure as long as markets are allowed to work. Almost everything the government touches it makes worse. As long as the markets are not distorted and people make their money fair and square in the competitive space, there is no such thing as undeserved wealth. It is right that those with more money afford better stuff – including healthcare, education, food etc – than those with less.

Any and all calls for reparations for the past are horseshit.

There is no such thing as positive rights.

I believe intelligence is highly genetic and some people are plain stupid. I believe most people are not suited to high level education, but they do not need it for good lives – Albert Jay Nock may have had a small point here. I believe a good deal of modern education is just another attempt to create the New Man and alter human nature, mostly from people who strongly scream their belief in evolution, though evolution always stops at the neck.

Something good rarely to almost never comes without competition and from consensus. In most cases consensus is bullshit.

Being fat is neither healthy nor aesthetic.

Men should do hip thrusts in the gym.

I have a feeling that those opinions are not really controversial enough. So let’s get real. I believe that people who eat hot chilly peppers and spicy foods in general are genetically superior to people who don’t – people who allow a plant to make them their bitch. I think people who like sweet things have primitive, childish tastes. I honestly believe that Belgian beer styles are mostly shit, many overly sweet, overly alcoholic, or both, and does not make up in flavor. Good beer is English ale and Czech pilsner. And most people do not know how to eat and drink. Scotch>Rye>Bourbon>Irish though all are good. Wine > Beer. Coffee should have two ingredients: coffee beans and water. Anyone who adds a third does not really drink coffee. Ass > Tits, though both are great.

BONUS question: another commie favorite is “what would your job be under communism” and the answer is often something to do with teaching the children communism or writing commie songs or something. No one says “I would be an industrial electrician in communism”, because you can be an industrial electrician now and make a good living. This applies to any serious job. So if we lived in libertopia, what would your job be?

I for one, in Europe at least, I noticed that there is a lack of establishments that have specialty coffee, good wine, good beer, good whisky. Now you find places that have one or two of those but rarely all 4. So I would make such a place. But Pie, you will say, you can make it now. Yes, but in libertopia I could make it with blackjack and hookers, so much better. The whorehouse for the person of distinguished taste, one might say. With a nice poker room also and cocaine. Lots of cocaine.

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334 Comments

  1. Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

    I believe both guns and drugs should be available in vending machines – right next to the beer and used panties.

    • Bobarian LMD

      I have no problem with any of those.

  2. EvilSheldon

    What would your job be under communism?

    Fertilizer, probably.

  3. The Late P Brooks

    I want to neutron bomb the middle east. Everyone in the entire region needs to disappear.

    Let Beelzebub sort them out.

    • Brochettaward

      Middle East, Africa, and the Nordic countries just so I never have to hear how socialism works again. Also, because I’d probably be called racist for singling out the shithole brown countries.

    • PieInTheSky

      newsletter?

    • Suthenboy

      Swing and a miss. How about Davos during the height of the WEF orgy? A lot of the ME shit would quit if we did that.

      • UnCivilServant

        No, it would not. The tribals in the region would keep killing and blowing each other up regardless of whether westerners meddled.

        We can spare a warhead for WEF, but it’s a separate problem.

      • Bobarian LMD

        But at that point, it would only be a local issue.

    • Threedoor

      I’m down with this.

  4. The Other Kevin

    I believe the nature vs nurture debate is settled. From experience I think 90% or more of a person’s behavior is due to DNA + the person’s environment the first 6 years of life. Any nurturing after that isn’t going to make much of a difference.

    • Sensei

      That has been my (fortunately mostly indirect) experience as well.

    • (((Jarflax

      75/20/5
      Genes/Environment/Choice

      That’s my perception of the average, choice is that low not because I believe that choices don’t matter, but because I believe strongly that your genes and upbringing heavily impact your character, including your will and discipline, so being able to change your fate is to a large extent part of your fate.

      • The Other Kevin

        I can’t really argue with that.

    • Threedoor

      Yep.
      En utero environment is hugely important as well, see moms diet.

  5. Nephilium

    Drunk driving on its own should not be a crime, but an enhancement to any punishment that comes from an accident or other violation.

    Dueling should be permitted again.

    Universal suffrage is a terrible idea.

    • PieInTheSky

      agree on all 3

      • Threedoor

        Ditto.
        Same with speeding and no seatbelts.

    • rhywun

      Universal suffrage is a terrible idea.

      So much this. It’s the root of most of our current troubles.

      • Sean
      • Toxteth O'Grady

        /pouts, kicks pebble

      • slumbrew

        I mean, not you. You’re a mythical being, anyway.

      • slumbrew

        Plus, I’m going to assume that he truly meant ‘universal’, not just the female vote.

        “Everyone votes” means even the dummies and leeches get a vote.

      • Nephilium

        slumbrew:

        Very much so. I was precise in universal suffrage. What the right balance is, I don’t know. Maybe it’s net tax payers, maybe a random selection from each county, maybe charge an increasing fee per vote cast per person (first vote $1, second vote $10, third vote $100, etc.), maybe only non-government employees, could be any number of things, but universal is just bad.

      • DEG

        maybe charge an increasing fee per vote cast per person (first vote $1, second vote $10, third vote $100, etc.),

        Walter Williams proposed a system like that.

        First vote free. Subsequent votes depend on how much in taxes you pay. You get so many votes per $$ (10K I think it was? Been a while since I read his proposal) paid in taxes.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    There is really no such thing as market failure as long as markets are allowed to work.

    Hear, hear.

    *pounds shoe on table*

    • EvilSheldon

      Capitalism isn’t an economic system. It’s a description of reality. I don’t know if this is controversial, so much as it’s something no one ever thinks about.

      • Raven Nation

        This is another one of those things I kind of fudge on a lot when I’m teaching: I tend to use “free market” rather than capitalism because of the baggage which has been loaded on capitalism.

      • EvilSheldon

        Heh. Same reason I refer to myself as a nonbeliever, rather than an atheist.

      • R C Dean

        I believe the term “capitalism” was invented by Marx as a derogatory term for the system resulting from free markets.

  7. PutridMeat

    Most controversial? Vampires are not people.

    Second most – Take your pick from your list. Pretty much spot on with my thoughts. I just don’t see any as particularly controversial, though so I can’t really say which is most controversial to other people. Democracy outside of representative within a republic is evil? Health ‘care’ is not right? Education is not a right?

    Job? With a snap of the fingers and I am transplanted as I am into a communist society, I’d be right next to EvilSheldon, if mixed in a vat of organic sludge can be construed as ‘next to’. Brought up in a communist society from birth? Hard to say, I’d probably be a very different person.

    • PieInTheSky

      Vampires are not people. – obviously. were people though

    • EvilSheldon

      …I’d be right next to EvilSheldon, if mixed in a vat of organic sludge can be construed as ‘next to’.

      At least we’d have some company!

    • Nephilium

      I saw a meme the other day with someone responding to “stop taking away our health care rights” with, “Yeah! And my gun rights!”

      This got a response of, “No one’s trying to take your guns boomer.”

      Which got a response of, “Right, but I want subsidies to afford more guns.”

      “No one is going to give you money to buy guns!”

      “Huh, is that how rights work?”

      • EvilSheldon

        Clever, but probably wasted.

    • R.J.

      Brought up in a commie society? I’d be shot dead by age 6. I was a monstrous pain in the ass who always pushed limits and laws.

      • Ted S.

        Was? :-p

  8. UnCivilServant

    So if we lived in libertopia, what would your job be?

