I Finally Made Cherry Bounce!

by | Sep 11, 2025 | Cocktails, Food & Drink, Recipes, Wine | 199 comments

In July of 2023, I attempted to make cherry bounce. That wasn’t very successful and advice from the comments helped me to figure out where I went wrong.

Since I used sweet cherries, I did not get a lot of juice. Then because it was sweet, I didn’t add as much sugar as the recipe called for. With these two factors, I did not create fermentation and wound up with a weak but tasty cherry liqueur.

I decided not to do it again, but in the back of my mind I wanted to make it as good as John Townsend says it is.

June 2024, I preordered 4 quarts of sour cherries and drove the 4 hours to Butler’s Orchard. We stopped for lunch at a Hook and Reel, I had never been to one and we were both very happy with the food, I got the fried oyster basket and there were an amazing amount of oysters for the price. Then we went to H Mart so she could get some Japanese groceries. Our cashier wasn’t rude, but she wasn’t friendly either. After we left, I commented to my wife about it and she said that this close to DC, that’s just how people are.

Once we got to the orchard, I got my cherries and put them in the truck. I ate one and there was a lot more juice than a sweet cherry gave off so I started to see why sour cherries were called for.

We also purchased several frozen pies, some apple cider doughnuts and a couple varieties of jelly. I always spend too much there, so it’s a good thing it is so far away.

My Cherries

I squeezed the juice out with a towel again and got 8 1/2 cups compared to 6 1/2 with the sweet cherries..

This took forever!

My hands and forearm were wore out after this, and that’s not a euphemism.

I once again took a cup and a half of the juice and simmered few chunks of nutmeg, 1 cinnamon stick, and 2 cloves.

Once this cooled down, I strained it back into the rest of the juice. Once I added 1 1/2 cups of sugar and 1 1/2 cups of Laird’s Apple Brandy, it tasted delicious already. I was really looking forward to this batch maturing.

I put it in the closet and the next day, we had bubbles! It was fermenting! I was so excited, it was almost silly.

It was working!

Looking good!

I left it alone in the closet for 8 weeks. As soon as I pulled it from the top shelf by the window, it smelled wrong. I opened it and it was extremely vinegary and there was a mass in the bottom of the jar.

What the what!

I did some research and apparently light kills yeast, and I had it setting by a window in our pantry. The first attempt we had put the jars in a cardboard box, so we had gotten lucky and not realized it.

Frustrated would be an understatement. But I was determined at least once to get the “really, really good” flavor I was promised.

June 2025, we did the exact same thing again, same restaurant, same H Mart, and same order of 4 quarts of sour cherries. Repeated the procedure listed above except this time I put it in the cupboard and wrapped the jar in foil as an extra measure.

8 weeks later I pulled it out and as soon as I removed the paper towel, I could smell the booze. I poured myself a small sample, it was pretty good. I wouldn’t call it great, but definitely tasty.

We poured it into a gallon jar and a little bit into a mason jar and put all of it into the garage fridge.

I finally did it!

That night I got a glass from the mason jar and once again it was good, but not great. I thought maybe I should filter it, so I ran it through a coffee filter. That did it, it went from good to amazing.

The next day I filtered the gallon jug. I used so many filters because there was a lot of sediment in the jar. In the Townsend video, he doesn’t mention filtering it, but he had to to get the clarity you can see in his glass.

A few hours later and I wound up with this:

So pretty

I lost about a 3rd of the juice that was in there, but it was worth it. This now tastes like something you would buy. I am not sure how strong it is, but I feel warmth when I drink it. It is about the same warmth as Alton Brown’s aged eggnog and that is supposed to be around 20%.

I could definitely tell I was drinking after one glass, and have I mentioned that it tastes amazing? Such a clean cherry flavor with just a hint of the cinnamon and spices.

I don’t know if I will do it again because it is expensive and a lot of work, but I do love it, so we will see.

Cheers!

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199 Comments

  1. Sensei

    The refreshing break we need from today’s anniversary and yesterday’s events. Thanks Ron!

    • R.J.

      Excellent work! When the end times come, you will be ready to make your own booze. Wrapping the jar in foil is a good strategy if you don’t have anything opaque. Ex-mechanics might paint the outside of a large jug with Toolkote, just because it is handy…

  2. Nephilium

    If you do another batch, I would suggest an airlock (or at least a balloon with a couple holes punched into it) to go over top of the fermentation vessel. You could also pitch a small sachet of yeast to help it along.

    And instead of filtering, I would suggest using a fining agent such as Super-Kleer. That will precipitate out a lot of the sediment, and then you could either pour carefully into smaller containers, or use a siphon to leave the dregs behind.

    • R.J.

      Airlocks are cool. I have a bunch for wide-mouth mason jars that i got for about $12 on Amazon.

      • Nephilium

        I’ve got dozens, I prefer the three piece, but the S types are just too damn convenient sometimes. I’ve also got some wide mouth mason jar lids that have a one way vent on them (they were sold as part of a home fermentation kit).

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Glad you made it neph, you have the answers. Now where’s kinnath?

      • Nephilium

        They’re not answers, merely suggestions. Instead of filtering, you can also cold crash, which is lowering the temperature of the final product to precipitate out some of the sediment as well. Depending on what level of clarity you would like, you can go for a couple of hours to months.

        There are also kits you can buy that come with concentrated juices and other flavorings.

      • kinnath

        I’m here.

        Just reading and hanging out.

    • ron73440

      I just put a paper towel with a rubber band holding it to the jar mouth.

      The Super Kleer looks promising.

      • Nephilium

        Paper towels will work, but will drop items into the fermenter. Some sanitizer (I’m partial to StarSan) ahead of time can help with avoiding unwanted infections as well. I’ve got several one gallon jugs and screw on tops that fit an airlock into them for small batches.

    • PutridMeat

      Left over from my brewing days I have a bunch of bungs, airlocks, siphons, and 6 gal glass carboys. Free for the taking, though the glass may be impractical. The rest could be easily mailed. Or just go to the nearest home brew shop for $20 and less hassle. Never mind.

      • Nephilium

        I went the PET carboy route after seeing too many horror stories about glass carboys breaking.

