In light of the events of the past several days, I’ll stick to my usual themes of lighter links. Feel free to discuss them or whatever. It’s been a week.
For those of you who aren’t from here, maybe this will help you understand us freaks here in CLE.
Fuck Art Model, fuck the Ravens. Unfortunately, I think the bad guys will be trouncing the boys in orange and brown this Sunday.
For some reason, Sloopy isn’t interested in this.
Some games just have bad timing.
Like the cover picture, sometimes you drop your shitty article at the worst time.
For some reason, I see no issue with this.
At least some people seem to be learning.
Can we use this to lower the national debt? Or at least have a party?
No, we definitely need at least a dozen more. That’ll make things better.
Oh no. Well… anyways.
This case could wind up being interesting.
I think we disagree on who can and can’t afford such things.
I wonder who would be responsible for this?
I’m going to go with a bit of minor blasphemy with the cocktail choice today, So if you’re a purist, look away.
Calvados Sidecar
- 1 part (1 oz) aged Calvados (feel free to substitute in applejack if you would like)
- 1 part (1 oz) Cointreau
- 1 part (1 oz) lemon juice
A Sidecar is a classic drink, woefully under offered, and rarely ordered. It was originally considered a show of decadence and class. At least a couple of books I’ve read have theorized that the sugar rim came about as a way to show that wealth, as sugar wasn’t as cheap as it was today. In this case, we’ll rim this glass if you want, but with a cinnamon sugar blend. I start by putting a coupe glass or a Nick and Nora glass in the freezer, getting a small plate/saucer with cinnamon sugar on it. After this, you’ll fill a shaker with ice, add in your ingredients and shake until chilled. Pull the glass out of the freezer, rub a lemon juice around the rim, and gently press it into the cinnamon sugar. Strain your cocktail into it, and garnish with an orange or lemon twist, and enjoy.
With that, hug your loved ones, stay safe, and go Browns!
Becoming a Cleveland Brown’s fan? Hasn’t been there enough tragedy this week?
Tragedy requires a reversal of fortune. The Browns are merely dark comedy.
You’ll regret that when we fail to keep Susan locked under the 50 yard line one year!
She’ll pop up and interfere with the Browns receiving a last desperate onside kick leading to their opponent coming back to win in a miracle comeback and knock you out of the playoffs in your best season ever.
knock you out of the playoffs in your best season ever
Don’t confuse the Browns with the Vikes.
I’m old enough to remember the Drive and the Fumble.
I played on a flag football team with Mark Jackson, who made the touchdown reception in The Drive. Nice guy. Hella fast and elusive.
There’s always
nextTHIS year![No. Not really this year, I’m hoping for at least a winning season, and that feels out of reach.]
I’m surprised this wasn’t hidden in Neph’s links as a prayer for new Browns fans.
I miss Art Bell.
They must have run out of clones and alien dopplegangers.
… so now what?
Oh for the love of God, do NOT ask that now!
I do not understand you people.
We’re greedy and have a space laser, what’s to understand?
Have a delicious variant on a Sidecar?
I have zero of the ingredients.
UCS:
Not even lemon juice?
Not even that. When I need it for something I tend to just buy a lemon or two. It is not routinely used in my cookling.
Is it absolutely necessary to use a coupe or a Nick and Nora glass for a Sidecar?
As much as I like cocktails, I hate excessive glassware. I have pint glasses, old-fashioned glasses, and stemless cocktail glasses. That’s it.
Oh, and a pair of crystal Glencairn glasses for single-malt scotch…
…and a set of copper mugs for Bloody Marys and Moscow Mules.
Perhaps I should just give up.
EvilSheldon:
Not at all, but they’re the right size and shape for it. Off the top of my head, I’ve got piles of shaker glasses, various other beer glass styles, two different types of coupe glass, rocks glasses, Nick and Noras, cocktail glasses, Collins glasses, shot glasses, sample glasses, Irish coffee glasses, and probably at least a handful of other styles I’m forgetting about.
Add some salt.
The Ravens on Wednesday explained why they’re celebrating their 30th season since Art Modell moved the Browns to Baltimore with the Browns in town on Sunday.
Because they’re assholes. What did I win?
