355 Comments

  1. Brochettaward

    First of the morning to ye.

  2. PieInTheSky

    Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook sues over Trump firing her

    It was racist sexist and uncalled for

    • Ownbestenemy

      Its actually ironic because my lefty family members believe there is more unethical behavior in the Trump admin than the Biden admin.

      Probably the same amount even with these spinkles of instances that have come out.

      • SDF-7

        These folks doubtless also believe the Obama years were “scandal free”…. ye gods.

      • Nephilium

        Oh, I just get told it’s different when I bring up the mortgage fraud by the Democrats versus the obvious fraud of Trump’s case.

      • AlexinCT

        Trump is an evil orange man, and thus, anything he does is evil. Democrats do criminal shit because they care about the other people, and they need to do that criminal shit to be able to stay there andhelp!

      • Rat on a train

        Obama years were “scandal free”
        All they have is a tan suit!

      • Suthenboy

        Well Neph….they are correct. It is different.

      • The Other Kevin

        The irony is, Trump is doing everything out in the open, more than I’ve ever seen. He’s having 3 hour press conferences with his entire cabinet available.

      • Brochettaward

        Even his corruption has been out in the open!

        Those public cabinet meetings are weird and counter productive. It’s propaganda. Everything any administration does in the public is propaganda really, but the whole point of a cabinet meeting is for the cabinet to provide candid advice and information to the president so he can make decisions. In these public meetings they just perform fellatio on Trump and it reinforces the left’s narrative that Trump surrounds himself with incompetent yes men and sycophants in general (I mean, they may be right on that one).

    • SDF-7

      We need to clone the world’s tiniest Lindsey Stirling just to give a special concert for Mrs. Cook on the world’s tiniest violin.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Don’t know if is true, but saw a tweet yesterday that claimed that her lawsuit was full of all sorts of stuff – except for a denial that she committed mortgage fraud.

      • Ownbestenemy

        A simple clerical mistake. Punishment for those is only reserved for the plebes, not the elite

      • juris imprudent

        Actually the plebes aren’t worth the bother. This is a law that Beria would love.

  3. PieInTheSky

    AI Found to Increasingly Replace Young Entry-Level Workers, Stanford Research Shows

    It needs to displace the onlyfans girls so that they go back to in person services

    • Nephilium

      I’m pretty sure AI porn is already out there. Dozens of fingers, nipples, and wangs as far as the LLM could hallucinate.

      • SDF-7

        Instagram scraping for visuals… Internet Archive of rec.arts.erotica for storylines… yeah, AI smushing that together would probably produce something both visually titillating and with more plot than “stepsister caught in dryer” or “pizza delivery with no money”.

        And I’m frankly fine with that — though I’d 1000 percent prefer it be a locally hosted AI with no reporting back. Let folks indulge their fantasies privately and customize as needed. Like drugs — those overly addicted will likely have issues, others will tire of it and seek to partake more sporadically. Or include a human with similar interests. Society will adapt.

        On the entry-level jobs though… that’s going to cause one hell of a problem in 10 years or so as the existing senior level folks start retiring, especially in tech. I don’t think AGI is happening — and frankly, I think non-General AI isn’t the wunder pill the hype is currently on about… so I don’t really think it will “grow” into taking over at the expert level. Which means all these companies will have no one in the pipelines who has any clue what they’re doing.

        I suppose on the plus side… it might make it easier for me to stay employed if I still need to pay mortgages and all. We’ll see.

        ramble ramble ramble….

      • Nephilium

        SDF-7:

        I’ve noticed a near complete lack of professionalism and basic troubleshooting understanding from most of the most of the support staff I’ve worked with over the past decade. I’m pretty sure that ship has sailed.

      • UnCivilServant

        Mr Ilium – What I’ve seen with front line support is that those people who are able to think move on to better jobs leaving those who are merely not bad enough to be fired behind.

      • SDF-7

        I was thinking more entry-level programmer than support. I don’t know what the training pipeline is for support (other than not either quitting or turning to hard drugs, I suppose)… certainly entry level there where the humans obviously are following a f’ing flowchart and don’t care to listen to what you already attempted are, in fact, quite suited for automation.

        Of course — if we do achieve AGI and try to make it suffer through doing first level tech support — we shouldn’t blame it when the Terminators come. I suspect all entry level support dreams of wiping out humanity currently, and that’s with biological ties.

      • R.J.

        Agree with all of that. Not that I want to keep working.

      • Ted S.

        with more plot than “stepsister caught in dryer”

        Is this from your personal experience or something?

      • Ted S.

        I’m with Neph: My employer outsourced IT to something absolutely horrendous.

      • The Other Kevin

        If you’d like to learn more, tune in next Thursday at 11am.

    • EvilSheldon

      Have you seen the quality of young entry-level workers lately? You could replace most of them with a trained penguin and get better results…

      • R.J.

        They all start out like that. I would love to hammer kids but it is the job of crusty curmudgeons to train the next generation to be experienced, crusty curmudgeons. At least for the ones who listen.

      • EvilSheldon

        Man, I would like to agree with you. And maybe it is just me getting old and persnickety. But I seriously think the entry-level workers I’m dealing with now are way, way worse than the ones from twenty or even ten years ago.

  4. Brochettaward

    AI is mostly bullshit and people have been too quick to adopt it to the extent that they have. Change my mind.

    It’s also not “intelligence.” It’s just a fucking advanced algorithm that is so far away from being able to think that it’s comical.

    • Ownbestenemy

      True, but won’t stop companies from adopting it and having a fear of missing out.

      Its actually my current position to make sure the FAA doesnt think “AI” is magical

      • Brochettaward

        If it’s not ready to replace your experienced employees, you should probably give some thought to whether you really want to phase out your entry level ones. Just a thought from someone who isn’t paid 7-8 figures to run a tech company.

        It should be a supplemental tool right now to aid people. Not an outright replacement in most fields.

      • Nephilium

        I wish you luck. My company has decided to go all in on AILLMs. To the point of training a support LLM from our shoddy, contradictory, incomplete documentation and roll it out to the public even after internal testing showed it making up features, menu items, and entire screenshots of the application.

      • Brochettaward

        I mean, I have no say in it. There will be a reckoning for businesses that think AI is the be all end all in its current state.

        The market will sort this shit out. But yea, it’s going to be painful for the younger generation which have already been fucked over pretty hard.

      • juris imprudent

        Anyone remember the hoopla about expert systems? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Our first task is actually monumental and that is to clean up and standardize a supposed standard database that is horrible.

        I just want to make sure we dont let management believe LLMs can dictate our workloads (this is actually the path they were on and I will stop it)

      • SDF-7

        You mean agentic AI, JI?

        There’s a fresh coat of paint on that concept this year!

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        It is also a way for companies to cut out a lot of BS make-work jobs. We have been in a period of “just throw money at it” via hiring, and that seems to be going away.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      True, Sir

    • Pope Jimbo

      It isn’t just that AI might not be as smart as people think. It is also losing money. A lot of money.

      Would all these AI users be as high on its use if they had to pay the true costs of their queries? I’m thinking that if you started charging people what it takes to run all those data centers, the demand for AI would dry up pretty quickly.

      Last stat I heard was Microsoft spent $5B to make $3B.

      One of the big players is going to blink at that burn rate and stop subsidizing AI. Then all of the others will follow suit quickly.

      • Nephilium

        There’s already been some business analysis done that’s showing that the companies that are touting their big AI spends are at best staying stable, most are showing losses over the time before they started dumping money in AI.

      • rhywun

        Bubble like it’s 1999.

      • (((Jarflax

        Bubble? No, no it’s just a paradigm shift in valuation, and business models. Basing valuations on profitability is so 20th Century. Now we understand that pumping up share prices and issuing new shares is where the real money is. 30x? Rookie Numbers! ∞X is where it’s at! No profits, no revenue, lots of shares!

      • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

        Bubble like it’s 1999.

        I was dreamin’ when I wrote this
        So sue me if I go too fast
        But life is just a party
        And parties weren’t meant to last

      • Ted S.

        Narrator: Pistoffnick was really kissing Valentino by a crystal blue Italian stream.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      AI’s already ripped through multiple industries and is doing an excellent job. There’s no reckoning down the road. How far the transformation goes remains to be seen, but there are many job easily replaceable by it. For example, copy editors are being laid off wholesale. Consulting agencies are trimming their ranks as they found AI can produce the same summary in seconds that it took 10 entry level workers a month to do. Yeah, you still need the senior person to review the report and maybe you keep 1 or 2 entry people to review it before it goes the senior person, but that’s 8 people no longer necessary.

      The best analogy I can come up with is this is the difference between 10 people digging a hole with shovels versus one guy using an excavator (AI). The excavator doesn’t need to think.

