I will address the single biggest issue dividing libertarians in general, but especially on this board. Who do I endorse to help enslave me this November?
The three main contenders considered are Jo Jorgensen (L), Donald Trump (R), and SMOD (G). Because the risks and benefits of SMOD are self-explanatory and if you were planning on voting Biden (D), well, it is already too late for you I will focus on the first two alternatives. Let us assume you have resolved to vote, as that is its own ethical question which deserves a separate discussion. It is at this point that I will admit to having a bit of privilege in that my state will undoubtedly vote for Biden, so I have no concerns about who to vote for, my vote doesn’t matter beyond a signal of disgust at the other choices and approval of who I vote for. [1]
I will endeavor to make the case that voting for Jo Jorgensen is the more principled libertarian vote relative to voting for Donald Trump. Let us first examine the candidates’ history.
Trump is an aged, philandering, uncouth billionaire, so basically every libertarian’s wet dream while Jorgensen is a lecturer on psychology at Clemson, not exactly enhancing her libertarian cred, I will admit. What have they spent the last few decades doing politically?
Jorgensen is straightforward, libertarian candidate in a house race, on to vice presidential ticket in 1996 (when she would have been just 39, and won the spot with 90% of the convention votes), and then onto the 2020 Ticket where she edged out Jacob Hornberger and Vermin Supreme. As a libertarian I will let you decide whether the fact she has never successfully run for any office is (dis)qualifying. I will say she wasn’t my first choice, but the options generally weren’t great and I thought the vice-presidential field was honestly better in terms of speaking ability (Sharpe 2024!).
Trump is quite complicated in my opinion, in no small part because he is self-contradictory, but also has wielded power and thus been made to trade off various principles (if they exist) in light of political realities. Trump ran in 2016 as the ‘America first’ politician which included something very enticing for most libertarians: a non-interventionist foreign policy and something very mixed: an anti-immigration stance. As a republican he also ran against ‘Obamacare’ and for tax reductions. I would say the last two were delivered in some form, while the non-interventionism and anti-immigration policy amounted to more of a status-quo position in practice.
We’re still in NATO, the UN and have bases in 2/3rds of the countries in the world. We’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan, and who knows when we’ll really leave. We did a bit of bombing in Syria, and even had ‘boots on the ground’ there for some time. We’ve been lucky it didn’t turn into an even greater shit show since then, though not for lack of trying.
In regards to immigration we are still in processing about 1 million immigrants a year, there has been a very slight decline (around 2%)[2], but nothing like what either side predicted/hoped/feared. I would say this mild downturn in immigration is likely because of Trump, though I have no way to prove it, and it is well within the normal fluctuations that can happen for any reason.
On gun control, Trump has again, been status quo at best. Bump stock ban, but at least nothing worse, right? How about spending? Total disaster, Trump has not delivered a smaller government, but ramped up spending and deficits to never before seen heights (see why deficit spending matters).
On property rights, Trump has helped in terms of reducing regulations, most notable may be his attempt to redefine the navigable waters of the US to something a bit saner. Of course Trump has also come out in support of eminent domain and made use of it on both sides of the transaction (benefited personally and politically). This is a mixed bag, as most things Trump are.
On police reform my feeling is that Trump is all over the place, he initially made concrete moves to help reduce the prison population (First step act) and has made a few high-profile commutations or pardons. But, with the emergence of Black Lives Matter protests, and in particular, related violence, Trump has stood somewhat against that movement, and in particular against the violence. Whether he is suppressing the protests by nabbing innocent protestors or is acting to protect the lives, property and rights of Americans will depend almost entirely on what news articles you deem truthful.
So, with that very brief overview of Trump’s stances complete, let us see where Jorgensen stands.
Jorgensen has proposed a 50% cut in the size of the government, legalization of all drugs, bringing all the troops home, and has come out strongly in support of expanded gun rights (not just status quo). But wait, there is more. Perhaps most controversial is the candidate’s support for the Black Lives Matter movement. It should be hard for any libertarian to disagree with the stated aims of reducing uncalled for police violence. Where most will diverge is whether bringing race into things is first of all, relevant and secondly helpful or hurtful to obtaining meaningful results. This could be a whole ‘nother article, which I do plan to write one day. My position is that whichever way you feel about the BLM movement (and no, she doesn’t approve of political violence, or refused to differentiate it from protesting as some have claimed) [3] is that this level of disagreement is much smaller than the other high profile issues. My need for a 50% smaller government, true constitutional gun rights being enforced, bringing the troops home and the legalization of drugs exceeds niggling over the details of police violence. Yes, I’d prefer she had a different view here, yes I am a bit of a yokeltarian, but that doesn’t make her worse than Trump just because of one essentially cultural issue.
Of course, we can only see what Jorgensen says about issues and her policies because she has never been truly put in a position to enact those policies and the obvious disadvantages that puts Trump at by comparison.
While I may agree with much of what Trump is doing, especially when put into contrast with the Democrat alternatives, as the One True Libertarian, I can say I agree with Jorgensen much more than Trump, and as such plan to vote for her this November. I can understand a vote for Trump, but I don’t see any merit to the claim that he is more libertarian than the LP candidate is. At best there is a single portion of one issue where Trump may or may not be more libertarian than Jorgensen and a raft of others where Jorgensen is miles away better than Trump on.
[1] I think there may be a good argument that we should vote pragmatically, particularly in swing states, but I have heard some say they wouldn’t vote for Jo Jorgensen for various reasons, which I think are misconstrued, or not based on strictly libertarian reasoning.
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
[3] “I think we should support the protesters, but, at the same time, get rid of the opportunistic people hijacking the movement.” Jorgensen points to the people who have used the protests to loot and commit violence: “They are going around basically inserting themselves into peaceful protest. And I’ve seen many clips of the protesters saying, ‘Stop it. Go away. You’re not helping us. We don’t want you here.’”
https://reason.com/2020/08/07/jo-jorgensen-on-black-lives-matter-i-think-we-should-support-the-protesters/
no objections
I’m not sure what the President has to do with policing. If we’re talking about federal enforcement, I’m sure he’s reading your emails, the same as any other President: as much as you can get away with.
My biggest objection to Queensrÿche’s Empire.
*clutches pearls*
*faints*
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NSTct2FFamw
That spoken interlude makes no sense. The whole song is about the breadth and reasons for the drug trade. Geoff Tate then regales us with statistics on police spending. Smdh.
Is that Geoff?
Seriously, though–the song didn’t age well, even though it was right at the end of a spike in crime.
I still tend to turn it off when it plays on XM.
I think I am too sober to comment.
I am unimpressed with BLM. If I wanted to shut down police reform, that’s the exact group I’d create. Nothing about QI or police unions? Lots of Marxist talking points in the only demands lists I’ve seen? No thanks.
