Let The Right One In

by | Jul 9, 2026 | Big Government, Canada, Travel | 132 comments

Or how Pie obtained an Americaneze Visa.

I got my first Visa in university from the Commercial Bank of Romania to get my scholarship moneys. But this is not that kind of visa; this is the one which allows people to visit the distant shores of the U S of A.

So how did this come to pass? You are probably wondering how i ended up in this situation. It started when, after years of lurking on reason dot com, I ill-advisedly decided to create a user on glibertarians dot com and started commenting and even writing. And the rest, as they say, is whatever they say the rest is.

How does one from the less than civilized parts of civilized Europe go about these sort of things? Well I had my bio-metric passport made in 2021 and it is good till 2031 so I had that sorted. While most of my travels in the EU did not require a passport, it was useful to cut the line at the airport by using the automatic passport control, which required such a passport. Now even that is no longer necessary, since Romania is in Schengen and there is no passport control. I have used the passport to travel to the lands of the savage Scots post brexit.

In order to Americanize myself, first I had to fill in the DS-160 form online, on one of the more primitive sites in the world wide web. This took about an hour or so and required a picture of specific dimensions. To save myself the trouble, I paid 30 lei to a website where one uploaded a selfie and it is made to the exact specifications of the US Government. The form is long and full of bullshit. I gave a bunch of information about myself, my job, my education, my family, my background, lack of criminal record, et cetera. I filled in my various social media platforms, I suppose to make sure I do not say mean things about the USA. I clicked endless check boxes saying that no, I am not in organized crime, I am not a terrorist, my family is none of those things either. I do not plan to smuggle drugs or traffic people in the US. I do not intend to commit crime there. Indeed, I did not engage in genocide, ethnic cleansing, war crimes. I certainly did not force women to undergo abortion or sterilization against their will. And so on and so forth. Having done all that, I submitted the form and got my confirmation which I had to print out. Step one done.

Using the form Confirmation number, I went on a different shitty site and programmed my interview. This was in two stages, first I had to pay the 180 dollars American fee, and when the fee was processed I managed to secure an appointment for about 2 weeks in the future, at 9 15. Now we wait. The paying online was one improvement from a few years ago, when you had to physically go to a branch of Banca Transilvania to pay.

On the faithful day, I arrived at the US embassy in Bucharest. This is rather inconvenient as it is a bit far outside the city and it is hard to get there via public transport. No matter, I used my car and found parking a few minutes walk away. I left all electronic devices including my phone in the car and went to the embassy with a folder of paperwork I needed and the passport. When I arrived at 8 55, I found out that while the US embassy knows how to take reservations, they don’t know how to hold reservations. I said I had an appointment for 9 15 and I was dully directed towards a line with the information that it is basically first come first serve and i should wait in line. The line moved fairly reasonably I guess, thought people with small children were directed to go to the front.

George Carlin: “we would like to pre-board those passengers traveling with small children.” Well what about those passengers traveling with large children? Suppose you have a two year-old with a pituitary disorder! You know, a six-foot infant with an oversized head, the kind of kids you see in the National Inquirer all the time.

Anyway the line was in the sun during a heatwave and though just 9 in the morning, it was already above 30C and the sun was hot. But wait in line I did. After a while, about 3 at a time, we were let in the embassy. The first time in an inner courtyard to wait some more. This time there was a roof and seating and some large fans on the ceiling. Also in the vein of the American free water concept, a fountain of cold filtered water to drink. Here I think I lost a couple of places in line because moving to the next stage did not seem to respect the exact order of arrival and you had to be on your toes to get in front. After waiting some time we were let in, in groups of 20 in the actual embassy. There we waited in line number 3 for someone to see our appointment paperwork. After that we waited in line number 4 to have our passport validated. Good passport in hand we waited in line number 5 to get our fingerprints taken. Finally I got to wait in line number 6 for the actual interview. I had thought it was in some private room for each but not, just a line of windows where you could hear other people answering.

