Unwatched S02 E03 – The Outlaw

by | Feb 15, 2026 | Media, Opinion, Reviews | 115 comments

Genre – Western
Movie Total Runtime – 1 Hours 55 Minutes
Spoilers – Yes

Bought from a thrift store for $0.25 (one of four on a $1 DVD box set), this black and white western produced by Howard Hughes of Spruce Goose and Hotel Hermit fame is completely unknown to me. None of the cast members in the opening credits ring a bell, but apparently Hughes personally directed the film.

We start with a stagecoach arriving in Lincoln New Mexico, with a particular focus on the sign stating that the sheriff is Pat Garrett. The first line of dialog announces that Doc Holiday was on that stagecoach. I hate when historical fiction uses real people as characters. Even when inspired by their exploits, it just feels icky to put them in. Sheriff Pat goes to meet Doc, and apparently they’re friends. Doc is looking for his horse, which has apparently been stolen. He bums some cash off Sheriff Pat and offers to let him join in hunting the horse thief. Apparently being sheriff was news to Doc.

Doc confronts the current possessor of the horse, who we find out is Billy the Kid. Ol’ Will claims to have bought the horse and doesn’t want to let Doc reclaim it. Ol’ Will rides off with the horse. Sheriff Pat and Doc ambush Ol’ Will at the stables and arrest him. Ol’ Will goads Doc over them tag-teaming him, and Doc returns his revolvers. Sheriff Pat orders them both out of town by sundown. Doc and Ol’Will socialize for a bit. Ol’Will then catches Doc trying to steal the horse back. After Doc leaves, someone takes a potshot at Ol’Will and misses. Under cover of day for night, Ol’Will sneaks around to ambush the shooter. They wrestle in the dark and it turns out to be a woman who has not been introduced. Miss MacDonald was apparently there to avenge the death of her brother. The rest of the fight scene is in complete shadow.

The next day, Doc and Ol’Will continue to socialize, but some random shows up claiming to have a grudge on Sheriff Pat. He wants to rope Ol’Will into the plan, but it’s a ruse to try to get the drop on Will. Rando is gunned down. Doc advises Ol’Will to get out of town as proving self defense will be difficult. Ol’Will decides to stick around. The posse rolls into the saloon before the scene goes on much longer. After a standoff, Doc and Ol’Will try to walk out of the saloon rather than let Sheriff Pat take Will into custody. Sheriff Pat shoots Ol’Will in the gut, Doc shoots the rifle from Sheriff Pat’s grip then shoots two of the posse. In their flight from the town, Ol’Will falls out of the saddle.

The Posse musters reinforcements as Doc brings Ol’Will to the cabin of Miss MacDonald. She is not best pleased at this development. Doc gives a bunch of instructions on his way out. Unfortunately, Miss MacDonald follows them instead of ridding us of Ol’Will. A posse member stops in but Miss MacDonald gets rid of him. She then cooks her rooster for the crime of being annoying. I do not understand the character of Miss MacDonald. I’m trying to theorize whether I’m supposed to think she’s doing this out of loyalty to Doc greater to loyalty to her slain kin. Or if she’s falling for Ol’Will, despite no indicator and him being quite comatose.

I’m rooting for Sheriff Pat.

The movie spends too much time with the rehabilitation of Ol’Will and no updates on what’s happening outside. I really want to know why Miss MacDonald stopped trying to kill Will with no on-screen explanation.

We catch up to the Posse and Doc, having crossed the county line and left Sheriff Pat’s jurisdiction. Doc starts shooting the Posse. Really, I don’t see any reason to like any of the main characters. While my mind is on it the soundtrack is downright aggressive, as if there must never be a moment free from intrusive noise, whether that noise is appropriate or not. The woodwind section is particularly insistent on being noticed. Amidst this overbearing orchestral score, we di find that Miss MacDonald is apparently falling for Ol’Will.