    I would not survive. The sheer chaotic disorder around me would cause me to withdraw from contact and slowly starve, though the inevitable would be delayed by that fat reserve you despise.

    • R.J.

      No. You would be a writer, and find happiness.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nobody would pay me for my work product. I’d be unable to feed myself. The power would get cut off for nonpayment. I’m too proud to beg or ask for help.

  9. PieInTheSky

    People the bonus question is your job in libertopia not communism.

    • UnCivilServant

      Hey, I read the context.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      I’m in logistics but a lot of what I do is compliance. So something adjacent to what I do now.

      Job under communism: Object lesson.

      Controversial Idea.

      We needed to get off the gold standard but the monetary system that replaced it is worse than the gold standard, especially for those on the lower rungs of society.

      https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

      Controversial Idea for libertarians: We need government as a necessary evil. But normies would be absolutely shocked at how little is needed for a well functioning society.

      • PieInTheSky

        Controversial Idea for libertarians – i think anarchists are overall a minority among persons assigned libertarian at birth

      • kinnath

        Men being what they are, government is necessary.

        Government being what it is, men need protection.

        — some old dead white guy

      • mindyourbusiness

        Here’s where the Pareto Principle applies. The vast majority of government could simply stumble off and get lost and likely almost no one would notice.

  10. UnCivilServant

    As for my controvertial opinions? That’s a trap. You’re looking for reasons to ban people, aren’t you? You’re not getting a peep out of me.

    • PieInTheSky

      dude the US really does not need a moat of blood on the border

      • UnCivilServant

        Of course not – can you imagine the smell of that much putrefaction?

  11. Sensei

    Too good not to share. Vaunted tech pundit George Gilder of Phillips Exeter and Harvard is showing just how old he is.

    “Nvidia’s latest chips are mostly encased in plastic packages and resemble an ant or a beetle with copper wires for legs. Each chip holds as many as 208 billion transistor switches and costs about $30,000.”

    That’s right – a GPU with something like a jillion connections using BGA attachment looks just like 555 timer chip. How the heck are you supposed to read anything else in the editorial with anything but suspicion?

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-microchip-era-is-about-to-end-e71eb66a?st=1EJgVY&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    • UnCivilServant

      Look, the journalismister probaly doesn’t know what a ball grid array even is and would mistake it for something obscene.

      I do miss the old ceramic packages though. They just look cooler than the modern designs.

      • Sensei

        The isn’t just any journalist. This is Gilder who to many is like one of the biggest tech visionaries of the modern computer age. The proverbial Harvard Top Man.

        Instead he just demonstrated he’s an out of touch old man.

      • juris imprudent

        Gilder has always been hit-and-miss.

  12. Drake

    Democracy never works and may be the worst form of government ever invented for anything bigger than a town.

    Democracies always go suicidally crazy – that should have been the lesson they teach about Athens.

    • Drake

      As opposed to Republics that die from corruption if they get rich.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    The world needs ditch grave diggers, too.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    “Democracy” is mob rule in drag.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      That’s why we have checks and balances on democracy itself. The general public needs to be reminded of that.

  15. PutridMeat

    People the bonus question is your job in libertopia not communism.

    God-King Emperor?

    (If I didn’t have the distraction of Fed funded research and technology to pay the bills? Probably programmer or hardware guy, maybe electrician. Perhaps geologist for oil company drilling and exploration).

  16. Ted S.

    Serving the state in the military is no more virtuous or heroic than serving it in any other capacity.

    • Threedoor

      Here hear!
      Same with cops and fire guys.

  17. EvilSheldon

    A few controversial opinions for genpop:

    Democracy is an abject failure.

    All men are created inherently unequal, and should be treated as such.

    It should be legal to kill elected officials, for any reason or no reason at all. (Collateral effects are still not acceptable.)

    Intelligence isn’t the most important trait for a successful life.

    A few controversial opinions for Glibs:

    I don’t really care about abortion.

    Most gun owners don’t really take gun ownership seriously enough.

    Furries really aren’t that bad when you get to know a few.

    • UnCivilServant

      WRT Furries – I don’t hate the people (unless they’ve earned it) I hate their creepy fetish.

      • EvilSheldon

        I have enough creepy fetishes of my own, that I probably shouldn’t cast stones…

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m going to draw a distinction between what is visible in public and what is kept private.

      • PutridMeat

        creepy fetishes

        Is “Ass Wednesday” a fetish?

      • EvilSheldon

        I’ll agree that whatever fetishes one might have, they really should be enjoyed in private, or at least kept to conventions, clubs, and the occasional secluded public restroom.

        But I’m notably shy, so…

    • PieInTheSky

      It should be legal to kill elected officials, for any reason or no reason at all. – so you read A Planet for Texans

      • Chipping Pioneer

        The death penalty should be used only for agents of the state. Any agents of the state. Frequently.

    • PutridMeat

      A few controversial opinions for Glibs:

      I’m more ambivalent than many here I suppose. To the degree I ‘care’, there’s an underlying ‘ick’ factor but the main reason I ‘care’ is the absolute glee and fervor that proponents embrace it, associating it with the pinnacle of being a woman and their political power and autonomy.

      “gun ownership [not] seriously enough” – yep that’s me. I wouldn’t say I consider your point controversial, just wrong.

      “furries” – I suppose it’s not controversial that some of them – you know, they – aren’t that bad, for some metric of how you are evaluating being ‘bad’. On the other paw…

    • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

      Furries really aren’t that bad when you get to know a few.

      I will give you a crisp $100 bill if you wear your fursuit on the next Glib Cruise!

      • EvilSheldon

        Do you have any idea how much fursuits cost? A decent full plantigrade starts at about five grand. And they’re quite fragile, too. It amazes me that people actually wear them outside, much less fuck in them…

      • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

        OK 2 crisp $100 bills

    • Nephilium

      I stand with the Brunching Shuttlecocks in regards to furries.

      • slumbrew

        This is the correct answer.

      • PutridMeat

        Brunching Shuttlecocks

        Is that some sort of fetish involving orange juice, champagne, and a strap-on?

      • Nephilium

        PutridMeat:

        If you were unaware. It was a humor site from back in the day, most well known for Lore Brand Comics, the Book of Ratings (unfortunately, appears the old domain got squatted), and the Geek Hierarchy.

      • UnCivilServant

        That image is too small to read. At least the one the link gives me

      • UnCivilServant

        *caveat I’ve seen it before, so I’m just complaining because gosh darn it I like complaining.

    • Not Adahn

      I don’t get the Furry hate nor the Juggalo hate.

      Except….

      There are a fuckton of furries that have comorbidities that would make me despise anyone associated with them had I not known normie furries.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmULc5VANsw

      • PutridMeat

        normie furries

        Huh. And in the category of “words I’d never thought to see together in a direct descriptive relationship”.

      • EvilSheldon

        I don’t hate Juggalos – I just hate ICP’s music.

        Interesting overlap – Violent J’s daughter is a furry, so J commissioned himself a fursuit so he could accompany her to cons. Ponder that on the tree of woe…

      • Brochettaward

        There are a fuckton of furries that have comorbidities that would make me despise anyone associated with them had I not known normie furries.

        Never met one in meat space, but it’s not the kink per se but the circles they run in and the other things they tend to be into.

      • rhywun

        I find furries far more objectionable than Juggaloes.

      • EvilSheldon

        I dunno, maybe furry-adjacent? (But also kind of cute and endearing, so…)

  18. Chipping Pioneer

    The state is illegitimate, without qualification.

  19. Chipping Pioneer

    Climate change is not in the top 10 environmental threats to humanity.