Browns Superbowl tickets. Good any year they make the game
I am in desperate need of a Zooms. I have a few bottles of Spotted Cow chilling in the fridge. Is 7pm CT when people normally get there?
Based on the notifications I get when someone opens the room up, it looks like it’s usually around 2130 Eastern or so that the first people stick around.
That’s when it “starts,” but you’ll find more people 60-90 minutes later.
I may need it too.
GHF’s operations have come under scrutiny as the US and Israeli-backed group has supplanted nearly every other major humanitarian organisation working in the Gaza Strip in what critics have called a deliberate effort to politicise humanitarian aid. The US government has disbursed at least $30m in grants to GHF.
If you’re stealing my money to do it, then yeah — it’s political. Where’s frickin’ DOGE when you need ’em?
Because aiding a terror regime is totally not political.
JFC do these people not hear themselves?
“Like the cover picture, sometimes you drop your shitty article at the worst time.”
Archive link not working, and I can’t seem to find it at Slate.
Working for me:
Improve the combat training for American youth.
“An error occurred during a connection to archive.ph. PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR”
There search engine sucks. I just pasted the Slate link.
“As a feminist movement, we have worked tirelessly to protect women and girls from the violence that is all too prevalent in their lives ”
No, you haven’t.
M -F trans says hi.
Besides putting men claiming to be trans in women’s prisons, MTF attacking women seems way less common than women attacking each other at airports.
Which is surprising given how easy it is for a man to claim “trans” and gain access to women.
And men say, “Okay.”
And feminists say, “NOOOO! YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE MORE AND HARDER!!!1!”
What was done to you personally, you malignant bitch?
Oh yeah, you’ve been catered to and privileged your entire life.
Fuck off.
“After what you’ve spent centuries doing to us?”
I only did it for maybe two centuries tops. Then my arms got tired.
” Was Bluesky Actually Celebrating the Death of Charlie Kirk?
Despite what right-wing influencers want you to believe, liberals actually hate political violence.”
OK, sure.
Liberals may, progs love it.
“I hate it when you make me force you to agree… you should just see reason! But I do it because I care!”
A Humpty Dumpty quote seems appropriate here.
Here’s the thing: men should be angry, and their anger is righteous, albeit misplaced. If the culture that raised you sees you as little more than a future agent of military, police, or corporate violence, it would be strange for you not to be angry. Men have been ignored. They have been brutalized. They have been told that it is their job to do the policing and soldiering and brutalizing on behalf of us all. They have endured grave gender-based violence, and rather than help them locate it, we’ve mostly told them they’re making the whole thing up.
I give up.
See, what men SHOULD be told is that their toxic masculinity is the source of all problems. Especially the white ones. That will make them feel better.
Feminists occasionally admit that there are big problems facing men, but they will NEVER admit that maybe, just maybe, some of the things the feminist movement has done have been really bad for men (and therefore society as a whole).
Feminism accepted the premise that God/evolution/whatever produced one good sex (women) and one useless, troublesome sex that should just learn to behave like the other (men). I’m not impressed by their half-hearted non-apology drivel like that article.
How come nobody has thought of this before??
Feminist:. men, what you really are is a wallet.
Pay up.
“Charlie Kirk’s Murder Illustrates How the Second Amendment Is Swallowing the First”
I feel a bit thankful that’s paywalled.
I can’t even imagine the stupid that is probably lurking beneath that.
The letter rightly lays out the radicalism of the DSA platform: abolishing prisons, disarming police, abolishing the U.S. Senate and nationalizing businesses, to name a few. But it implies that the danger is one of perception, not substance. As if the problem with these ideas is that voters might notice them.
It’ll be a nice surprise for them after the election.
>abolishing the U.S. Senate
Literally unconstitutional. I think it’s fair to say they are an extremist political party.
They’re called Happy Camps now.
“It has also enraged members of the MAGA right, and they are now demanding revenge—not just on Kirk’s killer, but on Democrats, liberal advocacy organizations, the news media, and progressives more broadly. We are still in the early hours after this appalling killing. But many conservatives are trying to make this into their Reichstag fire: the moment the movement has been waiting for to use as a pretext to suspend democratic rules, crush its opponents, and put itself fully in charge.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/09/charlie-kirk-dead-trump-is-ready-for-authoritarianism.html
Reichstag fire? Maybe stop comparing Trump to Hitler.
