305 Comments

  1. Brochettaward

    Do you even First, little bro’s?

  2. Common Tater

    Not very libertarian, maybe, but loud landscaping should be illegal.

    • AlexinCT

      Its because they deported the previous people doing it and the new people are too loud?

    • Nephilium

      Pretty sure there’s a local ordnance that limits motor powered landscaping to certain hours (I want to say something like 0900-2000), but it’s rarely enforced unless it becomes a habit.

    • Ted S.

      What about loud sex?

      • Fourscore

        Sex? What’s that?

        /Jogs memory

      • AlexinCT

        Usually you have to pay a monthly fee to see that..

      • Fourscore

        And I just thought the batteries in my hearing aids were dead.

      • Sean

        lol @4×20

  3. Brochettaward

    Illegal Immigrant Population Down 1 Million Since Trump Took Office, Research Group Says

    Still haven’t even put a dent in the influx that came under Biden. Need to step it up.

    • DrOtto

      You have to shut the spigot off before you start bailing. I think the first part has been accomplished and he’s starting in on the 2nd part.

      • AlexinCT

        And using that spigot & boat bailing analogy, he is now being attacked by the assholes that punctured the numerous holes in the bottom of the boat and are now furious he is fighting to save the bout from their attempts to sink it.

    • rhywun

      The group also acknowledged that heightened enforcement may have made some immigrants—especially those here illegally—less likely to participate in government surveys or to identify themselves accurately.

      lol No kidding?

      I suspect the total numbers are grossly underestimated.

      • Brochettaward

        Reminder that a recent Yale study of all things found the illegal population was likely up to 20 million. Far higher than even many anti-immigration types had believed.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, that “10 – 11MM” number has been floating around for years, even as new ones poured in by the millions. Personally, I think it’s north 20MM.

  4. Brochettaward

    “First, so-called experts have no license to countermand the ‘wisdom, fairness, or logic of legislative choices.’ … Second, contrary to the representations of the United States and the private plaintiffs, there is no medical consensus on how best to treat gender dysphoria in children,”

    You know, our experts are the best experts. Unlike those experts in the UK who have mostly backtracked on this nonsense after studies showed it was dangerous.

    I only wish contrary evidence to the narrative would be considered and weighed by our own expert class. I’m…envious of some fucking aspect of UK society? How pathetic is that.

    • Brochettaward

      Thomas will be lambasted by the left for this. But it’s plainly true. Experts do not have legislative authority. I don’t know how this sort of “evidence” even has been allowed in our court system to the point where progressive judges think they can trump the Constitution if enough experts agree it’s really, really important. It’s such an obvious case of special pleading.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, submission to “experts” is a pretty fundamental tenet of leftism. This is gonna make them batshit.

      • R C Dean

        It’s part and parcel of the idea that you have the right to do things we agree with, and no right to do things we don’t.

    • Nephilium

      Fourth, there are particularly good reasons to question the expert class here, as recent revelations suggest that leading voices in this area have relied on questionable evidence, and have allowed ideology to influence their medical guidance.

      “Look at the anti science n-word here!”
      –average progressive

    • rhywun

      Wonderful take-down.

      I can feel the sick burn coming off the leftist judges from here.

    • Jarflax

      Even if ‘experts’ had not become code for ideological activists this would be the correct decision, in the current state of affairs with progressive phony sciences controlling the Universities it’s a vital one.

      • juris imprudent

        Expert is code for priest, and priestly authority.

  5. Common Tater

    “Tucked into the Senate Finance Committee’s offering to the mammoth bill, which was unveiled earlier this week, are policy changes that would delist short-barrel rifles, shotguns and suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).

    That means those particular guns and accessories would no longer be subject to a $200 federal tax and would no longer need to be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.”

    Good. Including suppressors never made any sense. They aren’t weapons or firearms. They are safety equipment.

  6. DrOtto

    From the dead thread – I had a ribeye done Pittsburgh rare at Oscar’s in Vegas at the servers suggestion and it was delicious. Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it. It was a very thin veneer of crisp. Of course, if you don’t like rare steak to start with, you aren’t going to like it.

    • UnCivilServant

      For the sake of not causing great discord and hounding of my person, I have toned down my language a few times when formulating my response.

      I do not care for rare steak. /understatement.

      • Brochettaward

        I’m actually in agreement with UCS here. Rare tends to be chewy and rubbery. I don’t like leathery well done steak either, but it’s preferable to me than the alternative.

      • Nephilium

        Brochettaward:

        The proper cooking temperature depends on the cut and quality of the steak as well. For most, I find medium-rare is about as far as I want to go.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Rare that is rubbery and chewy just isnt done correctly or improper cut to support that point of doneness.

        As I got older though, my views are ‘eat a steak at whatever temps you want to’ This line of thinking fits well with Thomas’s opinion on experts.

      • Common Tater

        Some chefs say steak shouldn’t be rare unless it’s filet. I think rare filet is too soft and tasteless.

      • Homple

        Old rancher, upon being served a rare sreak:

        “I’ve seen cattle hurt worse than that get well.”

      • Beau Knott

        “How would you like your steak prepared?”
        “A good vet should be able revive it.”

      • Jarflax

        The rubbery texture may indicate that the steak wasn’t allowed to warm up before cooking.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Jarflax…great point. Many people/restaurants take from cold storage straight to hot grill/pan.

        Fat doesnt render properly in unison with the meat and you end up with chewy or inedible fat laced throughout giving a rubbery texture.

    • Mojeaux

      First time I’ve heard the term “Pittsburgh rare,” but I do like it this way. Prefer less char, tho.

      Rare beef needs lots of salt to bring out the flavor.

      • Mojeaux

        Also, whenever I make meatloaf, I snitch some pre-oven. “Poor woman’s tartare.”

      • Nephilium

        It hit regional news quite a while back as a trendy thing.

      • Sensei

        Interesting. I recall my father explaining to me as kid here in NJ.

      • slumbrew

        AFAICT, it’s the same thing as Black and Blue

      • Tonio

        Also, whenever I make meatloaf, I snitch some pre-oven. “Poor woman’s tartare.”

        Check out Kibbeh Nayeh.

      • slumbrew

        I need to try one of these at some point.

  7. AlexinCT

    Education Department targeting federal student aid scammers nationwide

    Another source of likely dnc funding rackets bites the dust?

    • Suthenboy

      Nation wide? Likely a large portion of those are from outside the US.

      • Gender Traitor

        I thought a big attraction of international students being admitted to US unis was that they tended to pay full freight so the schools didn’t have to touch those precious endowments. Now, student visa fraud may be another matter entirely.

      • AlexinCT

        How many people here knew that guy that ran the teacher union, what’s the name again, Randi Weingarten, was an official dnc party apparatchik?

        You think that every time the legacy media brought that dude on TeeVee to help peddle lies for them, that they would mention the connection to the dnc, but it never came up…

        Weird, huh?

      • Gender Traitor

        How many people here knew that “dude” was a chick? 😉

  8. Common Tater

    “Florida man broke into random house, ran bath, cooked dinner to avoid going home to angry wife

    A cartoon graphic of the arrest created by the Polk County Sheriff’s Office. A cartoon graphic of the arrest created by the Polk County Sheriff’s Office.”

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/20/us-news/florida-m

    That “cartoon graphic” is ridiculous.

  9. Mojeaux

    Husband getting his colon inspected today. I hope the hospital cafeteria has its salad bar out before he gets discharged because it’s basically the only salad bar in town, which is ANOTHER thing Uncle Sam killed over a cold.

    • AlexinCT

      Hope the report is that all systems are functional and working within the expected optimal parameters.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        Are you talking about the salad bar or the colon?