Full disclosure: I am holding my nose and voting for Trump. I don’t like but he hasn’t been as bad as I thought. He has done a few things, like appoint Gorsuch, that I like. Clinton won NH by margin of fraud, and Biden must lose.
BLM is Antifa in Blackface. Though to be fair, they are less arsony. But at the end of the day they are “commie grifters ‘in favor of good things and against bad things.'” How can you be against good things? How can you be against bad things? By opposing CGIFOGTAABT you are obviously a bad person and should be ignored and shunned.
CGIFOGTAABT
???
“BLM is Antifa in Blackface”
Not even, it’s mostly white people.
I’d say that stating “X in blackface” is pointing out that “X” is a white person pretending to be black. So “BLM is Antifa in Blackface” seems to make sense.
Ok, disregard my comment below.
Yeah, except for all the white BLM rioters- a surprisingly large number of whom are college age women.
I think there is a big difference between the organization BLM and the movement more generally. At the priest I went to back in June people did have signs protesting qualified immunity. I was impressed.
Only because the Marxists who started the organization managed to hoodwink a bunch of well-meaning norms into forming what we call the movement.
I’ve said it before, calling it “Black Lives Matter” was fucking genius. The most amazingly successful marketing campaign in my lifetime.
Almost all of the demands I’ve seen came from local chapters. The only thing I’ve seen from the national org was Marxist drivel from an organizer.
The local orgs demands were Marxist drivel plus one sane proposal: End the Drug War.
All of this Marxist crap makes me deeply suspicious.
I honestly don’t know how to distinguish the movement from the organization. What does the movement stand for, exactly? Who do I ask?
A movement is more than an impulse. “Cops shouldn’t shoot so many blacks people” is an impulse, a slogan, not a movement. While a movement maybe could arise from purely spontaneous coordination, like a school of fish, I don’t think people work that way. A movement has some organization. If not the BLM organization, then who?
Soros? I think it’s usually Soros.
Snark aside, I agree. The “movement” is inextricably linked with the organization. If you want to try to thread that rhetorical needle and support one without the other, good luck. For my two cents, the bare minimum I expect from a libertarian candidate is full throated unqualified condemnation of communism and any communist front groups.
For my two cents, the bare minimum I expect from a libertarian candidate is full throated unqualified condemnation of communism and any communist front groups.
#metoo
Ditt-to-the-f’n-O
Voluntary small scale communism is totally fine.
An LP candidate who opposed kibbutzim is libertarian.
isnt
I think it is, at least somewhat, organic.
Naturally there are many conflicting priorities and even beliefs within any group of people. I don’t think it’s fair to ascribe a single set of beliefs to all participants as each person sees it their own way. I think you end up with a pretty broad consensus among protesters that America is racist, cops unlawfully kill blacks at a high rate and are not punished for it.
Typing it out, I disagree with a lot of that except that cops get away with murder too often.
While a movement maybe could arise from purely spontaneous coordination, like a school of fish, I don’t think people work that way.
I think it’s a mite more nuanced than that: many movements emerge spontaneously, but nearly all movements develop into or are consumed by organizations. The time between the spontaneity and the organization is often short, however. People naturally organize, because organizations are more powerful than not.
Life cycle of radical ideas
LOL
I was part of a small grass roots group in our little town a decade ago that fought an absurd and deceptive effort by developers to bulldoze our quaint and very small main street, the only place for miles there is a grocery store, pharmacy and hardware store, and replace it with apartment towers, evicting the mom-and-pop businesses, under the ludicrous claim it would revitalize the place. On an unrelated occasion around that time I had a personal coffee with the mayor, who didn’t realize I had been part of that group. She straight-faced told me that our group was “astroturf” “funded by the Koch brothers”. Hey Kochs, I’m still waiting for my check!
I’ve voted for the Libertarian presidential candidate the last three elections, but my vote for Trump will have far, far more to do with punishing the Democrats than supporting the GOP. The idea of adding another Gorsuch or two to SCOTUS within the next four years is nice, too. A 7-2 conservative majority on the court will be great until the Dems regain power and add ten seats or so to SCOTUS.
There are good and bad conservative justices. Definitely a few, sometimes large, blind spots there when it comes to state power.
I wish we were given the option to vote positive for one candidate or negative for another candidate. (I would also like to see any candidate ending up with a sum total of negative votes barred from running for any office) That way it would be clearer which candidate had the support of the people rather than was merely the lesser of two weevils.
As long as it’s just one vote, either to add a vote to one candidate, or subtract from another, I think that could potentially work out quite well.
Hoping everyone gets negative votes and we end up with no one?
Sadly some write-in would end up sweeping the election… maybe we could get zombie Almanian to be president.
I’d actually kind of like us to try a random write-in as the actual president. It would at least make people reconsider their love for expanding the power of the executive branch.
I think this would highly influence the parties to run candidates which the people actually want to see in office rather than running some semi-lucid old guy just because he isn’t the other guy (and will probably be replaced with the younger, cooler WOC who – even in this situation – they can’t expect to win on her own).
It’s obvious to me that a huge reason why the DNC had a clown-car full of kooky candidates to pick from was because they were weighing the chances of their pick in a race against Trump, and not in an objective ideal of who was best.
Agreed. If we were really going with a negative or positive voting system, I wouldn’t have been surprised if Webb had been the democrat candidate during the 2016 election.
My proposal: Successive rounds of Russian Roulette until only one person is alive.
Requires at least two candidates. If there are one or no candidates, the office goes empty and taxpayers get a refund for the officeholder’s salary.
I prefer Belgian roulette – using Hi-powers! One round loaded in a 13 round magazine means a one in 13 chance! Better odds!
Hmm… nice!
I’d vote for that. So what would happen when every candidate got negative total votes?
I expect this would encourage third, fourth, and fifth parties to be engaged.
Imagine if this was how it worked in this election. I could easily see both Trump and Biden getting negative scores in many states so the electoral college points would all go to any 3rd/4th/5th candidate who had positive votes in any given state.
The easier solution (and my personal preference) would just be that every state would add “none of the above” as an option. If that option wins, everyone running for the position is barred from seeking office for a period of time, and either a new election with new candidates is held or the office is left vacant.
Considering how much the libertarian candidates are either ignored, or, actively shunned by much of the population, I don’t think this is gonna work out very well. All you’ll ever get, from that point on, are pols who promise more freebies at someone else’s expense.
Yes–we have that now. But, we also have candidates that try to push back. Under the system you’re describing, I believe they will be gone in a generation, as any deregulation/decrease platform would be ‘voted’ out of existence.
I guess I didn’t explain my system clearly enough.
What I am proposing is that everybody only gets one vote. They can choose to vote positive for their given candidate, or negative against what they perceive to be the worst possible candidate. They don’t vote positive or negative for each candidate. They no longer have to hold their nose to vote for candidate X as a way to vote against candidate Y – they can vote directly against candidate Y without having to give their vote to any other candidate.
