I have talked about doing this open post to get people talking and perhaps laughing a little for a long time. Every time I talk myself out of doing it. Well, I finally sat down and did it.
What would a libertarian car be? Tonio and Brett helped me figure that out, albeit indirectly. It would have to meet three criteria:
One: It has to be logical and make sense, above all. It would be hard to argue with the fact that it was a car, unlike this McLean Wheel, which for all intensive purposes looks like something from South Park (NSFW). Clearly, the McLean Wheel represents some eldritch branch of socialism.
Two: It could not be a car produced under communism, or any other type of collective, such as the Trabant.
Three: It would have to be something produced by a singular vision of a hard working businessman, something which anybody could own and understand. Something truly American! Yet… Nobody would buy it and sadly, eventually it would cease to be made.
It’s a horrible thing to face, but apparently the most Libertarian car in existence is…
A Crosley station wagon.
Let me hear your thoughts, curses and other people’s thoughts in the comments below!
Bonus! The Most Glibertarian Car…. In the World!
I was going to say it was a Dodge Viper with a “Gary Johnson for President” bumper sticker on it, but then I discovered the Lapin Agile, a car constructed of canvas sheets, with a Chrysler L head engine, and an interior made of alligators.
You heard me right. It’s made of alligators.
The crosley looks unstable, like it would rather roll over than stay on its wheels.
On the other vehicle, replace the canvas with composite armor. This may require upgrading the engine and suspension to handle the weight, but I’d rather other vehicles bounce off of me than be driving a tent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_IHv5Jw-bg
Anybody can own one of these. You just need to wait a long time and have a lot of money.
Looks like something from Speed Racer. In other words, awesome.
Not the Tucker?
That would have been my pick.
killdozer?
Oooo…. that’s another good choice.
Killdozer was my choice, but it can be argued that it wasn’t a car.
the Lapin Agile, a car constructed of canvas sheets, with a Chrysler L head engine, and an interior made of alligators.
Fucking beautiful
It sounds like you’re talking about the Muntz Jet
That’s a good one!
My idea of the true libertarian car:
LOCOST: The Underground Cheap Supercar Slayers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZxgAkbJFQ
I passed a McLauren on my way to work this morning. First one I’ve seen in the wild.
That’s a good example of how out of place I am in fancy-pants Carmel. There are at least a few around. Just parked on Main St cuz it ain’t no thang.
There was a bar owned (supposedly) by gangsters. Often saw their Lamborghini, MClaren or similar parked in front. (I’m sure for show. But I wonder how big they were. Hopping place.)
If you’re talking about the most freedom for the most people, it’s hard not to say Model T, produced by an insane crackpot ignoramus who somehow contrived to build what was probably the largest and most successful business enterprise of its day, according to a PBS biography I watched.
That breaks rule #3. The Model T was wildly popular, unlike libertarianism.
I passed a McLauren on my way to work this morning. First one I’ve seen in the wild.
Mclaren F1 or GTFO
There’s a collection of Crosleys at the Cincinnati/NKY airport. Crosley also owned the Cincinnati Reds and the stadium was named after him.
I nominate the Ruxton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruxton_(automobile)
Excellent choice.
After posting the link to “Through the Fire and Flames” this morning, I fell down a bit of a rabbit hole of reactions to the song until I ended up at The DragonForce Drummer reacting to a cover of his part of Through the Fire and Flames.
There was a local auction years ago that I
Sadly
Missed. The crosley sedan delivery in it went for $600.
They tend to go for peanuts. When you see James May drive one in modern traffic you see why. Still, I like them and would own one, of just to see all the engineering.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkhX0g-57Q0
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/5WeUHN-w5FQ
That really is a libertarian car: Produces no power. Annoys everything around it. Cream-colored.
That thing looks terrifying.
Handguns more accurate than you are, ranging in price from “pricey” to “practical joke.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnonnyo2NU
As a rule most modern firearms will be more accurate than the user.