    • Gender Traitor

      ***SIGH!!!*** That’s one thing I need to schedule, though mine will be a routine 5-year done in the doctor’s office. Since the last one, though, I’ve confirmed family history – the maternal grandmother who died before my sisters and I were born, cause of death confirmed by one of my cousins. I’m just hoping that medical advancements in the last five years include a more tolerable prep beverage or, better yet, a regimen of over-the-counter stuff (as TOK described, I believe?)

      I don’t think salad bars or any other sort of buffet self-serve setups have been outlawed here. The last one I recall noticing was at the nearby late, great local Big Boy franchise. (I do not patronize Golden Corral because I am not livestock.)

      • Common Tater

        I did the thing where you just mail them your poop.

      • Gender Traitor

        TT did that and wasn’t a huge fan of that process, either. Of course, he was adopted, so WHAT family history? He has no idea what sharks are swimming around in his gene pool.

      • Mojeaux

        No, the grocery stores with salad bars shut them down and never set them back up again.

      • Common Tater

        I found it rather easy. My favorite part was the instructions, “DO NOT DRINK THE PRESERVATION LIQUID”

      • The Other Kevin

        I’m putting off the second attempt but I’m thinking it will be next month. Mom says no rush, we have no history, but SIL says GO IMMEDIATELY because of that ColoGuard fail. The doctor last time said only 20% of those turn out to be cancer.

      • Mojeaux

        Mine is due in October. Three-year plan. I was pissy about that then 51yo Bro1 popped up with stage IV colon cancer, so now I’m not pissy about it. I will swallow the Dulcolax with equanimity.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I’m on the two-year plan. It’s a shitty situation.

    • Drake

      I have to schedule the next one. Not looking forward to it.

  10. Common Tater

    “Not only did they lie, they did not even bother to hide it. After Obergefell, the champions of same-sex marriage were convinced that they were riding an inexorable wave of rainbow-hued social progress, and so they enthusiastically launched their movement down an incline that was practically a cliff. The same people and organizations that told us that same-sex marriage was about letting adults live and let live championed transitioning children and demanded a drag queen in every child’s library story hour and a man in every girls’ locker room. They declared that “eunuch” was a valid “gender identity” that ought to be medically affirmed”

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/06/20/the-10-years-since-obergefell-have-proven-its-critics-right/

    Correct in that political movements don’t stop when they reach their goals, and it is the former gay orgs pushing the trans stuff, but that’s not an argument to ban gay marriage. That third wave feminism is insane, doesn’t mean that first wave feminism was wrong.

    • Brochettaward

      You know, gay marriage wasn’t banned. It was simply not popular enough to be made legal. Even in California.

      The activists mistook a judge’s opinion for popular support at the end of the day when the shit had failed nearly every time it was put to the ballot.

      I was overall fine with the result of the decision if not the logic or precedent (it was pure activism), but by god…the people who were claiming it would be a slippery slope were proven correct. 100% so.

      • R C Dean

        Gay marriage? Sure, why not.

        Judges rewriting state law? Hell no.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        No, it was banned in California. Twice, actually.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8

        tldr version: Prop 22 banned it, California supreme court overturned, Prop 8 amended the state constitution to ban it, Federal court overturned.

    • Rat on a train

      It is similar to other groups that pushed for equal treatment demanding preferential treatment once the got it.

    • rhywun

      Yeah, it’s a bit much to claim it’s the “same people”. Most of the people who wanted marriage fell away from those groups when they got it, and then the groups got taken over by radicals.

      That said, the court decision probably is wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • Common Tater

        While most of their supporters were normies, the groups were always raging leftists.

        The SCOTUS decision makes sense. If two people are married in one state, they should still be married if they go to another state.

      • WTF

        The SCOTUS decision makes sense. If two people are married in one state, they should still be married if they go to another state.

        Now do carry permits.

      • Common Tater

        “Now do carry permits.”

        I agree, although that is a very separate issue.

      • The Last American Hero

        Have you ever been to Seattle? Because it’s the same people. Two of those groups used to be clients. They just changed their agenda the same way President Rand Paul would start by trying to get a balanced budget and if opportunity presented itself go full Milei.

      • rhywun

        Yes, it’s the same groups. Not necessarily the same people.

        I know a few gays and very few of them give two shits about “trans” issues. The radical groups deliberately conflate all this stuff in an attempt to make the ideas appear “mainstream”.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Agree.

        It’s not the same people. They are the shit that flies in when the camel pokes his nose under the tent.

        The LGB part of the equation. has by and large left the movement because they fundamentally disagree with trans and gender ideology. Their entire premise of being was that “you’re born this way” which is completely stomped all over by the “you can be whatever you want to be” crowd who sees one’s identity like they see online avatars. They don’t think the lewdness and outright sexualization of everything in every context is right. See modern “pride” parades. And they are adamantly against kids being exposed to this shit from a young age where you have fucking 8 year old drag queens.

        Every LGB I know wishes that they could snip the LGB out of the LGBTPQIA+ bullshit and let them go their own way.

    • PieInTheSky

      first wave feminism had the seeds of third wave feminism. The goals of the first wave should have been achieved via a libertarian-ish approach based on the individual, without creating identity and an activist class. They did not.

      also chicks shouldn’t vote 😛

      • Common Tater

        “The goals of the first wave should have been achieved via a libertarian-ish approach based on the individual”

        They were. It’s the second wave who were progressives.

      • Jarflax

        We should have eliminated any explicit legal barriers preventing members of any sex, ethnicity or religion from living as they choose, then stopped. Let the market reward or punish private decisions and just deal with the fact that sometimes things won’t end up exactly the way you want them to rather than defining an ‘ideal’ end state and trying to force it against the weight of aptitudes, attitudes, and customs. No one should ever be entitled to sue someone else for exercising discretion in a choice, even if their reason is one society disapproves of.

      • Jarflax

        Repealing laws that forbid women, or black people, or gay people, or Catholics from doing something otherwise legal is libertarian. Forbidding private discrimination is progressive, and evil. It inserts the law into the most sacred of private places, the individual mind and heart. Pie is right, the current state of affairs was inherent in the first wave approach.

      • juris imprudent

        then stopped

        Hello Jarflax, may I introduce you to the human race and the human need for conformity.

      • Common Tater

        “Repealing laws that forbid women, or black people, or gay people, or Catholics from doing something otherwise legal is libertarian.”

        Not that it had anything to do with gays or Catholics, but that was the first wave. They were largely the same people as abolitionists. It was that women should have equal rights under the law — that they should have the same rights to property, enter contracts, and in a court of law.

        “the current state of affairs was inherent in the first wave approach”

        I don’t see how.

      • Jarflax

        Hello Jarflax, may I introduce you to the human race and the human need for conformity.