Few people would choose to vote against a third party candidate with little chance of being elected. The most likely result would be people voting for and against the major party candidates with the minor party candidates mostly getting a few positive votes.
Ah; OK. Got it now.
“Perhaps most controversial is the candidate’s support for the Black Lives Matter movement. It should be hard for any libertarian to disagree with the stated aims of reducing uncalled for police violence.”
Except communism will definitely increase police violence.
All violence will increase. Full stop.
Black lives matter is explicitly violent in and of themselves. The marxist drivel they espouse at ALL of their riots is just in furtherance of their stated goal of destroying America and replacing it with something more akin to Venezuela. They are an unmitigated evil. They have little to nothing to do with police reform. They have stated point blank that they seek abolition of all law enforcement, prisons and all western culture. I’m not just making it up, it’s on their signs and graffiti. There’s no sentiment regarding how to prevent police abuse anywhere to be found. You know it’s bullshit by it’s name. It’s like naming a movement ” Puppies are cute.” If nobody, literally NOBODY, is arguing that puppies are not cute. There are zero voices yelling that black lives don’t matter. Nobody is calling for fascism, except antifa. BLM is taking actions that will harm and yes, kill black people. Antifa is actively seeking to institute fascism. If your very name is bullshit, it stands to reason that everything you stand for is too. This is the case with these people. They are hijacking real cases of abuse and then abusing others in an even worse manner. There is nothing to say about them which is redeeming in any way. They need to be stamped out, period. Oh, and their opposition is not white supremacists. It’s just normal people who are appalled at their deeds.
⬆ good post.
Remember the “Black lives matter, or all lives matter?” gotcha crap in 2016? It was even one of the Republican primary debate questions.
Also, BLM originally had nothing to do with police. It started after the Trayvon Martin hoax.
My only critique of an excellent post is this: “They are hijacking real cases of abuse…”, because they’re not. The cases they have taken up as causes are almost universally the cases of criminals. There are the exceptions of Eric Garner (who, though innocent of committing any crime at the time he was killed, was still a known criminal to the police), and possibly Breonna Taylor. We all know about, and this one thing TOS is good at reporting, true cases of innocent lives taken by the police, like Tamir Rice. The fact that BLM chooses thugs to lionize is fairly informative of what their goals, and who their targeted recruits, are.
I specifically used the term BLM movement, so as to be more inclusive than just the group by the same name which is indeed horrible.
I know the ‘ mostly peaceful’ thing is a great meme, one which I sympathize with, but there does need to be a distinction made between the rioting and the protesting.
It was a great article and it provoked thought in me. I have always reflexively voted Libertarian across the board, since I was in my twenties. Gayjay/Weld cured me of it, and now, supporting BLM (however tepidly) is a deal breaker. Otherwise, I’d stick with my track record. It doesn’t matter anyway, because I live in Cali.
Thanks Blackjack.
I initially had the same reaction as you (duck the lp for their blm support) but it realistically isn’t the biggest issue and for me doesn’t outweigh everything else I like Trump less on.
Excellent analysis.
My response.
I may still skip voting.
Here in Idaho, there’s no mystery how the people will vote. I’m going to write in ‘fuck off slaver’ for every race I can’t vote third party, and even a few that I can.
Idaho is now (after a really fantastic day spent in Boise at the Botanical Gardens and the Military History Museum) in the running with S Dakota (Go Noem), Montana and Wyoming for “Place where I will live when I no longer have to consider making a living”
All those places a very cold though.
You make a good case for Jo, I’ll give you that.
I still think she’s being hoodwinked on BLM – we have argued endlessly over this so I see no need to hash it out again – but at the end of the day you’re right that she has much better positions than Donald on most issues.
Pretty even tone on the article. The difference here being we watched DJT for 4 years. He did a good job compared to any other President in our lifetimes. Don’t let the China virus erase that.
Well, he did kill 200,000 Americans. It’s going to be hard to overcome that.
You mean he created 200k new job openings!
Nope. The dead were all retired.
He’s helped save Social Security.
^ winner
It is going to be hard to overcome covid 19 being the death of the Trump re-election effort.
“He did a good job compared to any other President in our lifetimes.”
Agreed 100%
It is just such a low bar to step over.
^ You win second place
Like every goddamn LP candidate. How about throwing a grenade into the process to get people to actually look at you? Then, when you have their attention, say something meaningful.
If last night proved anything to “middle America”, it’s that maybe it might be worth looking at one or more of the other options out there besides the two perennially-approved options.
Yeah, and then one of the candidates puts a fucking boot on their head or strips naked.
Liberty is a beautiful, but difficult sell.
Point of order: wasn’t he wearing a g-string so therefore not naked?
If third parties got no attention last time, remember Hillary vs Donald?, they ain’t doing nothing this time. I’m pretty sure the people who want the burn/loot/murder people stopped are going to vote good and hard for the only candidate who’s trying to stop them.
Yeah, it’s like a reverse WWII, where we join forces with the Nazis to stop Stalin. Except, the republicans aren’t fascists, and this really may be The Most Important Election Ever™, since the fifth column is openly stating that they plan to eliminate the filibuster in order to add D.C. and Guam as states- adding 4 permanent Democratic Senators,
and packing the Supreme Court.
It is nothing less than a powergrab by people who wish to install a despotism.
Johnson got the most votes since Perot, so someone was paying attention.
Thank you Rhy.
There is nothing wrong with supporting supporters of police misconduct and the killing of unarmed citizens for no just reason. There is something wrong with supporting BLM. That horse has left the barn. The two ideas may have never even shared the same barn.
I can’t argue with anyone who wants to vote for Jo over Trump. I think that’s a principled stance.
I also can’t argue with someone, even a libertarian, who believes that the Dems constitute such a “clear and present danger” to the Republic that he/she/xir will vote for the Big Cheeto, given the realities of the election, likelihood of voter fraud, etc. Some might argue whether this is principled or not, but I believe that principle + realpolitik is still a principle.
I also wouldn’t argue with someone who says, “I refuse to participate in this fucking travesty. Everyone of you disgusts me and I won’t pull the lever for anyone.” Another principled stance, IMO.
I can’t fathom someone voting Team D for any kind of principle at all, other than “I want my Top Men to exercise power over others.” That is the fundament of the Democratic party now. If there is a ‘principle’ to be found, it is simply will-to-power. The entire D platform is about ramming the federal government (moreso than individual states) right down the country’s fucking throat, like it or not. One mask to rule them all. I’m appalled by what the party of my grandfather and father has become.
No question that team blue has become virtually the exact opposite of what a libertarian should support: racist, anti free speech, anti property rights, anti gun rights etc.
Pretty much where I am on all points. My half-formed plan is to show up at my polling place on Election Day and vote sight-unseen against every Democrat that appears on my ballot. It won’t work but it might feel good.
Yeah, I think there are good arguments for a pragmatic vote as much as a principles-only vote.
