I learned a new art form, at least for me, when I saw HE post a pic of her flea market find I knew I had to explore. Enter the world of fractal wood burning or more accurately the Lichtenberg effect. Here’s Wiki’s take on how it works if you are interested,
Devils punchbowl
A Lichtenberg figure (German Lichtenberg-Figuren), or Lichtenberg dust figure, is a branching electric discharge that sometimes appears on the surface or in the interior of insulating materials. Lichtenberg figures are often associated with the progressive deterioration of high voltage components and equipment. The study of planar Lichtenberg figures along insulating surfaces and 3D electrical trees within insulating materials often provides engineers with valuable insights for improving the long-term reliability of high-voltage equipment. Lichtenberg figures are now known to occur on or within solids, liquids, and gases during electrical breakdown.
Lichtenberg figures are natural phenomena which exhibit fractal properties. The emergence of tree-like structures in nature is summarized by constructal law
DISCLAIMER, DO NOT ATTEMPT! if you make a mistake of any kind, YOU WILL DIE.
So first thing we do is grab a 12kv power supply,
Stuff you need
some solid copper electrodes and 25kv rated wire and solder it all up with a good rig. I recommend the Weller ws1010 but any Weller iron will do.
The best in Soldering
Use some Cambric tape and Rubber tape over that to get good insulation, then you’re ready, almost.
Insulation is your friend
You need to create a conductive solution to give the electrons a path to follow, you see, so we make a sodium bicarbonate solution in which we drench our wood pieces in. My rig has a switch and a deadman floor switch for redundancy, and I have 12kv rated gloves if things get squirrely (looking at you, Cat!)
Anything else is stupid
It takes a lot of time and effort to make the effect work and it’s still its own beast, the electrons go where they want, I just feed it. After the burning is done, it’s time to clean off the excess carbon and show our work. We do this by————————-Redacted and it comes out beautiful .
The Harried Wife’s Companion
Depending on use and how I feel I finish with several types of Varathane, Watco lacquers and Beeswax. Will it burn? That’s my first question. Is it a nice piece? I hope so.
You know you want one
Spoons, fully useful
A lit Vase
I currently have a lot of kitchen things on offer, it seemed a no brainer, but, guitars, skate decks, who knows? I hope to sell some stuff during tourist season up here and work the Etsy thing in the meantime.
Contact me for the special Glibs discount if you see something cool.
This is not a shameless promotion, i have wanted to show you this for months, now it’s time, Cheers!
https://www.etsy.com/shop/LozonnesLichtenbergs?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
The only thing burning here is this First. It’s on FIRE.
Bravo! you are on topic, and that makes it a true First!
Well done Sir!
I knew you’d get your first First one day. Way to keep after it, champ.
You always remember your first…
/drifts off in reverie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6jKL2qWxo
I’ve Firsted more times than you’ve masturbated while crying thinking of how you will never be me.
Yeah, you just got firsted again today, by the Hyperion, loser! Time for a new gig, you suck at firsting, I mean the worst.
Looking really good! I came across this concept for the first time only a week ago or so. Really cool that you’re finding interesting and creative ways to use it.
Fire and sound,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jY3oPSazADx3UKHw7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rsgQwtoJsbmwJTj49
Fractal Vee
That is awesome….
I was going to say a whole bunch of nice things, but there’s no ALT-Text on the wooden utensils. I am disapoint.
Seriously…very cool, Yusef. Good luck with your venture. Are you going to do any local craft fairs this summer?
As many as I can find.
The spoons are Bamboo, safe for cooking, no wax or laquers, I love the way they look,
and thanks Mike
https://www.etsy.com/shop/LozonnesLichtenbergs
this is the correct address, I hope
I pasted in the URL you had above and it worked fine.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/LozonnesLichtenbergs?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
Bravo, Yusef! Very well done.
Glibs, the video Yusef posted on his Etsy page of the process unfolding is well worth the watch!
Beautiful stuff.
Yusef awesome stuff!
The results are really pretty. Nice job!
Thanks Tulip 😉
This work deserves a sound track
Somethin’, somethin’…lightnin’!