        I’m familiar with it. The ship of liberty may be doomed to sink on the reefs of conformity and egalitarianism every time it sails, but at least for the moment I am still free to grumble about it…

      • PieInTheSky

        They were. – not necessarily in the first waive like in subsequent waves there were various flavors of feminist from classical liberal to religions to conservative to socialist. Most of the success anyway came from technological development and economic growth, the feminist movements just maybe hurried things a little bit along and created the basis for modern day identity politics. Just like child labor ended more by economic growth than leftist activism.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      “A penis is not a male body part. It’s just an unusual body part for a woman.” — Chase Strangio, the transgender ACLU attorney who argued before the Supreme Court in United States v. Skrmetti

  11. Drake

    Last week I was asking about negotiations and what the hell happened to make it go kinetic. Found this helpful.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States%E2%80%93Iran_negotiations

    Round 1 – April 12
    An Iranian news outlet reported that during the talks in Oman, Iran proposed a three-step plan to reach a deal with the United States:

    Iran would agree to temporarily lower its uranium enrichment to 3.67% in return for access to frozen financial assets in the United States and authorization to export its oil.
    Iran would permanently halt high-level uranium enrichment, restore inspections by the UN nuclear watchdog, and commit to implementing the Additional Protocol, allowing for surprise inspections at undeclared sites. These steps would be taken if the United States lifts further sanctions and persuades Britain, Germany, and France not to trigger the snapback of UN sanctions against Tehran.
    The U.S. Congress would approve the nuclear agreement and Washington would lift both primary and secondary sanctions, while Iran would transfer its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium to a third country.[78]
    Iran had reportedly also proposed steps to deescalate tensions, including a pledge to disarm and freeze the activities of Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hashd al-Shaabi.[79]

    U.S. envoy Witkoff reportedly welcomed the proposals presented by the Iranian delegation in Muscat, which was unexpected by the Iranian side.

    Perfect – Iran stops entiching uranium past civilian applications. Russia builds them a power plant and handles the fuel and waste which the Iranian power grid needs. Sanctions come down and everyone makes money which hopefully mellows out the radicals.

    Not much happens in Rounds 2 and 3 – they need to bring in the lower level diplomats to hammer out a final agreement.

    But! After Round 3 every Neo-Con starts talking mad trash, the Israelis start issuing threats and even France joins in.

    Round 4: Iran and Witkoff dispute what was discussed.

    Round 5: May 23rd
    .S. officials described the talks as constructive but emphasized that significant differences remained, particularly over the demand from the U.S. that Iran dismantle its uranium enrichment program. Iran maintained that while it was open to limiting enrichment levels, giving up enrichment entirely was unacceptable and would collapse the negotiations.

    In an month we went from a win-win agreement to no enrichment ever, even for medical purposes.
    By mid-May, somebody (the Hat, the Hair, Israel, Davos…) talked Trump in a war with Iran and torpedoing the negotiations.

    • Drake

      Unlike the negotiations, my italics didn’t close.

      Trump scuttled the talks because?
      – China / BRICS would benefit?
      – Israel wanted the war and he plans to join?
      – Trump is sick of Israel and will leave them hanging without American intervention?

      Other ideas why the purposely made this go so bad so fast?

      • AlexinCT

        I would surmise taking a page out of the North Korean battle plan to build themselves a nuke, and building the hardened facilities at Natanz followed by the mountainside facility at Fordow, all while demanding the ability to keep enriching uranium to over 90% made it obvious the end goal was a nuclear weapon. Coupled with China helping Iran circumvent every effort to stop their ballistic missile program, and yeah, I am for telling Iran unless that shit ends, they get no deal.

      • Brochettaward

        I think Israel forced the issue without much consent from Trump, and now Trump refuses to disown the Israelis and look like an idiot.

        I think Israel is interested in cutting off aid to Palestine more than they are concerned about nukes. I think they’re using the chaos of the moment and the presence of Trump as an excuse to do what they always wanted to do. They’re killing two birds with one stone. Attacking the Iranian nuclear program (which probably isn’t closer to anything than before) and weakening the Palestinians. Potentially instigating regime change which is their wet dream.

        They’ll drag the US into it.

      • rhywun

        Probably the same people that escalated tensions with Russia for no particular reason and now we’re shipping billions of dollars to Ukraine.

        Trump might have his own ideas but it’s still those types running the show.

      • juris imprudent

        Potentially instigating regime change which is their wet dream.

        Seems to me the Israelis have traditionally been very careful about kicking over the govt of neighboring states. Maybe something along the lines of better the devil you know.

    • Brochettaward

      People may start mistaking me for anti-Zionist/Semite, but it was the Jews. It was Israel.

      Israel in my view is using the nuclear program as an excuse to go after Iran. I don’t buy that they’re any closer to nukes today than five years ago.

      • Not Adahn

        So WTF do Iranian nuclear scientists do all day? Back when they were alive, I mean.

    • AlexinCT

      The only reason to have an uranium enrichment program that goes over the 10% threshold which is what is needed for energy generation, is to get to the high 90s needed to build a nuclear weapon. Iran’s refusal to stop enriching, now past 70%, tells you their indented end goal was to have the bomb or the capability to get the bomb in a week or two. Iran can not be allowed to do either of those.

      Thank you, come again.

      • Drake

        Our DNI disagreed. Iran proposed they limit themselves to 3.67% in Round 1.

        We changed the tune for some reason. We could have accepted then monitored.

      • AlexinCT

        You miss the point that Fordow exists so they can take the stuff they have enriched past 60% quickly and with drastically reduced risk enrich enough uranium for at least 10 weapons, before anyone can stop them by design? And that Iran refused to shut that down, period? They never, ever accepted, and explicitly refused, any limitations on what level of enrichment they could or would do. To claim otherwise is to be disingenuous as fuck

        As for our DNI’s claims, that was months ag. Things have changed. I also tend not to take anything that came from an Obama centric entity (old DNI reports). I remind you Obama, under Valerie Jarret (an Iranian), is where the policy was changed to allow Iran to get where it is now after decades of useless pretense that we were negotiating to stop it while giving them money to do it. Have no doubt that Iran is on the verge of breaking out today because Obama enabled that.

      • Drake

        Things have changed in a couple of months?

        Sorry, this is a rerun and I’m not buying the WMD stuff again.

      • AlexinCT

        Things have changed in a couple of months?

        Yes they have. For one, the reports Tulsi used when she made her claims back in March of this year were compiled months, if not years before, under Obama 3.0, which is when Iran went from high twenties to close to 70% enriched uranium, and those reports were as reliable as the claims of jobs they told us Biden created (or the FBI claims Epstein committed suicide). Again, Iran built Fordow for one and one reason only: so they could enrich uranium to weapons grade without anyone being able to interfere. You don’t spend the billion they did to do so (billions they got from Obama) for peaceful purposes.

        Iran’s refusal to accept the terms during the last 2 months of negotiations with Trump’s people should also be a dead giveaway their intend was to stall and get fissile material. All Iran had to do was accept the treaty proposal (we would take all enriched uranium past 10% and they could go their merry way as long as we saw they dismantled their enrichment and nuclear weapons program at Fordow) and we would not be having this discussion. They chose to stall, because they have zero intentions to comply.

        If you refuse to see things have changed (well, what has really changed is that it is now obvious Iran wants the bomb and they did so all along), that’s on you.

      • juris imprudent

        Doesn’t matter – we aren’t Team America World Police and there is no law of the universe that says who can and cannot have nukes. You want to play Big Boss Dick because we can, great, then don’t ever bitch about the blowback when people are sick of our shit.

      • R C Dean

        I have no idea how close Iran is to having a nuclear bomb. I’m pretty sure they would really, really like to have them and have been working toward that end. I also think that having a major sponsor of terrorism and instability, with who knows how many genuine apocalyptic nutters in positions of power, is a bad idea.

        I also believe that one needs to be extraordinarily risk averse when dealing with nuclear weapons. Also bioweapons (yeah, looking at you, Fauci).

      • Drake

        Iran’s refusal to accept the terms during the last 2 months of negotiations with Trump’s people

        You didn’t read my first post and link. Iran accepted the deal, then Trump threw it out and made proposals no sovereign nation would accept.

      • juris imprudent

        Also bioweapons

        Arguably worse to be subsidizing the development of these than trying to rein in who has nukes.

      • AlexinCT

        You didn’t read my first post and link. Iran accepted the deal, then Trump threw it out and made proposals no sovereign nation would accept.