    • Threedoor

      Not in the top 100

  20. Chipping Pioneer

    Indigenous people aren’t magic.

    • Suthenboy

      If the average IQ of your audience is all double digits, yeah those are controversial. If the average is triple digits none of that is controversial.

  21. Evan from Evansville

    “…there should be fairly short but harsh punishments – e.g. one month in solitary – for first offenses, to nip things in the bud. I think attitudes like “a young person making a mistake lets be lenient, first offense etc” are bad in the long run. Also, I think that corporal punishment should be brought back, though by choice: you get 3 months in jail or 5 lashes in the public square, your choice.”

    This is a fantastic point, especially the choice of corporal punishment, *especially* based on it being done in public. This directly led to an ‘unpopular’ opinion of mine that ’round here, ain’t. It’s the first thing that popped in:

    Public officials convicted of crimes in office should be punished in public. The ‘walk of shame w tomatoes+ given out to the audience to throw’ is a minor punishment. ‘Bigger the crime, the bigger the fruit!’ is an easy metric, but it should escalate along w the crimes committed. The bigger point of mine is to bring back Shame. Convicted offenders, particularly public officials, should be flayed in public, and if warranted, their executed corpse should hang in public or their head on a spike.

    Bringing back Shame is crucial for social primates, in an odd way. As long as your behavior lets others be unhindered, go for it, as we’d likely all agree with. Shame is the social component for ‘enforcing’ that. Reputation matters. Rephrase ‘shame’ to connotate ‘needlessly dependent on others.’ Better fences, better neighbors? Primates wanting to ‘fit in,’ better neighbors. (Yes, must be vigilant about what fits in and what doesn’t. Same-same.)

    • Nephilium

      /insert the entire juvenile delinquent section from Starship Troopers here

      • UnCivilServant

        That book was so forgettable that in the 25+ years since I read it, I’ve forgotten it.

    • juris imprudent

      Primates wanting to ‘fit in,’ better neighbors.

      Fuck that. I don’t care to fit in because I don’t care about other people’s opinions (and least of all about me).

  22. The Bearded Hobbit

    As the father of three daughters I’ve often said, “God made me a feminist.” Not the late-stage man-haters but the idea that women can have more career options than teacher, nurse, or secretary.

    • PieInTheSky

      no need for feminism for that.

    • Brochettaward

      Here’s a hot take for you – feminism is a product of capitalism and the industrialization it brought forth that is paradoxically despised by feminists. No capitalism, women remain in the same roles they had held for millennia. Capitalism and industrialization equalized the playing field in the professional space to allow for women to enter. It created the need to educate them. It created the need to give them a vote. You couldn’t have feminism in the 3rd century BC because they were physically incapable of performing the labor needed to keep society going. Now it’s devolved into a lot of bullshit make work career paths and become self-perpetuating bullshit, but that’s where the political will to give females the same rights as men came from.

      You won’t see many historians connect what I consider to be very obvious dots because most of them are commie shitbags loath to give any credit to capitalism.

      • PieInTheSky

        i said in the past that technological and economic advancement not activism was key…

      • (((Jarflax

        Refrigeration, gas and electric appliances, and the internal combustion engine are what ‘liberated’ women. So of course the supposed advocates for women all hate fossil fuels which produced all three, and upon which they still depend…

  23. Not Adahn

    You confuse me.

    I honestly believe that Belgian beer styles are mostly shit, many overly sweet, overly alcoholic, or both, and does not make up in flavor.

    Is soooo wrong, but

    Good beer is English ale and Czech pilsner. Scotch>Rye>Bourbon>Irish

    Are both correct.

    • Threedoor

      I don’t get Belgians either.

      • (((Jarflax

        Swamp French and Proto Dutch, of course they are kind of weird.

      • Not Adahn

        They’re a little traumatized what with all the conquering.

  24. Suthenboy

    Most controversial opinion? That’s easy.
    There is no Man/Nature divide. We are as much a part of the universe as any rock, star or blade of grass. We are the sentience of the universe, the universe’s attempt to understand itself. The sentience of the universe is not an old scolding father figure that lives in the clouds; it is that asshole that lives in the mirror. I know, I know, but we are working on it.

  25. Chipping Pioneer

    Trump is not literally Hitler.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      He is not Hitler or a fascist but the presidency has way too much power. Regardless of who is in power.

    • rhywun

      *falls off chair*

    • juris imprudent

      Orange Mussolini just doesn’t roll off the tongue as smoothly.

  26. Certified Public Asshat

    Cancel student debt. -don't care about the boomer meltdowns or conservative principles BS or unfairness or "what LesSoN does this teach people?!"Don't care about the "eCoNomICs" Economics is fake and ghey. Every zoomer and Millennial watched banks airlines auto companies… https://t.co/FzJlGcI4jo— AJAC (@AJA_Cortes) November 4, 2025

    *I don’t agree, I just saw it and figured it fit the theme of the post.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Damnit:

      Cancel student debt.

      -don’t care about the boomer meltdowns or conservative principles BS or unfairness or “what LesSoN does this teach people?!”

      Don’t care about the “eCoNomICs”

      Economics is fake and ghey.

      Every zoomer and Millennial watched banks airlines auto companies get bailed out for hundreds of billions, trillions wasted on GWOT.

      Zoomers watched education costs skyrocket and got screwed by lockdowns,

      money printer went brrrrr for all of it.

      Cancel student debt. Do something for actual American citizens.

      Debt jubilee, make it a reality

      • EvilSheldon

        Not gonna lie, he has a point.

        But stealing shouldn’t be made legal just because a bunch of assholes got away with stealing in the past.

        Besides, you deserve your student debt. If you can’t pay it off on your own, it’s because you’re a bad person and you deserve the consequences.

      • juris imprudent

        Economics is fake and ghey.

        If he’s speaking about the dogmatists, I won’t disagree.

    • UnCivilServant

      How about – bill the universities for any unpaid student debt at a rate of 200% of the amount owed. Fine them $500,000 for every activist, NGO employee, Government worker, or unemployed layabout who graduated from their insitution.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Fiduciary duties

    The proposals have raised eyebrows and been met with opposition from some company watchers. Last month, the Take Back Tesla campaign — a coalition of unions and corporate watchdogs — urged shareholders to reject the deal, while proxy advisories Institutional Shareholder Services and Glass Lewis have also recommended investors vote against the compensation package.

    Musk has hit back at those recommendations, labeling ISS and Glass Lewis “corporate terrorists” on an analyst call.

    “Tesla is worth more than all other automotive companies combined,” Musk wrote in a post on X last month in response to a critic of the pay proposal. “Which of those CEOs would you like to run Tesla? It won’t be me.”

    Why did those funds invest in such a volatile and unpredictable meme stock? Maybe they should have cashed out their winnings and moved to another table.

    • R.J.

      Get rid of Elon and the place will collapse into a cautionary tale overnight.

  28. B.P.

    Cincinnati chili is tasty.

    • Nephilium

      BURN HERETIC!

    • Ted S.

      I thought the opinion was that it may or may not be tasty, but in any case it’s not chili.

  29. Evan from Evansville

    OK, here’s my own: Washing my hands? That’s YOUR policy. Not mine. < — I don't do it on my own time. (Work isn't My Time. I do it with snobbery drenching my face.) I learned to not shit /piss on myself long ago. I recommend others also master this basic skill. In toddlerdom. As sentient humans.
    Especially just pissing. WTF is wrong with y'all? WTF is your slapdashy-piss spray?! My dick is two layers of clothing removed from the filthy(!) air 'n world, the most safeguarded bit of flesh I have. (Bit! Teehe!) What, cuz it's my funsy zone and is 'near' my ass, though separated by inches of gluteal fat?! OH NOOOOOES!!!!