“All of this is exacerbated by social media, which elevates the most outrageous takes to stoke collective rage. We see this happening in real time with the Kirk killing: While elected Democrats and prominent liberals were nearly uniform in condemning the violence, there were of course a smattering of random X accounts, left-wing agitators, and likely more than a few bots run out of nations with an interest in destabilizing American society who took the opportunity to mock or even justify Kirk’s murder; those deplorable comments were then used as evidence that “the left” was celebrating his death. Off social media, I would bet that normal Americans of all political stripes were appalled and saddened by this killing. But the algorithmically encouraged cruelty gave each side the ability to expediently caricature its opponents and assign views to the worst people on the internet.”
True, some of them were bots. However, there is no rightwing antifa.
Team Blue spent decades saying all Republicans are Todd Akin.
Fuck their hypocrisy.
Frankly Salon… I don’t give a shit.
Er Slate… mixing up my S-hole liberal web sites apparently.
What a load of horseshit. Even the “moderate” liberals while not celebrating it are pushing that narrative that both sides are equally guilty of dangerous rhetoric, and saying Kirk was “divisive” , implying he had it coming.
Fuck them all.
Even if it was “a smattering of…leftwing agitators and…bots”, there are a lot of “normal” leftists repeating the bullshit. I know of a doctor in Denver and a retired public defender now living in Hawaii who’ve both reposted utter crap regarding Kirk. Another FB friend, a lawyer in OK, said we needed to start having civil discussions. I couldn’t help but point out that Kirk was doing exactly that when he was killed.
“We didn’t do anything, just minding our own business and Trump turned into a fascist dictator just like we predicted.”
These people are as predictable as they are tiresome.
I did the thing and went on Facebook yesterday. There were several posts condemning political violence, full stop. Good. There were a handful that talked about Kirk being divisive, and a few condemning him outright. This is not made up, or bots.
Uh….
Those “democratic rules” were suspended by a 30-06 to the neck of a guy talking.
GTFO, bitch. We’re not waiting for something do we can suspend the rules, we’re reacting to you having just suspended them.
You can light a planet with that much projection.
So I arranged a surprise for the wife last weekend. We flew into Grand Rapids, then a quick rental car ride took us here.
Just before sunset, we each got a glass of fresh cider and boarded a tractor-pulled trailer for a hayride, just staring at the trees for nearly an hour.
And now I’m in trouble. Apparently this is not the “apple watch” she was hoping for.
Ok… ya got me with that one, Shpip… one hearty laugh, shaking to my core.
When Mr. Shpip posts a serious comment – stop looking incredulous, it happens sometimes – I end up spending 20 minutes trying to find the pun. Hmm, maybe there are no serious comments and I’m just too M-O-O-N, that spells dumb.
You’re supposed to keep the branch bearing fruit when you reply to a pun! It’s crisper and more delicious that way.
Good, it’s not just me.
Same here. That’s part of his unique charm.
Oh, how I laughed:
How the Dune Universe sounds to an outsider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqKICvQYOY
LOL
“On Planet Dune, humans discover Super Adderall”
“They have endured grave gender-based violence,”
Why didn’t I know that? So 20 years of faking Macho Man.
I must have slept through the part of brutalizing. I remember days of Police Call though, I was well trained in that.
Can we stop scratching our heads and pretending we do not know how America became a nation of such violence? Can we stop acting surprised when, after raising our boys as child soldiers, their violence turns back against us? Can we own up to the truth: that we cannot ask boys to conceptualize ruthlessly killing faraway brown people, then reasonably expect them to turn it off when they come home? That we cannot raise boys to fantasize about guns and war throughout their childhood, then act surprised when they shoot up a school? That we cannot raise our boys to be fine with abusing Afghani prisoners, then expect them not to abuse us, too?
As a feminist movement, it’s high time we pick a lane. It’s time we take a stand with veterans and against the military. It’s time we declare that we’re no longer OK living in a violent world. We must decide that the dignity and bodily autonomy of men and boys matter to us enough to fight for them. We must rage against the myriad institutions that insist on making murderers out of our little boys. As a feminist movement, we must categorically decry war, in all its forms.
Good golly, when was this written? I’m having flashbacks to Viet Nam.