        They accepted a deal in 2015. Then Obama 3.0 happened. This led Iran to abandon that deal whole heartedly, built Fordow and enriched uranium to 70%. with plans on going higher because they want nukes. Blaming Trump for telling them the old deal no longer mattered and that they would not be allowed to get a bomb, in a sane world, and to do so as if Iran was both the rational and more trustworthy actor, leaves me wondering if you are not some troll.

      • juris imprudent

        They accepted a deal in 2015.

        Was that Obama 1.0 or 2.0?

    • Common Tater

      ” Russia builds them a power plant and handles the fuel and waste which the Iranian power grid needs.”

      They need nuclear power with all that oil?

      • WTF

        No, no they don’t.

      • Brochettaward

        I’m no expert, but it makes sense to save your oil for export. It’s the only thing funding that shithole.

      • Drake

        Hey! Texas has some nice parts.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        They are trying to go green.

  12. Sensei

    WSJ – This time it’s really, really, really going to be different!

    MAGA’s Misguided Isolationists

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/maga-isolationists-iran-israel-tucker-carlson-donald-trump-republicans-b3ada802?st=1DGV6z&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Start with the threat and the mission. Like leftists after Vietnam, the new-right isolationists see every U.S. military intervention as a slippery slope to disaster. Instead of Vietnam Syndrome, they suffer from Iraq Syndrome: Every U.S. intervention will turn into a quagmire of “nation-building,” or even catastrophe.

    • Brochettaward

      How naive is it to think that you start lobbing bombs at Iran and not suffer blowback we don’t need? Blowback that would escalate the war entirely?

      Then what? You invade a country far larger than Iraq with a larger population and mountainous terrain? How’d that work in Afghanistan, you putz?

      I have argued not every war is Vietnam and that no war is unwinnable, but I don’t trust our current leadership and it’s simply not a war we have any good reason to fight. Even if Iran got nukes, I couldn’t really care less. I get why Israel does, but ISrael isn’t the 51st state.

      • WTF

        To be fair, the invasion and conquest portions of Iraq and Afghanistan went pretty much as expected, since nobody can realistically stand against the US armed forces. The idiotic attempts at nation-building and trying to impose democracy on a tribalist society was the problem. Breaking all their shit, and killing all their leaders would be pretty easy, which is what the actual goal of a war should be.

      • Sensei

        Yes. The blowback is completely foreseeable. It’s just conveniently being ignored.

      • AlexinCT

        Who said there needed to be in invasion? The goal here is to shut down the nuclear bomb projects. That can easily be achieved without any invasion (boots on the ground).

        I wonder why people act as if Iran is just some common place that wants a bomb instead of a country run by the greatest terror supporting cabal of evil fucks you could imagine, one that routinely talks about ending the west, America and Israel specifically, but have no doubt they men all of it, including their heretic Arab neighbors, and all so they can usher in the end of times and solve the schism between the Sunnis and themselves over who was right after that pedo Mohamed died.

      • Brochettaward

        To Alex:

        What happens when Iran starts bombing US military installations in the region? How many dead US service members do you think it’s going to take to provoke a wider war?

        Also, Iran getting nukes is just not anything even resembling an existential threat to the US. You can try to use all the scare tactics you’d like. It is for Israel given the size of the state and the proximity to the mostly peaceful Palestinians, but we are not Israel. Iran isn’t going to give a nuke to some random nutjob and get it into the states to detonate it. The idea is ludicrous if not impossible.

      • Drake

        If the goal was to shut down the nuke program, why does Israel constantly target the leaders? Why are all the neo-cons talking about regime change?

      • Fourscore

        “I have argued not every war is Vietnam and that no war is unwinnable”

        Winning has to be defined in advance. The War Against the Illegals hasn’t been defined, as Trump keeps changing the terms.

        What degree of stalemateness is winning?

      • AlexinCT

        What happens when Iran starts bombing US military installations in the region? How many dead US service members do you think it’s going to take to provoke a wider war?

        At this point the only Iranian assets left are ballistic and cruise missiles. They have no air force or navy left. Their air defenses are gone, and THAT makes retaliation by us real dangerous to the. And the number of other functional systems they have are non existent. Worse yet, the Iranian leadership knows that they are vulnerable and could be targets themselves, if they escalate, which is precisely why they have not done the usual tactic of attacking everyone. They have not been begging to get back to the negotiating table because they think they can ride this out or win.

        Unless Russia and the CCP directly start helping them rearm – and Russia can’t and the CCP won’t unless they can hide it – their military situation will not change. You couple that with the vast majority of the Iranian people now basically coming out to demand regime change, and I simply do not see a scenario where the mullahs would decide to retaliate if we just end their nuclear ambitions.

        I say this again: there is neither a need nor a desire to put boots on the ground in Iran by us. This is about Iran either willingly ending their nuclear program or we ending that for them.

      • Nephilium

        Brochettaward:

        I’ve seen one (unconfirmed) report of three Iranian drones making an approach at a shared Iraqi/US base (in Iraq). The same report said all three drones were disabled/destroyed before they did anything.

        Personally, I think it’s more of an argument about us pulling our troops out of bases there.

      • Common Tater

        “Iran isn’t going to give a nuke to some random nutjob and get it into the states to detonate it. ”

        The same people chanting “Death to America!”?

      • AlexinCT

        If the goal was to shut down the nuke program, why does Israel constantly target the leaders? Why are all the neo-cons talking about regime change?

        Because the leaders are the ones refusing to abandon the project to build the bomb and the ones doing the work to keep it alive? I mean, it is real obvious to me that the intent is to make sure the Ayatollah knows he will not get this and it is in his benefit to settle this or else. You telling me that simple logic escapes you?

      • juris imprudent

        can easily be achieved

        Sure – a veritable cakewalk.

        And the proponents of regime change never seem to grasp that change can always be for the worse.

      • The Last American Hero

        If we bomb enough countries, surely one of them will greet us as liberators.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Suffer? For not wanting to put sons amd daughter into a meat grinder? GFY WSJ

      • Brochettaward

        Sure our attempts at regime change have all failed in the past even when not turning into massive quagmires (see Libya and Hillary’s arrogant we came, we saw bullshit), but this regime change will be different!

        Iran is built for turning shit into a quagmire. They did it to Alexander the Great. They did it to the Mongols. But you think our incompetent politicized military leadership is going to pull this off? Get the fuck out of here.

      • AlexinCT

        Sure our attempts at regime change have all failed in the past

        Actually the attempts all worked. These regimes changed. The problem was always what followed that success. We either half assed the whole thing because the priority only had to do with making some rich people richer, or because idiots actually believed they could change millennia of dysfunctional culture overnight and without brutal force was possible. Maybe papa Bush, whom was excoriated for leaving Saddam in power in 91/92 was not as dumb as everyone thought he was for avoiding that regime change problem. And this business way too often looks as if you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t to me.

        America’s problem is that our globalist leaders fantasize that everyone wants the same things that they want, which is bullshit. For one, most others do not like the vision that they will be on the lower rungs of this new world order instead of the ones in charge (see CCP and Russia).

      • Brochettaward

        Yea, Iraq isn’t a puppet of Iran. Afghanistan isn’t in Taliban hands now. Libya isn’t a shithole run by warlords. Syria isn’t run by terrorists now.

        It’s all been a smashing success because we took a lot of land quickly.

      • AlexinCT

        Yea, Iraq isn’t a puppet of Iran. Afghanistan isn’t in Taliban hands now. Libya isn’t a shithole run by warlords. Syria isn’t run by terrorists now.