    Ya wipe your ass and get shit on it? Well, wash that shit. But more importantly: Reevaluate your technique, cuz, uh. Ya gotta work on that. Take your hand of-shit shame walk to the sink. Then airdry your hands so everyone around *knows* who fucked up. And how bad.

    *The world is filthy. All of it. I don't wash my hands n never really have. I also DO NOT get sick. I honestly cannot remember the last time I was ill. Seizures nor gout count. (OOh, The Gout Count ain't a bad band name, or 'Out for the Gout Count' song title /verse.) Expose yourself, and especially kids, to as much filth as possible. 'We' all know it's how your immune system gets its practice. *LET IT.* The constant soaps n scrubs faking a 'pristine laboratory' is bullshit to keep silly folk from frettin'.

    The world is filthy and so are you. Get over it. The world's much more beautiful when you're not viscerally revolted by Life.

    • Evan from Evansville

      “The constant soaps n scrubs faking a ‘pristine laboratory’ is bullshit to keep silly folk from frettin’.”

      And keeps kids unexposed to bacteria, viruses, et al. This acts as a Human Immunosuppressant Cultural Infestation, leaving folk biologically unable to fight the germs+ that constantly bombard us. It also keeps people afraid of people! They’re so icky! That’s why teens are less likely to risk HICI by getting a hickey!

      Demolition Man, legitimately a prescient flick, anticipated this. (It and Sneakers, about 2yrs apart, remarkably prescient.)

    • PieInTheSky

      If we meet I shall practice Japanese bowing instead of shaking hands…

    • UnCivilServant

      Another justification for wearing gloves when interacting with humans.

    • Evan from Evansville

      AhA! More humans terrified of other humans! This over-indoctrination, where logical ‘ya we should wash our hands before surgery’ was overcome by hallucinatory impossibility of ‘Must Be Constantly ‘Germ Free!’ This allowed the masses to*proudly* acquiesce, sacrificing their liberties in the quixotic quest of bullshit, putting up enough fake barriers to trick suckers into thinking they actually *do* something, and *something* is something we must do! (And we’re DOING it!! STICKER FOR ME! (‘I also voted! Double-sticker day!!’)

      Practice 6 feet ‘social distancing’ and walk in little lanes through the grocery store! It’ll make ya feel aaaaall better! Convincing people the world is terrifying, something to be avoided, really worked. Look how easy it is to squelch society. (Except Top Men at the French Laundry!)

      I don’t get it. Who gives a shit? Ah, yes. Other People. Like COVID, all worried should sequester themselves in their little bubble and get everything delivered and left outside their door. (Can’t have any *interaction!!* HORROR!) The rest of us will continue our lives as if nothing ever happened. Cuz it mostly didn’t. We’d all have been so much happier w/o our opposite coin-sides colliding.

      People are more terrified of Life than they actually *enjoy* it. This far away from eat-be -eaten? Lighten up, Francis.

      • UnCivilServant

        No, I just think you’re not as clean as you think you are.

        Periodic handwashing will also remove the filth from all the other places you’ve been – and just transferred down there.

      • Evan from Evansville

        I am well-aware of how dirty I, other people around me, the air, the water and the sink are. I shower and lather (and sometimes scrub!) and am as visibly clean as anyone ya meet.

        Ya wash your hands, then ya open the door on the way out? Ya just undid *all* what you think you just ‘accomplished.’ See also: Everything else ya touch. And that finger’s gonna find your face soon enough, likely INTO your eye, ear, mouth or nose!
        (“Don’t touch that! You don’t know where that finger’s been!” <– Airplane!)

        No one, nothing, is 'clean.' That's the entire point. If we were 'forever clean,' we'd die *real* quick from whatever pathogen floats by first. Not fretting over this reality frees up one's immune system to get its reps in, and takes away the haunting miasma people feel surrounded by, trapped in.
        There's real shit around to be worried about. Illness, is indeed, one of them. But people have overloaded their Reaction Systems so 'everything= threat.' ('If *everything's* a threat, then nothing is.')

        @People more hand-washy then me, do ya ever feel like ya let yourself down when ya get sick? Didn't do enough? Do ya ramp up efforts afterwards, 'upset' ya booted the ball? If cleanliness begets health, a whole lotta people gotta be wonderin' why they feel so bad a few times a year.

      • UnCivilServant

        It really depends on the material the door handle is made of. You want a high copper content to make it unfriendly to organisms.

      • UnCivilServant

        Also, the ideal exterior restroom door swings freely and can be pushed open with the sole of a shoe.

    • R C Dean

      Well, your nethers are a Petri dish regardless of whether you avoid excreting on yourself. I, for one, don’t want anyone touching my food, including me, who hasn’t washed their hands after rubbing their crotch and/or asscrack. Your mother made you wash your hands before dinner for a reason.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    “Don’t care about the “eCoNomICs” Economics is fake and ghey.

    What about accounting? Funny, I was just thinking about this a little while ago. Those loan balances are sitting on somebody’s books as “assets”. What happens when they get wiped out?

    • R C Dean

      “Don’t care. Not my assets.”

  31. Not Adahn

    Logical/philosophical consistency is neither a virtue nor a benefit. The elevation of math to a moral idea is one of the great failures of humanity.

    • PieInTheSky

      that sounds like utilitarian thought

      • Not Adahn

        I scorn utilitarians. Unless the wind is westerly.

      • R C Dean

        Weirdly, utilitarianism is the bastard child of math and morality.

    • Nephilium

      I would counter that there’s a big benefit in being predictable and understood. If I understand you’re belief system, and it hangs together, I have at least a reasonable idea of how you may react to something.

      • Not Adahn

        I would counter your counter with: very few people’s behavior (which is what you actually want to predict) is congruent with any sort of credal expression. Actions, words, etc.

      • Nephilium

        Not Adahn:

        True, but striving for behavior governed by an internally consistent value system is a virtue, in my mind at least. I do have a tendency to believe and hope for things that are generally improbable.

    • Not Adahn

      Well, there are only four gun ranges in The City, and I imagine they’re pretty antiquated since I doubt they’d be permitted any.. permits to upgrade.

      • Sensei

        Bonus is the main problem is shooting a .50 BMG indoors according to the NYT. Who would have thought?

      • UnCivilServant

        An indoor range is not the .50 Cal’s native habitat. It needs more room to reach out and touch somebody.

      • EvilSheldon

        I’m surprised that there are four.

        Shooting an AR indoors sucks slightly more than shooting anything else indoors…

    • Suthenboy

      Cant read that.
      In what way does target shooting cause brain injury?
      It is clear that writing for the NYT does, but target shooting?

      • Sensei

        It’s junk, of course.

        “So The New York Times did its own testing, and gathered its own data. Reporters measured the blasts of several popular civilian guns at an indoor range, using the same sensors that the military uses. The data showed that some large-caliber civilian rifles delivered a blast wave that exceeds what the military says is safe for the brain, and firing smaller-caliber guns repeatedly could quickly add up to potentially harmful exposure. ”

        The US military has a standard that they cite, but don’t link. In their non-scientific study a .50 BMG exceeds that threshold at that specific range. The rest is a distraction. It’s exactly what I expect and the NYT readership will simply accept it as fact.

      • UnCivilServant

        Concussive shock waves from the gas expansion rattling your brain matter is the theory put forward.

      • R C Dean

        I’ve never been to an indoor range that allowed rifles, period.