I finally got my turn and talked to some American dude there about who I am, where I am going, my job and how the semiconductor industry is doing well, if I have friends or relatives in the US and so one. I was a fairly friendly chat rather than interrogation and after 3 minutes or so I was informed my visa was approved and I will get my passport back in two to four business days with the visa applied. Overall I was back at the car at 9 55 so an hour total at the embassy. I feel for someone low risk like me this could be done online, like that proverbial meeting that could have been an email. I believe that to renew the visa I do not need to physically go to the embassy, but in 10 years maybe we are let back in the visa waiver thing.

I actually got an email the same day that my passport is ready and I can pick it up the next day. Fortunately the pickup spot is in the city conveniently close to me so pickup is not hard. FUN FACT: the only place for passport pickup, if you do not want it by courier, is at a place called VFS Global which outsources visa and paperwork stuff for various governments. The Bucharest office does things for Canada and it is based in Montreal Square, Bucharest in a building called the world trade center. OK maybe not that fun, you had to be there kind of a thing. Aaaanyhooo…

Now that the visa is out of the way, I have to see where it gets me. Either way you bunch of bastards are officially on notice. You need to treat me with more respect around here cause as of now, on a moments notice, I can get on a plane, fly to the States, find out where you live and kick your sue* you for emotional damage.

*Can anyone recommend a good lawyer?

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PieInTheSky

PieInTheSky

Mind your own business you nosy buggers

132 Comments

  1. PieInTheSky

    I have become unpleasantly aware of how idiotic the Canadian taxes are if one plans to bring a few bottles of beverage in the country. what the fuck. lame and gay. i traveled all over Europe with my luggage full of booze and no one said nothing.

    • PieInTheSky

      I shall still attemt to get some whisky from the US back to Canadia though and I will need some glib help/advice from one who would travel to the gulch

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Just remember, Pie, if you ask for a lawyer, they will bring you an avocado.

      • Not Adahn

        The land border duty free shops are awesome

  2. Tres Cool

    whaddup doh’

    /live from a hazardous waste incinerator in NE Ohio

    • rhywun

      Live from NYC 23rd Street

      • (((Jarflax

        Are you guys having a smelly surroundings contest?

      • rhywun

        Lol

      • Sensei

        Depending on the Ave you are within blocks of me right now.

      • rhywun

        I am walking down the High Line so 10th Ave.

      • Sensei

        I’m over on the east side!

        So a ways away!

      • Tres Cool

        Next week I’ll be doing a sewage sludge incinerator. Smells more like Philly than NYC.

      • R C Dean

        So a ways away!

        Like, a whole mile?

      • Threedoor

        The neighborhood is almost 100 yards long and I can hear lawn mowers!

      • Sensei

        Like, a whole mile?

        You don’t even discuss it that way. It’s always around 20 minutes.

        20 minute walk
        20 minute subway
        20 minute taxi

        It’s funny but true – it’s either minutes away or like 20 minutes in Manhattan.

      • rhywun

        Like, a whole mile?

        Pretty much.

        I usually count in blocks.

        Now I am sitting in the main public library. Had to bust a lung getting up to the third floor but the reward is a nice cool quiet place to sit and glib.

      • rhywun

        Yup.

        No Bryant Park today… the weather is disgusting. Hot and humid.

  3. Brochettaward

    They’re just letting anyone in these days still, huh?

    • PieInTheSky

      only the classiest of people.

      • Brochettaward

        I hope you get detained by ICE. Not placed in the section with the browns, but at least the one for the white immigrants.

  4. PieInTheSky

    in the end i did decided rent a car and try driving cause there were no better options.

    • Brochettaward

      That really is the American way. It’s too big of a place and public transport is for the poors. And American poors are violent poors in general as you’ve observed even from over there.

      • trshmnstr

        This.