I’m sure my Ruger MkIV is more accurate than I am. And it only has three digits in the price!
Not a pistol, but I paid $79 for my Mosin Nagant. I did pretty well with just irons.
Izmash 1943 date, got a soviet refurb from the counterbored muzzle. I have no idea how many thousands of rounds had to have run through that thing before I got it, and I still hit a 4″ target reliably with my eyes at 100 yards. If I could see better I could have done better.
Tested at seven meters? Why bother?
He wanted to shoot the guns and that was the range where they were?
Surely a libertarian car would not require roadz. Perhaps something in a hovercraft?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmbNZ8ZAcwU
That is where my brother lived until he moved back to Texas.
They’re full of eels.
Good money to be made in the eel trade.
Not Adahn – question from the dead thread. I’m not disagreeing, but I can’t relate a Japanese word for “5” to any form of “perfection”. Do you happen to know the word? It gets tricky because Japanese has a lot of number counters for objects that are different words.
The reason “4” is unlucky in Japanese and Chinese is one way that it’s pronounced is “shi” which sounds like a word for death in both languages.
My knowledge is very shallow, but I was told that the connection comes from the five strokes of correct and from there to perfect things having five of something.
AI and the first page of Google drew a blank.
完璧 かんぺき – perfect, complete, flawless
Pronounced “kanpeki”. First character is six strokes and means “perfect, complete, flawless” second character is “jewel or ball”.
something which anybody could own and understand.
Own if you had a lot of cash? Or car for the masses. If you had cash, how about a Vector?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Motors
I did love those. Never seen one in person.
Doug DeMuro has like an hour long video on on the W8.
The vector graphic CRTs are a just plain awesome if a bit dumb.
How’s your Vector, Victor?
Roger.
When I was a kid I got to drive one of those to/from the turntable at a car auction.
I couldn’t figure out how to open the door from the inside.
I looked at one once when I was in high school.
Heh. I scrolled down as far as the Trabant pic and thought “Crosley!!”. Great Minds, etc. I’m old enough to have seen them on the road. My mom used to get a ride to work in Crosley wagon. Mr Crosley, to his credit, proved decisively that sheet metal was not suitable for engine blocks.
Yes! I have always wanted to work on one and see how that was accomplished.
*grinds teeth*
Have some tack!
I was expecting it to be porpoises.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy2zo20Drdc
Serving a youthful porpoise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3LMSflEN54
I agree, he should of* done better there.
*That hurt my brain to type.
shudda wudda cudda.
Personally, I could care less.
all insensate porpoises
Better than immoral porpoises.
The Delorean is the most Libertarian car.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMC_DeLorean
Meets criteria 1,2,&3, plus the singular obsession of the owner lead him to traffic cocaine to keep the company going.
My issue is the huge state subsidies done to have it produced in Northern Ireland. It’s production was pure pork.
Shares parts with manual transmission AMC eagles.
Parts made in France.
Underpowered and couldn’t meet promised specs – maybe the official LP car.
We know it’s a libertarian vehicle because the owner could have used it to kill baby Hitler and he didn’t.
Can an object be libertarian?
Or can an object only be said to be the product of a libertarian mind?
Another non-surprise.
Bayer Wins Supreme Court Challenge Over Roundup Litigation
The 7-2 decision will help the company in its bid to resolve thousands of claims that the popular weedkiller caused cancer
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/bayer-wins-supreme-court-challenge-over-roundup-litigation-9a8b80fc?st=J5VfsD&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
So I can go back to drinking Roundup?
Good.
I wondered if this happened. Explains why the Brits don’t have air conditioning.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/air-conditioning-torn-from-homes-under-net-zero-clampdown/
Those planners are being sent to prison for homicide, right?