    • Gustave Lytton

      To think that the NYT once employed Gatling guns to defend their building from draft rioters.

  32. creech

    You own your life and should be able to end it , or hire someone to help you do so, when you believe your life has no more value to you.

    • PieInTheSky

      but should the Canadian government nudge you in that direction?

      • creech

        Of course not. But the taxpayers shouldn’t be responsible for extending your life either.

    • Brochettaward

      That is a tricky one. A lot of people, particularly when young, go through depression of some kind and at some point think they want to end it. It’s a temporary state of existence for many of them and they will move on with their lives. I don’t think there’s any good way to draw the line here

      • Not Adahn

        The question is: why do you think that overrides the core principle of self-ownership? The moment you concede that “well you don’t really know what’s best for you” then Big Daddy government can step in with their certified experts and dictate literally all of your choices.

      • Brochettaward

        Are they in a mental state where they can actually make rational decisions and know their own best interests? The laws have all kinds of considerations related to the mental state of individuals when they are doing something (some of which are contradictory, but I digress).

      • Not Adahn

        Disagreeing with experts is irrational and proof that you need to have experts make your decisions for you.

      • R C Dean

        Reflexively disagreeing with experts is a sign that you believe you know better than everybody about everything.

      • Nikkodemus

        Have you considered that maybe that “period of time” that most teenagers seem to go through is them waking up to how backwards everything all is?

  33. Gustave Lytton

    Too local news: https://lookouteugene-springfield.com/story/education/2025/11/04/springfield-board-of-education-removes-board-chair-vice-chair-from-roles/

    School district staff doesn’t like school board trying to exercise oversight and accountability over district staff, gets board chair and view chair removed. Completely upside down world. In a proper world, the staff pussies would be fired for cause (insubordination) without a dime of severance. Oh, the people I report to are asking questions about my performance, boo hoo. They aren’t going through me to massage and gatekeeper the answers.

  34. Certified Public Asshat

    Cities were destroyed by cars and highways.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Streetcars and Interurbans allowed sprawl first.

    • UnCivilServant

      Cities are anti-human.

      • Threedoor

        Cars increase freedom.

  35. Not Adahn

    I have no idea what my job would be in Libertopia. But I’d be doing something,

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Question:

    How much of a “food taster’s” job was detecting poison vs detecting plain old spoilage and contamination?

    • UnCivilServant

      A food taster was security theater. The time ingested poisons take to take effect makes it pointless.

      Spoilage should be caught by the head Chef. If he lets it through, he gets the ax, sometimes literally, depending on monarch.

    • Not Adahn

      I always thought it was just deterrence/safety theater. There aren’t many (any?) poisons that would hurt you in such low doses that a food taster would be affected.

      • UnCivilServant

        Dosage is going to be hard to judge. I can’t remember the exact citation, but an inexperienced poisoner once failed to kill their target because they used too much and the family vomitted it all out. (It was arsenic used in that case)

        When was cyanide isolated?

      • EvilSheldon

        Prussian Blue was first isolated in 1704, so probably sometime around there…

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of student loan accounting…

    The lender (which may or may not be the US government) “forgives” the balance. Common practice is to recognize a forgiven loan as taxable income, I believe. So if the student gets a 1099(?) for the balance amount and owes tax, which would likely be (depending on tax bracket) an effective 80% or more writedown, would that be viewed as fair?

    I crack myself up.

  38. JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

    Controversial opinion. Everyone should donate to the Glibs. Time, talent or treasure. Gas, grass or ass. However you want to say it. Nobody rides for free.

    Also, anyone who uses the phrase “my truth” or the word “journey” (unless referring to the band, and even then I’m not so sure), should be exiled to Canada.

    My job under communism would be breaking rocks in a gulag, because my son is such a blabbermouth that I would have been arrested long ago for bad thoughts.

    • UnCivilServant

      Can I use journey to talk about road trips? It’s quite a journey to drive from coast to coast and back again.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        I’ll allow it. I just don’t want to hear about weight loss journeys, product development journeys, home remodeling journeys, educational journeys, etc.

    • creech

      Well you can’t have Real Communism until everyone like us is rounded up and liquidated or worked to death in the camps.

  39. Annoyed Nomad

    Marriage should be a contract for a set number of years that can be mutually renewed by both parties (or one party can choose not to renew and thus, it ends). It would save a lot of divorce costs and make people consider whether they’re in a good marriage. I am in my second marriage and would renew with this wife every time – we’re great together. Obviously, the first wife was the reason I came up with this idea.

    Also, I do my hip thrusts in the bedroom.

    • kinnath

      I used to tell that to people all the time. Marriage should be a 3-year contract with option to renew.

      That rarely goes over well. Even with people who had been divorced.

    • UnCivilServant

      There should be no such thing as community assets, and presumption should be towards the non-filing partner.

      Alimony is bullshit and should be abolished.

      Child support should go into an escrow account that no bureaucrat gets a cut of, and either parent can submit requests for reimbursement with proof of expense that benefits child. At 18, any leftover funds go to child directly.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Pre-nups are wise and thus romantic.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s a shame they’re difficult to enforce and so often overturned at the whim of a judge.

      • R C Dean

        Marriage is a partnership. The rules for business partnerships should apply to assets accumulated during the marriage. This is actually not too far from the way community property actually works. Previously held assets that continue to be held individually are not community property. Assets accumulated during the partnership are.

  40. rhywun

    lol

    Zohran Mamdani didn’t vote for himself as Democrat — but on the WFP line

    Of course he did. We don’t have a line for Communist or even DSA but WFP is essentially the same thing. And a typical leftist sleight of hand – most of its voters are not actually “workers” of any kind.

    • UnCivilServant

      Candidates shouldn’t be allowed to vote – that’s ballot tampering.

  41. kinnath

    What job would kinnath have in libertopia?

    Perhaps we start with where we are now. Grandfather was a house painter. His much-younger wife worked the line at Rath packing after he was too old to paint houses. My father and his brother were the first to go to college — both on the GI Bill. I had my 13 years of public education and then on to public university. University was basically paid for with federal grants and student loans. I’ve been an engineer for 40 years since then.

    This story doesn’t exist in libertopia.

    Dad and his brother would have gotten some level of education through the church and then become laborers like their father. Same story for me most likely.

    I try to reconcile the comfy life that government enabled for me with the knowledge that within 10 years of graduation I was paying more in federal income tax each year than I borrowed to go to school. I’ve paid off that loan 30 times over since then.

    But, I know that’s a copout. So, what ever allows me to enjoy my mead and sleep well at night.

    • Brochettaward

      You can’t really say what would exist in libertopia. The hiring practices would be far different without government intrusion into that sphere. I mean, what if companies gave a simple IQ or skills based test to screen out applicants and hire people with potential? Maybe you wouldn’t have to go to college in libertopia because credentialism would die.

      • (((Jarflax

        College would certainly be cheaper absent Government subsidies, and regulations requiring specific credentials issued by government certified institutions. And absent artificial barriers to entry for the more sedentary professions, I suspect that the physical demands of jobs would be a larger factor in their pay.

    • Sensei

      Crowding out is real.

      Do you think education would cost what it does without FedGov shoving money at it? Do you think that private individuals and groups wouldn’t create scholarship programs for promising students?

      • UnCivilServant

        Do you think that private individuals and groups wouldn’t create scholarship programs for promising students?

        No, I do not.

        They would create in-group funds for their relatives and friends relatives.

      • Sensei

        I know individuals who received scholarships from religious organizations.

      • Threedoor

        College would be much more limited in scope, and probably 4-5 times less expensive.