There is a reason I list SMOD as a choice and not Biden.
I like that you did that.
SMOD tempts me, but I’m in NH. Clinton won by margin of fraud.
Saved me a lot of typing on my tablet, Ozy. What you said.
“One mask to rule them all” is genius! Imma steal it. Is it yours?
Yep. Straight outta my ass.
DJ is threatening ass-theft!!
No, wait…..
Democrats are insane authoritarians that cannot be allowed to have power. You can find me on the Trump Train with a burnt steak covered in ketchup and overpriced, mediocre wine**.
*Dons ‘MAGA’ hat*
**not that I cook steaks incorrectly, that is a Trump thing. And Trump wine is, well, wanting.
“Burnt steak covered in ketchup” had me reaching for the closest firearm, till I realized where you were heading. Proceed.
Nothing is a bigger issue in my eyes than the immoral and most likely unconstitutional lockdowns. Trump has pushed back a bit, but not enough. Any government that can force you to stay away from a dying relative is not a government that can be trusted in the future.
But you might spread their deadly breathed breath even if it is their last one. Don’t you science at all?
I’m not sure anyone has been sufficiently good enough on lock downs, but I stop remember trump calling for the liberation of some states.
He must have gotten some negative feedback on that because we haven’t heard much of that since, though a lot more things are open now, at least here in N.Y.
Kristi Noem is good on lockdowns she didn’t do any.
Ron Desantis saw the light and converted to “no lockdowns”. He is also good on lockdowns.
Mmm, Kristi Noem. Not sure how I could forget. Though, I was mostly thinking presidential candidates.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kristi Noem runs in 2024.
Dibs
Ron Desantis.
To add to this–if you happen to catch the newest SP episode (Pandemic Special), be prepared for a ‘stance’ that, to me, makes no sense. Stan asking Mr. Garri-Trump if he really isn’t going to do something about the Pandemic. Something along the lines of, “Are you really not going to do anything?!?”
Now, I don’t know if Matt and Trey have changed their political stance. And, I get that “Southpark Libertarian” is not a concept of their making. But, for guys who do typically tow that lion, the idea that the show’s voice of reason wants and expects the US Prez to “do something” about Wu Flu is, to me, a head-scratcher–at the very least.
Yes, yes–blind spots for everyone, they did portray the down side of lockdowns, etc., etc. Still, though; this seems a pretty bright line. What, exactly, do you expect any government “leader” to do about a viral, infectious disease? Isn’t your health YOUR responsibility?
I had a discussion today about the debate at work. I said Jo, had she been allowed there, would have either wiped the stage with those two morons or just walked off after rolling her eyes because it was such a shit show. A participant in said discussion said, well, she did not meet the criteria to debate because of her poll numbers. I slipped and yelled, “HER NAME IS NEVER MENTIONED IN THE POLLS!!!!!!!!!!”
My workplace is blessedly free of any political discussion. Of course, most of people I talk to every day are located in either Poland or Belarus. ?♂️
You must not have been in a convo when I disclosed where I work. It revolves around politics, mostly local, so it is discussed. Unfortunately I am incapable of letting anyone in ear shot know where I stand pretty much about anything. In the past life I have worked with many of them foreigners and I rarely met one who did not feel the need to tell me how fucked up the USA was. Be glad you don’t have to put up with that.
Nope – and it sounds horrible. I also don’t talk politics at work – I’ve made the mistake of doing it once or twice and learned my lesson.
It is horrible because of the actual work I have to do but not because we talk politics. Here, I am a political discussing amateur, in the real world I know more than 99% of the people I talk to. The number of people who actually care to learn about the assholes that run our lives is truly frightening to me. We are surrounded by people who don’t care. Maybe ignorance is bliss.
The work I do is technical, rather than political, but I work with a bunch of journalists and am thus subjected to endless commentary that tells me Ben Rhodes knew what he was talking about when he said today’s modern journalist literally knows nothing. And their average age IS 27. I spend a lot of time practicing keeping my mouth shut.
This did not used to be the case. As recently as the late ’80s/early ’90s, journalists as a group tended to be widely read, with a head hull of trivia.
I’m not quite sure when it changed, but holy shit it changed hard.
Poland or
BelarusByelorusByelorussiaWhite Ruthenia? So Trump v Biden?I can’t believe I’m actually saying this, but thank god for the Hatch Act. It’s kept all political discussions out of my office…
SMOD is obviously the only true candidate, and Jo seems alright. In any other time, I’d be happy to vote for her. I may still, and depending on the company I’m in, I will probably claim I voted for her. In Cali, my vote will not effect the EC at all.
However, I am so sick of “popular vote president!!” and bleating about DEMOCRACEEEE from leftists who don’t give af about actual democracy in the slightest, that I will toss my ballot at Trump in the hope that enough others do so too, so we might get more alignment between EC and total votes. It’s probably a vain hope, given Cali’s size, and yes, I know it’s a petty reason, but those whiners irritate me, so this is my answer.
Jo is the best vote.
Yet she still sucks. So fucking hard.
If you get to the top of the third largest party in our country but still can’t be coherent, you suck. Hard.
There are a bunch of assholes here who would make better candidates. Like you, athena.
This is pathetic. Let’s go a different direction:
Here’s a cover of a great Bowie song.
Enjoy.
The popular vote thing is incredibly dumb as 1)she still got less than 50% of votes cast. 2)among eligible voters ‘no one’ was the top choice
Oh, well after last night’s performance in the debates… my mind hasn’t changed at all. This is the worst election season I’ve ever followed, and I blame not a single person who votes Jo, write in, or doesn’t vote at all. I think anyone planning to vote Biden is probably a secret communist, and if not, simply hasn’t watched any of his appearances. I’ll be voting Trump, not because I want to, but because I’m that mad at the democrat party right now. In a choice between Cheeto or the Cheater, I’ll go orange.
anyone planning to vote Biden is probably a secret communist, and if not, simply hasn’t watched any of his appearances. I’ll be voting Trump
LG can’t be labeled pinko lemonade.
Pink lemonade.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qE-gdNIL8WI
“I’ll be voting Trump, not because I want to, but because I’m that mad at the democrat party right now.”
I get the feeling that the above describes a significant percentage of the people who will be voting for Trump this time – this is a different set of people from those who actually want to vote for him. And the reasons for being mad at the democrats this time are multi-faceted.
Like a princess-cut diamond, they are.
*looks at princess-cut wedding ring*
I will vote straight-ticket Republican this time.
One of the primary reasons is that this will deeply offend most of my friends.
I am pretty much ready to start burning bridges.
Haven’t already burned bridges?
Some libertarian you are…
You’re the Anti-John Cusack
I’m voting for Almanian.
Hell, yeah.
I miss that guy. RIP.