      • DEG

        I went the PET carboy route after seeing too many horror stories about glass carboys breaking.

        In my final homebrewing days I was using PET carboys. Very nice.

      • PutridMeat

        glass carboys breaking.

        With several 100s of 5 gal batches under my belt – quite literally, well maybe more above the belt than under – I’ve never had a carboy break. Plenty of blown bungs (no homo) painting my bathroom ceiling (no euphemism) and an exploded bottle or two, but never the carboy.

      • kinnath

        I dropped a glass carboy on a concrete flow once. That was exciting.

  3. The Late P Brooks

    These euphemisms.

  4. Gustave Lytton

    I was going through a box of extra stationary last weekend and found my green book! Last one and was unused except for my name on it. So excited.

    Lost track of time this year and forgot to purchase fresh ume when it was in season. And have about 4L left from previous years that I should drink first, which I’ve put off in favor of harder spirits. It’s quite good, tastes just like Choya except for a slight vodka tinge.

    • Sensei

      From the last thread. The South Koreans were on either wrong visa or played games and came through Mexico. At first I thought their employers kept them in the dark about what visas they needed, but I think the employees knew.

      • Brochettaward

        You know, I get the utilitarian argument that it was best to leave them alone.

        I also grow tired of the US having to apologize unlike the rest of the world for enforcing it’s immigration laws.

      • Nephilium

        Brochettaward:

        I too was confused by the initial headlines saying [paraphrased] “South Korea upset over raid over immigration violations at plant”. Why would the country of South Korea be upset? If they were here illegally, why would we care what South Korea thought about it? Should we be worried that we’re upsetting Mexico by deporting Mexicans?

      • Brochettaward

        Does anyone think South Korea would bat an eye at enforcing their immigration laws against Americans? Or would turn a blind eye? And the American company if it did break the immigration laws would apologize and kowtow regardless of whether they had to or not.

        But we’re supposed to be grateful South Korea invested in manufacturing in America even though it was in their best interests to do so to continue to sell their shit here.

        They can throw a tantrum if they want. South Korea is our client state for fuck’s sake.

      • rhywun

        I also grow tired of the US having to apologize unlike the rest of the world for enforcing it’s immigration laws.

        This. Those who support illegal immigration for their own selfish purposes are free to try to get those laws changed.

        It seems to me that they are NOT free to ignore, subvert, or break those laws without any sort of consequence.

      • Evan from Evansville

        “Does anyone think South Korea would bat an eye at enforcing their immigration laws against Americans?”

        From personal knowledge, I assure you they bat no eyes. I know several folk who had immigration, visa issues. In the private sector, academies would put certain individuals, foreign teachers, on a blacklist if they were ‘troublesome.’ You have dates you’re allowed to stay, and if they catch you after that, you’re in trouble.

        I will admit, of all foreign teachers, businessmen and students, Americans get *by far* the best treatment in SoKo. Travelling abroad, the US passport still carries a lot of weight. Mostly, cuz if the non-American nation does ‘something’ to an American, it would open up a lot of legal shit those nations really don’t want to deal with.

        It’s reassuring.

  5. Sean

    That’s too much effort for me, but congrats to you. 🙂

  6. UnCivilServant

    So, um, how high does cherry bounce?

    • Nephilium

      You’d need an OG and FG measurement, as well as the ABV of the brandy to figure that out.

    • SDF-7

      Depends on if you launch it with a cherry bomb

      • The Other Kevin

        Were your hearts really thumpin?

      • SDF-7

        Hearts? I think you have me confused with our resident Time Lord Sean…

  7. DEG

    I could definitely tell I was drinking after one glass, and have I mentioned that it tastes amazing? Such a clean cherry flavor with just a hint of the cinnamon and spices.

    This sounds delicious.

  8. Brochettaward

    The new person of interest in the Kirk shooting is not a tranny.

    • Not Adahn

      Do they have a name? From the pic they could be a transwoman disguised as a cisman.

    • Not Adahn

      I also cannot wait for Ozy to tell us the guy is wearing a Mossad issued hat.

      • Brochettaward

        You know, a far more likely conspiracy is that someone killed Kirk to distract MAGA from the Epstein stuff. I’m not saying that happened at all, but it would make more sense to me than Israel by a mile.

        I think this is as simple as some left wing nut who hated Kirk for his beliefs.

        I pondered if it could be trans whatever for a moment looking at it, but I think that’s a guy.

      • The Other Kevin

        This morning I had a fleeting thought that this was the work of some kind of “resist” movement and we’re going to see more of this. I hope I’m wrong, and that Bro is right, it’s yet another left wing nut who things we’re in Nazi Germany.

      • Nephilium

        Brochettaward:

        When it first happened, my initial thought was to get the Charlottesville stabbing out of the news. Based on the reaction, this has done the opposite (considering Kirk’s last tweet was about that stabbing).

      • PutridMeat

        When your priors are strongly peaked around Israelis you often get that out of your model.

        JTIAAPOSOFABSASGTLIAOICA.ATFTTBEIP.IHB

        Translation:

        Just Teasing! It’s Always A Possibility Or Some Other Foreign Actor But Seems Awfully Speculative Given The Limited Amount Of Information Currently Available. And The Fact That The Baseline Explanation Is Plausible. It’s Happened Before.

      • SDF-7

        PM… no offense, but I doubt that particular acronym is going to catch on.

        STBTOWIYOT.

        (Sorry to be the one who informs you of this)

      • Not Adahn

        The problem for conspiracy theories here are that:

        1. There are vastly easier and less risky ways to kill Kirk if that’s your goal.

        2. Using a spectacular “sending a message” assassination to make Ts look bad is one thing, but this particular way means you’re ALSO cool with Kirk as collateral damage. Not to mention a false flag bombing/arson has a much lower risk of getting caught.

      • Ozymandias

        Just like NA – I knew you would say something like this, being how you are.
        Let’s add some context to “Ozy the AntiSemite,” now shall we?

        If you’re angry because I dared malign that paragon of virtue, Netanyahu, let’s consider a few facts.