    • Nikkodemus

      You might have just given away your location Kinnath, FYI.

      (I grew up a few miles from said Rath plant)

  42. PieInTheSky

    I forgot one: the truth is the truth and it should not be suppressed because it may have unpleasant consequences.

    • rhywun

      Hard to believe that is “controversial” now but here we are.

  43. (((Jarflax

    As for my controversial opinion, the one that is probably most controversial here is that individual rights are just the shiny side of the coin and the dull side of the coin, personal responsibility is actually what matters if the goal is having a free society. The West has conveniently forgotten that self-ownership means being responsible for yourself as much as, or more than it means doing what you want. If you do what you want but don’t pay the price for your mistakes liberty becomes license.

    • PieInTheSky

      i would not think that to be controversial here

    • creech

      I swear by my life and love of it that I will never live for the sake of another, or ask another to live for mine.

      • Threedoor

        Amen.

  44. Mad Scientist

    Cheese is absolutely disgusting. Dark Matter is the Luminiferous Ether of our time. People who drive in the passing lane deserve to be run off the road. The Beatles were awful. Did I mention cheese? Fuck that shit.

    • PieInTheSky

      well it is controversial…

      • Brochettaward

        I don’t understand the “passing lane” thing. If you are going faster than everyone in the right lane, drive in the left lane. If someone wants to go faster than you are going, the polite thing to do is to get the fuck out of their way and allow them to do so.

      • Not Adahn

        “Passing lane” is not actually a thing as far as the motor vehicle laws of my state of residence at 16 is concerned.

      • UnCivilServant

        The laws say it, but often it is only used when the officer who pulled you over needs a reason that’s on the books. They really don’t care if you undertake another vehicle who’s riding the left.

    • EvilSheldon

      I also generally don’t care for cheese.

      And the fucking Beatles absolutely ruined pop music for two full generations, so I’m right with you there…

    • PutridMeat

      I don’t know how you can be so right about everything else but go completely off into no-shit-involuntary-commitment-insanity-land with that cheese thing. YOU ARE A MONSTER!

    • Nephilium

      So dark matter is the truth?

    • Not Adahn

      Bah. Dark matter skepiticsm is soooo played out.

      If you want to me a hip contrarian, you need to be skeptical that large numbers exist.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cFgqkXFMEs

    • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

      I love cheese, Gromit Mad Scientist!

    • Threedoor

      There is no “passing lane,” only two lanes of travel. It’s appropriate to do the speed limit in either.

      Common curtiousy to stay right is you won’t do the speed limit.

  45. Not Adahn

    Since when does UPS charge you to hold a package instead of repeatedly trying to deliver it (signature required) when you’re not home?

    • EvilSheldon

      I have all my UPS packages held at my local UPS Store. Might be worth trying out – they don’t charge me anything, and haven’t complained about large heavy ORM-D packages.

      • Threedoor

        My neighbor is my UPS guy. He’s never said anything about the crazy heavy stuff he’s delivered.

        I know he had bad knees but he’s quiet about it.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Since Carol Shitbird started running the place into the ground with sweeping changes. Nickel and diming either as punitive or revenue raising.

  46. Not Adahn

    The incredible deliciousness of fermented foods means humans must have evolved from scavengers.

  47. Timeloose

    Things that would be controversial outside of the Glibosphere: The Universe, Gov, or society doesn’t owe you anything. Anything that you have earned and own should be able to be protected by you with lethal force. Taxes should only pay for basic collective needs of the society you voluntarily joined (18 year old chooses to be a citizen like the Amish with their religion). You can loose and regain your citizenship and join or leave voluntarily. Kids education needs to be individualized so as to not reduce the potential of others while doing the best possible to support their capabilities.

    Things that might be controversial within the Glibosphere: There are some people that will never be productive or capable of even the most basic tasks for employment. There should be a basic income and place to get food to survive, but there will not be any luxuries. Like Tonio, I think work houses and charities are the best answer. No more paying for women and men to make kids that will be a societal burden (eliminate professional babymakers). Free birth control and food (no or). No restrictions on immigration of college graduates or skilled professions. I would rather compete with people here than in a country with 1/10 of my salary.

    Job in Commietopia: Low level engineer in a powerplant or auto factory who does experiments on the equipment instead of his job. Likely dead by now of Liver disease or VD.
    Job in Glibtopia: Space elevator cable manufacturing engineer or a asteroid refinery mining engineer.

    • PieInTheSky

      college graduates – from diploma mill number 35 for the illiterate engineer

      • Timeloose

        Requirement of College in the US, so at least we would know what diploma mil (and Libertopia would eliminate any uni that adds no market value). Although I think I just created a market with the above sentence.

        Also better than a boat load of actually illiterate people with no skills but manual labor.

    • EvilSheldon

      I had an interesting TwiX argument with a highly accomplished, otherwise-extremely-intelligent friend, regarding the concept of a universal basic income.

      She was of the opinion that a UBI would allow people to intellectually and artistically flourish, now that they aren’t reduced to soul-crushing labor to stay alive.

      I opined that her class associations (top-10 graduate education, started and ran several successful businesses, Olympic athlete) have not given her enough experience with losers, to her misfortune. The sad fact of the matter is that many people aren’t capable of anything productive or even responsible, and if you pay them for existing, they’ll spend their days smoking weed, playing XBox, and masturbating. Which is fine, but I resent having to subsidize it.

      • Suthenboy

        The cost of the unseen…..
        Consider the cost of having those people not staying home smoking weed, playing video games and ‘batin’. They fuck up everything they touch.
        Perhaps sterilize them and subsidize their pot?

      • Suthenboy

        Oh, and they cant vote.

      • Timeloose

        You need to create incentives to make less of the later. This the free food comes with mandatory birth control. I also don’t think we should make a poor soul that was given a genetic goose egg a life of misery or or jail.

        Also I think this would create more charity both within and outside of the family. Similar to the late 19th and early 20th century.

  48. Bobbo

    I like historical Russia,
    Fuck the Poles and Lithuanians

    • Bobbo

      Job in Glibertopia?
      Orphan hunter

    • Nephilium

      That… would not be a wise statement to make in the pierogi belt.

      • Bobbo

        I know, but pie asked us, so……
        Im not the only one here who thinks that way.

  49. Threedoor

    Roundabouts should be the dearest form of intersection in existence. So rare that when you encounter one it’s something to tell your grandchildren about.

    Abortionists should be put to the gallows.
    Women that hire them should receive ten years of hard labor.

    The death penalty should be the default in murder cases, not the exception.

    The death penalty should be expanded to rape cases.

    Auto sears and suppressors should be in bubble packaging on the endcaps at gas stations.

    Opioids should be OTC
    Narcan should not leave the operating room. Lobe by the poppies, die by the poppies.

    The CDL should be eliminated.
    Along with the federal department of transportation.

    I’m sure I have many more.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      I like roundabouts and think there should be more of them.

      • Threedoor

        They are inefficient, costly to make and maintain, off camber, use too much land, cause too many traffic slowdowns, cause a great amount of wheel and tire damage.

      • Threedoor

        And in almost every case roundabouts in the U.S. are only built because the federal government under Obama changed policy to fund them, usually to the tune of 90%+ of total cost.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        I disagree. They speed things along relative to all-way stops and traffic signals. They don’t need to be off-camber. It’s not one-size-fits-all, but I can thing of several places near me where they would be a big improvement.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        How is continuous flow of traffic inefficient? Costly, maybe, but that depends on if you are comparing it to stop signs or electric signals and if you are factoring in the decrease in crashes.