Between the music and the characters, I’m getting annoyed at this movie. I’ve almost reached the halfway mark. Doc returns to Miss MacDonald’s house. The actress for Miss MacDonald is very adept at the sneer, as she is not much pleased at Doc’s arrival while in a compromising position with Ol’Will. Miss MacDonald claims to be married to Will “But please don’t tell him.” I’m still unclear how. Maybe Miss MacDonald doesn’t believe in extramarital and summoned a priest off-screen. But under no circumstance would a marriage be valid when one person is insensate.

Doc and Ol’Will quibble over horses and Miss MacDonald and who has claim on either. Ol’Will offers to let Doc have one or the other. Given the recent infidelity of Miss MacDonald, Doc chooses the horse, causing Ol’Will to protest. Miss MacDonald is most displeased that she was the less preferrable choice.

As Ol’Will bums some cash off Doc, it’s clear Howard needed two people he didn’t have on this film – a good script doctor, and an agressive editor. His ego almost certainly wouldn’t let him realize that he’s made a meandering yarn with a plodding pace that feels like it is utterly directionless. The dialog doesn’t flow naturally, and characters are inconsistent within the same scene. It runs for two hours, and half way through I still have no clue where it’s going. At first I had granted some grace for “differences in filmmaking styles” between when it was made and now. But no, it’s just not well made.

Doc and Ol’Will leave together for [Other Town]. I did some research because the movie was so boring. [Other Town] is apparently significant in the history between the real Sheriff Pat and Ol’Will. Real Doc was not involved in that however. So I can’t even crib off of history for plot points.

In movie, Doc and Ol’Will find that their canteens are filled with sand, having been filled with such by Miss MacDonald. Ol’Will abandons Doc in the middle of the night, and Sheriff Pat finds Doc after dawn, arresting him and putting him in cuffs. Ol’Will returns to Miss MacDonald’s place and confronts her. She’s next found tied up in a situation that would eventually prove fatal if she had not been cut down by Sheriff Pat. Sheriff Pat decides that Ol’Will will probably return to cut her down and decides to set up an ambush. When Ol’Will gets caught in the trap, he is annoyed that the woman he left strung up by the wrists didn’t tip him off.

At a watering hole, Doc tries and fails to get Sheriff Pat’s gun, then Miss MacDonald tries and fails to drown Ol’Will. On the way back to Lincoln, we get interrupted by smoke signals. With the small cast, I wasn’t expecting Indians, but I probably should have. With limited options, Sheriff Pat makes the mistake of unchaining the criminals. At least he doesn’t arm them. The group rides for [Other Town] since it’s away from the Indians. Unfortunately, another band was in front and has burned a cabin at the spot where the bands are converging.

The four ride away from the Indians and for some reason lasso logs to drag out a dust trail. This somehow causes enough confusion to trip up the lead Indians, who then mill around in confusion. Once they reach a homestead to hole up for the night, Sheriff Pat sends a note on ahead to [Other Town]’s law. Due to the exigencies around the possible Indian attack, the outlaws are rearmed and not inclined to return their weapons. Doc states his intent to leave, but Ol’Will declines to let him take the horse. He and Doc square off ready to shoot each other. Ol’Will doesn’t draw, so Doc stops mid-draw and they argue until Doc shoots Ol’Will across the back of the hand and notches both ears. Ol’Will still doesn’t draw. They spill sentimental drivel as the score gets overblown.

Sheriff Pat rants at them about Doc’s treatment of him since Ol’Will’s arrival. Doc and Sheriff Pat draw on each other, but Doc doesn’t fire. Sheriff Pat shoots him. Doc dies and gets a shallow grave.

This is a serious departure from history. Doc outlived Ol’Will by six years and died from disease. Especially when Sheriff Pat figures they can use the shallow grave to fake Ol’Will’s death. The plan involves having to show off Ol’Will’s guns. Sheriff Pat gives an impassioned speech about starting over, and eventually convinces Ol’Will to agree to the plan. It was intended as a ruse as Sheriff Pat had taken the firing pins out of Doc’s guns, but they got all mixed up, and Ol’Will ended up with a live one. Chaining Sheriff Pat to a pillar, Ol’Will rides off with Miss MacDonald, but leaves his guns behind so the faked death plan can go ahead anyway.