Also, isn’t Jacob being a little pushy with the mansplaining about what feminism should or should not be?
Look, once all the men start acting like women things will be perfectly fine.
We’re trying. I mean, we’ve been competing on their swim teams and volleyball teams, hanging around in their bathrooms, and, some of us, proudly put on their underwear. Next, we need to work on knocking each other down to get at the black Friday merchandise, sniping at each other about our choice of footwear, picking fights they have to finish for us, making them pay for everything, and unlearning how to park a car. Then it will be heaven on earth.
Just pump them full of hormones and cut off their junk, and we will have our utopia.
Alice Sheldon wrote a novella about what TOK is describing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_Houston,_Do_You_Read%3F
I found it very heavy-handed. The male characters were cardboard cutouts of male tropes.
You just go ahead and move to your local CHAZ/CHOP, sing kumbaya and advocate for no police, soldiers or anything else… and tell us how that works out for you, idiot.
Men biologically have the strength and endurance to defend the tribe. That’s why it is their role. That you disagree with the current tribe’s foreign policy over the last couple of decades doesn’t mean you don’t still need protection from enemies foreign and domestic.
Hell (and I’m probably going there for even saying this) — go ride the fucking Charlotte train for a while and tell us how THAT works out for you, dumbass. Your “all feminine is inherently peaceful and flowers and rainbows and unicorns if it wasn’t disrupted by those yucky boys who we can’t train to act like girls!” bullshit was tiresome before… after the past couple of weeks — I just think your bug-fuck nuts or irredeemably stupid. So go found your fucking commune of your perfect society and fuck the hell right off trying to emasculate what’s left of American boys.
And maybe I’ll remember to spell “you’re” properly when ranting or to at least proofread before submit as long as I’m talking about utopian scenarios that apparently won’t happen.
Sigh.
feminine is inherently peaceful
Remind me again of who frequently did the torturing amongst the noble savages?
The Female of the Species
WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other’s tale—
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.
She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.
She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.
Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!
So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.
And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Mal
Or…
“When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up your remains,
Just roll on your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier…”
(Best I can do from memory.)
“brown people”
Oh just fuck off already.
The Calvados Sidecar looks delicious.
The Salvadoran president said the floating packages were valued at $35 million.
With inflation, that’s not even real money.
While it doesn’t quite feel like Fall yet here, there are times that leaning into the season is worth it. While flipping through options I did stumble across a new (to me) recipe that will likely be included next week. The fact I had the ingredients on hand just made it a better little happenstance.
Bill OReily just called fascism “right wing” on Hannity.
What a tard.
Hannity to his credit called him on it and said it was socialism.
Bill was a high school history teacher. The rot starts in government (and most private schools whose teachers come out of the same pipeline) schools.
Homeschool.
Do not online school, it’s the same drivel.
“Bill was a high school history teacher”
So was Tim Walz, what a coincidence
Same pipeline.
Generations of progressives teaching the next generation in hopes they convert your kids.
The New Yorker has too many rules about who may read their content.
There were three or four links tonight that I simply tapped out of because of popups and blocks, checkbox “I’m a human”, etc.
Woo-hoo! Just received notification that it’s time to complete my annual Title IX training.
Mine is like two months late.
Well, you fired my closest coworker and my boss. Come at me bruh.
There was a new Nintendo Direct today. I must watch it later.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tWIEv_aksvo
I watched it earlier. The last reveal made me happy.
Good grief, an hour??
Who has time for that?
I find that the men vs women survival video both cheers me up and is an antidote to the usual drivel:
gist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNApPTtUKoQ
director’s cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqkzcVJq4b4
That’s awesome.
So, Slate says we should roll over show our belly, dont resist being victimized and leave our keys by the door.
The Guardian wants us to empathize with a murder death cult.
The gun grabbers want their victims disarmed.
I am seeing a pattern here.
The solution to every problem is always to do what they are pimping. Even when they are the cause of the problem.
Question – If someone puts Red Diesel in a vehicle/machine and uses it for a while on their farm, then sells the hardware – would the letter of the law require the tank be drained if the new owner is using it in the wild instead of on a farm?
For a practical matter, they only check trucks that require weigh stations that wouldn’t be used on a farm. No one checks pick-ups.