      • slumbrew

        My buddy is a former insurance underwriter (construction), stints at Zurich, AIG, Liberty. He’s now a house husband. The job market dried up a while back.

        He said years ago that automation was going to swallow those jobs as they were fairly rote.

      • The Last American Hero

        Very visible in accounting. It can’t be trusted, but it puts clerks into the role of reviewer rather than preparer which means fewer clerks are needed.

        You won’t lose your job to AI. You will lose your job to someone who know how to use AI.

    • The Other Kevin

      The All In Podcast talked about this last week. They think AI is like the early stages of the Internet, where in every board room they wanted to get their company in on the new trend. AI is having more of a correction than a bubble being popped.

  5. PieInTheSky

    Democrats Are Reportedly Paying $8K A Month To Rent Fake Friends Online

    Wow miss avocado toast actually reported something

    • Not Adahn

      Yeah, why would Tay-Lo be on that story? Who fed her the info, and why did she agree to run with it? I’m guessing she wasn’t offered the $8k tier.

      • juris imprudent

        If they didn’t even offer it to her she’d be blubbering about it. “They left me out” – waaaaahhhhhh.

    • Grumbletarian

      My outrage meter is low on this. So they’re hiring paid spokespeople. So what?

    • (((Jarflax

      For $8k/mo. I want benefits, and very hot friends.

      • AlexinCT

        With benefits, right?

      • (((Jarflax

        I am side eying you so hard right now! Replying to my 10 word comment to make the same joke, exactly? Steal your own material!

    • R C Dean

      A couple of thoughts:

      The contracts said “under no circumstances are you to ever disclose we are paying you”. So it’s unethical, for starters.

      Why Tay-Lo? Why now? I’m guessing there is a big expose coming on the Astroturf-Industrial Complex, and they wanted to get ahead of it so they could say “old news”.

      Oh, and Tay-Lo is on the payroll. One of the dark money outfits (with a history of laundering USAID funds, and part of the Soros network) hired her when she left the Post.

  6. PieInTheSky

    Former CDC official used term ‘pregnant people’ in resignation letter

    that is a strange way to refer to menstruators

    • Ownbestenemy

      Egg producers

      • SDF-7

        Mythical beings… or is that only around here?

      • Not Adahn

        Brood mares.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^I LIKE THAT^^^

    • juris imprudent

      Put a red bonnet and cloak on that pregnant person and they damn sure know the difference.

    • DrOtto

      Front hole havers

    • (((Jarflax

      I believe the correct nomenclature is Persons assigned oppression at birth.

  7. Not Adahn

    Today’s NPR gotta NPR: they did a story about the shooting in MN, referred to the gunpersyn by using “they” pronouns.

    • AlexinCT

      The job of the legacy media is to gaslight the idiots that still watch/listen/read it into believing the lies that make them think being a marxist douchebag makes you a better human being instead of an idiot and/or evil fool.

    • juris imprudent

      My favorite part is mentioning Trump on the magazine, while ignoring the “kill” in front of that.

      • AlexinCT

        And I guarantee you they thought that was incredibly clever to do too, JI.

    • rhywun

      I thought the cowardly murderer claimed to be “female”. Why are they misgendering her?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I like the suggestion, for all these cowards regardless of their identity to just call then “it”

        They (school shooters) arent people in my eyes

    • R C Dean

      The local news had a story last night. Yup, it was “the motive remains a mystery”. No mention of transing, although they sort of mumbled about Robin, used to be Robert.

      To be honest, though, I’m not sure “bugfuck nuts” really counts as a motive.

      • juris imprudent

        Ironically, white supremacist might have actually worked, but that really breaks the trans+tolerance narrative.

      • Common Tater

        Racist femboys have been a thing for years. It’s running joke with some truth to it. Not that the shooter was a femboy.

  8. AlexinCT

    WHERE THE WHITE WOMEN AT?

    • Gender Traitor

      Well, I’m working on that stupid Squaredle puzzle. I blame Sean for getting me hooked on it. 😒

      • SDF-7

        Well, since you brought it up then… today’s wasn’t bad, admittedly.

        I played https://squaredle.com/xp 08/29:
        *19/19 words
        🎯 Perfect accuracy

        I played https://squaredle.com 08/29:
        *60/60 words (+5 bonus words)
        🎯 Perfect accuracy
        🔥 Solve streak: 917

      • Sean

        I played https://squaredle.com/xp 08/29:
        *19/19 words (+3 bonus words)
        ⏱️ In the top 7% by speed

        I played https://squaredle.com 08/29:
        60/60 words (+14 bonus words)
        📖 In the top 15% by bonus words
        🔥 Solve streak: 1037

        Meh. I’m a lil preoccupied this morning.

      • Threedoor

        Don’t need to know how to spell or will this teach me to spell?

  9. PieInTheSky

    I received a call marked by my phone as spam from Texas US. Is one of you bastards prank calling me?

    • AlexinCT

      It might be some guy in Mumbai that will tell you his name is Mike, in a clearly Indian accent, calling you because you failed to properly pay your EU taxes, and he needs you to go buy gift cards and send them to him so he pays them for you….

      • Rat on a train

        He failed to show for jury duty and now has an arrest warrant but Mike can clear that up.

      • Threedoor

        It’s the scam cop beneficent society or the UCR/MCS150 filers.

    • UnCivilServant

      It’s probably spoofed.

    • The Other Kevin

      About a year ago I called 2 places about personal loans. Right now I’m getting 10-12 calls a day from the “load department” telling me I’m pre approved for a $75k with $300 monthly payments. I never take the calls but they all leave voice mail. And I can’t block them because they’re all from spoofed numbers.

      • R C Dean

        My phone is set to block (well, silence) any calls that aren’t on my contact list. They can still leave a message, but about 98% of them don’t. It’s easy to tell who is cold-calling me because they don’t have a name on my screen.

        To be fair, I rarely expect calls from somebody new, and so when I do, I have to check the voicemails or temporarily turn off “contact list only”.

  10. rhywun

    Trump Admin Launches Investigation of Link Between Psychiatric Drugs and Trans Violence After MN Shooting

    🍿

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, the fact that we pretend pumping immature people with mental disorders full of hormones and other wicked drugs could not result is some serious mental degradation and a desperation to commit violence to give their lives meaning, baffles me…

      • EvilSheldon

        But enough about schoolteachers…

      • The Other Kevin

        The Dems are of course coming out swinging against this. I would love to see how much money these critics are getting from pharma companies.

      • juris imprudent

        TOK, doesn’t need money – if Trump is for it, we’re agin’ it.

      • Threedoor

        Sheldon wins the internet today.

  11. Not Adahn

    Thanks again to ZWAK, who’s suggestion makes aiming the tinygat much easier (though still more awkward than a gun with good ergos).

    Pics here, along with my EDC for size comparison. Note that my 10rd 9mm is smaller in every dimension than the 6 round .38 spl. And mine had much better ergos and sights. However, the trigger on this Agent is kind of amazing. DA is heavy but smooooth (and much shorter than the CZ). SA is the shortest, cleanest break of anything I own. I don’t know if that’s because the previous owner had a trigger job done on it or what. I can’t see the serial number, so I’ll go through my paperwork for it and see when it was manufactured, but I can’t believe (maybe I should?) that it was used often enough to create this.

    https://www.glibertarians.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/tinygats.jpg

    • SDF-7

      Why am I now expecting Not Adahn to have to go to the men’s room or pick up some cannoli?

      • Not Adahn

        There are cannoli in the cafeteria. This place is infested with Italians.

      • (((Jarflax

        Leave the race gun, take the cannoli, is an expensive plan.

    • Sean

      Yo pimp!

      Send both those bitches out and get ’em hard chromed.

      • Not Adahn

        I had the EDC slide engraved, and posted it here back in the day.

      • Sean

        Nice

      • Not Adahn

        The cerakote has NOT stood up well to EDC, as you can kind of tell in the pic.

      • Threedoor

        Not Adahn is a scholar and a gentleman.

    • EvilSheldon

      Spiffy. I love the factory (?) hammer shroud.

      Colt wheelguns always had a rep for great triggers.

      • Not Adahn

        I like it too (and it is factory). It gives you just enough to thumb back the hammer.

        We truly live in a golden age of manufactured goods though. Yes I bought the classic used for $250, but the modern gun is just better in (almost) every way and cheaper.

        I will be bringing them both to the BUG match in October, it’ll be interesting to see the difference in both raw time and points down.

      • EvilSheldon

        Revolvers are objectively much better than autoloaders for use in an entangled fight. You can’t put the slide out of battery with a contact shot or someone grappling you for your gun*, and they don’t malfunction when you’re shooting from retention. You can also fire them from inside a pocket or a bag without a malfunction.