Don’t bother looking for this movie. It’s too long, too meandering, too pointless, and none of the characters are likable.

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UnCivilServant

UnCivilServant

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115 Comments

  1. UnCivilServant

    This is supposed to be the Post Turkey Day Special. I left that in the title for a reason – why was it chenged?

    • Fourscore

      They have their reasons at Headquarters. Ours is not to question why.

      • UnCivilServant

        But it’s still after Turkey Day.

      • Threedoor

        The royal They

        Not the modern they

  2. Gender Traitor

    The actress for Miss MacDonald is very adept at the sneer

    Like this?

    I’ve never seen the movie. My dad had a bunch of coffee table books about “classic” movies. She was…featured prominently.

    • UnCivilServant

      That’s not even her best sneer in the movie.

    • Fourscore

      That was every kid’s pre- Farah Faucett image. I was a little on the young side but I’m guessing my oldest brother was figuring out how to get a copy to share or not to share with his buddies.

      • UnCivilServant

        I can see that being the case.

        I have nothing to say against the woman herself – the movie, however, was a stinker. Howard really needed somebody who could tell him “No”.

    • Evan from Evansville

      That’s either the best or worst look one could get after an “I was in the pool!” moment. I’m not sure why, but that sneer’s pulling me to the former. Would be sneered. (Ah, yes. Jane. That’d be why.)

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      “Mean, moody, and magnificent!”

      HH also designed a cantilevered bra for her.

  3. Threedoor

    I think I have seen this one.

  4. Aloysious

    Speaking of westerns that I would recommend, Old Henry starring Tim Blake Nelson.

    A modern movie without ‘the message’.

    The protagonist is a historical figure (no spoilers), but you don’t find out which one, until the end. Maybe you’ll even be surprised at the reveal.

    Personally, I put it in the same category as Outlaw Jose Wales, Pale Rider, or 3:10 to Yuma.

    • Ted S.

      Most of the 70s westerns are overrated.

      Glenn Ford and Van Heflin in 3:10 to Yuma, however, are excellent.

      • Gustave Lytton

        You can just go straight to most of 70’s movies were overrated.

      • kinnath

        Most notably . . . . Star Wars . . . .

        let the flame war begin

      • Rat on a train

        Star Trek: The Motion Picture

      • Ted S.

        Walter Matthau made a lot of good movies in the 1970s, and The Bad News Bears is not near the top of that list.

      • rhywun

        Walter Matthau made a lot of good movies in the 1970s

        +1 2 3

      • Aloysious

        Overrated?

        I was going to say anything with John Wayne in it, but I really liked Big Jake, so I’m wrong.

      • kinnath

        You can just go straight to most of 70’s movies were overrated.

        https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000019899/

        Top 100 movies of the 70s per IMDB. I’ve seen at least 80 to 85 of these movies. There isn’t anything that I remember from this list that wasn’t a notable movie.

        And many, many of them are truly excellent.

        I will acknowledge Sturgeon’s law (“ninety percent of everything is crap”), but the 70s were a gold mine compared the horseshit being produced today.

      • Nephilium

        kinnath:

        As a counterpoint, going through that list, I’ve seen less than 20 of them. Outside of those, there’s only about a dozen that I would say anyone in my age group would be surprised that I hadn’t seen.

      • kinnath

        I’m trying to remember when movies stopped being “an event” for families.

        The network would compete with each other to get the best movies. Then they would be edited all to hell to run on prime time TV. Saturday nights were kids sitting on the floor with a huge batch of freshly popped popcorn and a glass of pop or soda or whatever you called. That was the only time we got pop.

        The 70s were when I became and adult and my girlfriend/wife would see a movie pretty much every weekend.