        Uber is viable for travel within the neighborhood or suburb.

        Rental car for metropolitan up to regional travel.

        Airplane for inter-regional travel unless you want to do a road trip.

      • rhywun

        NYC is somewhat different from the rest of America. Both rich and poor pack the trains and buses. Except the super-rich – they have limo drivers.

      • R C Dean

        NYC is somewhat different from the rest of America.

        Yes. Yes, it is.

  5. kinnath

    Welcome to the US of A!

  6. Fourscore

    You are a more patient person than I, Mr Pie

    I can understand what the illegals do what they do.

    Too early for HH, too bad. Good that you have a chance to visit the US and better still meet some of the Glibs.

  7. Gender Traitor

    Anyway the line was in the sun

    That was a test unique to your country. Any applicants who survived had gotten over the first hurdle.

  8. (((Jarflax

    I do not plan to smuggle drugs or traffic people in the US. I do not intend to commit crime there. Indeed, I did not engage in genocide, ethnic cleansing, war crimes. I certainly did not force women to undergo abortion or sterilization against their will.

    You are much more boring than I had imagined.

  9. Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

    Welcome to Costco America. I love you.

  10. Drake

    Looking forward to Pie’s Grand American tour.

    • PieInTheSky

      3 days is not that grand but maybe next year

      • (((Jarflax

        Pie’s American Long Weekend doesn’t have the same impact.

      • PieInTheSky

        Weekend at Oldman’s

      • (((Jarflax

        Are you picking up Mitch on the way?

      • PieInTheSky

        Mitch McConnell ? no room in the car

      • (((Jarflax

        Strap him in a chair on the roof Vacation style

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Or how Pie obtained an Americaneze Visa.

    Undead mind control?

  12. rhywun

    Sounds a lot like getting my visa to visit China only way more onerous and more lines.

    • PieInTheSky

      I mean the lines could be seen as one line divided in steps…

      • rhywun

        I think it was a couple lines and the briefest of chats at a window. Embassy also inconveniently located on like 12th Ave. Manhattan.

      • Fourscore

        The missus got one of the quick check in line cards a few years ago. The interview was quite long (no one else waiting) and the interviewer was enjoying the conversation. I could hear them laughing. Mrs F said the interview lasted a couple minutes but the gov guy was more interested in Viet Nam and her travels than worrying about her having been an illegal.

        Had to go to the border crossing at International Falls for the interview.

  13. Toxteth O'Grady

    Congratulations, Pie. Meant sincerely.

    Thank you, Chafed!

    Y’all want an essay, should I live that long?

  14. The Late P Brooks

    in the end i did decided rent a car and try driving cause there were no better options.

    USA! USA!

  15. Brochettaward

    I had argued in the past that a lot of CTE research is kind of bunk. They attribute things like elevated risk of suicide to CTE, yet when you look at the population of NFL players and compare it to the general population and similar demographics it’s lower. That was the case for most of the symptoms I found ascribed to it based on small sample sizes.

    A new study has at least answered my complaints a bit. NFL players are 3-4x as likely to suffer dementia and Parkinson’s than the general pop.

    Of course, NFL players also live longer than the average person. I still find the entire narrative that’s been crafted here a bit…puzzling. The argument is the NFL downplayed the risk of concussions. It’s not even clear that concussions are necessarily where most of the damage is done with regards to CTE. CTE itself has been observed in individuals who had no real symptoms ascribed to it. In short, it’s brain scarring that can maybe lead to elevated risks of certain things.

    But we all always knew that taking repeated blows to the head was a bad thing. Science has simply named it and observed the mechanisms and some retired NFL players cashed in from it. And the media that rakes in money covering the sport, but which finds it offensive to their sensibilities because of its violent nature were all too happy to play the role of moral scold.