        * – You can keep a DA revolver from firing in a grapple by clamping down hard on the cylinder, but that’s much more difficult and it can be easily countered by turning the frame of the revolver opposite the directing of cylinder rotation. The first time I saw this demonstrated (at a Greg Ellifritz close-quarter shooting class) it was like watching someone turn water into wine…

  12. juris imprudent

    President Donald Trump announced on Wednesday that he is working with Republican lawmakers to craft a new crime bill.

    Oh yeah baby, give me more federalization under that non-existent police power!

    [queue Witcher saying fuck]

    • Ownbestenemy

      Mmhmm, I am sure there is a quote from a Ben Franklin, some stuff old white dude, that fits this line of thinking.

    • SDF-7

      1) Better than crafting an EO to do stupid unconstitutional shit.

      2) “working with Republican lawmakers” — so either it will never happen (but will be a vehicle for lots of graft and pork) or it will do the exact opposite.

      When they named the GOP — their one and only good decision was when they realized “The Party of Shooting Ourselves in the Dick” wasn’t going to be a popular name.

    • Fourscore

      Outlaw crime! Make it against the law!

      Just one more “comprehensive” law will bring rainbows, peace and harmony.

      Now if we could teach kids to read so they will understand it…

    • WTF

      It’s probably mostly designed to get the Democrats to knee-jerk defend crime (or at least look like they are).

      • juris imprudent

        Hurr-durr-hurr’s masturbate furiously.

  13. PieInTheSky

    I had a weird dream that I went to the US and was driving on a long road there to get somewhere, which is weird cause I have no idea how American roads look like. What i remember is that I was trying to drive the speed limit – something difficult for me – as I was in a foreign country, and other cars were passing me.

    • Ownbestenemy

      You described an American highway perfectly

    • Rat on a train

      Around here you will get passed if you drive the speed limit.

    • SDF-7

      Like everyone else… that sounds about right, especially if you’re out West.

      You probably fell asleep binge watching CHiPs, Pie. We all know you find Estrada dreamy….

      • Rat on a train

        See any cars towing ramps?

    • UnCivilServant

      So you have been to the US before.

    • R.J.

      Must have been Oklahoma.

      • Suthenboy

        No, he said it was a long road going somewhere.

      • Not Adahn

        The roads in OK go in the direction they’re going. If there’s something to the west of you, get on a road going west, and you’ll go west. NY highways are NOT like that.

        I used to take a fraternity brother storm chasing. Navigation was simple. Then again, all storms are born in Wichita Falls and move ENE.

      • UnCivilServant

        There’s a reason for that – New York has hills, Oklahoma is much flatter.

      • Not Adahn

        I think the reason is more likely that the roads in OK were pre-planned and the roads in NY were ad-hoc. The flat part of OK is only west of the timber barrier, and even there has the Quartz and Ouachita mountains and the like. Also, the much later settlement of OK meant that roadbuilding tech was much more advanced — highways are pretty straight through the Ouachitas with cuts and fill ’cause dynamite.

        You can see something similar in how municipalities get further spread out as the transportation available to the settlers improved.

      • Rat on a train

        Reminds me of navigating coastal SoCal. Major streets every half mile in a grid.

      • UnCivilServant

        You’re not going to convince me that any planning went into Oklahoman roads.

      • UnCivilServant

        I am willing to entertain the idea that NY roads were designed to be evil and convoluted. But I also recognize that most are just old oxcart tracks.

      • Rat on a train

        Columbia MD did actually design their roads to be evil and convoluted.

      • Gender Traitor

        Oklahoma roads may have been planned. They’re just not maintained. On the way back from the southwest headed to an overnight stop in OK City, the ride was so bumpy TT pulled over onto the shoulder of the interstate and asked me to get out and make sure we didn’t have a flat tire. We mentioned this to the OKC hotel desk clerk, and she replied, “Yeah, once I DID get a flat tire and thought it was just the road.”

    • Threedoor

      They look like German roads with less construction and fewer upside down cars.

  14. Tonio

    Good Morning and Happy Friday to you all.

    More good news: FAFO, FEMA edition

    FEMA has long had a well-deserved reputation as a turkey farm, bloated and inefficient even by fedgov standards.

    • R.J.

      Biden era? Hell, they sucked under the Bush dynasty.

      • DrOtto

        Doin’ a hell of a job Brownie

  15. PieInTheSky

    High-status opinions vs luxury beliefs: the economics of the “Great Awokening”
    A friendly critique of Rob Henderson’s theory of “luxury beliefs”

    https://insider.iea.org.uk/p/high-status-opinions-vs-luxury-beliefs?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=wylle&triedRedirect=true

    My argument in 2014 was that woke beliefs had become what economists call “positional goods”, and which, in everyday language, we call “status symbols”: goods which people use in order to signal a high standing in a social hierarchy. The displaying of positional goods is what economists call “conspicuous consumption”, and which normal people call “showing off”.

    Rob’s argument goes as follows:

    In the past, members of the upper classes used to display their status via luxury goods. However, nowadays, crass materialism is considered vulgar. The only people who still do that are gangster rappers, oil sheiks, Russian oligarchs, and Donald Trump. So today, the elites signal their status via luxury beliefs rather than luxury goods. A luxury belief is a belief that confers a high social status on the person expressing it, but which, if it becomes actual policy or social norm, would have a terrible impact on the poor. The best example is the fashionable slogan “Defund the Police”.

    Some of Rob’s critics have pointed out a flaw in his theory: it does not fit the survey evidence very well. Let’s stick with the “Defund the Police” example. It is true that support for that position is positively correlated with income: rich people are more likely to support it than poor people. But the correlation is not especially strong, so if it is supposed to be a signal of wealth, it is not a very reliable one.

    A much better predictor of whether you support defunding the police is self-professed political orientation: the further to the Left you are, the more likely you are to support that view. That predictor also has the feature I’ve just mentioned: it allows very left-wing people to differentiate themselves from those they might plausibly be mistaken for, namely moderates, and people on the less radical Left.

    In a different context, Eric Kaufman finds a very similar pattern. When it comes to support for woke positions, the biggest gap is not between right-wingers and centrists, or even between centrists and the moderate Left. It is between the moderate Left and the radical Left.

    • UnCivilServant

      I’d rather they go back to conspicuous consumption.

      It causes less damage.

      • Fourscore

        Wearing shoes on weekdays?

    • juris imprudent

      high standing in a social hierarchy

      Stupid monkeys.

    • Nephilium

      Only 11 taps? I’ve been to sports bars with more Belgians on tap than that.

      • R.J.

        You are a spoiled Amerikaner who does not understand the sufferings of the Euros.

      • juris imprudent

        Narrator: There weren’t really 11 different Belgians on tap, they all went to the same keg. No one would know the difference since they are were certain the one they were drinking was the best one.

      • Nephilium

        juris imprudent:

        I was being a bit flippant, as one of our sports bar chains also has an amazing beer selection. They also have very good relations with the local importers, and would routinely put together some epic beer tasting nights (such as 10 different Cantillon sours on tap).

      • juris imprudent

        Neph, I used to frequent this establishment. IIRC they had 100 taps in the San Diego location. I sampled maybe a dozen out of that.

    • Threedoor

      Pie and I agree a Belgians.

    • UnCivilServant

      He left out the question of whether the “They spent 700 million” factoid running about is real. Because the dead cat bounce won’t cover that.

  16. Brochettaward

    Here’s a crazy thought I’ve proposed before, but seems particularly obvious with this whack job shooter. STOP FUCKING MAKING THEM FAMOUS. This whack job, like many of them, see the shootings as a means of achieving infamy and gaining attention that they could never get otherwise. This has been true since Columbine. But we keep plastering their manifestos everywhere and people can’t stop politicizing every shooting in an attempt to score cheap political points that never actually amount to anything for either side.

    I realize that this is going to happen in a free society, but this is a sign of a broken culture. Not gun culture, but look-at-me culture. Fame-seeking culture. Our media has no sense of public duty and people are more interested in the unseemly details than they are anything else.

    • Not Adahn

      This guy is NOT being made famous by the MSM. This will eventually teach (white) mass shooters that the way to fame is to only shoot up Black churches. Which from the Media’s perspective is a Win-Win.

    • Nephilium

      It’s the people, not the media that’s the problem here. The ones that have gone quiet are the ones that people (even me) keep bringing up here, such as the Vegas shooting.

      • Ownbestenemy

        The Vegas who?

    • DrOtto

      That’s precisely why they do it, to promote more of it. Can’t grab guns if you don’t have “gun violence” to point at.

    • EvilSheldon

      It’s not cheap political points so much as cheap advertising clicks.