        Cable started being big in the 80s and HBO/Showtime ran the best movies unedited. It was a blessing.

        The 90s brought VCRs and we would rent every new release movie that hit the store.

        Then somewhere in the 2000s or 2010s, there weren’t enough movies worth seeing to bother.

        And all through my youth, old movies would run as fillers during the daytime hours. God knows how many of those old movies I watched.

        But it doesn’t surprise that people that grew up with cable and video games would have cared much about watching old movies from before their time.

      • kinnath

        At some point, movies were eclipsed by the golden era of cable TV with HBO and Showtime running original content that beat the shit out of movies in telling rich, complex stories.

      • Threedoor

        Kinnath. I remember going to the movies and waiting in line almost an entire show time for the next one to start.

        ET, The Goonies, back to the Future, Ghostbusters, Labyrinth, Return of the Jedi, Terminator 2, rereleases of Disney movies, The Seven Dwarves, Fox and the Hound, Sleeping beauty… heck we even went to the driving for such classics as The Blue Lagoon.

      • Threedoor

        Late 90s
        The X Files dropped and it was good. We never had cable but we had a VCR and my sister worked at an independent so we got the new releases.
        I was too poor to catch the movies and didn’t have anyone to go with.

      • The Hyperbole

        Any list of “Best Movies of the 70’s” that doesn’t have a single Mel Brooks movie on it was compiled by maroons.

      • Chipping Pioneer

        This list is wrong. It does not include Zardoz.

      • slumbrew

        This is some sort of hell-world, where I find myself agreeing with The Hype:

        “Blazing Saddles”, February, 1974
        “Young Frankenstein”, December, 1974

        They don’t beat out “Earthquake”? “Kingdom Of The Spiders”?

        GTFO.

      • Nephilium

        kinnath:

        I don’t think the concept of going to movies really died until 2020. Looking over the IMDB list of top movies of 1990s I saw less than half of them.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Wowza. First one I’ve fully seen is the glibtastic Jaws at #15. (I’ve seen about all the segments of Godfather I and II, but I’ve never sat down and *actually* watched ’em.) Only that and Clockwork Orange and Empire Strikes Back in the Top 20. The next I’ve actually seen is All the Prez’ Men at 52.

        Fond memories of movies in the 90s. The nearest turned into a $2 theater, but that was after I moved to Bloomington, so only rarely enjoyed.

        Bro had all the Simpsons taped on VHS, with about 15-20 eps per tape. We had about 20 of ’em filled up. That was afternoon entertainment, and he was organized enough to write down the times so we could fast forward to the exact spot for any EP. For those first eight seasons, we’ve got that shit memorized.

        Also mentioned previously, Mom took me to see Willow in the theaters when I was 2yo, max. Still one of my fave films, she quickly learned that was a mistake, cuz I was lovin’ the everlovin’ *shit* outta that flick. She had to take me out of the theater cuz I was such a ruckus.

        To be fair! If you don’t get a ruckus outta Willow, that’s your fault, cuz that film is a helluva good time, delivered exceptionally well.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I stand by my answer. Three out of the top twenty are watchable.

      • rhywun

        Three out of the top twenty are watchable.

        I’ve seen maybe half from beginning to end and of those are only 1 or 2 that I have any desire to do so again. Plus 1 thanks to R.J. on a recent Thursday evening.

      • kinnath

        I stand by my answer. Three out of the top twenty are watchable.

        You have my sympathies.

      • Evan from Evansville

        LA Confidential at #11 is my favorite drama, with Clue, unlisted, winning (my chuckles) as my Fave Film. The rankings are all fucked cuz people get to vote. Forrest Gump in the top 10? One ahead of Saving Private Ryan? Uh huh. Seen 8 of the top 10, (Not the however the fuck-ranked #2 American Beauty, and perhaps oddly, Braveheart.)