        What is your point? That the people that called the shots wasted the effort our troops made in ending the original problems they were sent there to solve? That our leadership is more interested in making money from endless wars than winning the fucking was they started? Because our problem isn’t that we can’t win wars, but that the people leading don’t want to win the wars. And that is because winning wars is not as lucrative or politically appetizing.

        Nation building is a waste of time. Trump has no desire to ever do that, and he was one of the first that said that made the whole Iraq war stupid as fuck.

      • juris imprudent

        We either half assed the whole thing…

        So we just need more competent progressives running things, here and there, is that it?

      • AlexinCT

        So we just need more competent progressives running things, here and there, is that it?

        Oh JI, that was just evil…

        Well played.

      • R C Dean

        Didn’t Alexander and the Mongols both conquer the region, only to have it slip away due to succession problems?

        Of course, I absolutely, positively do not want us directly involved in Iran.

      • Brochettaward

        Didn’t Alexander and the Mongols both conquer the region, only to have it slip away due to succession problems?

        The are can be conquered like any can. I’ve always argued any war is winnable.

        It took Alexander the Great half a decade. Why? Because the Iranian strongholds were a bitch to crack and he spent years on a wild goose chase through the mountains.

        Did the same shit with the Mongols who conquered through sheer terror and speed.

        What do you think they’re going to do with us?

        As for Alex, you can tell me all day what you think Trump is in the business of. You go to war with Iran, you better damn well be prepared for that regime falling and something worse taking it’s place.

    • Drake

      In the run up this time we antagonized both China and Russia. They’ll pour drones and other weapons into Iran in incredible volumes.

      • AlexinCT

        Russia was buying drones from Iran for their war in Ukraine. The facilities that were building those drones was destroyed the other day in Iran. And the only help the CCP will give is whatever it can hide so it can keep pretending it is not really already at war with us.

      • Drake

        I hope the pretending phase doesn’t come to an end.

      • AlexinCT

        Oh, I am sad to tell you that I am despondent to admit I now feel it will. China intends to be top dog, and while they would prefer to win the war without really going kinetic, have no doubt they are willing to do that if they get the chance. And they really really got close to do that, not once, but twice. We are in a new Cold War and have basically financed that enemy because of the greed and criminality of the globalist cabal and their agenda of the last 3 decades.

    • WTF

      Giggity!

    • Brochettaward

      I was standing in line at a convenient store and saw a pilot buying a shit ton of condoms (it was near the airport, and he was in uniform). It was like 10 boxes.

      I don’t think he’d have minded being stuck in a sex dungeon for the night.

    • Rat on a train

      They described it as a ‘comical mistake’, but it meant the team could not get any sleep, which is ‘essential to the safety of aircraft and passengers’.
      They booked us here. Might as well take advantage of it.

  13. Tres Cool

    Hey Banjos
    How YOU doin?

  14. Tres Cool

    “ The crew, made up of 12 people who spent the evening in the hotel, which includes a vagina-shaped spa bath, the Sun reports.”

    I dunno. Seems fishy.

    • AlexinCT

      Was there a little man in a boat?

    • juris imprudent

      Honest, I just sorta slipped in!

  15. UnCivilServant

    I want to just crawl under my desk and hide. Not for any reason in particular, but it’s been that kind of morning.

    But then I’d probably fall asleep, which can get me fired…

    • The Other Kevin

      It’s been that kind of week for us here.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m debating asking if I could take a half day.

        But I called out sick on monday, so I keep thinking it would look bad.

      • The Other Kevin

        I’m thinking the same here. A day off would really help, but it’s been like a month since I worked a full 5 day week. Although I have at least 20 sick days set up.

      • slumbrew

        May 19th was my last 5-day workweek. It’s been 3 weeks since I worked even 4 days.

        Nice and all, but I do have things to do…

  16. The Late P Brooks

    “Taken together,” the senior justice wrote, “this case serves as a useful reminder that the American people and their representatives are entitled to disagree with those who hold themselves out as experts, and that courts may not ‘sit as a super-legislature to weigh the wisdom of legislation.’”

    Where was this novel theory of jurisprudence five years ago?

    • Sensei

      They have the wise Latina.

      • Jarflax

        Would you accept wizened rather than wise?

      • Suthenboy

        This would be the same ‘wise’ Latina whose master’s thesis was an argument that socialism failed in the United States because they didnt have the right people in charge?

      • dbleagle

        It is too bad that Thomas is getting long in the tooth. I don’t think his replacement will be anywhere near him in value.

    • rhywun

      The whole thing is ridiculous. How many terrorists and spies are sharing info on TikTok…?

      • EvilSheldon

        You would be fucking shocked.

        And in any case, anything that gets people to quit whoring themselves out to the social media conglomerates, I’m in favor of.

  17. PieInTheSky

    While most libertarians are on interventionists, one interventionist view I have is the West should have kept the Shah in power in Iran and help him get rid of the ayatollahs

    • Drake

      Or… we could have not done a regime change in ’53 making the Shah a dictator.

      • AlexinCT

        Sure, we could have left the KGB marxist candidate take over Iran in 53 as if there was no Cold War going on.

      • PieInTheSky

        Well the Brits would have done that anyway. And absent the coup it have probably led to a similar situation to today… Iran would not have modernized or had serious economic growth and the islamists would taken over anyway at some point.

      • Drake

        And in the end, it wouldn’t have mattered.

      • PieInTheSky

        Mosaddegh seemed on his way to dictatorship himself …

      • AlexinCT

        BTW, the Iranian people are right now asking the Shah’s son to come take power from the mullahs. Seems they have concluded that the Shah as a dictator was far more benevolent to them than the murderous cult of death currently in power.

      • EvilSheldon

        Much of the chaos in the middle east, including the entire Palestinian conflict, is a legacy of KGB influence operations in the 50’s and 60’s. Not to say that the Western response was in any way competent (thanks Ford, thanks Carter…)

      • AlexinCT

        Not to say that the Western response was in any way competent (thanks Ford, thanks Carter…)

        So much this…

        People still do not understand how close Carter get us to nuclear annihilation in a war with the Soviet Union by being so fucking weak and making the US so fucking inept because the priority of the left was to help the marxists win the Cold War.

      • Jarflax

        BTW, the Iranian people are right now asking the Shah’s son to come take power from the mullahs. Seems they have concluded that the Shah as a dictator was far more benevolent to them than the murderous cult of death currently in power.

        I’m sure there is a monarchist faction, but claiming it is “the Iranian people” based on nothing more than it being what you’d like to be true isn’t persuasive.

      • rhywun

        Much of the chaos in the middle east, including the entire Palestinian conflict, is a legacy of KGB influence operations in the 50’s and 60’s.

        This, and it continues today. See your nearest college campus for examples.

      • AlexinCT

        I’m sure there is a monarchist faction, but claiming it is “the Iranian people” based on nothing more than it being what you’d like to be true isn’t persuasive.

        I have seen a hefty number of X posts from Iranians asking for that very thing. The thing is that most now realize the Shah, which was BTW deposed by the KGB and that fool Carter, during a revolution that was then hijacked by Khomeini, was not as bad as what they got. And I cam not sure if the KGB government would not have been just as bad as what they got instead.

      • juris imprudent

        the Iranian people are right now asking

        Uh huh, according to whom?

      • AlexinCT

        Uh huh, according to whom?

        X posts from Iranian women revolting against the honor/decency standards of the Ayatollah regime?

      • Jarflax

        Again, “most” is not something I believe you can judge from seeing a handful of tweets. You may possibly be right, but insisting that your every wish, hope, preference, or fear is revealed truth is not persuasive. I probably agree with you better than 90% of the time, but your tendency is increasingly to use angry insistence in place of rational analysis.