      Mass shooters seek attention more than anything else, and the media gives it to them because that’s how the media gets paid.

    • juris imprudent

      Fame-seeking culture.

      Also, stupid monkeys.

    • Drake

      Or just stop making them.
      They mutilated his body and dumped vast quantities of artificial hormones into his body during his teens. It was supposed to make him happy. It made him an insane nihilist. He could have grown out of it and been a healthy (probably gay) man instead of this.

      • juris imprudent

        From one source it doesn’t appear his mother was the problem, so probably some therapist. Oh and his mother had worked at that church/school.

      • Brochettaward

        I mean, most mass shooters aren’t “trans.” There are two ones in recent memory.

        I’m speaking on the far larger trend going on here rather than a sporadic case or two. Given the increased prevalence of the gender dysphoria diagnosis, I’m not even sure you could argue it’s that strange that we now have one or two cases of trannie mass shooters. It was probably inevitable.

        I’m obviously not endorsing any of the gender confusion being instilled into children or saying it wasn’t a factor in this case, but it’s not really the larger issue to me when talking about mass shooters.

      • invisible finger

        The mother wasn’t the problem.

        When a teenager presents problems at school, the first thing a school does is deny the school atmosphere has anything to do with the problem and if a psychiatrist finds any reason at all to send the kid to a psych ward, the end is near.

        Because the psych ward is there to affirm everything the kid says as gospel truth. If the kid is pissed at mom or dad for any reason, the psych ward considers the parents as the problem. So if the parents don’t affirm the kid’s gender confusion, Tim Walz’s Minnesoda takes custody of the kid. So the parents really have no choice but to affirm if they have an ounce of love for their child. If you think Believe All Women was batshit insane, it was merely an extension of the psych industry’s Believe All Children nonsense.

        What I’m saying is that Marxism has taken hold of the mental health industry. The states get federal money for this shit – anything to destroy the nuclear family.

      • Brochettaward

        “Trans.” I think what you have is an over-diagnosis of trans in general. There’s overlap with the fucked up youths who would commit school shootings and those who would be diagnosed as trans.

        I’d also like to see more identifying information on these shooters so I could at least do my own research. I don’t agonize over the identify of mass shooters in general, but the only two that I can think of who were trans were this one and the Nashville shooter. But if there’s more overlap, I’d say it’s probably because of the above.

      • juris imprudent

        anything to destroy the nuclear family.

        In this case the parents had already divorced.

      • Common Tater

        “They mutilated his body and dumped vast quantities of artificial hormones into his body during his teens.”

        Source?

      • Drake

        Source? That is literally what it means to ‘transition’.

      • juris imprudent

        Drake judging from the pics we’ve seen – he wasn’t very far in “treatment”. I doubt it will ever be exposed, but it would be interesting to find out who pushed him; it wasn’t his mother.

      • EvilSheldon

        Some self-identified trans people don’t do hormones or surgery. They just live as the other gender, in dress and/or deportment, some or all of the time. You see this quite a bit with older MTFs.

        Of course there’s overlap there with cross-dressers who aren’t trans. And I’m sure that there are people with actual clinical gender dysphoria who don’t ever undergo surgical transition at all.

      • EvilSheldon

        I’d also like to see more identifying information on these shooters so I could at least do my own research. I don’t agonize over the identify of mass shooters in general, but the only two that I can think of who were trans were this one and the Nashville shooter. But if there’s more overlap, I’d say it’s probably because of the above.

        Quite a few of those ‘trans’ spree killers actually identified as ‘non-binary’, which goes along quite well with narcissistic attention-seeking.

        Come up with a psychiatric treatment for malevolent narcissism, and you actually might make a noticeable dent in spree killings…

      • Common Tater

        “Source? That is literally what it means to ‘transition’.”

        So you are just making things up. Got it.

    • AlexinCT

      Here’s a crazy thought I’ve proposed before, but seems particularly obvious with this whack job shooter. STOP FUCKING MAKING THEM FAMOUS.

      Totally disagree. Make them infamous, then use them as a reason to bring back mental asylums to lock the lot of them in. These people need to be taken OUT of society. Not bargained with.

      • juris imprudent

        Who’s making the determination to lock them up? The same mental health professionals that are behind this insanity? New ones? Maybe some with the explicit incentive to lock people up?

        It ain’t getting fixed.

      • Brochettaward

        Yea dude. Let’s give the government the power to lock up even more people and it certainly won’t be abused!

        This guy was crazy, but he wasn’t someone who would end up in an asylum, anyway. You are more likely to end up in an asylum than he would be given the state of our medical industrial complex and our government bureaucracy.

      • EvilSheldon

        If you make them famous, it just makes more of them.

      • AlexinCT

        Yea dude. Let’s give the government the power to lock up even more people and it certainly won’t be abused!

        Who said about giving the government this power? I am talking about family members doing it.

      • Brochettaward

        That’s even more hopelessly naive.

        How many of these mass shooters would have been committed to an asylum by family? And at the end of the day, it’s going to be medical professionals making the ultimate determination as to who is or isn’t committed.

        Like it or not, this nut job could likely sit there and hold a normal conversation with your or any medical professional. He was evil and sociopathic, but he’s not some drooling at the mouth crazy who would have been committed to an asylum by his family (who seem to have endorsed the trannie shit, anyway).

        I pose the same question to you that I do to the left when they propose “common sense” gun laws in response to mass shootings. Find me just one mass shooting that your proposed solution would have actually prevented. If you can’t do that, then get the fuck out of here.

      • juris imprudent

        And you think this tard’s mother was going to lock him up? Name one in the last 50 years where the family said “we shoulda locked that little shit up”.

      • Brochettaward

        I’m also deeply uncomfortable prioritizing gun rights over basic bodily autonomy and freedom for whole classes of people who likely would never harm anyone to weed out the fraction of a percentage who may eventually become mass shooters. So even if you could actually funnel the psychopaths into the asylums, how many innocent/harmless individuals are going with them?

        This shit is just the right’s response or version of we must do something even if that something is fucking retarded and obviously anti-freedom.

      • AlexinCT

        How many of these mass shooters would have been committed to an asylum by family?

        Every single one of them if the family was also held accountable. We have already prosecuted parents for the crime of these asshats.

      • EvilSheldon

        Sticking difficult people in asylums is what they did in Soviet Russia, among other places that I don’t want to live.

      • juris imprudent

        Oh so we’re going to extend guilt beyond the actual person responsible?

        Good luck with that white man.

      • Brochettaward

        Every single one of them if the family was also held accountable. We have already prosecuted parents for the crime of these asshats.

        And where do we draw the line at holding parents and family to account for crimes? Particularly when we are talking about adults committing these crimes such as in this case?

        The reality is that most people don’t envision their family member or friend going on a mass killing spree in the first place.

        Honestly, “common sense” gun control laws sound more reasonable than the shit you are suggesting and I find them unreasonable.

      • AlexinCT

        Sticking difficult people in asylums is what they did in Soviet Russia, among other places that I don’t want to live.

        These people were not considered difficult because they were playing with a deck of cards missing an entire suit, though. They just understood the evil of the communist government. Homeless people in the US and the lot of these demented shooters are what they are because they are definitely a six pack short of a full case. Be it the drugs or the marxist praxis indoctrination. Assuming we would lock everyone up for just being “difficult” is crazy.

      • AlexinCT

        The reality is that most people don’t envision their family member or friend going on a mass killing spree in the first place.

        Really? You telling me that this monsters parents, or for that matter those of every other shooter, never saw a serious problem? It is one thing being a jackass child, and a completely different one when you start fantasizing and acting out murder sprees. if they didn’t see it, it is because they didn’t want to see it.

      • AlexinCT

        And it is not a coincidence these types are also basement dwellers…

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        There’s no magic solution to prevent mass killers. There’s always going to be rapid animals hidden amongst humans. The best way to mitigate the damage is to not disarm humans to prevent them from fighting back.

        Freedom doesn’t mean safety. If some crazy nut kills my children, I’m still ultimately the one accountable for their safety. You can’t offload that responsibility to a school.

      • Brochettaward

        Assuming we would lock everyone up for just being “difficult” is crazy.

        Assuming our government would resort to tyranny if we aren’t armed is crazy.
        Assuming red flag laws would be abused to strip responsible gun owners of their rights is crazy.
        Assuming common sense gun laws will be abused to strip responsible gun owners of their guns is crazy.

        See how easy this is?

        If you don’t think these assholes would abuse the sorts of powers you are talking about, you haven’t been paying attention to the state of our medical industrial complex or courts. Imagine another “pandemic” and think about what they would have done if they could have committed science deniers and vaccine skeptics to asylums for wrong think. Don’t think they would have done it or at least threatened to have done so? It only takes a few examples to have a chilling effect.