Last time I posted a music link, Tres flipped right the fuck out, but I’m a slow learner, so…
Lightning Crashes – Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJ4O-nSveg
My wife was a huge Live fan. I have heard all of their stuff, a lot. I like them.
I think I saw Ed at his nadir. My now wife and I saw him on a hotel bar balcony playing acoustic at SXSW in 2013. And then afterwards chatted with him a while, but had a much more internet conversation with an Icelandic guy and his American wife where she outed her husband for sobbing tears of joy in a liquor store when he saw American prices.
And, meanwhile, in a whole ‘nother southern rock band…
1952 Vincent Black Lightning – Richard Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg
White Lightnin’ -George Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUVyOa8KROE
Ride the Lightning – Metallica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk6wLZN4X74
Yusef, do you have expedited shipping available? I have been a bad son and still haven’t gotten a Mother’s Day gift…
lucky_nickel at protonmail dot com
I think I can, I’ll shoot you an email right here quick
Mail sent, you have my number
Yusef, at one point you mentioned you were going to zap some wooden keepsake boxes or jewelry boxes.
Do you have any pics you can share?
Here’s an album, somethings weren’t finished but they are now,
I love the dragon’s eye
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6SRbiuVyhdzLiyNu5
Some Things, derp
Thank you for the link! Can you sell these direct to the Glibs audience, or are you saving them for Etsy?
I would be happy to sell to our Tulpae at a lower cost than what Etsy charges,
and i do custom orders
Do not Google Lichtenberg effect if you don’t want to see what it does to humans. Same for wiki.
Adding to Yusef’s warning, from wiki, https://www.woodturner.org/Woodturner/Resources/Safety-Materials/Safety-Fractal-Burning-Lichtenburg-Burning.aspx
I don’t need to see, it’s right in front of me, hehe
Dammit Yusef. Be careful!
I am as safe as I can be and still do the work. You could do it remote but where’s the fun in that?
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I do not want to see that.
Can you do boobs? I mean what could be better than boobs with lightning bolts?
I can think of one thing.
I’ll try to find a piece of wood and see what perks up, really
OT: Roe being overturned just leaked
Court packing, here we come!
Whoa, I never thought I would here those words,
Are you kidding? How do you expect the GOP to snatch defeat f the jaws of victory?
A lot of a Democrats are spinning this as NOW this will mobilize a lot of left wing voters next term.
I’m not so sure it doesn’t also energize right wingers though. I think they’ll be pretty primed.
There only seems to be a few rights that lefties care about. Number 1 is abortion. Number 2 is now free other people’s money for doing nothing. Number 3 is the right to molest 5 year olds without consquence.
I’m fine with denying them both 2 and 3, and in fact seeing them sent to prison or just drawn into quarters in the street for 3, but I don’t see any value in 1, although I don’t agree with it, just let it go, dummies.
i don’t care about abortion that much but the supreme court ruling was absurd. clearly the constitution does not protect abortion and it was just misinterpreted this way so democrats get what they want foisted on all states.
Yeah, it’s a personal decision. It’s probably murder, but still, just let it go, dummies. Let progs abort themselves into history, because God knows we don’t need more of them, but make the ones of them that fuck with our kids cease to exist with extreme prejudice. If the GOP were smart… OK, never mind…
It’s pretty absurd every time the left discovers some new right never recognized by anyone in history, but proceeds to continue its assault on clearly enumerated rights.
You know, I don’t care about abortion, but if you think its state sanctioned murder, that’s a pretty cut and dry argument for outlawing it. It’s kind of a moral imperative, actually. If the state can’t be trusted to protect the lives of the most defenseless, it really can’t claim to have any moral legitimacy of any kind.
It’s absurd that they can actually belive that who giveith can surely taketh away. But no one with a few functional brain cells ever accused the left of being contemplative of future unintended consequences.
Yeah. Saying it’s “probably murder” but people fighting to outlaw it are “dummies” and that you don’t see any “value” in outlawing it reveals a pretty fucked (or non-existent) set of values.