    And then you have the dopey fans who sit there and pretend to care about CTE and player safety. Playing American football will never be *safe.* in anyway shape or form. You could say they could eliminate the hitting, but CTE has been observed in high rates in the brains of female soccer players. Which makes me laugh because in high school I heard the trainer mock that group because they were the ones who were most likely to come in complaining about being hurt. But I digress…

    There’s this class of fan that cheers on safety measures because they have convinced themselves its the right thing to do. Then when the guys who play the actual fucking games buck back or do something that was perfectly acceptable five years ago they get out the pitch forks to condemn them. Call for fines and suspensions. Is this because they actually care, or because they are engaging in good old fashioned virtue signaling? If you find the NFL or any sport barbaric, stop fucking watching it. Don’t support it with your wallet. They can’t and won’t do that, though. Because that’d require personal accountability and giving up something that’s popular and which they enjoy engaging.

    They’ve found CTE scarring in people who played sports at even the high school level. I’m sure you could extend that back to pop warner or youth leagues if they had a chance to look more often.

    But yea, again…we know that getting hit in the head isn’t a good thing overall. But from my admittedly amateur opinion the research here is even flimsier than the climate shit.

    • (((Jarflax

      I say we round up all the young Democrats to do a study where we beat half of them about the head daily for a year and then let them live their lives compiling data on their experiences, and killing and dissecting the brains of say 10% every decade to correlate scarring with life experiences at various ages.

      • (((Jarflax

        Corn syrup and coal tar derivatives obviously.

      • Fourscore

        Richard always sends some to his real friends.

  16. UnCivilServant

    I should probably ask Mr With Candy if it’s okay to drop in when you’re in his area – It would be rude to not check with the local host first.

    • Ted S.

      You could stop at the restaurant for a meal.

      Give the Employee From Hell a zero tip, too.

      • UnCivilServant

        Ted, it would have to be spectacularly awful service for me to not leave a tip.

      • UnCivilServant

        It was the Terra Cotta, right?

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Tell them that the gloves are coming off?

      • Not Adahn

        I like to say “cooked clay in Butlerville” for OPSEC reasons.

    • PieInTheSky

      keep in mind the buses are pretty bad and you would need to drive.

  17. DEG

    All those lines. It’s almost like someone is nostalgic for Communism.

    • (((Jarflax

      Did Romania have lines? I thought they were the no food for citizens, food is for export brand of Communism.

      • DEG

        I think all the European Communist countries had lines.

        I poked around on the Intertubes. I found this (trigger warning: reddit) post showing a picture of a line for cooking oil in the 1980s in Romania.

        This page on Romanian Communist era jokes includes this one:

        Why is that in Romania shops are built five kilometers away apart? Otherwise, the lines would merge.

  18. The Other Kevin

    Upon consideration, I now get why so many people try to walk over the border if it’s presented as an option.

    Is this procedure similar when people travel to other countries besides the US? Or out of the US? The only experience I had was getting a passport to travel to the Dominican Republic, and that was much less time consuming.

    • UnCivilServant

      I visited the UK when US citizens could tourist for 90 days without a Visa.

      I visited Canukistan before things got tense.

      Both times I just showed up at a point of entry and showed my passport.

      Never visited a country where I needed a Visa.

      • kinnath

        I needed a visa to travel to Russia in the 94-97 time frame. The first several trips, we could only get a single trip visa. After going multiple times, they let us get a multi-trip visa that was good for a year.

        I traveled without visas to UK, Netherlands, France, Germany, Canada, China (not sure about that one), Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, and Australia.

        Of course, I haven’t been out of the US since 2006. The world may well have changed since then.

    • PutridMeat

      I haven’t been out of the US in about 6-7 years. I know someone who just left for England and Hungary (Tues) – she who cannot get a glibs account to comment, FWIW… – and the England one is much more onerous than it was the last time I went there. Picture, money, bunch of questions, wait for approval.

      For fun, I tried to apply using a gorilla flipping off the camera but it continuously failed to validate. A chimp mooning the camera similarly failed to upload. Racists.