        1 – The notion of Israel being involved in whacking a significant young American political figure is just… so beyond the pale, isn’t it?
        2 – I don’t think it was just some rando – even if it turns out to later be a guy who appears to be a rando… like, say, uh, Lee Harvey Oswald…? Or McVeigh?
        3 – Huh. Speaking of which – we’re now only 60+ years since the US President got whacked, and we just now get to access those records from our own government. And, oh my golly, guess who’s implicated in *that one*? And guess what the alleged issue is over which that President was possibly whacked?
        4 – I guess the USS Liberty never happened, huh?
        5 – Hey, Jar, NA, I don’t know if you saw or heard, but the current POTUS had not one, but TWO assassination attempts against him last year – one just missing his head by a few fucking inches. I mean, I’m pretty sure I was told it was just some radnos, trannies upset over Trump’s bigotry.
        6 – Ah, here we are on 9/11, I mean, I know that totally doesn’t have any weird coincidence involving Netanyahu or US foreign policy in the middle east to it, but huh.

        Anyway, in Trump’s attempted whackings and this one we see similarly (a) shocking lapses of security, (b) pre-event scouting and knowledge of site setup, (c) including dead-spaces for ingress and egress, (d) where speaker would be for a clear shot, and (e) possibly coordination between the shooter and elements of a State actor (our own) day of and prior, as well as own security and LEOs seemingly helping get rid of evidence.

        All of which is to say that I look at these things with maybe a different eye than some, because I happen to have no small amount of professional and personal experience on both sides of this, offense and defense, and with some of the various LEO and State actors who are involved in this game. It could be Ukraine as someone else posited – I wouldn’t be completely surprised if there were involvement were another State actor than Israel. I’ll also say this to the “THIS MAKES NO SENSE FOR ISRAEL” and TOO RISKY FOR ISRAEL crowd – really? What has the US ever done in response to Israel violating Law of War norms or international standards? Have we cut funding? Did we even issue an angry letter?

        Any Epstein tie into any of this??

        Regardless, of all of the above, I promise you this, NA, as a ~5% Ashkenazim, and I’d bet OMWC would back this up even if he’s angry with me, my assessment of Israel as a possible responsible party (ultimately, if not the actual patsy who eventually gets caught), has zero to do w/ some mouth-breathing, inadequacy hatred of THUH JOOOOOOOZZZ!!!! and everything to do with my pattern recognition sense of what I know about assassinations, targeted killings, Israeli policy, TTPs, and current events.

        But thanks for being exactly the asshole I knew you were by calling me a bigot because I said something against Israel.

      • EvilSheldon

        This guy has a decent analysis, lands on the shooter being a zealot rather than a nutjob or a professional hit.

        This is a very very good analysis, and I broadly agree with the conclusions.

        I would add that one good way to distinguish between the Zealot hit and the Pro hit, is that for a Pro, assassination is going to be a team sport. The solitary assassin trope is mostly a pop-culture fiction. If there were a nation-state actor behind Charlie’s assassination, there would have been at the very least, a sniper/security pair.

      • Not Adahn

        If you’re angry because I dared malign that paragon of virtue, Netanyahu, let’s consider a few facts.

        Let’s start with the “fact” that you literally just made up my motivation out of your own actually-in-need-of-medical-intervention head.

        Your writings have become increasingly unhinged and divorced from reality. I don’t know if you’ve been overconsuming stimulants to keep up with the workload you’ve taken on because at one point you were doing actual good work. But this “home in one keyword, throw my entire C-X file at it” thing that you’ve been doing for the past month is a legitimate sign that you need help.

      • trshmnstr

        I’ll also say this to the “THIS MAKES NO SENSE FOR ISRAEL” and TOO RISKY FOR ISRAEL crowd – really? What has the US ever done in response to Israel violating Law of War norms or international standards? Have we cut funding? Did we even issue an angry letter?

        It’s less about the consequences and more about the lack of a coherent reward. A bit of a distraction could be arranged with a small amount of high explosive placed on the hull of an oil tanker. Unless I’m missing something, that would achieve the same goal without testing the limits of their patron state’s patience.

        That’s where I’ve gotten to in my read of it… either the facts on the ground are very different than what is publicly known, or Israel doesn’t make a ton of sense motivation-wise. I am under no illusions about their capability or fortitude to do something like this if it were to actually benefit them, I just don’t see the benefit.

      • Drake

        I have no opinion on who did it. But Kirk did have the same opinion as I do on Oct 7th – the story isn’t believable in the least, it was a set up and excuse to attack and control Gaza.

        Only recently did he say it out loud.
        https://x.com/Aaryouz/status/1966117922285461874

      • (((Jarflax

        4 – I guess the USS Liberty never happened, huh?
        5 – Hey, Jar, NA, I don’t know if you saw or heard, but the current POTUS had not one, but TWO assassination attempts against him last year – one just missing his head by a few fucking inches. I mean, I’m pretty sure I was told it was just some radnos, trannies upset over Trump’s bigotry.
        6 – Ah, here we are on 9/11, I mean, I know that totally doesn’t have any weird coincidence involving Netanyahu or US foreign policy in the middle east to it, but huh.

        4. The USS Liberty attack was an act of war and we would have been fully justified in invading Israel for it. It also happened 58 years ago, so it’s kind of not relevant here.

        5. Your point? You think the Israelis were trying to take out Trump so Kamala could come in and cut off the weapon spigot? Those attacks to my mind are the best evidence that the unhinged left is behind this.

        6. Ok, the fact that it happened close to 9/11 means what? That Israel did it on a symbolic (ish) date to sign their work?

        Israel is a full practitioner of Realpolitik. They are in a war that really only ends with a genocide one way or the other, and know that actual genocide gets them the Rhodesia or South Africa death penalty. I am not a supporter of us funding them, although I am in favor of us selling them arms on favorable terms. None of that makes “Israel killed Charlie Kirk for reasons that sound suspiciously like because they are evil inherently” make sense. Why would they need to distract from the Doha thing? I doubt one American in 10 even knows it happened, and of that 10% most on the right are probably at least vaguely supportive of killing Hamas leaders. I know I am. And the Christian right are their biggest supporters here.