I understand that for all intents and purposes the risk of discovery is nil, I was just sent down the train of thought watching farmcraft on youtube.
It’s very important to make sure the fuel taxes are collected! Pay no attention to the EVs driving by.
Ive heard horror stories of the weigh station weenies chasing down pickups with slip tanks in the bed and checking them.
Likewise. Ive heard tell (primarily in the west/SW) pickups and RVs are often pulled over and checked. Or “dipped”.
I’ve never seen an open weigh station.
Although, to be honest, the only (always closed) one I can remember was on I-91 in Vermont.
It would affect the buyer if he got caught using it on the road.
The seller should tell the buyer what’s in there, but I can’t see that the seller has a responsibility to drain it.
My dumptruck was full of red fuel when I bought it from a fire district, of course the FD was exempt from road tax, they are heros afterall.
I cringed everytime I drove past the temporary weigh station on my way into town until I cycled several tanks of yellow fuel through it.
I have had my work truck dipped in MT. They ran me through the wringer at a temp weigh station. Passed except one thing the guy didn’t like in my log book. Fuckers held me up for almost four hours.
Shipping container houses in NH
Shipping-container homes are certainly more rare and definitely unique.
There is a stunning architectural masterpiece in Winchester set on more than 140 acres with mountain views of New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont and even New York. The views from the balconies are breathtaking.
New Hampshire Chronicle took a tour with Coldwell Banker Realty realtor Susanna Corriveau.
“This is one of the most unique properties in all of New England and I’ll tell you why,” she said. “It has been built and crafted from 15 retrofit shipping containers.”
The home is three levels for more than 5,000 square feet of living space. It’s on the market for more than $5 million.
That’s a lot of welding, cutting and painting.
I have a couple 20’ containers. Condensation is a major issue. That place looks more like it’s sided in disassembled containers than built out of them. Cool look though.
Vegas has an area a bit outside Downtown (not the Strip) called the Container Park. It’s a little shopping/dining/drinking area that’s built out of old storage containers. Most of the shops are either a single or double container. It’s well worth checking out, and has a killer cocktail bar in it.
I think that was in the Amazon show Bosch. Looked cool.
What a load of horseshit. Even the “moderate” liberals while not celebrating it are pushing that narrative that both sides are equally guilty of dangerous rhetoric, and saying Kirk was “divisive” , implying he had it coming.
Shedding crocodile tears over the polarization and divisiveness with which civil society has somehow or other been afflicted.
It’s tragic, but…
“Even the “moderate” liberals”
Disagree, should be “some” moderate liberals. Every group has its assholes and crazies but they stand out and skew the picture. Most moderate libs aren’t happy with this.
I’ll trade your “some” for “many” and then we agree.
Most moderate libs aren’t happy with this.
They may not be happy with it, but they’re also not even remotely capable of distancing themselves from the ghouls who are happy with it. I’ve seen more “whatabout” and “both sides” and blame shifting and even victim blaming from the moderate left today than I care to recount. They have no idea how to say “no, these lunatics don’t represent us.” They haven’t had to apologize in decades.
And moreover, I wouldn’t believe them anyway.
fuck the Ravens
Generally never was a fan of the Ravens, always struck me as a bit ‘thuggish’ in their composition. And Baltimore. What more do need that really?
But if the Lamar Jackson meme/statement going around is accurate, I’m willing to cut them a bit of slack for now.
They kind of took over the dirty play mantle from Oakland, but the AFC North is not exactly the cleanest division. Looking at you Pittsburgh!
**franticly waves at Vontaze Burfict to get back in the cellar, and not cloud the narrative with unpleasant facts
They. Took. Our. Team. And even worse, went to a Super Bowl with them.
That pisses my boss off to no end.
To be fair, Modell did go with them, so it wasn’t all bad.
Looks at the ownership now.
Nevermind, sorry to interrupt your pain. I’ll go back to my own.
Neph, Supernova festival is starting today.
Pretty good line up, if VA beach wasn’t such a PITA to get to by car we might have gone again this year.
My buddy is there peddling his wares.
Yep, contemplating dropping the $20 for the livestream.
Now their are videos of libs who got fired for celebrating Kirk’s assassination? This funny but hard to believe.
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966588333565309247
Please dear god let that be a parody. You can’t be a man and put something like that out in public if it’s real. Can you?