      • slumbrew

        Good roundabouts exist.

        Most of the “modern” ones suck. Adding stop signs and/or traffic lights to them is tarded.

      • CatchTheCarp

        There are still lots of people who have no clue how roundabouts work – the plethora of YT dash cam videos confirms this. The same with YIELD signs.

      • UnCivilServant

        You can’t judge a traffic control system based upon how the New Soviet Driver would interact with them. You have to deal with the Idiots in Cars that populate the real world.

      • slumbrew

        I think “don’t know how to use it” is the root of most people’s objection to roundabouts (traffic circles, in these parts).

        The one I linked to is glorious as you jam through there at 70 miles an hour (it’s at the end of Route 128).

      • UnCivilServant

        Knock it down – the purpose of a roundabout is clearly to bring all traffic to a standstill in four directions.

      • slumbrew

        left hand drive + roundabout is not something I’d be altogether comfortable attempting in traffic.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        I like roundabouts and think there should be more of them.

        My annoyance is that a driver trying to enter has no idea what the oncoming driver is going to do. Turn right? Go straight. By the time you’ve figured out that he’s turning right it’s too late to pull in front of the next car. Who may or may not be turning right.

        Turn-signal usage in general is abysmal but in roundabouts they are non-existent.

      • DEG

        left hand drive + roundabout is not something I’d be altogether comfortable attempting in traffic.

        I did that in Australia. Got honked at. No collisions. So not bad.

      • slumbrew

        Turn-signal usage in general is abysmal but in roundabouts they are non-existent.

        I do signal my exit in round-abouts but I am indeed in the minority.

      • Threedoor

        Concrete is not cheep.

        Roundabouts are better statisticly than four way stops.

        Worse in every metric than other forms of standard intersection design.

        In moderate to heavy traffic they become de facto four way stops.

        The fools in WA state take out lights to put them in, even on highways. Highway 14 at rush hour becomes a 10-15mph crawl around camas.

      • Threedoor

        That is highly unusual Slum, I ran into one like that in Germany, it must have been 700-800 feet on the ID and you could go through it at speed.

        There is a good small one in Kennewick Washington off the south West end of the bridge, it’s the only logical intersection design for the cramped space, even then it can be problematic in a truck or if towing.

      • Threedoor

        Toxteth, the plants and garbage (art) they put in the center of them is intentionally designed to block the view.

        Roundabouts are designed to slow traffic and make people not want to drive. The progs call them “traffic calming devices” for a reason. They want you out of your car. They hate cars and the freedom they bring.

        Ironically they are more dangerous for peds and cyclists.

    • Threedoor

      Rarest.
      Damn autocorrect.

      • Not Adahn

        “Dearest” works in context.

    • Suthenboy

      “The death penalty should be expanded to rape cases.”

      That has been tried. It resulted in a very substantial increase in rapes turning into murders.

      • Threedoor

        Which many are now.

        Cook em.

        In public.

    • Nikkodemus

      Hard no to the default on rape cases being the death penalty.

      Women lie. (ask me how I know)

  50. The Late P Brooks

    This story doesn’t exist in libertopia.

    Private patrons have always existed. Intelligence and hard work are more likely to be recognized and rewarded in libertopia than in the land of government subsidized lowest-common-denominators.

  51. slumbrew

    Controversial with normies:

    Fucking 17 year old runaways does not make you a pedophile; ephebophilia and pedophilia are wildly different things – malum prohibitum vs malum in se.

    I still think you’re a scumbag. Actual pedophile should kill themselves.

    • Brochettaward

      While I’m not sure exactly how young Epstein went, he wasn’t technically a pedo.

      • slumbrew

        Scumbag, yes. Pedo, no.

        I think it irks me so much because ‘pedophile’ invokes an instant, visceral reaction of disgust whereas “sleezy grifter” doesn’t – all by design, I imagine.

    • grrizzly

      Is it really controversial? The age of consent is 16 in 30 US states and it’s 17 in 8 states.

      • slumbrew

        Controversial in the sense that you get the stink eye if you correct people on “Epstein was a pedophile”. I imagine ‘ephebophile’ isn’t in wide use.

      • slumbrew

        And good to “see” you, stranger.

  52. Sean

    I believe that people who eat hot chilly peppers and spicy foods in general are genetically superior to people who don’t

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  53. Translucent Chum

    You don’t need to wash your hands after taking a leak unless you get some on yourself.

    • Timeloose

      That reminds me, glory holes are mandatory in every restaurant with spicey foods.

      • EvilSheldon

        Okay, speaking of creepy fetishes…

      • Timeloose

        It’s not mandatory that you use them.

    • Bobbo

      You should wash your hands Before taking a leak. Hand interact, your dick is clean already.

      • Threedoor

        I mechanic and fabricate.

        Always wash prior to penis contact.

      • R.J.

        Nothing like metal shavings on the pickle.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      A Harvard man finishes at a urinal and washes his hands, while a Yale man walks out without doing so. The Harvard man, says to the Yalie, ” At Harvard we wash our hands after urinating.” The Yale man replies, “At Yale, they teach us not to piss on our hands”.

    • slumbrew

      Per Dr. Drew, anywhere below the beltline, you’re picking up fecal coliform regardless of how careful you are.

      • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

        Exactly. If you fart, and I know you do, your junk isn’t as clean as you think.

    • kinnath

      Carlin said if you have to wash your hands after touching your dick, perhaps you should wash your dick at the same time.

  54. Not Adahn

    The state should not be permitted to execute anyone. Also, “needed killing” should be an affirmative defense to homicide.

  55. Brochettaward

    Maduro has made the wise decision to mass hand out rifles to the people to ward off US intervention. I’m sure at some point the commie pondered the chances of them being turned on his regime.

    • slumbrew

      5D Chess!!!!!111!!!

  56. Beau Knott

    Opinions, of varying degree of controversial:
    For the vast majority of tasks or training, video is worse than useless.
    JavaScript is the worst programming language.
    Collective nouns are dangerous to clear thinking. This is especially true for un-enumerable collective nouns.
    Software quality has been in free-fall since at least 1999.
    Software tools are increasingly built for developer convenience rather than as tools to assist in building software for end users. (E.g., React and Vue)
    Emojis are modern-day hieroglyphics.
    Spelling matters.
    Distinctions in meaning are embodied in words. “We” are murdering that significance. (E.g., ‘fewer’ vs ‘less’.)

    • slumbrew

      JFC, if I’m assigned another mandatory training with unskippable video, I’m going full postal (which would be unfortunate, as I work from home).

      Just give me something to read.

      • Sensei

        Usually for regulatory purposes it is X hours of training on some subject. Hence the the un-skippable training.

        However, one of the service providers that does some of our training allows you to turn on closed captions and run at 3X. After that you adjust volume to zero. I’ll take the small win.

      • Nephilium

        The worst is when it’s someone reading the TEXT THAT’S BEING DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN! This is the majority of the “training” classes that the company I work for are.

        I can read faster than you can talk.

      • slumbrew

        Last couple had no transcript option (how that’s not an ADA violation, I dunno – I should go all Alinsky on them and hold them to their own rules).

      • Brochettaward

        I worked for a company that had video trainings that you couldn’t skip on computers with no sounds or subtitles. Square that circle.

      • Nephilium

        Brochettaward:

        Current company I got dinged for not tracking time to tickets. I pointed out that the tracking system has flaws, was cumbersome, and frequently would error out. I was told to just estimate my time instead of using the tracking system. I pointed out that would not be accurate data, and was told to get as close as possible.