      • Donny Three-Fingers (KJ5GQR)

        I watched it again, with the lead up. No plates or armor. Turbulence from the bullet moves the shirt. A .308 drops about 4 inches at 200 yards with a 100 yard zero.

        So, now we have a competent shooter, who can plan and follow through with everything from initial recon to exfil. Aims for the head, forgets under stress to hold over. Also drops weapon with fingerprints on his way out but still, pretty clean.

        Not a pro, but maybe trained with experience in general operations?

      • Drake

        Unfortunately they learned from the whiff on Trump’s head in Butler. Instead of an AR he got an old hunting rifle with a full powered cartridge and a magnified scope.

        Got the windage right and the elevation wrong by 5 or 6 inches but not enough to matter. (Nobody aims for the neck)

      • Sean

        What are forearm prints?

      • Ozymandias

        And there it is – duck everything else and deny only a trivial point. Now claim I’m unhinged by replying in depth… but ignore that you publicly called me a racist for pointing out Israel might be involved. I mean – quelle horreur! The very gall to suggest that the Israelis would be involved in political assassination!

        Go fuck yourself NA you piece of shit.

      • Not Adahn

        You’re unhinged for replying irrelevant and nonresponsive information to an argument that was never made. You are LITERALLY hallucinating an argument and your responses to it and my responses to your responses, while of course ALWAYS putting yourself as both the brave heroic warrior and put-upon victim.

        We have other posters here that are on the questionable side of mental health, but you really are in trouble.

      • PutridMeat

        tell us the guy is wearing a Mossad issued hat.

        Does not mean (though perhaps I’ve missed more explicit insults in other threads and NA has been a bit abrasive in some responses to you on other topics):

        Ozy the AntiSemite

        called me a racist

        It’s just saying you’re going to speculate it’s an Israeli op, which you did. Personally I think that’s implausible, but a remote possibility, maybe NA thinks it even less likely. Hell maybe he even thinks it’s antisemitic to even bring it up, but I don’t see that here. You guys can have your disagreements about motivation and plausibility – frankly, there’s not a lot to go on yet, so it’s all really tentative at this point. But there’s no reason for either of you to go all ragey on each other on internet forum – you don’t even know each other at a level that would justify this sort of vitriol on either of your parts.

        There, thus ends my smug attempts at peacemaker. You guys do you, I’ll stay out of your conversations even if I, usually mistakenly, think I have something to contribute.

      • Not Adahn

        NA really does think that Ozy has been overconsuming stimulants for too long of a period of time and really is on the verge of a breakdown. He’s too old for schizophrenia to be manifesting, and his writing really has been based on a purely internal to him reality.

    • EvilSheldon

      Is the new person of interest a hardcore leftist?

      • Brochettaward

        Honestly he looks like a strung out meth head who should be out panhandling somewhere for his next fix.

      • EvilSheldon

        Honestly he looks like a strung out meth head who should be out panhandling somewhere for his next fix.

        So Antifa then.

        Hear hoofbeats, expect horses…

      • Suthenboy

        It is antifa. That does not A) rule out other actors…he is probably not a lone wacko or B) antifa is an organization with a lot of funding.
        Finding out who is funding it is not an impossible task. Find them out and bring the shithammer of god down on them.
        No one seems interested in doing that.
        I am also seeing 4 black colleges today on lockdown as I type because of unnamed ‘security threats’. More fake ‘active shooter’ calls I suppose. This is no coincidence.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Anitfa is a lot like the Hell’s Angels, or either the Bloods or the Crips. And I am saying this as I have known members of the two later groups, and know some Anitfa second hand.

        The social cachet of being a member of any of these groups, in certain circles, is greater than the rewards of actual criminal activity that is associated to these groups. In other words, for a lot of people being thought of as a member gains greater social standing in their community. What these members want is to dance close and hold their hand to the flame, to wear the rocker or the colors at the club. The group gains by having a large stock of people to do basic services, such as showing the colors and low level errands, while having a large pool to recruit from.

        People love looking like they are bad ass, like they are on the inside looking out, as opposed to the outside looking in. But very few people want to kill someone over an eighth, curb stomp someone, or take a 2×4 to cops head. They will, however, move a little product, stand and scream at a protest, or swing a chain at someone’s car.

  9. Ozymandias

    Ron – this looks amazing. Nice work – and damn good job on persevering! (and… preserving…?)
    How sweet is it to the taste? I mean, I know that’s hard to characterize and individual tastes, etc… but – roughly speaking – syrupy? Like a hard cider?

    • ron73440

      It isn’t syrupy at all.

      It is a little sweet like a hard cider, kind of tastes like you are drinking a cherry pie.

  10. Suthenboy

    Thank you Ron. Coincidentally my mother gave me a gallon of cherries yesterday. I wasnt sure what I was going to do with them. Now I know.

  11. Ed Wuncler

    “I could definitely tell I was drinking after one glass, and have I mentioned that it tastes amazing? Such a clean cherry flavor with just a hint of the cinnamon and spices.”

    Gotdamn, drinking that sounded like paradise. It seems like a great fall drink by the firepit.

    • Nephilium

      It appears there’s a Michigan distillery that makes a commercial version (and appears to ship to Ohio). I can not speak to it’s quality or taste.

  12. Pine_Tree

    I’ve never heard of cherry bounce before but it looks great. Mrs. Tree does occasional juicing of whatever happens to come through the kitchen, and we’ve made wine and kombucha and liqueurs and stuff, but never this.

    On the released shooter pix: From the posture and hand positions I’m not sure it’s a dude. And for the gun: definitely didn’t expect the word “Mauser” to show up. Though there are of course thousands of them around, it feels a little like hearing that he/she arrived via streetcar or Model T. Scope position looks weird, as many have noticed, but it would totally work that way. So maybe just inexperienced.

    • WTF

      Pretty good shot for someone inexperienced. Maybe just ‘lucky’? Possible, I guess.

      • Pine_Tree

        Maybe. I’ve had some scope mounts that I thought ended up looking odd just because of the combined geometries of the different parts, and where I liked the image. But either way, being odd would still work fine.