It probably happens all over Europe too
I have shocking news for anyone who was in the military (or is even aware of what MRE is). It turns out that it’s filled with a shit ton of unnatural shit that is dangerous for human consumption and that’s banned in other countries. But don’t worry, friends! MAHA is on the case!
Though apparently the ‘testing’ here also expanded to DFAC food. Which again, anyone who has eaten at DCAC to see the industrial grade slop and powdered eggs they serve wouldn’t be surprised.
You don’t want to know how they season the Yakisoba mystery meat. You just don’t.
I had boxes of MRE’s that I “acquired” off an unsecure truck outside the barracks one night.
Still have them.
One of my buddies had a couple cases of MRE’s he had gotten after a field op got called early that he kept in his garage.
His wife could not figure out why she was gaining weight (not a lot, but she was skinny enough to notice).
Turns out she was eating one MRE for lunch in a bid to save money.
1 MRE has over 1000 calories, not to mention the preservatives and what not.
Once I got out of artillery, I only ate an MRE when I absolutely had to.
Just yesterday NPR had a story-
https://www.npr.org/2026/06/24/nx-s1-5859270/u-s-military-works-on-building-a-better-meal-for-the-troops
Headline is completely misleading. It’s about developing artificial protein that can be created in the field so troops don’t need supply lines.
Armies used to operate that way all the time – they called it hunting and foraging.
The peasants didn’t like it, but it worked for thousands of years.
And you thought the vaccines were bad.
🤮
Fuck no.
You do not feed your soldiers bacterial sludge, not even yoghurt.
I think we need to bring back hardtack for these little bitches complaining about nutritious MRE’s.
Rodent and rat infested crates of hardtack that may break your teeth after dousing them in liquid.
DFAC limits the amount of meat you can have.
Offers you all the carbs and seed oils you can consume.
Chain of command punishes you for being fat and having ortho injuries.
Sends you to a dietician who tells you to eat more carbs and run harder.
Rinse. Repeat.
The Delorean is the most Libertarian car.
It’s a piece of shit and a terrible half assed compromise from its original concept, so…
If it was a success we wouldn’t be considering it.
Most concept cars look incredible and appear algreat until execution.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/thread-of-the-day-what-if-the-pontiac-aztek-concept-had-gone-to-production-unchanged-192105/photos
https://www.thedrive.com/news/85-year-old-arrested-for-allegedly-street-racing-his-nissan-z
That should not be an arrest-able offense.
OT – Gerald Shreiber, Who Turned the Soft Pretzel Into a Ubiquitous Stadium Snack, Dies at 84
https://www.wsj.com/business/gerald-shreiber-who-turned-the-soft-pretzel-into-a-ubiquitous-stadium-snack-dies-at-84-4b0639d0?st=cRcUuD&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
Yeah, outrageous!
*checks article*
110 in a 45. Yeah…
I see a seatbelt. Not the most Glibertarian car.
Also, does it come with orphans to valet and wash it?
For a very reasonable fee, they can provide a selection from Jesse’s Orphanarium.
I was hoping the mutant rats mentioned in the last post’s comments would be far enough along to replace orphans. Seems there is still a lot of evolution to go.
News you can use
Republicans tend to use more positive phrases. About 3 in 10 Republicans characterize the country as “great, prosperous or powerful,” compared with about 1 in 10 Democrats.
Democrats are more inclined than Republicans to describe the country using negative words, such as “struggling” or “declining” and “corruption” or “unfairness.”
Those poor foolish deluded Republicans, playing their banjos and jew’s harps as their once mighty ship of state sinks beneath them.
After decades of relentless anti-American propaganda from every institution it’s amazing there is a single Democrat left who has anything positive to say.
Industrial strength propaganda works, film at 11.
You do not feed your soldiers bacterial sludge, not even yoghurt.
Algae; it’s what’s for dinner.
So THAT’S what the reflecting pool is all about!
A source of food in the field when the National Guard shows up to try to slow the murder rate.