I get your point, Mike, but committing political suicide and letting the left run wild is not going to save more lives, to say the least.
committing political suicide and letting the left run wild
On one side of the scale is ending the mass murder of innocents. On the other side of the scale is possibly losing some elections.
Yeah, I’m cool with the right dying on this hill. If the left wants to burn the whole place down because they can’t worship molech anymore, so be it.
That said, I don’t think this is the third rail that it was 20 years ago.
“On the other side of the scale is possibly losing some elections.”
Or the Ministry of Truth marching you off to the gulags, but whatever.
Look, if we let the left keep control for much longer, there is going to be a real civil war, and if they do not manage to get us all killed, there will be 10s of millions who will die. If anyone does not believe that and thinks this is just politics as usual, well, OK.
Bullshit, Hype. Abortion is pretty much a split decision in the USA, and abortion as birth control is not popular.
I’ll say it again in plainer terms: that you think abortion is murder, but can list a litany of other “more important” things to worry about is pretty fucked up.
Or the Ministry of Truth marching you off to the gulags, but whatever.
Because Roe was the finger in the dike? Be serious.
Welcome to the fold, my
bruthaBro.So, y’all want to make abortion illegal, right now, period? OK, then lets’s do it. Don’t blame me for how the right had all the tailwinds blowing their way and they decided that they are anxious for total leftist rule and the great reset and apocalype, let’s go for it, nothing can possibly go wrong!
So, y’all want to make abortion illegal, right now, period?
Yes. 100%. It is THE hill I will die on. This country has been condoning mass murder of innocents for 60 years, and ending that barbaric practice is more important than owning the libs. Even if the totalitarian left ascends because of this (im highly skeptical), it’s just a matter of timing, not of whether it will happen. I’d even say that it’s good to confront the prog-fascists now rather than after 5 more years of teaching our kids (the ones who don’t get butchered in the womb) to hate themselves, their families, and the tatters of their culture.
You’ve obviously been hitting the hipster juice extra hard tonight.
I never thought the right wing justices with the balls would ever be in the majority. Now it looks like Roberts is the lone “conservative” hold out. Pretty ironic that it took a 90’s era Democrat with no real principles to make it happen.
Abortion is a thorny topic politically. As you stated, it definitely gets the base of both parties riled up. I think conservatives finally seeing that their side has the balls to act on it will be galvanizing, but it’s going to get the lefties out in force despite what a disaster their rule has been.
I think the public would be a lot more sympathetic to the GOP side of the aisle here, and the laws they have passed thus far if they got a fair shake in the media. Most Americans do not support abortion on demand or abortion up till the day of birth as a lot of the crazy progs desire. But Roe has also acted as restraining influence on the conservatives who would go too far and just outright ban all abortions.
The leftie boogieman is finally a real thing. It won’t just be fear mongering when they say they’re coming for your abortions. The day is here.
“The leftie boogieman is finally a real thing. It won’t just be fear mongering when they say they’re coming for your abortions.”
And that — some are saying — will whip up some voters.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the polls Republicans were dominating.
Meh. All it (putatively) does is return the issue to the states.
If you can’t make it to NY or CA to get your abortion, is it really that important to you?
Right. And as we all know, it won’t be just those two states. My WAG would about a third maintain the status quo (and try to expand it) a third allow it only very early and in cases of rape and incest, and a third allow it only to save the mother’s life. And nobody will live more than a day’s drive from an on-demand provider.
Bro is right, of course. The left likes nothing more than imposing their will on the entire nation.
Abortion was never decided in the standard manner; deliberation by the peoples representatives. And that is why, 45 odd years later, it is still an issue. It is the hanging chad of court rulings as there is no “law” there, just an opinion of a few SCOTUS justices. And until there is an actual law, it is still just foo-fer-all that both sides will trot out to “prove” their points. The Dems fucked up when they did health care and didn’t finish this business, thinking they could fund raise over it forever.
It wasn’t decided in the standard manner because the left’s comfy narrative that most people accepted Roe was pretty much bullshit. It was a hot button issue, remained a hot button issue, and people were simply left defenseless because a court said so. No politician HAD to put their name to creating the law or voting for it. That’s the perk of it.