        And every average 14-year-old deer hunter could do a decent shot at that range. The surprising thing to me is the sheer openness of being out on top of a building. That would feel super-exposed to me, even if it were a bit higher than the surrounding ones.

      • EvilSheldon

        A 200-yard shot on a stationary human isn’t a gimmie, but it’s not a hard shot for anyone with some rifle shooting experience.

      • Not Adahn

        Meh. I was shooting 6 moa offhand/iron sights/ with a sling at 12. And I absolutely suck at precision shooting.

      • WTF

        it’s not a hard shot for anyone with some rifle shooting experience.
        Right, so not someone who was inexperienced.

      • Pine_Tree

        My last response on the “inexperience” thing – since I thought there were already enough “maybes” in there: If a person has little-to-no experience and gets an old rifle and watches videos and mounts a scope that way for the first time in their life, then part of the wonky mount might be their inexperience. But it works OK. So they go practice some and (just like any kid) figure out that they can hit something at 200 yards pretty easily. So now they have a little experience; are they “inexperienced”? Relative to 0? No. Relative to most shooters? Yep.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Or, they pull dad’s deer rifle out of the closet, and it is already scoped and dialed in.

        I have read that it was a Mauser in .30-06, which is most likely a hunting gun, not surplus.

    • Sean

      Where did you see a pic of the rifle?

      • Pine_Tree

        Several folks bumped in on Xwitter. Vanilla plastic-stocked bolt-action.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s so generic…

      • DEG

        It’s so generic…

        My first thought on hearing it was an imported .30-06 Mauser was either a Mauser 18 or a military surplus South American Mauser.

        Some South American countries that used Mausers converted them, made them, bought them (can’t remember all the variations) in .30-06. Though, there are lots of folks that convert caliber when they sporterize a military surplus gun. But, it doesn’t look right at all for a sporterized military Mauser.

        The back end of the receiver/bolt doesn’t look quite right for a Mauser 18.

        It is a grainy picture so who knows.

      • Pine_Tree

        Let’s see how good of a prognosticator I am: I’m gonna say that the shooter bought it semi-recently in a f2f transaction for cash. It’s obviously old and has been across somebody’s (or a few somebody’s) workbenches. Scope mount was like that when they got it, but it worked fine so they left it alone. But whoever sold it is going to recognize it. And the communication trail for that, though a cash transaction, is going to be part of the bust.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    That’s too much effort for me, but congrats to you.

    I buy Langers tart cherry juice from the grocery store sometimes. I wonder if you could start with that.

    *not that I would- not my thing

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Nope, gotta be unpasteurised or it wont ferment.
      Look for the label then make cheap hootch!

      • UnCivilServant

        You could always add in your own yeast, as long as the sugars are still good.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        You can get champagne yeast from Amazon or any brew supply, very cheap and it works on most fermented things.

      • Nephilium

        There’s enough yeast and bacteria around that once it’s opened, it’ll ferment. Not necessarily the way you want, but it’ll ferment just fine.

        Wild ferments are a risky endeavor though, with a lot of potential for things you wouldn’t want to drink.

      • (((Jarflax

        Witness the stuff in the bottom of your trash cans when a liner tears. It quite possibly contains ethanol.

  14. Yusef drives a Kia

    I cant say enough about Sanitizing everything when you make alcohol. Easy cheap and it pays off, also an airlock for gods sake.

  15. UnCivilServant

    😣

    My hands weren’t needed for the keyboard at work, so I was assembling a model I’ve had for a couple of years now. I didn’t have the instructions so I was just going by experience. It’s a mechanical walker, of which I’ve assembled more than a few. Most of the time, the joint between the leg assembly and the torso is a ball joint for posability. Given the look of the base of the torso, this looked to be true here as well.

    Nope, there’s a flange the torso is supposed to have been assembled around that doesn’t fir through the hole in the socket, because this is the “Easy to build” version which is monopose and non-intuitive to construct.

    I’m just going to cut off the flange and use it as a ball joint anyway.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      You.can mod that easily, do it master builder!

    • UnCivilServant

      I swear these monopose models are harder to build. All these tension-fit joints that have to be lined up exactly to press fit because they think glue is too hard a concept for new gamers.

      • UnCivilServant

        There, Assembled. I have to find a 90mm base to put it on. They’re not as common in my collection but I’m sure I’ve got one around here.

    • SDF-7

      I was expecting something more akin to this.

  16. Mojeaux

    My mother freaking LOVES Cherry Mash. I sneaked one into the hospital for her once, along with her salt. You don’t know what it’s like to have a salt shaker and a bottle of extra-strength Excedrin in your hospital go-bag.

    I have a preliminary job interview in 1/2 hour. Law enforcement transcription. The ad said “3 years LAW ENFORCEMENT transcription REQUIRED (like, you made a living at it),” but I went ahead and uploaded my resume anyway, not expecting anything. Got an email the next day. She asked general (seemingly easy) questions that only an actual transcriptionist would know the answer to. They want 60 audio minutes a day, which is…a lot more than I’m used to, but I need the money. I think this would actually be an interesting job. I love doing emergency medicine, and I’m envious of anybody who finds the rare autopsy job.

    Re Israel. As I have said before, Mormons have a cultural crush on Judaism. I wince a little when Israel’s criticized, but no country/leader is perfect, so I try to be fair. In the end, it DOES NOT MATTER who did it, because the right’s going to pin it on the left’s neverending rhetoric that

    a) you should be ashamed to be white
    b) you should be ashamed to be male
    c) words are violence
    d) we ARE going to force you FEMALES to accept men-in-dresses in your bathrooms, in your sports, in your face, as women, and as your betters in every way
    e) we’re only going to hire trannies and black women for these high-falutin’ roles because DIVERSITY
    f) illegals get your money
    g) free speech is what we deem acceptable
    h) you’re literally Hitlers
    i) and oh, you gay men and lesbians can just fuck right off because we’re done with you

    Did I forget anything?

    So, no. Doesn’t matter who did it. Not one bit.

    • SDF-7

      Good luck on the interview.