        Most mass shooters aren’t outwardly that different from any other number of anti-social assholes running around who never do anything.

      • (((Jarflax

        I’m all for locking the criminally insane away forever, and executing criminals. But only after they actually commit a crime. If you want to prevent crime you need to come up with something better than “Lock them up” because before they commit a crime you can’t identify them. It would probably help if we reduced the amount of obviously false dogma we force kids to pretend to believe, and probably help if we stopped mass medicating them to better fit in to an inhuman education model, but pretending that it is either moral, or possible, to pre-identify criminals and remove them is far more scary than any shooter.

      • The Last American Hero

        Part of the explosion on social media was the way the government quashed the manifesto for a looong time. This time, social media was ready to pounce and got their hands on the goods before the government could lock shit down.

        As far as the asylums go, I work downtown 1 day a week. I literally see a homeless zombie pissing or defecating in a park once a month. So if I was downtown every day, not a week would go by that I wouldn’t see this. The zombies need to be locked up. Sorry.

      • EvilSheldon

        “Assuming we would lock everyone up for just being “difficult” is crazy.”

        I’m sure the Russians thought that too.

        Me today, you tomorrow.

      • AlexinCT

        There’s no magic solution to prevent mass killers. There’s always going to be rapid animals hidden amongst humans. The best way to mitigate the damage is to not disarm humans to prevent them from fighting back.

        This. But if we are forced to do something, deal with the sick fucks, not the law abiding citizens.

      • EvilSheldon

        Most mass shooters aren’t outwardly that different from any other number of anti-social assholes running around who never do anything.

        This can’t be overstated.

        There are often warning signs that you can see (much better with 20/20 hindsight), but those warning signs are easily misinterpreted and overlooked, and they often never amount to anything anyway.

      • juris imprudent

        Assuming we would lock everyone up for just being “difficult” is crazy.

        [Carrie Buck rises from the grave and shoves her foot up Alex‘s ass.]

      • juris imprudent

        forced to do something

        Interesting twist on we have to do something!

    • SandMan

      There is at least one organization, “No Notariety” that hammers on this point. Unfortunately they don’t get much traction.

  17. PieInTheSky

    Fashionable ideas
    The aesthetics of information (and reflections on luxury beliefs).

    https://www.conspicuouscognition.com/p/fashionable-ideas?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=wylle&triedRedirect=true

    In an ideally rational world, people would evaluate ideas based solely on their epistemic merits. What is the quantity and quality of evidence for a hypothesis? Does it cohere with well-established bodies of scientific knowledge? What precise, surprising predictions does it generate? Does it provide a basis for powerful and parsimonious explanations, unifying otherwise disparate phenomena? And so on.

    Needless to say, people fall very short of this ideal. There are many familiar reasons for this, such as cognitive laziness, self-serving bias, tribalism, and social conformity. However, I think one reason is curiously under-explored: the aesthetics of beliefs.

    People often gravitate towards ideas because they are, in some sense, cool. They embrace beliefs and theories much like they choose clothes—based on what’s fashionable or trendy. They ask, albeit implicitly and instinctively, “Would this idea look good on me?” “Is it chic to think and talk in this way?” “Does this belief suit my style and convey the right messages about me?”

    This is very noticeable as a humanities academic. Many influential thinkers and ideas within the humanities are clearly treated as trendy. As with other fashions, this status changes over time, and different thinkers and ideas are cool to different communities, but the phenomenon is striking nonetheless.

    I see it a lot in how students respond to different thinkers. Marx? Cool. Judith Butler? Cool. Camus? Cool. The logical positivists? Not cool. John Rawls? Actively uncool. Bertrand Russell? Cringe. And so on.

    • rhywun

      College students giggling and having a grand old time while cheering for the destruction of Israel tells me everything I need to know about “trendy beliefs”.

    • juris imprudent

      ideally rational world

      Assume a spherical cow.

      • SDF-7

        “That’s no moooon…”

    • Fourscore

      He even has a ‘sconnie accent. Great kid with great parents.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The ending is the part that I really liked. Need more kids like that.

  18. Suthenboy

    When my brother and I were 4 and 5 years old my crazy grandfather took us fishing in his little john boat. He was loading the boat next to the dock when my mother said “Daddy, you cant put that much stuff in there. The boat is going to sink.”
    “No, it’ll float”
    He loaded more and more into the boat until the water was less than an inch from spilling in. “It’ll float!” he kept saying.
    He put one more ice chest in it and it started taking water. As the boat was sinking and even when he was chest deep in the water with the boat on the bottom he was still saying “It’ll float!”. Of course I could barely hear him over my mother hysterically screaming at him “I told you so!”
    What a clown show. Even at that young age my brother and i were looking back and forth at each other silently asking “What the hell did we just see?”

    Dont worry, AI will never replace us. We are like all of those people in cemetaries – indispensible.

    • PieInTheSky

      crazy like a fox?

    • Nephilium

      I’ll worry about that when general AI gets here. LLMs are not general AI, and I don’t believe they are the correct path to lead to gAI. They’re an interesting tool and good for summarizing large amounts of text, but they are not good at drawing conclusions, fact checking, verification, validation, decision making, understanding, or basic logic.

      • Suthenboy

        So….it’ll float?

      • Nephilium

        Suthenboy:

        This is an industry I work in. The company I work for is heavily investing in LLMs. The company is bleeding talent and has gotten increasingly toxic as deadlines get missed. It’s going horribly and does not match the public stories.

        So no, I’m pretty sure the LLM bubble is going to sink, just like the boat.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

      • Suthenboy

        I am just now looking at the Daily ray of sunshine. It is exactly what you describe. The AI narration is almost good…almost. There is something key missing. I guess what i am saying is that I expect that to change very soon and Stossel will be unemployed.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Suthen:

        The Daily Ray is from a real reporter here in Minnesoda. Boyd Huppert is the guy’s name. He has a channel where he goes around doing nice stories from MN/WI

        As far as AI goes, my opinion is that it is the latest Big Thing in IT. It does some stuff very well. It doesn’t do everything as great as the people pushing it would want you to believe. At this point companies are scrambling to try to incorporate it into their product lines because “everyone is doing it!”.

        After a while, people will look back at AI adoption with the same bemusement as we look at IoT enabled washing machines now. Why would you try to use for this task? It makes no sense.

      • The Other Kevin

        The big names in tech are saying this same thing right now. It seems the predictions that AI will bring utopia, and AI will be the end of humanity, are both overblown.

  19. Common Tater

    Fox News needs to stop with the autoplay.

    • Threedoor

      Autoplay combined with audio off is one of the most annoying things on the internet today.

  20. Suthenboy

    Luxury beleifs 150 years ago: Little Tommy runs into the kitchen while mom is stuffing wood into the stove. “Mommy! I think I am a girl!” *does exaggerated swish across the room* “I feel so pretty!”
    Mom, not looking up, still stuffing wood into the stove “Yeah? Great. Now get your ass out there and feed the chickens. Then you have to muck the stalls. When you are finished go help your father stir the molasses. If we dont get the molasses sold this year we are going to be eating acorns and poke salad all winter. Stop fooling around and get busy.”

    I dont think there was a lot of debate back then about pronouns.

    • AlexinCT

      Exactly. Too many people do not have to worry about food, shelter, or even nature & crime, so they now dwell on the marxist bullshit their heads were filled with be it in college 30+ years ago, or these days right in the K-12 system. These are the people, living in gated/protected communities, that think the idiocy of the left make them better human beings, because they care.

      • juris imprudent

        Funny thing, but caring isn’t a Marxist value/concept. But it is Judeo-Christian!

      • Rat on a train

        The early church was communist!!!

      • EvilSheldon

        “I don’t want no commies in my car. No Christians either.”

      • juris imprudent

        Yes, give all of your wealth to the church, never mind the opulence, it pleases the Lord.

      • AlexinCT

        Funny thing, but caring isn’t a Marxist value/concept. But it is Judeo-Christian!

        The lemmings that claim to have read Marx, but either never did or did and didn’t understand him, all believe marxism is the ultimate and noblest of value systems, because all are equal and the abusers are punished, while religion is evil and a way to manipulate and control people into accepting the status quo.

      • juris imprudent

        Alex one of Nietzsche’s most pointed criticisms was directed at revolutionaries (e.g. Marx) and their devotion to slave morality (Judeo-Christian values).

      • Pope Jimbo

        JI gets it!

        *squints at church ledgers*

        Seems like a lot of you Glibs haven’t been sending your tithes in to me. We will be collecting at the Honey Harvest.

      • UnCivilServant

        Jimbo, Jimbo, Jimbo. You haven’t been paying your cut for the financial processing access fees.

        You’re free to play church, but to handle money you have to pay to play.