Same thing with gay marriage. Even in Cali-fucking-fornia the left couldn’t get gay marriage passed by straight up referendum. They had to turn to the courts because despite the propaganda saying that most Americans are on board with it (I am, for the record, fine with the gay weddings) now because they like the gays, most were not comfortable with it.
The left uses the courts when its convenient and when they can’t win politically. When doing so would be messy. I’m surprised they haven’t cobbled together a legal theory that would allow their justices to just create a right to a universal health care system whole cloth out of thin air.
I agree with everything the BRO says here.
“I’m surprised they haven’t cobbled together a legal theory that would allow their justices to just create a right to a universal health care system whole cloth out of thin air.”
I’m sure they have, they just haven’t issued any legal rulings to that effect. Yet.
Link?
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473
If Politico prints it, it is almost 100% sure to be false.
Possibly, but it’s not an opinion and appears quite real.
If Politico prints something that turns out to be true, it will be the fisrt time in the history of that rag, so my opion == mostly false.
Also Twitter today is as delicious as the Trump election and the Elon Musk purchase combined.
Yeah if this pans out, it’s going wipe everything else off the front page for the next six months.
They are fucking with the wrong person this time. They have no idea how tough and popular this guy is. They are about to find out the hard way, and I love every moment of it.
Fuck whomever released that draft. The case isn’t decided until it is decided. See Obamacare and judge John Fucking Roberts.
It is widely speculated to be Sotomayor people trying to change the outcome by whipping up hysterical reactions.
It is undoubtedly one of the leftwing judges completely breaking protocol and playing politics.
I assume it is Breyer since he already announced that he is leaving. His announcement lines up with the Feb draft time frame.
I doubt it is him, too old school. Sotomayer is just the type though.
Someone was saying on Twitter that one of Sotomayor’s clerks is a known acquaintance of the author of the Politico article, and so he would be the prime suspect.
That was my first thought. Someone(s) needs to be fucking fired immediately.
I disagree. Every single clerk should be fired. The leaker should be prosecuted as well.
But only if every single clerk KNOWS that their life will be fucked for years or decades for a breach will they make sure that leaks don’t occur.
I could get behind that.
I don’t know what if any laws pertain to court opinions that are being circulated behind closed doors.
Fire them for “loss of trust and confidence” just like in the military. I would be absolutely gob-smacked if they don’t sign non-disclosure agreements as a condition of employment. Every Federal NDA that I have signed includes that I could be prosecuted.
Even if they overturn it as a court case, the true believers in abortion “rights” can push for a bill to be passed in the House and Senate. Ya know, the way laws are supposed to be passed.
Then the people would see exactly how their reps and senators stand on the issue and vote accordingly.
I hate to see fundamental changes to law and policy come through court cases and tortured interpretations of the constitution. Penumbra, my ass!
I have no problem with courts mandating adherence to the basic constitution. That’s kinda their job. To test the crazy shit government tries to do from a constitutional perspective. Roe is a crazy attempt to “rightify” something that never would have even been considered desirable, much less an enumerated right, to the whole nation in the founder’s time. When you’re wrong, you’re wrong and the courts are the last firewall to stop that.
To clarify, I meant to refer to the original Roe decision as being well outside the court’s purview.
Overturning Roe is the right thing to do in my opinion. The screeching will be enormous, but that’s where people can urge their reps to push actual legislation that the have to vote on if they want abortion legalized to whatever availability they think is morally right.
I would not re-elect a rep or senator who voted for legal on-demand abortion.
As Reagan said, “I’ve noticed that everyone for abortion has already been born.”
Hehe, Reagan, mY Hero
never would have even been considered desirable, much less an enumerated right
I’m glad to stand alone on this one: no government has any interest in the matter; like almost everything else, this is no one’s business. Not being enumerated is the very point this time as it is most of the time on glibs dot com: abortion belongs in the long unlisted list, the same as all the other things that are natural rights: to own oneself and therefore even to trump and terminate pregnancy with zero interference. It belongs to the 9A as should almost everything else that is grotesquely managed by any layer of American governments.