      I strongly suspect I couldn’t do the job since I assume graphic crime scene details would be part of it. I expect I’m too squeamish, though I obviously haven’t sought out putting it to the test.

      • UnCivilServant

        My educational background was a perfect fit for computer forensics. Even took electives in computer forensics. Interviewed for a job in computer forensics with the state police. Mid interview it became apparent it was not the career path for me, as most of their computer forensics work was child porn cases.

      • SDF-7

        OMWC bewails being born in the wrong generation…

        (KIDDING, NSA! KIDDING!)

      • UnCivilServant

        Exposure to the real thing damages the mind.

        For years I’d attended a cybersecurity conference held a block away from my office. One year, when Andy was AG, hos lackeys put on a presentation to brag about their recent sting operation against consumers of that material. In said presentation, they included example stills that were inadequitely censored. Had they been anyone else there could have been a case for prosecution of the presenters. It was unneccessary for the purpose of the presentation.

        Seeing it in the wild reinforced my original decision. Plus people who have to work on the cases end up broken in some way.

      • SDF-7

        Oh, I don’t doubt it… hell, I could barely stomach reading about that asshole couple Georgia (Lawrenceville? I forget…) that was pimping out their 2 adopted sons with lots of cameras. No actual content — but sufficient imagination to turn my stomach. The real thing would have me psycho inside of a day, I expect.

    • UnCivilServant

      ad said “3 years LAW ENFORCEMENT transcription REQUIRED (like, you made a living at it),”

      Frustratingly job ads often list “nice to have”s as “required” when the hiring manager never said that they would only accept someone with all the nice to haves.

    • DEG

      Best wishes on the interview.

      • UnCivilServant

        Seconded. I should have said so before going off on a tangent.

    • creech

      J, If you have more money than me then you are rich and need to pay more taxes.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Luck Mojo, you are good and can do this!

    • ron73440

      Hope the interview goes well.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Lots of things don’t make sense to me. That doesn’t mean they won’t makes sense to anybody.

    • B.P.

      It’s just a sweet, fruity, booze-infused drink. Don’t read too much into it.

  18. SDF-7

    I think I’m getting inured to the asshole-ness of the replies of folks who think Kirk deserved it… reading this all I could think was “For a ‘satirical newspaper’… my big complaint would be that y’all just aren’t funny. Do better.”

    I suppose “comedy” is known to push the boundaries of timing, and that’s fair… but you have to not suck at it.

    • rhywun

      The left can’t meme vol. MCMLXIX

    • SDF-7

      “Honey Badger is like… go ahead and kick me, you big fuck… I’ll just come right back. I take what I want!”

      That said…seemed like a small elephant to me.

    • Suthenboy

      That’s an AI video.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    we ARE going to force you FEMALES to accept men-in-dresses in your bathrooms

    There is a new ruling in favor of some “trans boy” in South Carolina allowing it to use the genderdelusion bathroom of its choice.

    Blah blah blah.

    Rip the fucking signs off the doors. I couldn’t tell you how many times I went into the boys’ room in high school to see girls smoking cigarettes with the gang. BFD.

    When I used to hang out at McSorley’s Old Ale House in lower Manhattan in the late ’70s- early ’80s, there was one bathroom with a sign on the door which read “toilet” because it was men-only for the first 150 years or so. Men and women used it, frequently at the same time. Nobody seemed to suffer any discernible harm.

    • Not Adahn

      Ally McBeal had unisex toilets back in the late 80s (early 90s?). Unfortunately it turns out that meeting Portia de Rossi in a bathroom wouldn’t do me much good.

    • PutridMeat

      Men and women used it, frequently at the same time.

      Sure men and women can share a bathroom space under certain conditions perfectly safely. Personally I think the problem arises when mentally ill men are using a women’s bathroom. They aren’t using it for convenience, nor hanging out with guys smoking. As usual, situations that are handled perfectly fine in an organic fashion by individuals are being weaponized to foment social disorder and pander to a mental disorder.

    • Mojeaux

      I’ve been known to hit the men’s loo if I can’t hold it anymore. Peeing my pants is a fate far worse than offending people.

    • EvilSheldon

      Is McSorley’s still around?

      • Timeloose

        Still open and still just serving light or dark, Onions, cheddar, mustard, and saltines.

  20. kinnath

    Congrats on your 1st successful brew Ron.

  21. Drake

    The shooter’s whereabouts…

    When I first heard about a private jet taking off nearby and turning off the transponder, I thought a professional job and they ditched the rifle in a lake.

    Now I wonder if they ditched a patsy in a lake from 10,000 feet.
    https://x.com/HustleBitch_/status/1966157392673972547

    • Not Adahn

      I’m still looking for a plausible “why.” Killing Kirk in a low-risk way would have been trivially easy for any kind of state actor.

      • creech

        If Hillary can make it look like a suicide, then….

      • SDF-7

        I’m firmly in the 48-hour zone. We don’t know shit — and it seems completely pointless to speculate on what little dribbles out to me.

        As long as this doesn’t get “disappeared” like Vegas (which I don’t think it will), I can wait for some actual confirmed details.

      • Not Adahn

        If this vanishes, then I’ll have to seriously update my understanding of the world. Then it will be plausible that Drumph is a puppet.

      • Drake

        The only Trump campaign to rally CNN covered live last year was in Butler. They wanted to show his head getting blown off live in hd.

        Watching Kirk take a .30 cal neck shot traumatized and radicalized a lot of people. Probably demoralized some.

        If it isn’t a random antifa nut, it’s somebody who profits from that division and chaos

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah. My point is that the spectacle of the murder means you need to come up with a reason a state would benefit a) from this spectacle b) sufficiently enough to make the risk worth it.

        I completely believe that the FBI will be as ineffective at catching this persyn as they were with Luigi and Dzokar, or the Chinese spy ballon. But those three did get caught by civilians.