      • PutridMeat

        validating closing tags also failed to upload….

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        We know this is false, as there are no libertarian women.

      • PutridMeat

        no libertarian women.

        Who said anything about libertarian? She’s a NAZI.

    • Necron 99

      I had to go to India earlier this year. The visa process was all online, but let’s just say Pie’s description of the the primitive web site gave me PTSD. I got an e-visa, which besides the website crashing between every page and taking days to complete (save your work,) wasn’t too bad. Their main concern seems to be my relations with Pakistan, even grand parents’ relation with Pakistan. Also had a drop down box for religion – my “none”, “not”, “NA”, “atheist”, or “agnostic” wasn’t listed, so I guess I’m a “Christian” for travel purposes, not the worst thing I’ve ever been. Once I got the paperwork it wasn’t too bad. Lufthansa went on strike just before I left so they switched me to Air Canada and it was quite good – epically with business class and premium airport lounge. Lufthansa on the way back was okay, but not as good as Air Canada and my layover in Frankfurt didn’t last long enough to explore the lounge. In Bangalore you have to have the correct paperwork to get into the airport, maybe keeps the hoi polloi out, but odd none the less. My visa for India is still good, but it is a work visa so I have to have a letter from a company to get back in. I don’t plan to go again.

      • UnCivilServant

        India is on my list of “Countries I don’t think I’d want to visit” I put it in the category of “Nice things to see, but I wouldn’t be able to deal with the hassles” Not as bad as China, but that’s a low bar. (ie, I wouldn’t expect to be killed, disappeared or arrested, but might get robbed, scammed, or pick up a disease)

  19. Evan from Evansville

    “…I found out that while the US embassy knows how to take reservations, they don’t know how to hold reservations.”

    That’s how Seinfeld lost his rental car.
    “I know what a reservation is.”
    “I don’t think you do! If ya did, I’d have a car right now!”

    • PieInTheSky

      There were lines everywhere. There was no food but hope springs eternal. The gas lines were overnight and you had to sleep in the car to not lose your spot

      • PieInTheSky

        Goddamn fail the stupid wordpress asked my to select pictures of bycicles then gave an error and this

  20. slumbrew

    Bravo on the title. Way to lean into the joke.

    • EvilSheldon

      Best Talking Heads song ever.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        This ain’t no Mudd Club! Or CBGBs! I think I encountered Hilary at the latter on a weekend arvo some time ago.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        I only saw Dillinger Escape Plan there, no such luck as Talking Heads.

  21. Evan from Evansville

    I’m curious about what your must-sees and must-gos are and excited for your potential meetups with others. Fun exploration! The worst and longest part of any visa I’ve done was getting the FBI background check done. That was 6-8wk for them to find nothing. I’m such a goody-two-shoes. (Read: I’ve never been caught, but I’ve also never done anything ‘bad,’ so YMMV. (Illegal, yes. Bad? No.))

    • slumbrew

      malum prohibitum but not malum in se

    • PieInTheSky

      For now just the gulch. My understanding is the one must see thing in america is the canyon

      • UnCivilServant

        Which canyon – there are quite a few in this country.

      • DEG

        Which canyon – there are quite a few in this country.

        Christy Canyon.

        You probably want to be careful searching for that….

      • Beau Knott

        I would argue Yellowstone National Park surpasses it.

      • (((Jarflax

        Ten Sleep Canyon isn’t as enormous but I think it’s more beautiful. But If I had to pick one drive to recommend to a visitor it would be the Beartooth and Chief Joseph Highways.

      • Threedoor

        Idaho and Oregon claim the deepest one but it’s a scam, just a line drawn between two mountain tops.

        It is a pretty drive or rafting trip though.

      • Ted S.

        He could go to Watkins Glen.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Hell’s Canyon is a DMZ.

      • rhywun

        Watkin’s Glen is nice and Letchworth too. Both not far from The Gulch.