Trump Orders Food Supplies for Troops in DC as Civil War Looms
/Salon, probably
I’m thinking the BBC might be looking for a new correspondent in Venezuela. They just did a story about the earthquake and she said that one reason for the widespread damage was that a lot of the buildings had been constructed after Hugo Chavez had come to power. B/c Chavez had nationalized the cement industry there had been a shortage of cement and so builders had cut corners to make up for the lack of cement.
The anchor immediately tried to get her back on track but then reminding her that it was just months since the US had ousted Maduro and so the country was in a state of chaos and would this make it harder to mount an effective response? She replied, “I wouldn’t say chaos, more uncertainty.”
Stay on target…
You say uncertainty,
I say chaos
Let’s call the whole thing off!
Can’t, there’s still a few million people there.
Bad Orange Man to present a trophy:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2026/06/23/fifa-president-revealed-who-his-special-guest-will-be-for-the-final-the-libs-are-gonna-riot-n2678155
This wasn’t the surprise that Townhall is making it out to be. It was known as we plebs in NJ who commute to NYC needed alternative commuting plans and was stated exactly that this was the reason why.
Also not surprising as heads of state are often present at major FIFA final matches.
Que?
“That framing is one that I’ve been very proud to be able to say I don’t respond to, one in which I have been very intentional to say I won’t be reactive,” Avila Chevalier, who was backed by New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists of America, said when asked how she would respond to Republican ads framing her as a communist during an appearance on MS NOW’s “The 11th Hour.”
*bangs pidgin-english-to-space-alien translator on desk*
She once tweeted that she wants to “seize the means of production”. I don’t care what she is pretending today, she is a communist. They all are but you rarely catch them being honest about it.
Oh frabjous day.
I keep my 6-month emergency fund in a series of CDs which mature over the course of a year. One of them matured yesterday, and as is my wont, I let it roll over but put a few more bucks into it. Except that instead of putting $95 into it, I put $9500 into it (thankfully, I had the money in my checking account to do that and won’t come up against a lack of funds to pay for anything). Now, I can redeem the certificate inside a 10-day grace period with no penalty, so that’s what I plan to do, and open a replacement CD. But: by putting $9500 into the CD, it’s over $10K which is probably going to trigger that damn reporting requirement, and who knows if the transaction will even go through done electronically.
I tried calling, but they only have a fucking computer chat system so I have no idea how to phrase my problem in a few words to get a prompt answer.
That reporting applies to cash. In this case it was an asset change.
Physical cash.
My obligatory annual training sez Sensei is correct – the onerous reporting requirements are for green foldy money (and/or shiny clinking money) going in or out (and possibly instruments like traveler’s checks, if anyone uses those anymore?)
Used to be referred to as “near cash”.
Those of us of a certain age will remember the ridiculous commercials.
Try:
Incorrect purchase amount
Wrong Amount
Purchase error
Purchase mistake
Or just keep holding on the line – sadly sometime for a long while. Keep asking it dumb questions, but don’t remain silent. Usually they will finally connect you to a person.
Thing about the reporting requirement – it’s the banks who have to do it.
I swapped more in and out of CD and didn’t have to fill anything out – but I know they filed behind the scenes, spying commie bastards.
For the most part, it’s just reporting and puts you on yet another list with no real impact.
I just wish the tellers would come out and say “I need to fill out this form, what do you plan to use it for and where did it come from?” rather than dancing around it pussyfoot style like we’re pals chatting about weekend plans.
I read somewhere that tellers are getting “nosy” about big cash withdrawals as a way to uncover possible scams and frauds against seniors. I don’t know how someone would fall for the old “you’ll be arrested for missing jury duty unless you deliver $3,000 in cash to my courier in front of the Target store by 2pm.”
Woman tells 7 On Your Side about gold bar scam that swindled her out of her $700K life savings
Elder abuse is real and very sad. With women it’s empathy. For men it’s getting to make a small mistake and dig themselves into a hole trying to fix the mistake with scammer.