      • Pope Jimbo

        UCS:

        You better watch out. I’m going to flip that table right over on your evil money changing head. That is just how us religious folx roll.

  21. Common Tater

    “But following the initial outreach, many creators expressed concern about some stipulations. According to copies of the contract viewed by WIRED, creators in the program must funnel all bookings with lawmakers and political leaders through Chorus. Creators also have to loop Chorus in on any independently organized engagements with government officials or political leaders.”

    Their adherence to top-down central planning is why they can’t compete with the right, who can act independently.

    • Common Tater

      “The goal of Chorus, according to a fundraising deck obtained by WIRED, is to “build new infrastructure to fund independent progressive voices online at scale.” The creators who joined the incubator are expected to attend regular advocacy trainings and daily messaging check-ins. Those messaging check-ins are led by Cohen on “rapid response days.” The creators also have to attend at least two Chorus “newsroom” events per month, which are events Chorus plans, often with lawmakers.”

      LOL

      • juris imprudent

        That word “independent”, I do not think it means what you think it does.

      • EvilSheldon

        This organization structure is creepily cult-like.

    • Suthenboy

      So, a highly organized, top-down micro-managed propaganda operation. And it shows. And people can spot it right off. And people are getting sick of their shit and starting to hand waive them away.

      This is why failure is built right into their ideology.

      • Suthenboy

        I can see the eleventy million followers of these ‘independent influencers’ asking “What’s that awful smell?”

      • R C Dean

        Hand WAVE. Not waive.

        That is all. Carry on.

  22. The Other Kevin

    I never got the comparisons of Trump to Hitler, until now. It looks like the LGTBQ+ community is worried about what Trump will do, and some are looking to leave the country. The right wing pundits predicted this and knew when it would happen.

    So just like Hitler, Trump is getting the trans to run, right on time.

    • juris imprudent

      Shpip, what are you doing in TOK’s account?

      • The Other Kevin

        I’ve always been fond of Dad jokes, Shpip is just bringing out the best (or worst) in me.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, and the joke is that whole story was about the Italians. German trains were always punctual. But all of the morons comparing Trump to Hitler never get that. SMDH

    • SandMan

      Ok, I laughed!

  23. Common Tater

    “The National Institutes of Health (NIH) plans to continue creating novel pandemic viruses in apparent defiance of an executive order signed by President Donald Trump calling for a crackdown on the research, according to three government sources involved with the process, who were granted anonymity to avoid government reprisals….

    Taubenberger had throughout his decades-long career worked with Fauci to defend GOF research, including the work in Wuhan in the early pandemic period. Restrictions would have hampered his own career. Taubenberger revived and published the genome of the infamous 1918 flu, also called the “Spanish Flu.””

    https://dailycaller.com/2025/08/28/exclusive-national-institutes-of-health-gain-of-function-turmp-crackdown/

    CWAA

    • juris imprudent

      Ok firing isn’t sufficient for this one. Fire up the woodchipper.

      • R C Dean

        Guillotine for this one. On the Mall.

    • Suthenboy

      Is there anyone that didnt know this?

      Put every single motherfucker working at the NIH in prison. Every single fucking one of them. Nuremberg style trials and hangings are in order. These people are no less evil or criminal.

      • Threedoor

        My man crush on Suthen intensifies.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I still don’t understand the utility of GOF research.

      Why would you think that the souped up virus you created will be at all what might naturally appear? To a simple kid from the edge of the prairie it sure seems like it is far more likely that you just create a dangerous virus that would never have occurred naturally.

      • (((Jarflax

        I think there is probably utility in GOF research to learn what an enemy might be able to do with bioweapons, and to figure out ways to counter that. That idea raises the question of what kind of retarded monkey outsources the research to the most likely enemy, but that’s about par for the Government.

      • R C Dean

        I think it’s pretty clear by now that GOF (a euphemism for bioweapons) research fails the risk/benefit test.

        Bioweapons just suck for the simple reason that once you release one, you’re pretty much guaranteed to get hit just as hard as your target. So the odds of anyone launching a serious bioweapons attack are extremely low, IMO.

      • UnCivilServant

        Unless your biowepon attacks, say, Maize, and your primary crop is Rice.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        There is some utility in it but it should only be done in a limited and highly controlled fashion, preferably in a lab with sufficient procedures and protocols and a lack of safety fuckups. We were farming that shit out to China for god’s sake and probably still are.

      • juris imprudent

        Disagree Stinky weapons development leads to weapons deployment. WWIII when it happens with be the biologists war, and unlike WWI and WWII, may actually be the war to end all war.

  24. Common Tater

    “Police issue misinformation warning over girl’s weapons arrest”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r40gylxpwo

    Can they censor that picture more? The only thing it tells me is that Scotland has trees.

    • Common Tater

      “BBC News understands that officers have found no evidence to substantiate claims being made online the youths were at risk of sexual assault.”

      So they found nothing after they refused to look?

      “Google A grassy area with a path running through it and houses in the background”

      LOL

      • juris imprudent

        Apparently a Bulgarian taking the video and not a Muslim, so who knows what else isn’t quite right.

      • Brochettaward

        Bulgaria has a sizeable Muslim minority.

      • R.J.

        Jesus. There is no way in God’s Green Earth that you can say those so-called Bulgarians were not provoking those girls, the person holding the camera steadily advanced and asked for it.
        Also “Bulgarian couple” my ass. A pair of imports that pimp out girls is so more likely.

      • Not Adahn

        Bulgarian-Bulgarian, or G-word Bulgarian?

      • Pope Jimbo

        If only there was some credible institution that could look into this and publish their findings.

        The public would be well served by having some neutral party investigate this. Someone should think about starting such a company.

      • R C Dean

        No evidence.

        Other than the testimony of the girls, of course. Testimony is evidence, you know.

        And the video evidence (helpfully provided by the accused), of an adult male following them even when they told him to leave them alone. Which has some corroborative import, I believe.

        And make no mistake. While the rape culture in parts of Eastern Europe probably can’t compete with that of the Indian subcontinent and parts of the Middle East, it is definitely there.

      • juris imprudent

        And the reported 14yo girl is now allegedly a 12yo. If only there were some institution that actually got facts involved before narrative.

      • Common Tater

        “And the reported 14yo girl is now allegedly a 12yo. If only there were some institution that actually got facts involved before narrative.”

        Reported as being sisters, so both of them being 12 is unlikely.

    • Brochettaward

      They could offer clarity by releasing some of their findings and explaining what exactly did happen (or at least what they are alleging happened), but they don’t seem too eager to do that.

      • Suthenboy

        ‘Recruiters’ for the muslim child rape gangs approached the girls and the girls told them to fuck off. 12 yo girls dont arm themelves for no reason. I am guessing it is not uncommon. Initially the girls said the men were following them around and videoing them. They got scared and told them to fuck off. Initially the witnesses who seem to be missing now siad the girls were screaming at them men to not touch them.

        I could be wrong but most of the time things are just what they appear to be.

      • Brochettaward

        Yea, I said it a few days ago. Whatever was happening is so common that these young girls felt the need to arm themselves with whatever weapons they could find.

      • R.J.

        How about….
        We see the faces of the Bulgarian couple? No? Well, we know what that means.

      • rhywun

        It’s almost like they want unrest to happen. Nah, that’s crazy.

      • R.J.

        Suthen, I saw a news story that indicated exactly that based on who first posted that video. Naturally I cannot find it again.

    • Suthenboy

      Huh…the page loaded and then froze. Suddenly I got a blank white screen that said ‘page unresponsive’.

      If you cant trust the british police, who can you trust?

      It was just an innocent bulgarian couple minding their own business when these two pre-teens ferals attacked them with an assault axe for no reason.

      *The cops formerly described the ‘bulgarian couple’ as ‘several youths’, youths being slang for young, unemployed muslim men who go around stirring shit.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        If the British government told me the sky was blue I’d go outside and check. Maybe true, maybe not but my default is they’re full of shit and lying to some degree at least to diffuse the situation. Even our scumbag politicians look honest compared to those fucks.

      • juris imprudent

        If the British government said the sky is blue you know they are lying, it is gray there, always.

  25. robc

    In addition to race, can we not consider party registration or voting patterns in redistricting too?

    I wish all states would adopt the position of the KY supreme court, which says the minimum number of counties can be split. That still allows a lot of gamesmanship, but its fairly minimal. You don’t get batshit insane districts. I would expand it to also minimize splitting cities. If a town is smaller than a district, it would be rare that it would need to be split.

    • Common Tater

      “In addition to race, can we not consider party registration or voting patterns in redistricting too?”

      That shouldn’t matter at all. It should be based on population and geography.