*pours out ballot box in memoriam*
*changes all the ballots to Democrat and resubmits them as late mail-in ballots*
That sucks. I didn’t know. I spent a few years pretty much away from TOS and here and anywhere else related.
Write in Brochettaward. Only if youre the first voter though.
You can’t vote for yourself – it’s gauche.
RIP Almanian.
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/09/oregons-us-attorney-wont-cancel-federal-deputization-of-local-state-officers.html
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Nice maneuver by the feds to extend their jurisdiction. I like it in this context, very much don’t like the precedent.
I don’t like the precedent either. However, if there has even been a proper context for it this is probably about as close as it gets.
OT: So I was looking at my company’s “wellness” program today and we get 50 points or whatever for watching a video from our new “diversity and inclusion” VP.
lol-snort
Sounds like a great way to make one’s mind unwell.
Is the video Blacks on Blondes 37?
That type of video would probably do more for actually advancing the cause of inclusion than whatever crap HR puts out.
Heh.
/I think we know the cause….
No mention of Semi-Bright Border Collie, the fix is in for the 3-party system!
Semi-bright border collie sounds like the only one in the pack stupid enough to run for office.
Don’t ever use the word stupid with me. Don’t ever use that word because you know what, there’s nothing stupid about you, Gus.
That’s where you’re wrong.
Wait a minute. Semibrightborder collie is smarter than me and I wouldn’t run for President.
Corgi for pres. “Tired of the cigarette smoke in back political rooms? Vote for the Pembroke with- SQUIRREL!!”
As the owner of a border collie I have to say electing one would be an error. They end to be a bit too hair trigger in their response to ‘threats’ and I think a nuclear war starting because a squirrel got to close to the house is a bad thing.
Meh. Pretty much SMOD v. 1.1.
Yeah, still looking for the down-side on that…
They end to be a bit too hair trigger in their response to ‘threats’ and I think a nuclear war starting because a squirrel got to close to the house is a bad thing.
Just replace the nuke button with a treat button. I thought that’s what they already did for Trump.
Although, when one thinks about it, declaring a war on the squirrels would probably do much to bring the country together, as having a common enemy is one of the most effective national unifiers if history is any guide. And would the world really suffer if the squirrels were eradicated? I’m thinking border collie may not actually be a bad idea.
I got this, CPRM
Look at you doing a solid.
I’m a big kid now!
Shit, I’m on a Dramarama roll now.
Enjoy Emerald City, bitches.
I did. Thanks.
Nice. Kind of embarrassed that I don’t remember this track even though I own it.
How about this?
One of my favorites!
Don’t own but vaguely remember. I love his voice.
I have a slightly different view and Lack mentioned it. It really doesn’t matter which one gets elected, the Deep State is impenetrable. Czar Nicolas is purported to have said, “I thought I ran this country only to find it is governed by 10,000 bureaucrats” or words to that affect.
The Seen and the Unseen, the debt is going to strangle this country. We have no idea what will happen or when it will happen but we have seen what the Toilet Paper scare has done, to more or less rational people. We can’t begin to know the ramifications of the collapse, nor can any politician or bureaucrat or general. We have witnessed North Korea, all the green paper in the world is not able to solve the problem. We are seeing Venezuela, a prosperous country go into a sharp decline country. They have lots of money but no wealth. Cuba? The list goes on.
No politician, not a demo/repub/lib will be able to solve the problem and reverse course. There is no escape. Even now we see cities ungovernable, people leaving the high taxed states but simply moving doesn’t solve the problem.
As Dillinger said, “That’s where the money is” as to his reason for robbing banks. Jerry Maquire said it simply, “Follow the money”. Believing the fed can control inflation is a dream. I can’t vote and won’t vote to watch the country disintegrate. I have no answers either.
Did I give you nightmares last night?
I would have hid under the bed but the claustrophobia was even more scary. Man, it’s dark under there and just touching a lost sock is terrifying. C’mon, Kinnath, you have to keep the Story of Sam going to a conclusion. We gotta know. We’re sort of like your friends. Short answer, nightmares.
I second keeping the story going.
Yes, please
Maybe there will be a very special episode for Christmas.
Christmas? Christmas? Consider my age. I couldn’t wait ’til Christmas as a kid, maybe not now either. Gimme a break (and all the others, too) How about a compromise, T’giving? OK, deal.
Well, I need to find another song to tell the rest of Sam’s story.
“You Got Another Think Coming” by Judas Priest
I agree about the debt and Deep State.
Look at Debbie Downer here.
/JK, depressingly accurate
https://twitter.com/SallyMayweather/status/1311118338261688326/photo/1
The people that take the debate seriously are the same people that thinks the stripper likes them.
That’s a winner.
*light bulb goes on*
Ah! That’s why I never have been interested in strip clubs…
I spent a year in various dressing rooms of high end strip clubs, all across the country. I can tell you, you don’t want to be a typical customer of one.
I’m waiting for your article.
Let’s be honest–you’re waiting for the pics.
I am waiting for the pics.
Jerry Maguire said “Show Me the Money”, “Follow the Money” was misattributed to Deep Throat in the movie All the President’s Men by the guy who wrote The Princess Bride and more importantly Marathon Man.
Well put 4×20. Likely we won’t win, but it doesn’t cost me much to try.
Wait 4×20 not 80? Hmmm, I may have been misstranslating the ‘honey harvest’ all this time.
four score
Yeah, but when you write fourscore as 4×20 it means something a bit different than 80
I always assumed both meanings were implied.
Goddamit.
You should have been my dad.
Nicely done. you’ve made me change my position.
Instead of firmly not voting for anyone you’ve moved me to – if were to vote I’d probably vote for Jo.
No snark intended – a nice, calm piece of reasoning In These Troubled Times.
Thanks Mikey. I hope you get a chance to vote.
Actually, I might. There’s a legalize weed article. It really sucks, but still.
If the cartels were writting legal weed laws they’s look just like they do.
There’s no way any cartel is gonna let the US legalize drugs. Certainly not all drugs. There’s far too much at stake for them if anybody–OK, any mainstream manufacturer can start pumping out the clean stuff legally.
I wouldn’t be surprised if, should we actually ever start to get to that point*, the cartels start funding prohibitionist candidates, just to keep their vig going.
*yeah, I know
Uncle Sugar is the biggest cartel of all. He’s fine if he gets his cut.
Cartel aside, it’s already “allowed”.
FFS, I can’t believe that that is even a sentence that makes sense…
Nice write up. Thanks.
Please, Mr. President, lay some stimulus on me!
Guitar shorty is a fascinating guy. He was married to, I think, Jimi Hendrix’s sister. He was also a mechanic and he gave up music for like a decade and just worked on cars. He used to play the local Blues festival. He met my kid once and asked how old he was. I told him and he said, ” damn! That boy is TALL!” I said, ” Vin, Guitar Shorty just said you’re tall!”
He also used to do flips on stage while playing.