      • AlexinCT

        but insisting that your every wish, hope, preference, or fear is revealed truth is not persuasive

        And that is what you thought I was doing? All I was doing is pointing out that the vast majority of Iranians regret the current regime and some where asking for the Shah, which someone else had referred to as a dictator (he was a king), and they regret it more than what they used to have.

      • The Last American Hero

        Is this like the Iranian version of Ahmed Chalabi?

      • juris imprudent

        X posts from Iranian women

        Do they tell you they love you long time too?

      • Jarflax

        You want the vast majority of Iranians to regret the current regime and thus it becomes so for you. That is exactly what I am talking about. You do not know that to be true, you have no basis for believing it is true other than a handful of tweets, which may or may not be from people living in Iran (hint, some or all of the people tweeting about the Shah may be people who migrated after he was deposed). Yet you state it, not as your opinion or hope, but as demonstrated fact. I am not stating that this is false, because I also have no basis for assessing the political mood in a country of 90,000,000 people I don’t know, and have no first hand contact with.

        Above you accuse Drake of arguing in bad faith for disagreeing with your arguments which basically boil down to Iran is bad, therefore all bad things said about Iran are factual. I agree that Iran is bad. I even agree that intelligence reports that say they are not working toward a bomb strike me as unlikely to be accurate, but someone who disagrees with those ideas is not thereby shown to be trolling. That’s prog logic, to claim any disagreement must be dishonest because my opinions are TRUTH.

      • juris imprudent

        vast majority of Iranians regret the current regime

        Another fact not in evidence.

        The greater part of the population is not very intelligent, dreads responsibility, and desires nothing better than to be told what to do. Provided the rulers do not interfere with its material comforts and its cherished beliefs, it is perfectly happy to let itself be ruled.

        — Huxley

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      We should have bombed France before they sent the Ayatollah back to Iran.

  18. EvilSheldon

    “In Landmark Skrmetti Case, Justice Thomas Demolishes The ‘Expert Class’”

    If you made a pile of every case where a ‘credentialed medical expert’ behaved in monumentally unethical and scientifically idiotic ways…the resulting mound would rival Mount Everest.

    • AlexinCT

      If the criminality of the medical community vis a vis the Kung Flu and this mutilation of children shit has not dissuaded you yet that the expert classes should never be trusted unless what they say is verified, you have problems.

    • Jarflax

      It would beat Everest hollow in the number of bodies littering the mountain metric.

    • Nephilium

      Instead of a pile, can we make it a cairn with the experts at the bottom?

  19. Ownbestenemy

    Was supposed to be a nice 4 day weekend but having to cover the tower on Saturday for 12 hours is going to be a slog.

    • Jarflax

      If you cover it with a Faraday cage you can probably catch a nap. Let me know in advance though, I want to be out of my house and also to lower my deductibles.

    • Suthenboy

      Three paragraphs in and I cant be bothered to finish. I am guessing Troy is gay.
      Spit on someone and dont be surp[rised if they dont come within spitting distance again. This isn’t a brainbuster . Poor Fox Butterfield got associated with a cognitive condition that more than half of the human race suffers from.

    • EvilSheldon

      Hmm, I wonder why men withdraw from intimacy and refuse to show vulnerability? Could it be because they’ve experienced women viciously exploiting intimacy and vulnerability for their own benefit, and they don’t want to play that game anymore?

      Nah, couldn’t be…

      • slumbrew

        Hmm, I wonder why men withdraw from intimacy and refuse to show vulnerability?

        I’m old enough to remember when women said they wanted men like Alan Alda and then complained “What happened to real men?”. They do not, in fact, want Mr. Sensitive Ponytail Guy.

        Revealed preferences > stated preferences.

      • The Last American Hero

        I always wondered if Sensitive Ponytail Guy in that movie was playing a part to get some play, and when she moved out he just moved on to the next target.

    • Ted S.

      “Men Going Their Own Way” was evil. The 4B movement, on the other hand, is stunning and brave.

      • Common Tater

        4B is just re-heated Sheila Jeffreys slop.

      • Ted S.

        4B came from South Korea.

      • Common Tater

        “4B came from South Korea.”

        Yes, and?

    • WTF

      It doesn’t occur to them that maybe the men were actually driven away, and maybe some shit should change.

    • AlexinCT

      Of course the problem, as always, is the men.

      It should not escape us that we constantly hear about the rights and expectations women should have, and the responsibilities that men should have. Basically feminism has become women get free shit from men, and those men are expected to give it up without any expectations of a reciprocal system, or else. That’s marxism in a nutshell with the freeloaders playing the role of the women and the men being the golden geese they want to fleece.

    • Common Tater

      Read the whole thing. It’s a lot of words that says very little.

      • Sensei

        She’s divorced and has had a variety of relationships both long and short. She can’t find a man.

        Men need to do better.

    • Gender Traitor

      I remember when part of heterosexual male culture involved showing up with a woman to signal something — status, success, desirability. Women were once signifiers of value, even to other men. It wasn’t always healthy, but it meant that men had to show up and put in some effort.
      That dynamic has quietly collapsed. We have moved into an era where many men no longer seek women to impress other men or to connect across difference. They perform elsewhere. Alone. They’ve filtered us out.

      “A woman needs a man man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle.” Oh noes! Shame on men for not needing us anymore! 🙄

      • juris imprudent

        It wasn’t always healthy

        Toxicity, isn’t that the word?

    • Nephilium

      “Come back! We’re not done nagging you yet!”

      • Suthenboy

        And there it is in a nutshell.

    • R C Dean

      “The way many men had quietly withdrawn from intimacy and vulnerability.”

      You mean, men are starting to reject the idea that they need to be more like women?

    • Shpip

      Women were once signifiers of value, even to other men. It wasn’t always healthy, but it meant that men had to show up and put in some effort.

      That dynamic has quietly collapsed. We have moved into an era where many men no longer seek women to impress other men or to connect across difference. They perform elsewhere. Alone. They’ve filtered us out.

      Any introspection as to why that might be, sweetie?

      Without going full-MGTOW, lots of guys have figured out that with modern women, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. It’s a damn sight easier for a lot of twentysomething dudes to just come home after work to the apartment they share with a buddy, have a beer, and settle in for a night of Call of Duty or whatever. Need to release a little tension? Go to any of the hundreds of free adult sites and rub one out — easier than dealing with the SSRI-addled chick who expects an inordinate amount of time, attention, and money in exchange for mediocre sex and heightened drama.

    • Nikkodemus

      Just wait until the sexbots arrive. Female legislators will be lined up around the block to outlaw them.

      Get back on your plantation, men.

  20. Suthenboy

    Aside from thinking that the constitution does not go far enough I am a big fan and an originalist. Words dont have meanings, meanings have words, thus the originalism.

    Shall. Not. Be. Infringed. is a meaning, not words to be weaseled into ‘must be infringed’.

    Also, I will add that Thomas could be the best Justice in our history. He is not perfect by any measure but the competition is so lame…
    The left saw that coming thus the way they went after him so hard during his confirmation.

    • AlexinCT

      I again point out that America is the only country in the world with a constitution explicitly telling the government what they are allowed to do (and thus what they are not allowed to do). All other countries have constitutions that tell the people what the government is allowed to give them (and thus take away at any point). We intended to limit our government in our constitution. Theirs limits their people.

    • juris imprudent

      And yet Thomas defended strip-searching a girl in school for the sake of an aspirin (in the context of The War on Drugs). Clearly no one is perfect.

      • Suthenboy

        That is the case I had in mind when I wrote that but again, the bar is so low….so to speak.