We can sure as hell hope that it’s parody, but ya never know… Social media is, after all, the stadium of the Histrionic Olympics.
(Histriolympics? Olymprionics? Histrolympionics?)
No job leads to less money leads to less food leads to weight loss. They might have saved that guy’s life.
When you have been entirely insulated from consequences in your life, the first actual retribution you experience is probably hard to take. Witness a toddler told no for the first time.
I recognize the guy from earlier today on examples of celebrations of Kirk’s murder. He was the communications director for some sports organization. The Panthers? Whoever that is.
That doesnt mean that video is not AI generated.
That was the guy they had communicating for an NFL team? I’m sure the public crying will gain him the respect of the players and staff of the team.
The NFL is a hotbed of DEI and crybabies.
Just gonna say….Academia has created people who think murder, violence, destruction in the service of your ideology is moral. The long march through the institutions starts and ends with Academia. We have to take it back.
Hint: Government schools and government media cannot exist in a free country.
Disagree, should be “some” moderate liberals. Every group has its assholes and crazies but they stand out and skew the picture. Most moderate libs aren’t happy with this.
I would say the vast majority of “moderate liberals” would profess to be baffled by the notion that they bear any responsibility for political polarization. They’re just telling it like it is.
Are they happy about Kirk? I think not, but I also think they are in large part quite rightly reacting to the practical implications.
I would say the vast majority of “moderate liberals” would profess to be baffled by the notion that they bear any responsibility for political polarization. They’re just telling it like it is.
I really, really rack my brains to try and see the other POV on things. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can’t.
After January 6th, a lot of self-described liberals were posting those dumb “pictures of text” things on social media saying stuff like, “If you support the Republican Party after today, we are no longer fellow Americans: You are an insurrectionist working in support of a terrorist organization and should be treated as such. The time for discussion and debate is over.”
I mean, what is that other than a deliberate and explicit dive into polarization?
They are the good guys. And good guys by definition cannot be insurrectionists, traitors, celebrators of mass murder, bigots, etc. No matter what they do or say. Whereas anyone who disagrees with them are.
The girlfriend got her first hand experience of the tolerance of progressives back near the end of 2020/beginning of 2021. In one of the local board game groups she was in on Facebook, she posted an event. Several members of the group started attacking her for being so cavalier by posting an event, since the ‘vid was still killing grandparents everywhere. How dare she risk everyone’s health and life for something so meaningless.
Others in the group backed her and pointed out the very obvious thing, “If you’re worried, you don’t have to fucking go.” There were a lot of bridges burned that weekend.
The difference is stark.
Fake victim OD’s and dies in police custody : Left uses excuse to work themselves into a lather, hires armies of protesters and agitators, butns down half of the country.
Actual peaceful standard bearer for liberty murdered in cold blood to send a message : Conservatives convene prayer vigils and come together.
I forgot to add that in the second case the leftists are giddy with joy at the murder loudly proclaiming that publicly.
Good day, all. And it is a good day. Evan isn’t the only Glib around here with a new ride.
Is that the new ranger?
Yes, 2025 Ranger Lariat.
I wonder if any of the major manufacturers will ever make a mini truck again.
All the ‘small’ pickups are 4/5 size like the Jeep pickups were.
@ Threedoor:
Probably not until they kill the CAFE Standards that made it unprofitable to produce small trucks:
https://youtu.be/azI3nqrHEXM?si=FaztAYNNfO4is2-L
I know, I know, a government policy doing the opposite of its stated goal? I’m here for any emotional support you guys may need as you recover from the shock and trauma of this disturbing revelation.
Akira, CAFE standards and the pedestrian crash standards, and bending to the Eurozone car standards, and DEF/DPF…
Yea you’re right, there’s more than one head on that monster.
I want a small-ish truck so bad I’m probably going to look at early 2010s model Toyotas (before they turned into behemoths).
I know people have reasons for wanting bigger trucks, and Grumbletarian’s ranger looks pretty sharp, but all I need is to get some lumber and sheets of plywood back from the store and occasionally move a piece of furniture. I don’t need to go off road or seat six people in it.
*high-five* Nice! Legit, they’re about the same color. And they both have beds in the back! Like Twin-Cars! “Twincs!” (It’ll catch on!)