Considering Putin and Trump are considered to be pretty much the same person to many I think I’ll just write him in. I like the way he handles the media along with his pro Snowden stance. Barring that it’ll be the Oompa Loompa, the only somewhat acceptable choice among the two that stand a chance in hell to win.
Well, according to the Democrats, Putin is omniscient and frighteningly competent. I mean, the guy got Trump elected with his spare change, just think what he could do as the actual president instead of getting slowed down by his middleman Puppet Drumpf!
Vote Confidence!
Vote Competence!
Vote Vlad 2020
Was Trump running on “anti-immigration” or “anti illegal immigration”? My impression is the latter – thus, the border wall.
It’s an important distinction.
There is some of both, imo.
Refugee visas were reduced, and I believe h1b’s are harder to come by. i think his harder line was against illegal immigration as you say.
I would say refugee standards were tightened and enforced, a little.
That may be true, but it is also more than just that, he is literally writing Executive orders setting the maximum number of refugees to be resettled every year lower and lower.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-determination-refugee-admissions-fiscal-year-2020/
With Libertarians is there a distinction?
Yet another post I want to get to someday.
When you want to make legal immigration harder and harder at some point that distinction is meaningless.
Well, we’ve already tried making entitlements easier and easier, and that became a completely unforseeable shit-show.
I think I tried to post this the other night – I am sure I was drunk because hey pills and weed stay in the system longer than a little booze.
Tim isn’t a libertarian. He is a maniac. But he is funny and doesn’t care and shares a mindset many people – not a majority or a cable news or twitter audience – but an audience that is large and exists. He also openly insults a…I guess a Hollywood/Twitter celeb who has the same mindset of most of you freak.
Additionally, large-nosed Italian ladies ARE beautiful!
And also voting is gay af
Nice link Bro
SHUT UP DORK
I have to surprise host 16 high-level corporate personnel in my office tomorrow. I mean give me a break. Pray for me. Thoughts and prayers.
I was also told to make sure to enforce social distancing. I mean…people.
Just say “I’m sure I can count on you to stick with our social distancing policy.”
Optional: Saying this while loading a magazine for the handgun sitting on your desk.
It is THEIR policy!!!!!!
But yeah I will just tell them to do whatever they want here are masks whatever.
C’mon!
I actually enjoyed listening to that. Reminds me of Rogan, though with less drug use-induced brain farts.
“Chelsea Peretti would have been burning people at the stake saying how virtuous she was and telling everyone how it was needed.”
He really gets the so-called progressives at least.
Yeah–pass. The whole “Bernie was trying to give everyone healthcare” bullshit…just,
pisspass on that.Her support for BLM is a dealbreaker. She calls for a 50% reduction in government? Marx called for it to be eliminated fully. She’s a halfassed communist? I don’t get it.
I’m enjoying “The Floor is Lava” on Netflix. Totally silly. The trophy is a …… Lava lamp.
Look up Holey Moley (it’s on Hulu/ABC). It’s extreme miniature golf, with Rob Riggle and Joe Tessitore doing play by play. Stephen Curry is the golf pro.
From the first season. They revamped almost every hole for the second season.
I’m sold. Still snickering at the “the top mini golfers”. Who knew?
They get some real pro golfers as well (usually female).
Of course, they named one of the holes for the second season Uranus (yes, there are times I’m childish).
Pffft….if only.
I’m either voting for Trump or staying home. The LP (well, Bill Weld) pissed me off too much to vote LP again anytime soon. I had always considered it the principled vote prior to last election. And my vote for Trump isn’t because I like him, it’s an FU to the D’s.
I’m under no delusion that my vote counts at all, no matter what state I may live in. It only matters to me and then only because I want to continue my streak of 1) not voting for a presidential winner since 1968 and 2) voting for the LP candidate since 1972. We all will need to hold our heads high when they line us up against the wall someday.
“1) not voting for a presidential winner since 1968 and 2) voting for the LP candidate since 1972.”
Not the hardest venn diagram to plot.
Still not voting, or even registered to do so.
Put “none of the above” on everything on the ballot, and I’d vote, good and hard.
My general practice is for any/every office, if there is a candidate I endorse, I vote for him/her, and if not, I write in “NONE OF THE ABOVE.” It takes a while to do on the voting machines we have here, but I feel it’s worth it.
“It takes a while to do on the voting machines we have here, but I feel it’s worth it.”
You need a stencil and a can of spray paint.
My reasons for voting Trump. Judges. Deregulation. Fighting back against Antifa, etc. No new wars. The Dems must be punished for all the crap they’ve been pulling.
He ain’t perfect, but I don’t expect perfection.
Normally I would vote Libertarian, but I want him to win both the popular vote and the electoral college just to take that issue off the table.
It’s great to say you want to shrink govt by 50% but just try getting even a 1% across the board reduction in spending past the 535 idiots in congress. The same goes for virtually any meaningful reform at this point.
Sadly, spending money is probably the one issue where congress could easily override a presidential veto…
Someone who vetoes every spending bill, thus requiring 2/3 overrides from both chambers in congress, is gonna make it harder for congress to spend. Not 50% reductions, but in the right direction.
In all honesty what Congress needs, and I think a House leadership team dedicated to the cause could accomplish, is to divide the budget and vote line by line. Allowing everything to be piled together into one big bill supports and encourages the sort of compromises that only push the budget higher. Making everyone have to vote on everything as a standalone item would help trim the fat. Probably never gonna happen, but the most likely and effective of things that’s never gonna happen, IMO.
I voted for Gary Johnson last time.
Then I watched watched Democrat’s spend years and millions of taxpayer dollars trying to get Trump for a clearly invented Russia scandal they themselves made up.
I watched them destroy a decent man’s reputation trying to pretend the world’s most absurd sex scandal was real.
I watched them orchestrate an impeachment that had no chance merely to influence the outcome of an election.
I watched them try to gaslight America into thinking white supremacy was real and Trump was a white supremacist while leftist whack jobs burned cities.
That’s the tip of the iceberg.
I hate that party now.
Nicely done article, many thanks!
I’ve done a bit of a switcheroo. First, I fucking hate the LP for what they’ve foisted on us. We watched the LP debate and thought Jo was a quintessential empty suit with a very inflated opinion of herself. A total non-entity, even if she is espousing political positions I largely agree with. Under no circumstances do I want to reward that party with my vote until they get their act together. Which is likely never. And I was a Johnson voter in the last election. Nice job, guys.
Arizona is a swing state. Originally, I figured I’d just write in McAfee or something (Almanian! is a great idea- what a super guy, but unfortunately not eligible for the ballot being dead and all), But then Bidenbot picked Harris to be de facto the next president. And that was the decider- she is the most purely evil person in current politics. So… I fucking hate Trump, acknowledge that he did two good things (Gorsuch and no new wars), acknowledge he did a bazillion horrible things, but compared to Harris… yeah, no. So I am holding my nose and every other orifice, voting for Trump, and am grateful for all of what he’s done to destroy the dignity and image of the presidency. If he can make it even worse, that’s a bonus.
two good things (Gorsuch and no new wars),
No love for the Abraham Accords, or just too soon to judge?