      • AlexinCT

        Well, we also had a whole cloth invented right to abortions being legal in the constitution, for decades, so the thing goes both ways,

    • KSuellington

      Gorsuch so far has been pretty stellar, but yeah Thomas has a much longer stint, and aside from a small handful of bad rulings (the aspirin one mentioned in particular) has had some solid rulings. I loved reading that takedown of the expert class, too bad it wasn’t given five years ago.

      • rhywun

        I just read about Gorsuch writing some bit of nonsense conflating gays and trannies in a past ruling but I’ll let it slide since he seems pretty good otherwise.

      • juris imprudent

        I believe Gorsuch was writing that about the structure of the legislation, not any constitutional provision. Somewhere between him and Thomas lies the ideal justice.

  21. Shpip

    Florida Man doing Florida Man things, stone fruit edition

    Rodrigo Mendizabal, 29, has been accused of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on a person 65 or older after getting into a fight with another man who was picking mangos off a tree, WPLG reported, citing authorities.

    The elderly man was driving by a Miami home Monday when he saw a mango tree outside, police say. He decided to go to the home and asked to pick some fruit, according to authorities. Police said a woman who greeted him allowed him to take some mangos.

    And of course, things go downhill from there.

    I read stuff like this nearly every day, but this particular story made my spirits drupe.

    • Suthenboy

      I am pretty sure I am going to hell. My consolation is that shpip will be there to entertain me.

    • The Other Kevin

      “thought to be fertility symbols due to their exaggerated breasts.”

      Are they sure the women back then weren’t all Q’s type?

      • PieInTheSky

        or the sculptors were Q types

      • AlexinCT

        Embrace the power of both?

      • rhywun

        One in each hand?

    • Pope Jimbo

      Isn’t it problematic to name something in Poland after some moldy old Roman goddess?

  22. Suthenboy

    Iranian regime change : Governments, even those with lots of foreign meddling, are born of the culture in that country. KGB, CIA, Carter etc aside left to their own devices the Iranian people would likely have an oppressive government.

    Challenge to Iran : Prove me wrong. Nothing would make me happier than for you to prove me dead wrong.

    *The foundation of any free society is belief in individual, inalienable rights. Without that any government will be shit.

    • PieInTheSky

      the Iranian people would likely have an oppressive government – well yes but there may have been a chance to change the culture with a modernization program that lasted long enough…

      Then again Turkey was forcibly secularized in the 1920s and it seems it may be starting to wear off.

      I don’t know if Iran could have been secularized, but I do no Islam and civilization are incompatible.

      And it is sad, because Iran like Lebanon could have been a great place. Then again many a shithole could have been a great place. But Iran with its geography and history definitely.

      • R C Dean

        “but I do no”

        Oh, great. Is this the new “payed”?

      • PieInTheSky

        I meant to say I do no think that Islam etc but somehow missed typing two words.

      • PieInTheSky

        phone typing has never been my forte irrespective of language

      • Suthenboy

        Yes. There is nothing magic about dirt. Any place on earth could be heaven but they are all infested with monkeys. There are a few civilized individuals. There is a wide spectrum…very wide… but no country or culture I consider to be truly civilized as a whole.

      • R C Dean

        Just yankin’ ya, Pie. Your command of written English is better than most native speakers.

      • juris imprudent

        There are a few civilized individuals.

        +1 Heinlein quote ending in “this is known as bad luck”

    • KSuellington

      I saw something recently that Iran has one of the lowest mosque attending percentages of the Muslim world. I think the events of the past decade or so have shown that there is a sizable majority there that would love nothing more than to be rid of their religious nutjob rulers, but that doesn’t mean so much when you live in an authoritarian shithole. I’d love to see the mullahs toppled, but don’t want the US getting further involved in yet another ME quagmire. As some have said, maybe the replacement of the mullahs would be even worse.

      • UnCivilServant

        I have seen multiple citations of some sort of polling (I don’t trust polls) claiming that only 40% of Iranians even identify as Muslim anymore.

        Caveat – I distrust polls, and polls conducted of people under an oppressive regime just have even more uncertainties.

      • rhywun

        don’t want the US getting further involved in yet another ME quagmire

        A lot of “the right” is pushing real hard for regime change – and thus, exactly that – there.

      • juris imprudent

        It isn’t just a matter of killing off a few mullahs – you’re going to have to kill off a lot of religious fanatics (also known as fellow citizens, members of your society, etc).

      • R C Dean

        “As some have said, maybe the replacement of the mullahs would be even worse.”

        Without some definition indication that the replacement for Very Bad Indeed will be Even Worse, I think it’s worth a go.

  23. db

    Regarding the leftist REEEing over Thomas’s takedown of “experts,” they miss one very important thing: this decision does nothing to limit the Legislature’s ability to write legislation encoding “expert” opinions into the law. That’s still completely allowed. Congress can certainly consult “experts” in the drafting of legislation. What they cannot do is to delegate to “experts” the powers that rightly vest in the Legislature.

    They can still get what they want, but they have to ask for it and convince others to agree to it. Which is exactly where they fail. They would rather allow “experts” to rule by fiat rather than allow the “People” to have their say as well. But they’re the ones for “Democracy.”

    • UnCivilServant

      Don’t you know? “Democracy” is doing what they tell you to do.

    • Suthenboy

      “What they cannot do is to delegate to “experts” the powers that rightly vest in the Legislature.”
      Why not? They have delegated it to everyone else. The last thing any congresscritter would be caught dead doing is their fucking job. After all, how would they have any time left to grandstand and fundraise?

      • db

        Well, in principle, that’s how it’s supposed to work. Why bother having a Constitution otherwise?

    • Nikkodemus

      This will be far more common than anyone wants to admit in the future.

      Before women outlaw it, of course.

    • R C Dean

      “Strangio”? Really?

      • Suthenboy

        No, not really.
        I refuse to believe that is not a fabrication – BB style.

        Keep in mind that these people are attempting to demoralize our culture in a very calculated and deliberate way. The gibberish they constantly vomit is meant to normalize bizzaro world in our minds…always nudging in that direction.

      • Common Tater

        I don’t know what his birth name was. Apparently, he is very against “dead naming”, and since he is a lawyer it wouldn’t surprise me if he sued anyone publishing it.

      • db

        “Chase” “Strange”

    • rhywun

      I fear that like so many issues, everyone is going to continue talking past each other on this one.

      The same person is quoted as saying, “A penis is not a male body part. It’s just an unusual body part for a woman.”

      How do you argue with something so stupid? You can’t meaningfully argue with a crazy person.

      • juris imprudent

        Some quote about absurd propositions and committing atrocities…

    • Not Adahn

      The LP prexy candidate?

      • Common Tater

        That was Chase Oliver.

  24. R C Dean

    As I read the Thomas opinion, I think what he is getting at is that (a) the courts have no business setting policy, even policy experts want and (b) the opinions of experts on what is, or is not, a good idea have no bearing on whether something is, or is not, protected by the Constitution.

    • UnCivilServant

      What? Common Sense? Unpossible!

      • creech

        That should be worth, say, $2 million book deal, but what publisher would want to be associated with “common sense” from an Uncle Tom?

    • R C Dean

      Honestly, I don’t even think he needed to, or should have, engaged on whether the experts were right.

      • juris imprudent

        I’ll disagree – it is exactly the matter of whether experts are right or not that is core to the issue. The progressive conceit is that the world is too complex for the demos and thus experts must have deference; so if the experts are wrong, or are split, then the conceit is laid bare.

    • db

      Exactly. The Legislature decides policy, the Executive carries it out in practical terms, the Judiciary determines whether the other branches have acted within the Law (the Constitution).

      • db

        Progressives care not for the Law. They care about Policy, and try to form it and enforce it in any way they can.