      • juris imprudent

        States are given a number of seats, how they divvie them up is a political decision. Why do you hate politics?

      • robc

        Why? With bigger counties it is even easier to not split them, or the splits is negligible (move a few people into other district). When you have 120 counties like KY, shit can get crazy.

    • creech

      County where I live is split three ways. That means the county has three congressmen, not just one, working for its interests when begging for federal taxpayer funds. Some see this as a feature, not a bug.

  26. R.J.

    I hope the American Glibs enjoy their extra day off due to unionized communism. Are we going to do an all day Zoom?

    • Nephilium

      That’s up to everyone, the Zoom is always open.

    • Suthenboy

      I am happy. It is a long weekend of a much needed soaking rain. I dont drive in the rain and the. house is all clean…..I get to. nap and stir shit on here. Just made a fresh pot of coffee.

    • (((Jarflax

      I’m old, best I can do now is an all day putter.

    • Rat on a train

      Before the Euros complain about the US not following their standard, US Labor Day in September predates Euro Labor Day in May.

    • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

      I will be laboring on Labor Day – not for the man, but for myself.

      Winter is coming and I intend to have at least one working snow blower.

      • Fourscore

        I’m getting a new snowblower, old one ran about 25 years or so. Only about 10 hours a year but still. Some gears stopped not gearing. Fleet-Farm, here I come.

  27. Common Tater

    ““We’re launching studies on the potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing to violence,” the Secretary announced. “You know, many of them on there have black box warnings that warn of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation.””

    https://redstate.com/rusty-weiss/2025/08/28/trump-admin-launches-investigation-of-link-between-psychiatric-drugs-and-trans-violence-after-mn-shooting-n2193316

    So misleading headline.

    • R C Dean

      Back a few years, there was quite a bit of chatter about how many mass shooters were on SSRIs.

      • Suthenboy

        I forgot about that. That got memory holed.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Selection bias-they all have mental issues and SSRIs are a firstline treatment for those. Are they the chicken or the egg?

      • PutridMeat

        One would have to be really careful with correlation vs causation (and direction of causation) with this sort of thing.

        By some estimates, there’s some 10-15% of the US population on anti-depressants, most of which are SSRIs. What that translates to as far as overlap with the population of young men who seem more prone to mass shootings would need to be specified.

        Combine that with the fact that mass shooters are, almost definitionally, psychotic at some level and hence more likely than the general population to be in treatment – given the way we seem to approach all medical problems these days, ‘in treatment’ almost certainly means on drugs. The result is that one can easily envision a situation where the proclivity to give people drugs for problems results in a large fraction of the population taking SSRIs and people predisposed to anti-social behavior will be preferentially in that group results in an over-representation of SSRI users in the group of school shooters without the SSRI being the *causative* agent.

        More simply, do SSRIs *cause* someone to become a school shooter, or is a school shooter, given all the incentives and conditions in the society at large, just much more likely to be on SSRIs?

      • PutridMeat

        Stinky Wizzleteats – Sure, just go ahead and make my point but with more succinctness and clarity.

      • EvilSheldon

        “Combine that with the fact that mass shooters are, almost definitionally, psychotic at some level …”

        Not the case at all. Very few spree killers have been psychotic.

    • juris imprudent

      Odds that this study concludeswhitewashes any association between Big Pharma products and violent anti-social behavior?

    • Suthenboy

      A dedicated green onion chopper. Niiiiiiiiiiice.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Are you sure it doesn’t make you want to cry?

      • UnCivilServant

        I do not use enough green onion for it to make sense to use anything other than a knife.

      • Suthenboy

        You dont live in Louisiana Uncivil. I have a dedicated green onion garden about 10×4 feet. I dont pull them up, I just trim them up about an inich from the ground so they grow back. I have a forevre supply of green onion.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I was watching a YouTube channel that briefly showed one being used for prep. Easily worth its weight in gold over chopping with a knife. Same with the cabbage shredder.

      • PutridMeat

        Easily worth its weight in gold over chopping with a knife. Same with the cabbage shredder.

        Unless you’re processing green onions in a commercial kitchen, I fail to see that. I can get through whatever green onions I need in much less than 30 seconds. Factor in the time to pull the device out of storage, then clean it afterwards, I think I’m ahead of the game. That says nothing of the calming mental benefit that engaging in a task quickly and efficiently brings you. Pretty much same goes for cabbage though sometimes the food processor will come out for that if making a larger amount of slaw or something that requires the food processor for other tasks as well.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Yes, in a commercial kitchen. Only tongue in cheek for having it at home. But any kind of volume, with even slice sizes? Good lord.

      • Gustave Lytton

        My wife complains there’s no room for a pot or dish. No idea where I’d put her.

      • juris imprudent

        Not sure I’d trust those hands with sharp knives.

      • PutridMeat

        Not sure I’d trust those hands with sharp knives.

        Who said anything about handling knives?

      • juris imprudent

        Extra fingers, extra dollars.

    • Not Adahn

      They certainly have a… diverse product line.

  28. Common Tater

    “A Utah judge awarded a family nearly $1 billion dollars — the largest in the state’s history — after a hospital was so negligent in handling a baby girl’s delivery that she will likely suffer a lifetime of disabilities, according to a report.

    Anyssa Zancanella, Danniel McMicheal and their 5-year-old daughter Azaylee were awarded $951 million by Judge Patrick Corum earlier this month after he found Steward Health Care liable for the botched delivery of the newborn in West Valley City, Utah on Oct. 14, 2019.

    The nurses assigned to Zancanella at Jordan Valley Medical Center — then owned by Steward — were so green they’d barely finished their training, and they gave the mom dangerous doses of a labor-inducing drug while the on-call doctor slept in a nearby room, the family’s lawsuit filed in 2021 alleged.”

    https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/judge-awards-family-nearly-1b-for-botched-delivery-of-baby-at-utah-hospital/

    That’s fucked, but $951 million?

    • Rat on a train

      Round it up to $1T.

    • R C Dean

      For that much money, they could build an 800 bed hospital to take care of their kid for the rest of her life.

      I’ve seen a lot of these cases. The lifetime care is hugely expensive, no doubt. But typically anything over around $8mm, absolute max, isn’t necessary to fund it. Generally, no more than $5mm is ample.

    • R C Dean

      Oh, and there isn’t an insurance company or syndicate in the world that will cover that much. That amount will never be paid, even after the hospital system is broken up and sold off.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I sympathize but that’s ridiculous.

    • Gustave Lytton

      It’s $1B, but after you adjust for in-network contract and so on, actual amount will be $500,000 with $7,000 due to the patient.

      /healthcare billing math

  29. Rat on a train

    I received notice of a financial account in danger of escheatment. If I don’t act my $5 balance will be transferred to the state.

    • Suthenboy

      via text message?
      I am about to be arrested 10 or 20 times.

      • Rat on a train

        Email for an account I haven’t used in many years.

    • Common Tater

      Just do some sort of activity. A phone call counts.

    • Gender Traitor

      The required minimum $5 share (savings) account at the credit union where you got your most recent indirect auto loan? Yeah, one of my coworkers has been sending out those dormant account notices.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    “The signatories willfully weaponized the gravitas of the Intelligence Community to manipulate the political process and undermine our democratic institutions,” Trump wrote in his executive order.

    So much better than overrunning the halls of Congress.

    • juris imprudent

      And stealing the Speaker’s Lectern!

  31. Pope Jimbo

    You know the old saying, “when seconds count, the cops are minutes away”?

    Maybe it needs an update: “but King Walz will be days late”

    Gov. Tim Walz announced on Thursday he had ordered 14 Minnesota State Patrol troopers and six Department of Natural Resources conservation officers to assist in patrols, focusing on schools and places of worship.
     
    “We will work in close partnership with the City of Minneapolis to give residents every reassurance that their families and their children are safe,” Walz said in a statement. “I am grateful to the State Patrol and the Department of Natural Resources for their willingness to help.”
     
    Starting Thursday morning, two pairs of officers will be assigned to each of Minneapolis’ five police precincts and in coordination with the Minneapolis Police Department.
     
    “Our presence is about more than patrols — it’s about letting the people of Minneapolis know they are not alone. Together with our law enforcement partners in Minneapolis, we’re committed to protecting our neighborhoods and supporting the community,” State Patrol Col. Christina Bogojevic said.

    Does King Walz have some secret intel that there are more shooters lurking out there? Or is this the epitome of closing the barn door?

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Horror story

    For too long, our national conversation about civil rights has focused narrowly on voting rights or criminal justice reform. These are vital, but, as the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina reminds us, so too is the infrastructure that sustains daily life. Freedom means more than the right to cast a ballot or the right to equal justice under the law; it means the ability to live in a safe home, to travel to work or school, to drink clean water, to thrive in healthy neighborhoods, and to live with dignity. When these infrastructures are denied or degraded for Black communities, it is not just bad policy — it is a violation of civil rights.