When this legal structure affects us elsewhere, we usually understand: we are indignant and independent and self-righteous; with abortion, however, many rationalize a role in that same government which they would not trust with the least part of their lives; they now empanel police that they mistrusted the other 364 days out of the year….this dissonance owes 99% to passion. And I understand: I can’t imagine participating in an abortion myself any more than I can imagine killing a full-formed adult, but this is clearly the sort of private conduct that, when elected by others, is utterly none of my business….none of anyone’s business. I much prefer the consequences of less law, less bureaucracy, and more freedom even when I could never participate, the same way I don’t care to regulate your drugs or your love even thought I am quite certain that my personal choices would be the very model for the rest of the world.
Like many other things, I prefer a country where others are free to make mistakes, even terrible mistakes. I prefer a country that does not have the facility or power to intervene or investigate or chill or jawbone private conduct. I don’t want a Department of WhyAreYouNoLongerPregnant; I don’t want hormone recognition systems making Orwellian recommendations to the constabulary; I don’t want the people who unanimously adore the overreaches of the Patriot Act to have lists of who is with child and when they are due; I don’t want the most bizarre of wellness checks or a new low in redflag subpoenas or any other hair-brained, paranoid scheme ever dreamt in the worst Glib feverdream that TeamBlue might rightly be feared to visit upon us to be harnessed for this purpose.
Our instinct for small government and personal latitude should triumph here as elsewhere.
I do not want ANY taxpayer dollars used to help kill babies. That shit needs to stop immediately.
People who want to support planned parenthood and the like should do so as “charity”, but don’t give them government grants.
I miss former Glib “donation not taxation”…
…he said while completely ignoring the rights of the terminated human.
, many rationalize a role in that same government which they would not trust with the least part of their lives; they now empanel police that they mistrusted the other 364 days out of the year….this dissonance owes 99% to passion
Or because I’m calling those cops I distrust when a murder happens. I’m not anti-cop. I’m anti cops abusing their power. Investigating murder isnt abuse of their power, its a core duty.
I am a big believer in unenumerated rights. They are nearly endless, in my view. And Alito actually addresses the subject when he notes that there should be some basis in our legal and historical traditions when talking about them.
Abortion has a very long history in our legal tradition of being banned with the threat of criminal punishment. To argue that when our founders wrote the Constitution, they intended for abortions to be not just A protected right but the most sacred of all is pretty disingenuous. And as MikeS said, and as many libertarians do when addressing this issue, you completely ignore the subject of whether this is or isn’t murder. You can’t just gloss over that fact. You can’t just ignore whether it is or isn’t a person or at what point it becomes a person because it’s pretty central to the argument.
There is no libertarian argument that murder of a defenseless and wholly innocent person is justified or a matter of personal choice. So for the people who believe that it is murder, it is very obviously a moral imperative that needs to be addressed. You offer those people nothing in the way of an argument besides get over it. It’s not your business.
I joked with someone I know just now that maybe we should just bring back infanticide since a baby out of the womb can only barely support itself more than one inside. I got no response, but really, what’s the difference? Maybe until people hit a certain legal age, they are jus property and can be killed at the whim of their owners.
This has always been my “viable” counter-argument. One could easily say a human life isn’t “viable” until it is 3, 4, 5…??? years old.
I fully admit that I don’t understand the viability argument. I get it from a “that’s where the line of scrimmage is at” point of view, but I would say the biggest movement on my view of abortion happened when somebody challenged me on the viability threshold. Is there something about having a chance of living when forced out of one’s home and into a very unnatural environment that causes rights to be bestowed?
I try to put myself into the shoes of the other side, and all I get is evictionism as a principle of least harm. However, stripping that top layer off, the principles are self conflicting. Worrying about harm, but not about killing the child is a weird contradiction.
Evictionism is a fallacy because it jumps to in media res. If I have my garage door open and someone steps inside, legal precedent is that, Castle Doctrine notwithstanding, I can’t just blast them away with my shotgun. How much more so when you open your legs and don’t use protection. Through that conscious choice you are implying your consent to “invite” a potential visitor inside that you will take legal responsibility for.