Plenty of love for it, but Trump’s actual role was peripheral- this was driven by the common interests of the signatories, and it wasn’t like concessions on both sides needed to be negotiated.
It’s no secret that I strongly believe that the US shouldn’t be diddling around in the Middle East, or for that matter, most other places where a direct national interest or actual defense is at stake.
I was thinking of you as I wrote it.
I like that I can write something here which people absolutely disagree with and they’ll still be so nice about it.
I’m not her biggest fan, but I can’t help but feel this is holding the LP to a way higher standard than other parties, which is kind of why I wrote the article. If any major party candidate had her platform we’d be all about it, her personal failings not withstanding.
She is the ultimate opportunist, I don’t know if she’s the most evil person, though I wouldn’t be surprised if she made a cameo appearance in one of Animal’s stories.
I know I’m way late to the party, but in case there are stragglers…
I can’t help but feel this is holding the LP to a way higher standard than other parties
Yes, I hold my protest vote to a higher standard than my defensive vote. The LP will never be anything but a protest vote and, frankly, they’re not good enough on the issues I care about to motivate me to get off the couch. They play way too much footsie with the postmodernist moral relativists, and they’re the embodiment of the “live and let live” libertarianism that I find laughably impotent.
Voting defensively for Trump (not sure if I will or not) is a much lower bar. He doesn’t have to be perfect or even all that good a president to prevent Biden/Harris from turning this country into a euro-Marxist hell hole.
That pretty much describes my thinking.
Jo is an anti racist, Fuck Jo, Fuck the LP,
they aren’t a political party, get over it,
Are you saying the LP should start acting like a political party? Not sure what that would look like.
Anyone who decided to take my gym away from me and are gleefully planning to do it again if given the chance, while permanently strapping a facemask to my face are getting voted against. And Trump, rampaging bufoonish asshole cretin that he is, doesn’t have any desire to do any of those things.
Theoretical politics is one thing, but my freedoms were not theoretically restricted this year. They were massively and grossly infringed. I’ll vote for whomever runs against them in any election I’m allowed to vote in. If that doesn’t count as “principled,” I’m not sure what does.
See footnote [1], I can see it either way… either voting pragmatically or voting for the most liberty-supporting candidates.
Ozy put it nicely above ‘principle + realpolitik is still a principle.’
It’s not really pragmatism (even though I live in a swing state, my vote has zero chance of mattering), it’s anger. I’ve been wronged. Unfortunately my vote is all I have to express it.
Bam! That is the only reason to vote for Trump and it’s still a damn good one.
Jorgensen is only a lecturer. Wow. Disqualified.
Haha, yeah. She is surprisingly… unimpressive.
Not that I think it is truly disqualifying, I more meant that she is employed by a public university.
Nice article. One bit of additive info. Trump reduced the cost of FFL licensing by 50 percent if your gross sales are under 100k and removed the ITAR registration requirement for domestic manufacturers of firearms like myself which is a 3k a year savings and a lot less headache to deal with every year. So for FFLs Trump has been a slight positive on the 2nd. I would say it is easier to become an 07 FFL or 02 SOT now which helps the firearm community.
Rand Paul, Massie, Amash all would be better than Jo (for different reasons). If the Mises Caucus can’t take over the LP, there is no stopping it’s slide into victim politics. I don’t think Glibs are that unique in their right leaning libertarianism and if people were given a choice for president that mostly aligned with that type of thinking, he/she could start a larger movement. I don’t think left leaning and right leaning libertarians can exist in the same party because it will end up having watered down principles that nobody wants. Gotta be bold if you want to break into the duopoly.
Perhaps, and it may become useless, which would be sad. One thing I learned while researching this is that the LP’s method of choosing delegates is kind of whack.
“Delegates to the convention were allocated based on the number of sustaining members of the national Libertarian Party per state, as well as the percentage of the vote cast by state in the 2016 presidential election for Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson.”
Those three (add John Stossel to the list) could probably win the LP nomination. Can you get one of them to seek it? Maybe if the LP got 10 million votes this year, it would be more attractive to one of them in 2024. But, of course, most libertarians are going to vote for Trump (as if someone after the election is going to sort out and weigh what % of the Republican vote came from libertarians.)
I voted for Trump already for all the reasons everyone has outlined here. I then bought a few more cases of ammo because we are totally fucked anyways. The military has gone full woke and I’m watching my compatriots get gaslit…HARD…and buying into all of it.
We.
Are.
Fucked.
I think it’s gonna take a little more time, but a coherent opposition to the fully developed, albeit ridiculous, new left ideology will emerge. The silver lining is how conservatism inc. is being brushed aside.
“a coherent opposition to the fully developed, albeit ridiculous, new left ideology will emerge”
Look at Mr. Optimist here!
Of course. What’s the alternative?
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“Nazi hieroglyphics”
/25th century digital woke-ologist
Clever.
I guess I’ve just given into my pessimism at this point. I don’t see it happening. We’ve been sitting around in our little struggle sessions in the military parroting the party line (and mercifully they have not asked me to break my silence yet) and I suspect purges will start soon enough. I see some people think we are at the beginning of a communist uprising. I think we are past the beginning and the momentum is unstoppable. The only semi-peaceful solution I see is some states seceding and forming a bloc of some kind but even that is too much for me to hope for.
I was so glad when I retired from the Reserves and put the uniform away. I would have stayed anyway – if they would let me serve past 60 – but they never acted on my request. Back during my first enlistment I would never have guessed how bizarre things would turn out.
If I’d stayed in, I’d be retired now. Some days I still think about going back in to do it and then I hear about how it is now.
I’m not sure if I would have gone back in had I been living in the US at the time that I did it. The benefits of the retired ID are much more valuable over here then in the US – and if your US location is nowhere near a base those benefits mean even less.
The sad thing is that Trump can at anytime EO the shit out of all the ‘Diversity and Inclusion’ (which are anything but). Supposedly he banned anything related to critical race theory? Well, I just got invited to one of 8 struggle sessions about how to be more inclusive. Quote from my double minority coworker: “I feel like they just hired me to check off some boxes”… way to go assholes.
Sow the chaos by saying, “maybe they did…..”
Then, just walk away.
?
And then?
Wait. It’s the long game.
Heh.
I am sooo glad to be on the other side of the world and working in a place where none of that would ever gain a toehold.
I’m basically being brought on to be the Japanese speaking white face to clients where my work experience & skills come to bear on a project. Some of the entities we will be dealing with could be American but wokeness would only be something they are dealing with internally and wouldn’t have anything to do with our part of the arrangement.
‘Sup, Stang?!