    • Tres Cool

      Boo!
      Musk won’t let me play the video.
      But you’re probably not wrong.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, the last couple of days it forces you to the app.

        Which I don’t have, and don’t particularly want. I have no idea how much surveillance it does.

      • Threedoor

        Me too
        I hate that the internet is becoming AOL again.

      • DEG

        Musk won’t let me play the video

        Nitter, please

      • R C Dean

        That is hilarious.

      • rhywun

        OMG 🤣😂

  22. Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

    Shpip or Old Man might have some ideas for shipping your whisky out of America.

    There is always your prison wallet…

    • R C Dean

      Giving what shipping costs these days, it would probably be more to ship it than to buy it.

    • (((Jarflax

      We could buy an old sub and smuggle booze to Romania on an industrial scale

  23. Threedoor

    It’s been since 2010 that I went overseas.

    Canada two years ago and that was east, show up at a border crossing with a passport. The time before that into Canada did not require a passport.

    The entire visa thing is very foreign to me.

    • DEG

      I had to get a visa for both of my Australia trips. Electronic visa both times for US citizens. You apply and pay via a website.

      The night before I left for my first Australia trip, I double checked the visa status page. It said I had no visa even though a week or so before it said I had one. I had the printout of the receipt and a printout of a page saying that the Aussies issued me a visa. I took those with. The airline employees at LAX when I boarded asked whether I had a visa. I told them I did but the visa status page said I didn’t. I showed them the receipts. They let me board cracking a joke about “You have the receipts, you know how bureaucrats are, it’ll be OK.”

      It was OK. I breezed through Aussie passport control, customs, and quarantine.

  24. ron73440

    clicked endless check boxes saying that no, I am not in organized crime, I am not a terrorist, my family is none of those things either. I do not plan to smuggle drugs or traffic people in the US. I do not intend to commit crime there. Indeed, I did not engage in genocide, ethnic cleansing, war crimes. I certainly did not force women to undergo abortion or sterilization against their will. And so on and so forth.

    Good thing they ask, I imagine it keeps the ones dumb enough to admit they plan on those things out.

    Works as well as a gun free zone, probably.

    • kinnath

      endless check boxes

      I assume this is all gamesmanship. If you arrive in the country and do something that someone doesn’t like then the Feds can deport you for lying on your visa form with no legal recourse.

      It’s not to filter people out during the visa process (I don’t think).

      • R C Dean

        Sounds like they could shorten the checkboxes to just a couple:

        Have you done bad things?
        Are you the sort of person no decent country would allow in?

      • (((Jarflax

        New form, please draw a picture of Muhammed.

  25. Evan from Evansville

    Trip to Michigan begins. A lovely 5-hour trip in total, there + supply pickup + return. Gonna get my vapes through the drive-thru for the first time, just cuz I haven’t yet! They moved the Cubs game to NOW so I’ve got a good radio companion along the way. Baseball, if ya know the game, really is just as good on the radio as on TV. Sometimes, better. Though I miss Harry Carey and Steve stone on broadcasts, Pat Hughes (+ Ron Coomer, less so) are fantastic as well.

    I’ve got a good drive with much to think about, and it’s all remarkably positive, considering the massive shift that’s gonna officially begin on Monday. I’m working on a difficult piece about the initial days (I ‘remember’) after The Incident. Seems a great time to get that finished and sent in, considering it dovetails with my damage. I’m using ’em carefully, perhaps sparingly, but the pics of my brain surgery, and docs removing chunks of my skull are… uh. Difficult. TPTB might want a “Click if you want to see NSFW images” screen on ’em?

    One thing I’m pleased with, including my persistent chipperness, is I think it’s a fun read. You get to read about how and why I kept escaping my hospital confines and no salty sadness laid onto it. Mostly cuz I don’t feel the sadness (unless I do dwell). It’s much healthier to remember how ya got back up than to spiral into the dreariness. Humor helps all.