Shiny!
Excellent
Thinking about feminists, and evil male oppression and the helplessness of women, this popped into my head. There was a story a while back about a “missing person” cold case in Indiana, I think. woman disappeared from her home town thirty or so years ago. Somehow or other, she was discovered to be living quietly and happily fifteen hundred miles away. Married, mother, grandmother.
She got sick of putting up with her boyfriend’s shit and one day she hopped a bus out of town. How excruciatingly unfeminist.
Redditors should not be allowed to be anonymous. https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1ne8f9e/eli5_what_did_charlie_kirk_do_that_was_christian/
Yes. Yes they should. Anonymous speech is still speech.
Call it my gut reaction.
I’d say the original question is partly fair. The responses are simply box-checking.
I was trying to figure out what sect/denomination Kirk was affiliated, wokapedia told me “Christian nationalism,” then I opened the Reddit link.
Ok, fair question. Fair answer: He was the best kind. He advocated sound principles and did not hammer on the Jesus bit. In his personal life he did adhere to christian ideas, he just didnt push them too hard on others.
I think that confused the redditors Suthen
What I was getting at is that, for me, a Christian martyr, is someone who is killed because of their faith. Kirk was a Christian and was murdered but I don’t think he was murdered because he was a Christian.
Or, to give a hypothetical: say someone’s working at some kind of Christian mission in a bad part of town. Another person comes in and kills the first person because of the mission work they’re doing. Martyr. OTOH, if that same person gets in their car after finishing a night’s work, heads home, gets carjacked and killed I don’t think they’ve been martyred. And yes, I realize there is some pedantic shit in there, but to me it’s important.
Ideas stand on their own merit. Speakers are irrelevant.
This was the premise in an episode of that Aaron Sorkin brainfart known as The Newsroom: everyone has to use their real name online. This was the idea of his strawman conservative(?).
related clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTjMqda19wk
He likes to write “swashbuckingly, you see. Yes, he actually said that.
Reddit is worse than late-teens Tumblr when it comes to spreading the virus…
I’ve seen posts on Reddit that make excuses for the death toll of Stalin because:
– “Most of those deaths were starvation, disease, or from the cold, not from deliberate extermination”
– “There were a lot of people in the Soviet Union trying to undermine the system from within; what else was a leader supposed to do??”
– “They had a lot of problems, but they were years ahead of the US on women’s rights!”
And it just stays up. Pretty sure you’d be banned in a matter of milliseconds if you said anything remotely like that about the Holocaust.
“It was a long time ago, and it never happened anyway.”
-old Soviet joke/excuse
From Reddit:
The fact that this religion in this country has degenerated into a white nationalist cult, that countless millions of Christians celebrate his life and canonizing such an evil man, who literally spent his last moments advocating hatred including all you’ve said….shows what the religion has become.
Just telling it like it is.
What could legit start Civil War 2? The Kirk reactions, combined with my family’s when Trump was shot, caused a thought to burst in, and sorry for not keeping it light. How to start a real Civil War 2? Were Trump *successfully* assassinated, the Teams’ rivaling responses could do the trick. Not militarily, but a legitimate social (and political, cultural, global…) explosion.
My family was openly upset the shooter failed. True Believers, they.
Yeiks.
…that was not edited with care.
On the ‘we live in a fascistic, nightmare realm,’ it’d be fun to teleport back just a bit ago so they could see how fucking *good* shit is now. (They would not see, nor realize.) Watching a Netflix show about the Torso Killer in ’70s NYC. Just showing folk how nuts shit was back then would be pleasing. They really are The Demoralized: No amount of truth and reality will do. Even if I *could* open those blinds, they aren’t able to understand this reality. They’ve invested far too much of *themselves* into the Ideology.
On the positive side, Cubs have won three straight! *tear rolls with realization..* Even though the Brewers have *lost* three in a row, we’re still back 5 in the division. They came out of nowhere. And we’re still 20+ over .500! Bastards. (Is that positive? Uh. Well, we’re leading the WC! It’s like Bro’s failed Firsts. We can still pretend we win! We’re non-binary winners! Like Ohtani’s a non-binary player! And the Milwaukee /ATL Braves are *certainly* a non-binary team! WHEEE!