        Seen 8/10 from 11-20. Maybe 40-50% of the 100. Titanic is in that list. So there. (Impressive to *make,* but big meh of a ‘story.’)

  5. Ted S.

    I’m surprised you hadn’t heard of Jane Russell.

    Thomas Mitchell won an Oscar for the original “Stagecoach”, and Walter Huston won for “Treasure of the Sierra Madre”.

    • UnCivilServant

      Do I strike you as somebody versed in movie history or celebrity culture?

      • UnCivilServant

        What exactly are you trying to say?

        No exageration, over the years I have seen literally thousands of women in advertisements. Remembering one decades after the fact – if I even say that ad – is unlikely.

    • rhywun

      Even I am familiar with her assets.

  6. Evan from Evansville

    Oooh! First thoughts a graf in: Good old ‘find.’ Howard Hughes, damn. Many things about that man, and I’d say all of them are hyper-interesting.
    Possible controversial thought round here? The Aviator is a very underrated flick. It has been a while for me, but I thought it was really well done. Especially since I’m looking back over a decade, I worryingly remember di Caprio doing a good (enough) job.

    • UnCivilServant

      I don’t think I saw that one.

      • Threedoor

        It’s pretty good.

  7. SarumanTheWoefullyIgnorant

    As usual enjoyed your rant.

    Agree regarding historical characters, especially when used ahistorically.

    At most they should be incidental characters, better yet if they remain off-stage except for mentions.

    ‘Shoots O’Will in the gut’

    I believe peritonitis was 100% fatal in the days of the Old West.

    “The woodwind section is particularly insistent on being noticed”

    The instruments needed a shot in the gut.

    “characters are inconsistent within the same scene”

    Early version of NPCs

    “With the small cast, I wasn’t expecting Indians”

    Perhaps the Spanish inquisition?

    “notches both ears”

    Ol’Will is special. Even the President doesn’t get notched in both ears.

    With shooting like that Doc Holliday should have gotten job offers from any number of Wild West shows of the time.

    “This is a serious departure from history”

    And nothing else was? You’re funnin’ me.

    Again, enjoyed your rant.

    • UnCivilServant

      I believe peritonitis was 100% fatal in the days of the Old West.

      People did survive abdominal injuries, chest wounds, etc. While not probable, it does happen. You don’t want to rely on it too much, but the time he spends bedridden is longer than most characters get.

  8. Evan from Evansville

    Well. If it felt like a useless couple of hours, it at least made for a fun and funny read.

    re historical accuracy: Damn. That’s especially dumb, perhaps especially back then, closer to the Doc. Uh. Unless my pet clown fed me to my alligators herd after I had weaned them onto pickles, I don’t want folk lying about my manner of death. As for Hughes lying about that, wow. Not a damn person was getting paid to even contemplate having any idea other than what his minor majesty commanded.

    • UnCivilServant

      Doc Holliday died of Tuberculosis in Colorado.

    • Ted S.

      Then you should watch Young Man With a Horn. It’s based loosely on the life of Bix Beiderbecke. So loosely, in fact, that the Beiderbecke analogue (played by Kirk Douglas) survives at the end of the movie.

  9. Gustave Lytton

    From the ded thred. For the broader tariff impact, just look at the charts the Trump admin is boasting of tariff revenue increases. All of those dollars came out of the pockets of consumers in this country. The decrease in imports due to deminimis rule changes is the unseen part.

    • Fourscore

      “If the President says it, it’s not a lie”

      Hard to tell the difference between Dick and Don. No virgins of any of the others in between either.

      • juris imprudent

        “If the President says it, it’s not a lie”

        Hmm, that’s right up there with “we stole it fair and square” (not that TR himself said that).

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      The elimination of de minimus was the torpedo that sunk my international buying ship. I used to order from Europe several times a year, and saved thousands that way. There were many items I’ve purchased where I saved several hundred dollars buying from Europe. That train is gone, and not only are those same items not cheaper in US stores, but they’re more than they were before tariffs and the elimination of de minimus. With having to buy those items in the some items are upwards of 30% more now than they used to be. Maybe more.