    I am doing this memoir thingy, and sharing most (all?) with y’all, mostly for nephews and folk like y’all, but it’s also ringing in my head: I kinda do want to write for a living. I’ve been given a fantastic ‘opportunity’ to write about big shit others don’t know about. Seems a winning ticket’s been given to me and that it’d be stupid to NOT write about it and use it. Big project for 40th bday.

    Do be well, all. Incredibly excited for Pie’s trip. Wish I could attend in some way.

    • R C Dean

      Baseball, if ya know the game, really is just as good on the radio as on TV.

      It really is the best sport for radio.

  26. Not Adahn

    My interviews for NEXUS were just as ridiculous, but only one line and a longer drive, since they only do those interviews at the border.

  27. Not Adahn

    If it’s cool with OMC et al, I’ll try and meet you there.

    I don’t know if there are any public ranges in/near Butlerville to bring loud toys with me.

    • UnCivilServant

      Quick search shows some private clubs with not much in the way of web info. Nothing that jumps out as “Open to the public”

  28. The Other Kevin

    Looks like USS Nimitz has arrived at Station Norfolk. Now my kid gets to meet with her husband and hash our their divorce, or not divorce. Wish us luck.

    • UnCivilServant

      🤞

      I just hope everything works out. Whatever they decide I wish them the best and no acrimony between them.

    • Gender Traitor

      Even if they divorce, if they can handle it like adults, I believe it will be okay.

      • Gender Traitor

        (Most “adults” don’t handle it like adults.)

    • The Other Kevin

      Thanks everyone. I know it will end up ok, I’m just nervous for her today.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t know if there are any public ranges in/near Butlerville to bring loud toys with me.

    Pie deserves the full on Amurrka! experience. Just drive around on the back roads shooting road signs.

    • DEG

      The only place in America where I’ve seen shot out road signs was on Nantucket Island.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve never been to Nantucket and seen plenty of bullet holes in signs.

        Admittedly the first time I saw them was in the city where I expect the target was not the sign…

  30. Brochettaward

    Long story short. Trader Joe’s is a fucking scam. At least most of it. Like anything that gets bought up by big corps, they’ve done nothing but skinsuit it. They used to have local/regional suppliers and make unique shit.

    In order to expand outside those areas, they basically just slapped their brand name on the same shit you’d buy anywhere else. The increased recalls of their products are tied to that reality and also offer the only real peak behind the curtain because they have to disclose the manufacturers with each recall.

    The fact that they hide who makes their shit is a dead giveaway. It’s not that they’re protecting some trade secret. And anyone making Farmer Joe’s shit would obviously want to grow its own business and not be locked to just Trader Joe stores.

    If you like a brand that is a regional thing, pray that it doesn’t get bought out or get it into its head that it needs to exist everywhere because odds are they’re going to fuck up a good thing.

    • UnCivilServant

      They didn’t get bought out, Trader Joe’s was always Aldi (Nord) because two companies couldn’t operate in the same area under the same name under US law.. So Aldi (Sud) operates the Aldis while Aldi (Nord) branded as Trader Joes.

      • UnCivilServant

        Correction – the buyout was in 1979. They’ve been Aldi (Nord) longer than they were anything else.

      • UnCivilServant

        In short, it was not a “regional thing” unless you were shopping there in the 70s. But shopping has changed so much from the 70s that it’s an alien experience regardless.

      • rhywun

        Huh. I was vaguely aware of two Aldi’s but not Trader Joe being in the mix. I thought Trader Joe was sort of “upscale”? I’ve never been to one but in Ithaca all the loaded East Asian female grad students shop there. We have a couple Aldi’s too and it’s definitely downscale the one time I visited.

      • UnCivilServant

        I was in a Trader Joe’s when looking for nonstarndard hues of carrot (other than orange). It was underwhelming. Not what I’d call upscale.

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