    • kinnath

      google ai says:

      ADS-B transmissions can drop out during a flight due to issues with the aircraft’s onboard equipment, signal interference, or environmental factors like GPS signal availability and terrain. On the aircraft, failures can stem from GPS unavailability or problems with the transponder or antenna. For receivers on the ground or in other aircraft, signal issues include interference, the multipath effect, or signal blockage by the aircraft’s own structure or terrain.
      Aircraft-Side Issues
      GPS Failure:
      ADS-B relies on a GPS signal to determine position. If the GPS signal is unavailable, the ADS-B system won’t be able to generate the message, leading to a transmission dropout.
      Onboard Equipment Malfunction:
      Problems with the transponder, antenna, or other components of the ADS-B system can prevent messages from being sent.

      • Sean

        Of course Google would say that, as they are in on it!

      • Not Adahn

        That’s not even a conspiracy theory.

      • kinnath

        The post doesn’t say anything about standard TCAS dropping out. Just ADS-B. And the posted note says that ADS-B tracking was disabled for private monitoring, not that it stopped reporting position to air traffic control.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Lol, this is laughable.

      • kinnath

        yes

    • EvilSheldon

      When I first heard about a private jet taking off nearby and turning off the transponder,…

      What an excellent way to make everyone look directly at you. No. If this was a pro nit there wouldn’t be anything to look at.

  22. Not Adahn

    Ok, when are these “cultural statements” going to make their way into the public realm?

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Of course Google would say that, as they are in on it!

    Skynet sent the shooter. The plane dropped off the radar when it returned to the future.

    • SDF-7

      The anti-gravity drive of the aliens phased the plane through different dimensions to return the shooter to their native plane of existence… Kirk was about to father the progenitor of Earth’s greatest starship captain that would take down the alien trans-dimensional empire in the future… they couldn’t have that!

    • J. Frank Parnell

      Mossad vaporized the plane with their space laser to cover their tracks.

  24. Wood Chipped Wednesday

    Not sure the factuality of this (haven’t done too much research), but i saw a post that said that the bullets the Kirk shooter was using has a bunch of tranny shit engraved on the sides of the casings.

    • Nephilium

      That would be the “cultural statements” that Not Adahn mentions above. Stay safe on campus, I do not expect it to be a quiet weekend in such places.

      • Not Adahn

        Ayup. Which makes me wonder if CNN has actually seen the statements in question or if they’re just refusing to report what was in the other information as it was stated.

  25. kinnath

    kinnath’s crazy conspiracy theory . . . . .

    The left is losing at SCOTUS and will continue to lose at SCOTUS.

    CA’s gerrymandering won’t survive and the Elephants will gain seats in the House.

    The left is now going after the pipeline that is feeding young men into the GOP sphere of influence.

    The shooter was antifa. This is just the first shot. There will be more in short order.

    • The Other Kevin

      Not at all crazy. The left is used to getting what they want. They lost the election, now they are getting pried out of they system and they’ve lost a lot of their back-door funding. They know they can’t win in fair elections, and their methods of cheating are drying up, so they’re desperate.

      They couldn’t win in the current system, they couldn’t cheat in the current system, so now it’s time to burn the system down.

      • B.P.

        During the elections, they could try advancing a policy platform not filled with crazy ideas.

        Yeah, I know…

    • rhywun

      That is more believable than any state actor.

      • kinnath

        Soros.

        It’s always Soros.

  26. Unreconstructed

    RE: Kirk – I’ve seen multiple left leaning social media posts claiming Kirk supported violence against the QUILTBAG sorts, or that he was otherwise racist, sexist, etc. However, I have yet to see any direct quotes or video of such stances. If the shooter was indeed a zealot, it seems likely, perhaps even probable, that such inflammatory (and false?) rhetoric is likely to have helped motivate them.

    • (((Jarflax

      Failure to agree with their delusional positions is literal violence, so while an ordinary observer would see Charlie Kirk as consistently arguing against violence and in favor of open debate and civil discourse about contentious issues, they see violence.

      I started to draft this as a joke, but it’s unfortunately completely accurate and not exaggerated.

  27. Pope Jimbo

    Sounds like we might have a taste off between mead and cherry bounce at this year’s HH?

    • kinnath

      I will have mead.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I still have the fireweed, saving it for special occasions

    • ron73440

      I am flying in, so I won’t be bringing any with me.

      It’s almost gone anyway, if I do do it again, it will be a double batch.

      • Nephilium

        There are ways to transport it in your checked luggage.

        (I’ve used these quite a bit with good results).

  28. The Late P Brooks

    It’s one thing when random nobodies get bumped off

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) called the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk “horrific” and urged Congress to take action on gun violence legislation.

    “This is horrific. This is awful, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk risks an uncorking of political chaos,” the New York Democrat told reporters outside the Capitol on Wednesday.

    “Are we going to do something, or are we going to argue over rhetoric? That is my question about this,” she added. “We have to pass gun safety legislation and stop this.”

    It’s horrific to think Important People could be targets. Her question answers itself.

    • SDF-7

      Horrific, my ass — just an excuse to disarm the people… same goal as always.

      Screw off, AOC.

      • SDF-7

        To be clear — obviously I don’t mean the assassination isn’t horrific. I’m saying I don’t think AOC believes that. I really should pause, re-read and think about editing posts before I hit submit, I know.

      • The Other Kevin

        Yep. Not letting a crisis go to waste. Let’s take away the guns from people on the right because of the actions of the left.

    • Drake

      Beat me to it. So now we have to ban old hunting rifles.

      • Not Adahn

        You mean sniper rifles! No civilian needs one of those!

    • Suthenboy

      Me to wife: “Mao said if the public will disarm that is fine, if they wont he would do it for them.”
      Wife to me: “They didnt have guns like we do”

      After the Bolsheviks took the cities Lenin sent gangs of thugs out to the smaller towns to randomly hang a few people then suggest efveryone got on board.
      Wife: “They didnt have guns either”
      Me: “No, they didnt but you see why the left here, once again, wants to disarm the public.”

      Go fuck yourself Sandy. You cant have my guns.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    RE: Kirk – I’ve seen multiple left leaning social media posts claiming Kirk supported violence against the QUILTBAG sorts, or that he was otherwise racist, sexist, etc.

    I read one of those. Charlie Kirk called for homos to be stoned to death. It shouldn’t be too hard to find proof of that.