      The problem with how tariffs have been implemented is that he’s slicing and dicing with a sledgehammer. The elimination of de minimus was meant to combat billions of dollars in Temu orders coming in daily. But it also covers small market items that can’t be made here. There should be many more exemptions, or, better yet, significantly narrowing down what gets tariffed.

      • Threedoor

        My wife got a bill from FedEx on a single item order she made off of Etsy from England.

        It is almost as much as the item was.

        I’ve never gotten a bill like that before and may not pay it. FedEx can try to collect the 28 bucks or whatever it’s.

      • R.J.

        That should not happen, the bill may be bogus.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        It happens all the time. It’s standard to get a bill from UPS/FedEx/DHL. If you don’t pay it, the item will be sent back, and the seller will be out of pocket. They won’t deliver it until the tariff is paid.

        The problem with those transactions often isn’t the tariff, but the “brokerage fee” charged by delivery companies. The last tariff bill I paid had a brokerage fee double that of the tariff itself.

      • Threedoor

        They delivered it.
        Sent the bill about a week later.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        I’m of 2 minds about the tariffs….

        I don’t think they’ve been implemented with any sort of grace or nuance. We went from no tariffs, to everything being tariffed very quickly, raising the cost of an untold number of goods. I understand the point is protectionism, but being that so much if what is tariffed can’t be or isn’t made here at all, WTF are we protecting? I’m not buying some American alternative not because I don’t want to pay more, but because I can’t, and with tariffs, it’s more expensive to buy foreign products, which means I don’t buy anything at all. That’s bad.

        As far fetched as the idea is, I think Trump wants to replace, in part or in whole, the income tax with tariff income. Now, he won’t get it done. Republicans aren’t smart enough to kill the income tax. But I do think there is something to that idea. Getting rid on the income tax would be a massive boon to the economy. I can’t imagine how much better my life would be with a whole lot of extra cash with every paycheck. The problem is that the idea will never be realized.

      • Chipping Pioneer

        I got a bill from FedEx, too. After the item was delivered. I didn’t authorize them to make any payments on my behalf. I guess they could decide to not deliver to my address any more.

      • Fourscore

        Closing costs are always paid by the buyer.

        It may look like the seller is paying because it reduces his net but the buyer is the one putting out the cash.

        It’s same with the tariffs.

      • Gustave Lytton

        A number of items I buy cannot be obtained in the US.

    • R C Dean

      “All of those dollars came out of the pockets of consumers in this country.”

      They all came from the pockets of foreign companies. How much was passed through to American consumers, nobody knows.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Definitely not all of it. I’ve personally paid tariff bills either at the POS or from a bill received.

        Very much of the cost has been passed down, at least with the industries I’m more familiar with.

        Walmart or Apple can afford to eat the tariffs. Your average 2-man small business that builds electronic gadgets and relies on parts not made domestically can’t.

      • R C Dean

        And (again) from a global perspective, how much of the tariffs are passed on 100% on individual specialty orders, v. how much is eaten by multinationals who don’t want to lose market share in the biggest market on the planet?

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2026/02/who-is-paying-for-the-2025-u-s-tariffs/

        *****

        https://econofact.org/are-tariffs-raising-u-s-retail-prices

        Prices of both imported products and domestically-produced goods rose in response to tariff announcements. Determining the extent to which tariff increases are translating to higher consumer prices is difficult in the short run. Official price statistics and traditional surveys typically provide data infrequently and with significant lags. To address this information gap, we track daily changes to the online prices of over 350,000 products sold at five large U.S. retailers. In the months before tariffs were implemented, prices for both imported and domestic goods were trending down, reflecting the fact that many goods in our dataset, particularly electronics and furniture, are introduced at high prices and discounted gradually over time (see chart). Prices for imported goods fell temporarily from late November to early January, displaying typical holiday discounts in categories such as electronics and household items. After the tariffs were implemented, prices persistently followed a new upward trajectory, marking a clear break from pre-tariff trends. Retail prices reacted quickly to tariff announcements, rising within days of the first announcements in early March. The adjustment was gradual with prices continuing to increase over the following months. Between March and September, prices of imported goods increased by about 5.4 percent while domestic goods rose by 3 percent relative to pre-tariff trends.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Unless prepaid, the importer is responsible for the tariff payment, not the exporter.