        I mean, so do rightists, too, but in reality, at least the Right is currently the home for people advocating for Law over Policy.

        That will change as soon as the Right cements power in the way the Left has…then they’ll swing to caring about Policy rather than lip servicing the Law.

      • Suthenboy

        “… the Judiciary determines whether the other branches have acted within the Law (the Constitution).”

        “That is a novel approach.” – Sonya Sotomayor

        Sotomayor has explicitly stated that what db says is her approach : Policy over law. She is the textbook example of an activist judge.
        I haven’t bothered to look into Jackson but I suspect she make Sotomayor look like a piker.

      • juris imprudent

        Sotomayor is Brutus’ judicial tyrant (Anti-federalist tract) in a nutshell.

      • db

        I listened to the audio of the SCOTUS oral arguments on the COVID vaccine mandate. Sotomayor (and Breyer and Kagan) were so obviously unconcerned with Law and wholly engrossed in Policy that it was disgusting.

      • The Other Kevin

        You are all correct on this. To progressives, what matters is how they feel it should be. The law is just a useful tool or an impediment.

    • slumbrew

      That’s just crazy-talk, counselor. They’re experts, we should just do what they tell us to do.

      • juris imprudent

        As always, simply substitute priest for expert and watch the progressive sputter incoherently.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back.

    Anything you say can and will be used against you.

    • UnCivilServant

      Anything you don’t say can and will be used against you.

      Any random dream we have where you misbehaved can and will be used against you.

      • Nikkodemus

        And it’s never thier fault.

    • juris imprudent

      You just totally put that meme in my head.

    • Shpip

      The war in the Middle East is the new hot chick, you may as well be Afghanistan at this point.

      Call it Ukraine Fatigue or whatever, but I’m tired of being asked to care about a border dispute between the two most corrupt white-run countries in the world.

      Let ’em punch each other in the face until their arms get tired. Just leave me (and my tax dollars) out of it.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    I recently experienced a flicker of possibility. With James. We met on Raya, the dating app. There was something mutual from the start — wordplay, emotional precision, a tone that felt attuned. It was brief, but it caught light. I remember saying to him, “Even fleeting connections matter, when they’re mutual and lit from the inside.” I meant it.

    Yeah, okay. I’m going to go put another quarter in the parking meter.

    *flees*

    • rhywun

      A “dating app” lol.

      I would demand physical proof of your sex before even considering that route.

  27. B.P.

    “Advocacy groups on Wednesday raised the alarm about a request made to Colorado’s Medicaid program for personal and health data on undocumented immigrants who lawfully enrolled in the federal Emergency Medicaid program.”

    https://kdvr.com/news/politics/colorado-politics-news/not-a-tool-for-surveillance-groups-urge-colorados-medicaid-agency-to-deny-federal-data-request/

    I suppose from a broad view I’m not terribly enthused about expansions to the surveillance state, I’m just posting this because I get tired of hearing various claims to the tune of “undocumented newcomers aren’t even eligible for benefits, dummy”, “the undocumented immigrants are net taxpayers, racist”, etc.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    What if we have teams of experts fight to the death to decide policy?

    • Jarflax

      This would be fun, but it does raise the possibility of us ending up ruled by 21 year old Mike Tyson.

    • Nephilium

      Futurama did it.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    NYT headline:

    Appeals court lets Trump keep control of California national guard in LA

    That’s awfully white of them.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    it does raise the possibility of us ending up ruled by 21 year old Mike Tyson.

    Something something first 435 names in the phone book.

    • Jarflax

      Fair

    • juris imprudent

      If only our fellow citizens were content to not demand govt solve every problem (in their own little lives).

  31. The Late P Brooks

    I watched The Accountant last night. It was surprisingly good/entertaining.

    • kinnath

      I have watched in a couple of times. It’s a fun watch.

    • Mojeaux

      I liked that movie, but I think Anna Kendrick is just adorable.

    • slumbrew

      It’s one of those that I’ll start rewatching when flipping through channels.

      • slumbrew

        Someone here knows the actor who played the big, bearded thug at the farm IRL.

        His look when he gets casually whipped in the face with the belt makes me laugh each time; a great small bit of acting that perfectly conveys “What the fuck have I gotten into with this guy?!”

    • Nephilium

      Yeah, the first one was good. Still haven’t watched the second one that dropped recently.

      • kinnath

        I’ve watched several of the youtube clips of the sequel. They look interesting enough, but I worry that the film won’t be as fresh and unique as the first time around.

      • Nephilium

        kinnath:

        It’s on Prime, which we’ve already got. So it’s just a matter of blocking out the time to watch it.

      • kinnath

        Neph: Good to know. I assumed that the youtube vids were “marketing” for the movie and it was available somewhere. I just hadn’t gone looking for it yet. I may check it out.

  32. Mojeaux

    @db from dedthred re XY: This Chipotle store is the third one he’s opened. He’s usually sent to a store as a hammer.

    • Pope Jimbo

      That isn’t a bad role to be in. Is he working for a particular franchisee? Or for the corporate suits?

      When I was doing IoT stuff in the fast food industry, I met a guy who specialized in buying troubled locations from the corporate office and turning them around. His secret was a team of hammers. They’d fire everyone, hire a new crew and train them right. At the end of a year of so, they’d promote the best of the new crew to be the local manager and move on to the new location.

      He did very well for himself. His crew of hammers were young and liked their jobs.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of experts…

    As former chairs of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), we are deeply alarmed by the growing politicization of vaccines — a public health innovation that has saved 154 million lives globally. While politicization of science is not new, the escalating distrust in science across the political spectrum, and its intrusion into the vaccine ecosystem, now threatens the very infrastructure that has long protected Americans from infectious diseases.

    The shift in the vaccine debate — from disagreements over science to battles over access — is unprecedented. Without immediate action, we risk losing access to life-saving immunizations and the ability to respond to future public health threats. The damage, once done, may not be easily repaired.

    The politicization of science is bad when the wrong people do it.

    OBEY.

    • juris imprudent

      You can recommend anything you want, as long as you are liable for the consequences. How does that sound?

      • Sensei

        Something about Hell, a road and good intentions?

    • The Other Kevin

      “the growing politicization of vaccines”

      Where the hell were these people 5 years ago? Rhetorical question, of course.

      • juris imprudent

        This really goes back to the removal of liability for vaccine manufacturers in ’86.

    • B.P.

      This just might happen when the public health community pushes all of its chips in on calling something a vaccine, and demanding everyone take it, that turns out to not be a vaccine.

  34. Common Tater

    I don’t get Dave Smith’s argument that Trump should be impeached because we’re arming Israel. It’s been that way for decades. It’s like saying new manager of a MacDonalds should be fired because the ice cream machine is broken.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Stunning

    Elon Musk shared a stunning three-word reaction after his SpaceX rocket exploded into a massive fireball while being tested Wednesday night in Texas.

    The SpaceX owner seemed to joke about the failed test, writing, “Just a scratch” on X after the Starship suffered a “major anomaly” and shot up into flames, ruining yet another test for the space company.

    While SpaceX hopes their Starship will one day carry humans to the Moon and Mars, test flights in May, March, and January also ended in failures. The Starship program, SpaceX’s central project and the most powerful rocket to date, is also crucial to NASA’s Artemis program.

    I was expecting “Prep another one.”

    • kinnath

      I expected Musk to following the “failing is learning” philosophy on this one. He has clearly celebrated all the prior explosions.

    • juris imprudent

      JFC, British media doesn’t even get a British comic reference?

      • Suthenboy

        ‘Ol Blighty has brainwashed their population. People get thrown in prison there for telling jokes.