    Twenty years ago, the world watched in horror as Katrina battered the Gulf Coast. The storm left physical devastation in its wake, but what it revealed was even more devastating: the extent to which Black lives and Black communities had been systematically devalued by decades of government neglect. Katrina was not simply a natural disaster; it was a civil rights failure, an infrastructure failure, and a moral failure.

    We remember the haunting images: families stranded on rooftops, bodies floating in the floodwaters, tens of thousands of mostly Black residents crowded into the Superdome without food, water, or medical care. Those images made visible what Black residents of New Orleans had long known — that when public systems fail, it is Black communities that are left unprotected, exposed, and forgotten.

    tl, dr: ACLU says, “Needs more communism.”

    • R C Dean

      You know what the biggest threat to the ability to live in a safe home, to travel to work or school, to thrive in healthy neighborhoods, and to live with dignity is?

      Crime.

      • EvilSheldon

        The government?

    • Common Tater

      Black, Black, Black, Black, Black, Black, Black, Black, Black, Black……

    • Suthenboy

      “Give us money”

      No.

    • Threedoor

      Why does the trash have to take others out with it?

    • UnCivilServant

      Just cook Radium Shrimp.

    • Rat on a train

      The shrimp are evolving a defense against humans.

    • Nephilium

      No one wants to be Shrimp Man, and do you know how hard it is to get a shrimp to bite you?

      • PutridMeat

        Getting a shrimp the smack you in the balls on the other hand, is trivially easy. If the documentary aired yesterday evening is at all accurate anyway.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    The truth is that Katrina was not an aberration. It was the most visible and catastrophic expression of a pattern we continue to see across the country. In Flint, Michigan, and Jackson, Mississippi, residents — again, mostly Black — have been forced to drink contaminated water because of neglected water systems. In rural communities, lack of broadband access has cut children off from education and families off from economic opportunity. In cities, failing public transit continues to isolate Black neighborhoods from jobs and essential services. And as climate change intensifies storms, floods, and heat waves, Black communities are, once again, consistently left exposed, unprotected, and forgotten.

    A unicorn in every pot.

    • R C Dean

      Oddly, both Flint and Jackson have black mayors. Can’t be arsed to research their city councils, but I would be flabbergasted if they weren’t majority black.

      So why are we blaming how poorly run these cities are on white people?

  34. Common Tater

    “Chappell Roan set up her own petting zoo backstage at Summer Sessions to ‘calm ‘ nerves’ while she took to the stage at Edinburgh’s Royal Highland Centre.

    The Pink Pony Club singer, 27, who performed for two nights during the event in Scotland, set up a special enclosure for her artists to enjoy before the show.

    As part of her miniature zoo, Chappell had a pony, two Highland cattle, four Labradors and two goats, according to her supporting Drag Queen act, Shego Sinner.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15046873/Chappell-Roan-petting-zoo-Summer-Sessions-calm-peoples-nerves-takes-stage-Edinburghs-Royal-Highland-Centre.html

    In Scotland, even the cows are ginger.

    • Rat on a train

      a heavy petting zoo?

      • juris imprudent

        Not really, it was just a pony not a clydesdale.

      • EvilSheldon

        Great album, but not as good as Ribbed.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Where do you think you get heavy cream from?

      • Suthenboy

        Apparently a dog and pony show.

      • Threedoor

        The milking farm Jimbo

    • Suthenboy

      You see a movie and think they exaggerate for effect. Then you watch the news and realize they didnt go far enough.

      Think of the royal court of various kings. Think the ruling class in The Hunger Game.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Why does Kamala Harris need Secret Service protection? She is one of our most beloved and revered public servants.

    • UnCivilServant

      Oh come on, you know people are constantly trying to assassinate former vice presidents.

      • juris imprudent

        Well they would if they could remember them!

    • Rat on a train

      To protect her from Trump.

  36. Pope Jimbo

    Here’s a hot take for you: What if the church shooter hadn’t killed himself?

    Keep in mind, we have a new law in Minnesoda that bans life without parole for kids. We just let out an axe murderer. The DA also let two teens accused of murder during a home invasion plea out to a much lesser charge.

    The church shooter might be a bit old to get the full youth treatment, but he’s on the edge. After all – according to the DA – his brain hasn’t fully formed yet, so he can’t be held responsible.

    How would the local pols handle a trial of a trans shooter? Especially if the defense tried to claim he was insane (using trans as proof).

    My prediction is that it would be an absolute shit show.

    • Suthenboy

      I was told yesterday that him killing himself leaves us with no recourse.
      There is no recourse. We can never undo what he did. What he did was save us a lot of money, time and trouble.
      Yes, it would be a shitshow.

      • juris imprudent

        Let us all express our gratitude at the incompetence of the shooter. Over 100 rounds fired and two dead, almost makes you marvel that he managed to shoot himself fatally.

      • Ted S.

        So he was a cop?

    • Fourscore

      He/she identified as a teenager? “Everyone said he was immature, for his age?” They weren’t tall enough to ride on the big boy roller coaster?

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Lots of commemorative sob stories about the “unimagineable” strength and destruction of Katrina. Nobody asks what makes us puny humans think we can control the weather.

    • juris imprudent

      Obama promised that the tides would stop rising!

  38. Common Tater

    “A judge in Utah has ordered that the state legislature redraw Utah’s congressional maps after arguing that GOP state lawmakers gerrymandered the congressional lines in favor of Republicans. This comes as President Donald Trump has pushed for Republican states to redraw their congressional maps, including in Texas. Democrat governors in other states have vowed to redraw their own congressional maps in response.

    Judge Dianna Gibson, who was appointed by Utah Governor Gary Herbert in 2018, serves over the Salt Lake, Summit, and Tooele counties in Utah, and wrote in a 76-page decision that the legislature must pass a “remedial congressional map” before the end of September.”

    https://thepostmillennial.com/utah-judge-demands-state-redistrict-congressional-map-claims-current-borders-favor-gop

    Good-looking judge? Fake news.

    • rhywun

      This shit is never going to end as long as Reps are mini-kings presiding over 3/4 of a million people (and growing) each. The rewards are simply too enormous.

  39. Common Tater

    “Ezequiel Cruz-Rodriguez, of Mexico, had been living with his wife, a Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipient, who operates an active daycare out of their home, according to a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) press release.

    DHS said Cruz-Rodriguez has an extensive criminal history with three prior removals from the United States. He is also a documented member of the Logan Heights gang, a notorious Mexican American street gang that originated in San Diego, California.

    Cruz-Rodriguez’s criminal history includes convictions for sex offenses involving a child under 14, sexual battery, illegal possession of a firearm, driving under the influence (DUI), and robbery, according to ICE.”

    https://thepostmillennial.com/ice-arrests-illegal-alien-child-sex-offender-living-in-san-diego-daycare-center

    California, with all their massive over-regulation, let them operate a daycare center.

    • Suthenboy

      There you go Dems…sic ’em! You have another ‘dad’ to fight evil ICE tooth and nail for. A veritable saint, that one. He is just seeking a better life.

    • Gustave Lytton

      So they’re both illegals. Deport two for the price of one.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Only we can prevent forest fires

    “For nearly 25 years, the Roadless Rule has frustrated land managers and served as a barrier to action — prohibiting road construction, which has limited wildfire suppression and active forest management,” U.S. Forest Service Chief Tom Schultz said in a press statement Wednesday.

    Forest ecologists and fire scientists say it’s not that simple, and they warn that more roads could lead to more wildfires.

    “The law of unintended consequences is a very real law,” said Alexandra Syphard, senior research scientist with the Conservation Biology Institute and the director of science for the Global Wildfire Collective, which aims to connect fire scientists with wildfire managers.

    Syphard, a research ecologist who has been studying wildfire for almost 30 years, said that historically, when it comes to roads and wildfires, a clear pattern has held.

    “One of the most fundamental concepts in fire, especially in terms of fire geography, is that roads are the dominant place where you see ignitions,” Syphard said.

    Spoiler alert- these people couldn’t give a fuck about anything but stopping stuff they don’t like.

    A “forest ecologist” should know fires are part of the natural process just as much as rain or sunshine.

    • Common Tater

      So now they are against roads?

      • Not Adahn

        Which is weird, since that used to be the Libertarian’s jam.

    • Threedoor

      I remember the Clinton era when they send dozens of track hoes out into the national forest and built Kelly humps at the start of hi dress of roads, gated hundreds more and started “wilderness study area”s all over Idaho.

      All that land needs to be auctioned off.

      All of it. And not a single acre to groups like The Nature Conservatory or tribes.