  10. cyto

    An odd bit of siciology:

    The Miss South Carolina pageant meme “And such as, The Iraq” has recently made a comeback

    https://x.com/i/status/2023171048787619905

    The wife brought it up yesterday as someone had posted a version critical of Pam Bondi. My daughter had never heard of it, so mom pulled up the original video to show her. She explained the beauty pageant context and how stupid the contestant was.

    When I tried to provide further context, I noticed a stark difference in how the sexes view this event. When I said something to the effect of “the poor thing was so over-prepared to answer with platitudes about geopolitics and world peace, getting an off-the-wall question like ‘Americans cant read maps’ left her completely flummoxed, unable to think and desperately repeating phrases she was drilled on'”

    This actually made the wife angry, possibly because she thought it to be a defense of Trump by proxy. But in it, I noticed, it was important to her the the contestant is an idiot. No quarter given. No charitable version possible.

    If you look in the replies on X above, you see quite a few accounts that seem to be men saying things to the effect of “poor girl had one deer-in-the-headlights moment and now she is the “stupid girl” go-to meme for all time.”

    I dont really notice any women with that take on there.

    Kinda goes against the empathy stereotypes, doesnt it?

    • slumbrew

      Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.

      • Threedoor

        Very nice.

      • slumbrew

        In my head it was Ambrose Bierce, but it was Mencken, who was even more of a cynic.

    • R C Dean

      Goes against the empathy/sisterhood narrative? Yes.

      Inconsistent with the real world, where many women appear to be locked in a never-ending passive-aggressive knife fight over, I guess, status? Nope, not at all.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      Several years ago she was a contestant on The Amazing Race. She made it to the final three and beat the bitchy San Francisco lesbians who dismissed her as an idiot. Maybe she’s no rocket surgeon, but I don’t think she’s stupid. She had a bad moment.

      • rhywun

        Ugh my roommate buddy and I were huge fans of that crap until my realization of the fatal flaw of the thing made it completely unwatchable about 20 years ago. IIRC they all begin at the same starting line in every city. So it’s really like 10 or 12 Amazing Races, only the last one of which actually counts for the ones who are left.

        It would be watchable again if all the contestants had to actually complete the fucking thing, but then would need like a dozen camera crews.

      • UnCivilServant

        Pretty much all reality TV breaks down when you look for the patterns behind the scenes.

    • Threedoor

      Oh no. Killed hundreds of thousands of Chinese.

      A couple factors of ten less than the Chinese communists did.

      • UnCivilServant

        Who threw those Chinese soldiers into Korea?

      • Threedoor

        The will of the people of course.

        Communism is all about the community.

      • Threedoor

        Eisenhower hated McArthur and hamstringed him in Korea. The Chinese airfields should have been pounded but oh no couldn’t do that.

  11. cyto

    On reality TV:

    Some years ago, they filmed a German reality TV show at the house across the canal from me. One of my neighbor’s house was in a bit of disrepair with a shabby lawn. They paid him to put a bunch of potted palms and other plants in his back yard to give them a good backdrop for scenes out by the pool.

    We watched them film a few times while we had dinner on our deck. They would grab a couple from the pool, take them to the hot tub, have another couple giving an interview while others were in the pool or drinking at the bar.

    There was so much obvious time compression and involvement by producers. The contestants were basically improv actors from what I could tell. The cameras were so involved and intrusive that it would have been impossible to have a real conversation.