I’ve heard the horror stories from my co-workers in compliance/fraud. It’s sad to hear what old and/or lonely people will fall for. And of course the victims get pissed at my co-workers for telling them it’s fraud and often refusing to carry out the requested transaction.
Ouch. Don’t click on anything in an email, folks.
I find that pressing “0” sometimes gets a human even if they don’t tell you it will.
Some critics of her campaign have accused the candidate of being an advocate for communism, which is an economic model that replaces private ownership with public ownership and often focuses on creating a classless society, as defined by Britannica.
Socialism focuses on narrowing the gap between the rich and poor to create a fairer class system and keeps some level of private ownership mixed with publicly owned enterprises, according to National Geographic.
What about the ditches? Who owns the ditches?
lol She is on record espousing communist ideals. Does that count, you morons?
Thanks for job advice this morning. FedEx is tomorrow, and my biggest concern is the path to promotion would have to be damn solid. Only 30hrs but would lose Medicaid, so a big expense. And really shitty hours. Big toe in the door, I s’pose.
As always, we’ll see. Big plus of Sirius radio, MLB games on lunch. Free 3mo is ending next week. Will have to make a decision. Bad news, Pittsburgh’s up 3-1 on Seattle. It’s better for me if they lose.
I really don’t have much casual business wear for tomorrow afternoon. Enough, I s’pose.
I gave my last set of business wear to Derpy. Something tells me even if I did send you work clothes, they might me a tad big.
Try:
Incorrect purchase amount
Wrong Amount
Purchase error
Purchase mistake
Fat-finger
At a prior job my trading desk used to hate to have anything to do with Berkshire Hathaway for exactly the reason. If you added a decimal it could be a bear to unwind any of the excess position or to find shares if you came up short.
Right now BRK.A is trading at $732,873.70 you don’t want to buy 100 shares if you meant to only buy 10.
We know it ain’t the ’58 Packard with the Fourteens
On cars, I’ll ignore stupid fed incentives and more, but Tesla’s a really good thought. His changes in factory production, perhaps especially.
I need my Jeremy Clarkson hat on for car thought.
I left out Tesla and others because they took government money in one way or another.
Also Tesla is wildly successful.
I’m enjoying (sarc) the affiliate headlines for Amazon’s Prime Day and the random number of buys that website are putting in their headlines. Last one I saw was 23. But socialists (who want you do buy unnecessary stuff) at NBC have taken that and said, “hold my beer”.
NBC News
We found 309+ Prime Day deals worth buying after reviewing thousands of offers
24 minutes ago
By Zoe Malin
The communists at the NYT were slightly more restrained.
The New York Times
The 80+ Best Prime Day Deals We’ve Found (And Counting)
14 minutes ago
Opinion
By Nathan Burrow
Vox with another even handed headline. Paywall.
The Supreme Court lets Trump deport people back to war zones
You can guess number of justices yay and nay.
Do you at least give em a gun?
It’s America – we put guns in all the kid’s hamburger meals.
Give them a Hilux, the most libertarian truck.
I should have pulled the trigger on that iPad Air earlier today. Amazon has already upped the prices.
🙁
You’ll always have AI nudes with six fingered women!
Why do you need an ipad?
BREAKING: The Charlotte Hornets are trading star guard LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid, a 2033 unprotected first-round pick, three first-round pick swaps (2028, 2029, 2030) and three second-round picks (2029, 2032, 2033), sources tell ESPN.
There’s open and there’s open.
Iran Attacks Cargo Ship, Testing Trump’s Deal to Reopen Strait
Alfred Hitchcock’s Vandamm House Never Existed, Until They Built Their Own
Two architecture lovers created a real-life version of the home in Utah. It is now on the market for $45 million.
Would also work as Bond villain lair in a pinch. Not a bad purchase if you win the mega millions.
OK, that’s pretty fucking cool.