        So… non-accurate information it is. I put in the same time on whatever the oldest ticket is daily.

    • UnCivilServant

      Emojis are modern-day hieroglyphics.

      In that you are incorrect. The very name Heirglyph comes from it being a secretive text used by an elite caste of priests and scribes that the vast majority of the population could not understand.

      Emojis ape simple concepts in a way culturally understood by most people. Indeed, they have a mutable meaning by context and user.

  57. DEG

    I honestly believe that Belgian beer styles are mostly shit, many overly sweet, overly alcoholic, or both, and does not make up in flavor.

    That’s bait.

    Good beer is English ale and Czech pilsner.

    You’ve redeemed yourself.

    My most controversial opinion? Anything other than a V8 is a Communist Conspiracy. OK… except maybe V10s, V12s, W12s, V16s. Straight 6s like in Jaguar E-types and Triumphs. Rotary engines are cool too. OK… I guess I’m not doing controversial opinions right as I’m already walking this back.

    Umm…. hmm… how about:

    While I like the Lee-Enfield, it is nowhere near as good as its fans think.

    Poutine is food of the Gods.

    Some of Heinlein’s later works (“The Number of the Beast” comes to mind) were slogs to read.

    • Mad Scientist

      Air cooled twins and singles are also lovely.

    • Suthenboy

      Bolt actions really have not improved much or at all since the K-98. There, I said it.
      Also, single shots are superior.

      • DEG

        K-31.

        The K-31 is also really close to being a semi-auto. Just add a gas port plus Garand-style operating rod and you have a semi-auto.

      • EvilSheldon

        Objectively false. The Accuracy International AW action, for one example, is far better than anything the Mauser Gewehrfabrik ever put out, in terms of durability, reliability, and ease of use. And that’s just one example.

    • kinnath

      The V6 in my 350Z is a lovely engine.

    • Not Adahn

      Anything other than a V8 is a Communist Conspiracy.

      Not a fan of spicy Bloody Marys?

      • DEG

        You know, I didn’t even think of the drink.

        And honestly, I’ve never had a Bloody Mary. When I have boozy brunch, it’s Irish coffee or beer.

      • Not Adahn

        We’d make them for alumni days. Unfortunately the make you thirstier with predictable results.

    • Threedoor

      Time enough for love took me over a year to read, I hated nearly every page of it.

      It is not fit for human consumption.

  58. The Late P Brooks

    You should definitely wash your hands before taking a piss if you have been working with aircraft chemical paint stripper.

    • Mad Scientist

      Or habaneros.

      • DrOtto

        I had Hattie B’s Nashville Hot Chicken 2 weeks ago. Shortly after, I rubbed my eye. Big mistake.

      • Threedoor

        Learned Otto’s lesson with capsasin cream.

  59. slumbrew

    Speaking of dummies voting, it took me all of 5 minutes to do so, which was nice.

    Once again, I think I hurt the feelings of the old biddie by the door when I declined the ‘I voted’ sticker. I don’t need to broadcast my shame.

  60. Evan from Evansville

    Well done, Pie. A fantastically amorphous prompt primed for glibbening.

    I’m right and you all are wrong. That wasn’t so hard, nor controversial, now was it?

  61. The Late P Brooks

    The V6 in my 350Z is a lovely engine.

    I hate V6s. Straight or boxer 6 cylinders are muy bueno.

    • Sean

      Audi’s 2.7T was a lovely engine, when it wasn’t blowing up turbos…

      • DrOtto

        I just put another timing belt on mine last week.

    • Threedoor

      Buick 231 has entered the chat.

  62. DrOtto

    Is Ron Jeremy’s job still available? I’d like that job in Libertopia.

    • slumbrew

      Raping women?

      Pretty sure that violates the NAP.

      • EvilSheldon

        Interesting trivia – Ron Jeremy’s father was a professor of physics at Queen’s College, CUNY, and his mother was a polyglot book editor who served in the OSS in World War 2.

      • juris imprudent

        That was his hobby, his job was fucking them when they both got paid.

      • Threedoor

        Theft of services.
        Also a NAP violation.

    • Bobbo

      Good, fuckheads

  63. The Late P Brooks

    Software quality has been in free-fall since at least 1999.

    I know absolutely nothing about writing software but I would bet “unlimited” disk space played a huge role in that decline.

    • DEG

      Letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry code is a bigger problem.

    • slumbrew

      Much cheaper RAM was the bigger contributor.

      • Nephilium

        And CPU cycles. Why code for speed or elegance when you can just throw more CPU and memory at it?

    • Mad Scientist

      Agile played a huge role. Incentives changed to cranking out crap every week or two.

      • Beau Knott

        I gotta say that it really depends on what ‘flavor’ of Agile. Scrum is a crime against humanity. OTOH, I, with help and no small amount of bottom-up buy-in*, introduced a subset of XP [Extreme Programming] in my team. We went from consistently late and with less than committed features (5 months late & about 80% complete on the project delivered as I took over) to 100% on-time, with 4 deliveries in 12 months and 100%, 110%, 118%, and finally 120+ percent of committed content. Turn-around time on new feature requests for the current project dropped from 2+ weeks to 2-3 days. Defects plummeted.
        So of course I was terminated just after release 4 rolled out ;-\

        *Bottom-up buy-in is critical to success. I’ve never seen a top-down, imposed, ‘agile’ approach succeed.

      • Nikkodemus

        Whomever created agile deserves the most aggressive form of bone cancer.

    • Sensei

      Really it was more RAM and processor power. The further you move from assembler to high level languages the more resources you use. Once disk space became cheap you just put in library after library.

      • UnCivilServant

        Coders should be certified in bare metal programming before they are allowed up a rung. They must optimize resource usage at leach level before promoting.

    • Threedoor

      Makes sense.
      I hate most OSs and word processors after about 2002 or so.

      Word 5.1 was peak.
      Mac OS 7 was as far as that needed to go.

  64. UnCivilServant

    “Thicc” just means fat and isn’t attractive. The ideal body shape is more svelte.

    • Bobbo

      Wrong on all counts,
      Hips boobs and nice curves are just fine

    • Threedoor

      Thick is fat+youth, tight skin over rolls and the cottage cheese hasn’t set in yet.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    Really it was more RAM and processor power. The further you move from assembler to high level languages the more resources you use. Once disk space became cheap you just put in library after library.

    My point, which probably completely overlaps what everybody said, would be that without constraints on the available space, bloat and inefficiency set in.

    • kinnath

      Software gets slower faster that hardware gets faster.

      • Mad Scientist

        But now it has emojis!

      • Sean

        🙂

    • rhywun

      I disagree on all counts that everybody made.

      Credentialism is not the answer.

      The more people coding, the better. Crap can be weeded out but shortages are difficult to overcome.

      Cheap storage and memory has led to an explosion in productivity.

      etc. etc.

  66. R.J.

    Turbo 4 cylinders in large cars are retarded.

  67. R.J.

    Insurance has become a commie abomination and should be abolished.

    • Nikkodemus

      Insurance was a scam from the beginning, even without government intervention.

  68. Threedoor

    I get it.
    Dead thread.

    What would I be doing in libertopia? Probably the same thing with less taxes, maintaining rock smashing equipment. Except I wouldn’t have joined the army and wouldn’t have collected all the ortho injuries I have because of said stint, also wouldn’t have been run over on my motorcycle by another solider while playing army. So fewer injuries and a longer time spent working a real job.

    In communism?
    Probably repairing rock smashing equipment there too. I’d be the guy that put new handles back on your sledge hammers.