    The whole thing lasted a couple of weeks, and they filmed several hours a day at the house. Probably lots of day trips in there to various Florida attractions.

    In short, the whole thing was an illusion. Fake wealth. Fake opulence. Fake relationships. Fake conflict. Fake everything. Nothing “reality” about it.

    • Threedoor

      Years ago my dad was approached about a reality TV thing. It’s a bummer he didn’t do it as it would have blown up all the weird relationships he has and how controlling his wife is over him and her kids/grandkids.

      I would have watched the shit out of it.

    • Aloysious

      Reality television: the lie is in the name.

      • juris imprudent

        Right up there with jumbo shrimp and military intelligence.

  12. Evan from Evansville

    Indy Star white dude wants to make other white dudes feel as inadequate as other white dudes are supposed to feel:

    “Not getting a particular opportunity isn’t discrimination. It’s part of life and a chance to be better next time.
    Hey, fellow white guys, do we really want to see ourselves as weak victims who need protection from evil social forces?

    Vice President JD Vance ― who purports to be very concerned about masculinity ― seems to think so, along with the Trump administration’s Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. If you feel hurt, they want you to be able to hide under the government’s skirt.

    As a white man with an extra-white surname, I find this sad and absurd. White men certainly face serious challenges, evidenced by their sky-high suicide rates. We send boys terrifically mixed messages, and expect them to be tough and sensitive men who naturally excel. That’s a lot of pressure.
    But I don’t believe seeing ourselves as victims is the solution.

    To my fellow white men, I say that not getting a particular opportunity isn’t discrimination. It’s both part of life and a chance to be better next time.
    Man up.”
    ——————–
    But seeing every other group as victims is the solution to their plight? (He adds how DEI helped him become a better person. Uh huh.)

    Remarkably anti-XY sentiment, there! Another screed showing exactly why the Left hates you, white dudes. (If I’m being called racist? Uh.. why not get something out of it?) The tedious barrel-scraping gives me (some) hope. Best sign of this? Team Blue’s revealing and *remarkably* weak bench. *crosses fingers*

    • Aloysious

      As a white man myself, right now I feel like a cracker.

      *reaches for saltines*

    • Ted S.

      And yet being stoic is considered “toxic masculinity”.

      • Ted S.

        Or, “You need to be ‘masculine’ in the way we tell you.”

    • Ted S.

      Good morning!

    • juris imprudent

      Our promised rain didn’t wash out the snow, just sort of dampened it.

    • rhywun

      No rain here but pushing 40 every day now. The snow towers around the edges of the strip plazas yesterday were amusing – around 10 or 12 feet high. Little piles here and there downtown, slowly melting.

  13. Ted S.

    GT is obviously sleeping in for the holiday. 😀

    • Gender Traitor

      Why, yes. Yes, I did sleep in.

      Good morning, Ted’S., U, Tater, JI, and Sean!

      • Sean

        😀

      • Fourscore

        …and a Fantastic Morning to you and yours (inclusive to those still sleeping or contemplating getting up).

      • Gender Traitor

        So far so good, but I need some caffeine. How about you?

      • Gender Traitor

        And good morning to you, too, 4(20)!

      • Ted S.

        Who *doesn’t* need caffeine?

        Well, maybe not Ninja Cat….

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not sure. Too many things to do today.

  14. Common Tater

    GM 🙂

    • rhywun

      JFC… Crap like that makes up half the NYP home page. I just roll my eyes and move on, not click on it.

      • Common Tater

        Have you heard about Savannah Guthrie’s mom?

      • rhywun

        I roll my eyes at that half, too.

  15. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam
    whats goody

    TALL HOLIDAY (not really) CANS!

    • Gender Traitor

      They don’t know exactly where the crash is because their website’s new traffic map doesn’t work on their browsers.

    • Ted S.

      Of what?

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        My sleeping schedule is generally 180 degrees of most people’s.

      • Gender Traitor

        Tired of waiting for you?

      • Ted S.

        Kinky.