    Murder is bad, but some people are just asking for it.

    • Unreconstructed

      Exactly – it’s always those big 2 color GIF images with blanket statements and no attributions. How anybody allows such useless internet crap to affect, much less form, their opinion of things is beyond me.

      • Mad Scientist

        People believe what they want to believe. Corroborating facts are helpful, but completely unnecessary.

    • kinnath

      no

      Lambic is a sour ale create with spontaneous fermentation. So, you start with grain, make wort, ferment beer, and age in barrels. At some later point, the beer may be racked onto cherries to start a fresh fermentation.

      Chery bounce is fermented cherry juice. So closer to a cherry wine.

    • Nephilium

      No. A lambic is going to be a wild fermentation, generally inoculated via a coolship (big wooden dugout that the wort goes through). Technically, the Lindemans lambics aren’t lambics either. It was enough of a point of contention that one of the big boys in the lambic world (Cantillon) pulled out of the lambic association when Lindemans was let in.

      • Timeloose

        Thank you both.

        I might have missed the yeast addition in the post, but that’s why I thought it was natural fermentation. I was likening the process to my pepper and carrot ferments.

      • ron73440

        I didn’t add any yeast, it was wild fermentation.

      • Nephilium

        Timeloose:

        No yeast added, so it was the natural yeast on the fruit skins that kicked off the ferment (or other yeast/bacteria). But using juices and alcohol would make this closer (as Kinnath said) to a wine.

        Good thought on that, as the lambic process is closer to the pepper and carrot ferments. But a traditional lambic is usually a blend of wheat and barley mash, with aged hops as a balancer. The taste will vary depending on the natural ecosystem, so certain regions are known for it (similar to San Francisco sourdough being different).

      • Timeloose

        I’m a big fan of true Lambic beers. Cantillon and others were near the top of my list. Low ABV but great tasting and unique.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I still have the fireweed, saving it for special occasions

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        @kinnath

    • Sean

      I’m surprised it took them this long to start.

      • R.J.

        They started yesterday.

    • Sensei

      “High powered” Title since changed.

      ABC News
      High-powered rifle recovered amid manhunt for Charlie Kirk’s killer, FBI says
      5 hours ago
      By Megan Forrester, Meredith Deliso & David Brennan

      • UnCivilServant

        High powered would be a 20mm Anti-tank rifle.

      • Not Adahn

        I am completely willing to call .30-06 “high powered.”

      • Sensei

        I would too, but probably more than 50% of the popular rifle calibers are “high powered”. I wouldn’t exactly call it a unique property of .30-06.

      • Not Adahn

        I saw some sloppy copy/paste and/or AI generated articles that omitted the “bolt” part and referred to a “high powered action rifle.”

      • (((Jarflax

        It’s scare words designed to make people who know nothing about arms think the weapon is some extraordinary thing rather than a bog standard hunting rifle you could find the equivalent to in probably 50 million houses in this country.

    • Ed Wuncler

      And it’s so nakedly cynical. She doesn’t give a shit about Kirk getting murdered and probably think he had it coming. All she wants to do is stand on her soapbox and rant about gun control to prove some stupid point and attempt to embarrass her opponents.

    • EvilSheldon

      AOC: “We want to disarm our victims!”

      Not the smoothest move on her part.

    • creech

      If we didn’t have power hungry lunatic pols like you,Sandy, then people like Kirk could be home enjoying family and life instead of combatting the likes of you who poison young minds with your commie claptrap

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Democrats have renewed calls to pass gun reform legislation. After news of Kirk’s shooting broke, but before the 31-year-old was pronounced dead, Ocasio-Cortez similarly called for the end of “the scourge of gun violence and political violence.”

    “The shooting of Charlie Kirk is the latest incident of this chaos and it must stop,” she continued in her post on the social platform X. “We cannot go down this road. There is no place for it in America and we wish for his recovery.”

    Kirk, a prominent gun rights advocate and outspoken surrogate for the Trump administration who was credited with helping President Trump gin up support among young voters last year, died Wednesday shortly after being transported to an area hospital in Utah.

    This terrible tragedy could never have happened in an enlightened state like New York or California where they don’t pander to the gun nuts.

    Kirk advocated for gun rights. Verdict: suicide.

  31. R.J.

    I got my pins from Richard, thank you Richard! I shall send you something in return by end of month. Not sure what yet.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Yes,! They are nice pins, could we send one to ToG?
      Same addy

    • Sean

      I think he likes pennies.

      😉

      • R.J.

        I have many unusual pennies.

    • creech

      God withdraws Charlie from the fight to Satan’s cheers? Sorry, I don’t find that classy at all.

  32. ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

    So far, and I apologize if this has already come up, but the talking point is now “anyone who didn’t have the same reaction about the Minnesota shooting by a Republican is just as bad and is no better than the people crowing about the death online now.” Or some such.

    I have seen some version of this come up a couple times already today, and it seems to be the deflection talking point.

    • Ed Wuncler

      There’s no sense of introspection or accountability among the Left.

      • Nephilium

        History began today. There is no past.

    • Pine_Tree

      Yeah I was about to post something similar. And they’re all baldly asserting that killer was a Trumper MAGA-type when (iirc) it was some Walz-connected guy.

    • EvilSheldon

      As I’ve said before, elected politicians are legitimate targets under every doctrine of warfare I’m aware of.

      Charlie wasn’t an elected official. He was not killed for what he was doing, he was killed for what he was saying. At least in my mind, this is a difference the size of Mount fucking Everest.

      • kinnath

        Kirk delivered young men to the polls and help to swing the last election.

        That’s far more dangerous to the left.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    What defines high power? Muzzle velocity? Projectile mas?

    *I know

    • Sean

      Anything not a .22LR

      • (((Jarflax

        .22LR is the long rifle variant! That sounds high power to me!

  34. Evan from Evansville

    “Authorities say student who had been radicalized fired revolver at Colorado school, wounding 2”

    Details on what the “radicalization” was to be released later. I shouldn’t, but I’m human: I assume either a crazy leftist, or a kid pissed about the Left’s reaction to Kirk, heavily mixed with a mentally ill person to begin with.