God, I hate that fucking word. It’s nonsensical and they fucking know it. That people play along is outrageous, and reveals how stupid our social impulses and get-along-ism often is. And DAMN did that word take off! Fuck. One obvious, not-even trying dude at work introduced himself as “Jenny, she/her.” I don’t work directly with it, but I’d go out of my way to avoid using any pronouns at all if I did. I’d still use ‘Jenny,’ tho it’s never come up. (Purposefully poking? Not my style. Certainly not at work.)
I tend to think that we’re still pretty far off from any large-scale fighting. Now, if Kirk’s assassination kicked off some counter-assassination of a big Leftist figure and it turned into a tit-for-tat situation, that might prompt the FedGov to step in with force and possibly stimulate some armed resistance. Hopefully not.
The average American is still living far too comfortably. Yea, things have gotten tight with inflation, but most people still have more than enough to eat, a big cozy couch, and a bunch of streaming services to choose from on their gigantic TV. There really has been a trend towards indulgence and laziness with a simultaneous eschewing of virtues, sacrifice, and hard work. You really need those three latter things in huge amounts if you want to live the nerve-racking life of a resistance fighter.
And as polarized as the US population is, there’s no neat geographical boundary. Many big cities are heavily Leftist, but it’s still nowhere near unanimous, and they’re surrounded by rural areas that are much more Right. A conflict like that in the US would probably resemble the Troubles in Ireland more than our previous Civil War.
I share your sentiment. “The average American is still living far too comfortably.” <– For the exact same reason.
Ever the optimist. Sigh. China v World *will* happen. Eventually. I can't see how it won't. We're *far* too comfortable for a No Shit War. I hope it's post-ev in 70yrs. (Hey. Optimism flows, toots. No euphemism.)
I saw a clip of Kirk saying (paraphrased) that Leviticus 19 says love your neighbor and Leviticus 18 says kill homosexuals. He was fine with both and saw no contradiction. I don’t think he would have ever killed, but it’s clear he thought homosexuality was wrong and thus OK to outlaw. He was a conservative Christian and had views typical of one. That doesn’t make him a bad guy, but it doesn’t automatically make him right either. Neither does getting murdered automatically make him right or good, heinous and unjust as that was.
Besides being good businessman, husband, and father, he was a skilled and fair advocate for his cause. No good deed goes unpunished. RIP.
Libertarians and Christian conservatives have some overlap on some issues: guns, school choice, taxes, spending are a few. I’ll take my friends where I can get them. I registered as a Republican in FL as part of my 2024 presidential campaign. I wonder how many people voted for me.
I always saw Leviticus as rules for those who were members of the faith, you submit to the faith and its rules, the rules are not for outsiders of the faith.
I am glad that modern Christians ignore or reinterpret many things the Bible says. That is a mark of good judgement and common sense. I guess Peter should get the credit since he kicked things off by saying all the diet rules are optional.
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Acts 10:9-16
New International Version
Peter’s Vision
9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
***
Derp, diet rules were part of what the blood of Christ fufilled.
He didn’t sanctify homosexuality, in the red letter words of Christ he forbade it. Corinthians further forbids it.
I am not the best biblical scholar but in Leviticus God said homosexuals would be cut off from their people, meaning cast out. Not murdered. Any scholars out there?
No it calls for their death
It wouldn’t be murder.
It’s a punishment.
Do you mean the clip Stephen King got suckered into propagating?
https://thatparkplace.com/stephen-king-caught-spreading-false-claim-about-charlie-kirk-and-apologizes/
I would think the clip with the conservative gay would include him stating I want you in jail if that’s how he felt about homosexuality. Instead he said your identity shouldn’t be wrapped in your sexuality. I don’t agree with your lifestyle, but you’re a human being of worth
That’s the clip I saw. Never saw the other one.
Like I said, I am glad that modern Christians ignore or reinterpret many things the Bible says.
We shouldn’t Derp.
That’s on those that choose to believe.
We’ll be judged for our hypocrisy.
The hypocrisy of rich preachers bothers me somewhat, but capitalism and the prosperity it brings requires ignoring Christ’s admonishments about being rich and storing up treasure.
Christianity is a civilizing force except when it isn’t.
Heheheh. A moment of mirth:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna230452