Just been working and trying to avoid news. Blood pressure is too high and I got a little one due any day now, so I’ve got to last a little while longer I guess.
Congrats! If you mentioned this earlier, I’ve never seen it, btw.
Keep on keepin’ on.
Well, congratulations on the new yet-to-arrive arrival! Oh what fun!
Thank you both. We are very excited!
Wonderful.
Congratulations!
Congrats.
Congrats.
Mustang! I thought you were over here like Straff and I. Do you have an address in the US to ship to?
I have a box at a UPS Store – but I can’t expect them to hold large packages for more than a couple months. So I usually only buy that kind of stuff right before a trip back to the US.
Still I am. I have the ammo, armor, and firearms sent to a trusted individual back in the US who’s dumping it into a lake for me to retrieve when I get back.
“Jill Biden is the modern version of a gay icon that Melania Trump wishes she could be”
https://www.queerty.com/jill-biden-modern-version-gay-icon-melania-trump-wishes-20200929
OFFS!!
Campy is as campy does.
I’m guessing our gay Glibs see things differently.
Fuck–I still say we need a national version of Toronto’s Rob Ford. Not his platform, per se, but that “Crayzee Sumbitch” type.
That’s why I’m still a fan of McAfee. I’d
piss on the sparkplugwrite him in, If I thought it’d do any good.For reference
Isn’t that Trump sans alcohol?
Does he drink? But, no–at least, not in my mind. I could easily be missing a lot, since I don’t pay that much attention to Presidents.
/YMMV
https://www.theblaze.com/news/woman-minors-trump-flag-vandalism
This kind of story happens with virtually no other party’s flunkies than the Dems. While that is not a reason to vote FOR Trumputin, it is enough, for me, to try to make sure Biden doesn’t win.
No, it’s not the candidates at fault here–but the party and philosophy that drives these people cannot be repudiated enough.
And, to repudiate the media that assists them: https://www.theblaze.com/news/ap-stylebook-rioting-unrest-looting
Carlin nailed it years ago…
https://youtu.be/7n2PW1TqxQk
Hell of a fucking game tonight for the Yankees-Indians.
Indians are staying alive right now with a guy who made it to first on a strikeout. Down by 1 run in the bottom of the ninth, runner on first, 2 outs.
And that’s the game. For once I can say at least we still have the Browns.
How did he get to first on a strikeout?
Dropped 3rd strike. If the catcher doesn’t catch a 3rd strike, you are allowed to run to first anyway. And they have to throw/tag you out.
My bane when we moved up from Little League to real dimensions. Some of those kids could chuck but they were wild. I remember a few guys whiffing on purpose because the back-stop was so far behind the plate.
Not that it means anything, but, there was a small discussion abut the BLM guy busted for embezzlement earlier this week. The guy that didn’t quite look “Black”.
It is being reported that he, in fact, does have albinism. So, everyone can rest their sphincters.
Or, don’t–I ain’t your proctologist.
Yet.
I will never forgive the Democrat party for making me WANT to vote for Trump.
It’s as mentioned earlier upthread, if you think in terms of “which party would gleefully strap a mask to my face and put the country back on”lockdown” at the earliest excuse, versus which party wants to rob you blind but not dictate what you wear or where you stand or whether your job is essential, the choice is clear.
It has to be Not the Dems, and a symbolic gesture L vote is not worth risking it in any state that isn’t true Blue.
So much this.
Yup. And, even Tejas isn’t immune from turning Not-Orange (that’s meta, btw ?). But, like I mentioned up-thread, it seems even the Southpark guys have their blind spot about government force because
pandemoniumpandemic.Plus….and, I don’t mean to belittle the need to actually f’n cut spending, but, the fact that DTJ has increased spending “to never before seen heights” could be true even if he signed off on an increase of $1. I know that’s not what happened, but, it does seem like he’s taken some steps that at least look like they work against the increase.
Of course, whatever he did against O-care doesn’t seem to matter, either, if we’re being honest. All the friggin’ hand-wringing over “He’ll roll back the pre-existing condition protekshunz!!!1!eleventy”, which are then countered by the party that said they wanted to do away with O-care…
SMOD is looking better every day.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qu0HTIuihy8&list=PL764355715E1CB6BC&index=13
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Just fired it up, and I like it already. Good morning, Sean!
Mornin
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehighvalley/doj-bangor-man-sold-more-than-1-million-in-worthless-stock-to-family-friends/article_34d3460a-0380-11eb-84d8-cb4caf939c43.html
Bangor? I don’t even know her.
That’s gonna make Thanksgiving awkward.
Mornin’.
☕
‘Sup?
Sounds like he was selling shares of his (fake?) company, pretending that the company owned shares of some other major Pharma company – supposedly his “investors” were told they were getting a discount over the actual value. That “discount” should have been a warning sign to anybody giving him large sums of money.
the company owned shares of some other major Pharma company
Theranos?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/business/faa-chief-boeing-737-test-flight/index.html
“In unusual move, FAA chief test flies 737 Max; says more fixes needed”
Morning, G;libs
GT, I sent you a question my email sometime last night.
Morning, UCS. Got your e. I’ll go back & reread pertinent section & respond this evening.
First of the month at work. Time for month-end – and quarter-end – reports. No rest for the weary or the wicked. (Why not both?)
I hear you.
“So, what time can’t we do it?”
“Well, you can’t do it during the end of the month processing,the start of the month processing, the end of the month processing or the midmonth processing. Oh, and don’t innterrupt the wuarter-month processing, which is different from the weekly processing.”
“What about the daily processing?”
“I was getting to that.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1311516085942968321
…the irony is that the #Covid response has turned out to be the ultimate example of the kind of statist/elitist power grab that Trump in 2016 successfully ran against…
And guess what? It’s steamrolled him and he can’t even understand why, much less explain what’s happened…
Dave Smith’s take on the debate:
https://youtu.be/6lz9eFgQdG0
He seemed to unironically enjoy it.
Jo never destroyed the USFL. As that disqualifies Trump from consideration, Jo gets my vote.
Unless SMOD is on the SC ballot.
Mornin’ Glibs. Looks like the barn-raising is a no-go. Poor planning leads to poor results. It’s my fault for not disavowing silly ideas in the first place. I should have spoken up sooner but here we are. Fucked up my back yesterday moving heavy objects around and dealt with spasms all shift long. Tomorrow is going to be so pleasant on so many levels.
Keep drinkin’ ?
After a few beers the pain did lessen but I still need to do shit today and cover my shift. Serious drinkin’ is for days that identify as “Pan-Weekendish”.
Enthusiasm.
Yeah. I’m not really sweating it.
I’m not so sure. There weren’t many signs for anyone in 2016, a few Hillary signs, a few bedraggled Bernie signs and one Trump sign. This year, one Trump sign and a moderate number of Biden signs. Not like when Obama was running, but definitely more than Hillary. I think it will be close.