But the responsibility is not equal, deadbeat dads, etc…. Tough titty. Life’s not fair.
maybe we should just bring back infanticide
“Infant Could Be Delivered and Then ‘Physicians and the Mother’ Could Decide If It Lives”
You’re absolutely right that government has no interest in the matter, as government shouldn’t exist. However, I don’t want an AnCapistan where I cannot call a ‘hue and cry’ to prevent the termination of my child without my consent.
Jus’ sayin’.
Amazing how that would leak.
Not sure I’ve never heard of a supreme decision being ‘leaked’. I wonder who orchestrated the leak, assuming it’s even real.
Very amazing. According to Politico, “No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending.”
The left have become completely unmoored from rational thought and common decency. The end, and only end, is what matters.
Roperites.
Current theory I’ve seen is that a Yale Law grad (and we’ve seen recent examples that its law school is a complete woke dumpster fire) and current clerk of Sotomayor may be the one. He railed against Kavanaugh at Yale, and was quoted in a previous piece by the same author of the ‘leak’ so they are known to each other.
I look forward to social media banning anyone from mentioning the name of this brave hero.
You’re so right about that. Or maybe he admits it and instantly goes on the talk show/MSNBC circuit plus instant job with Planned Parenthood for oodles of money.
There was an anonymous source, you know?
Who’s doing the leaking?
Happy story of the day. An owl mom whose eggs didn’t hatch this year had two orphaned owlets placed in her nest by a rescuer.
The video shows that she immediately took to them and instincts kicked in for the whole family.
https://youtu.be/3CghRBQB0J4
aw! thanks for this!
I foresee myself watching a lot of cute animal videos in the near future, as the rest of social media becomes screeching hell.
That was… interesting. But I couldn’t figure out what mom was doing other than crushing the kids.
Warming them up! That’s how they do.
The chicks can’t regulate their body temp very well at that age.
Ah… Ok. That wasn’t evident from the video.
Cuteness accepted.
Owls are about 80% feathers.
Personally, I believe that there’s some, at least vaguely, debatable aspects to the actual moment of rights attaching to a fresh human being. I can’t unequivocally assign it to a specific time before birth, at least. I personally oppose abortion at all times. I just think anything even remotely debatable should not be left to government to mandate or prohibit. I’m not a genius or anything, but I ain’t dumb and I can’t really argue it’s any time before viability after separation from the mom ( or host, depending on how dehumanizing one wishes to be.) Trust me, I’ve tried. However, it sure seems stupid to base all of your political clout on demanding the “right” to kill your offspring if it’s early enough, seeing as how easy it is to just use some form of birth control and prevent the whole thing from being an issue at all. Talk about lacking class! We want to be safe to be slutty and not have any responsibility to use such an easy method to prevent gestation, and then reserve the right to violently kill whatever stage of development we deem early enough just to prevent having to deal with the natural consequences of our own decisions. Sure, Jan, that’s a winning argument right there. Uh, Huh!
We will see if the left can turn it into a winning argument across the country with this upcoming election, assuming the reported votes on the court hold.
Remember when the left insisted that they wanted the tragedy of abortion to be safe, legal, and rare? They pointed to cases of rape and incest, or health of the “mother” to gain some sympathy for their point of view.
Didn’t take long to go to “rite of passage”, “celebrate your abortion” (seriously, it’s out there and it’s sickening), and even abandonment of babies born alive during botched abortions and left to die of cold and neglect. In hospitals. By doctors and nurses!!
And the media pretty much blacked out Kermit Gosnell’s horrific crimes because they didn’t want to give abortion a bad name.
Given the depth of feeling many people have about this issue, it’s a wonder the country itself has held together. You have, on the one hand, a group of people forced to endure what they consider to be a horrific crime committed on a massive scale right on their doorsteps. And you have, on the other hand, a group of people who believe it is their inalienable and individual right to terminate a pregnancy at any time. Wars have been started over (a lot) less. It is, to me, a testament to the lack of true political energy in this country that more violence has not ensued.
I think it’s just a product of how comfortable our lives have become and how indoctrinated I think the vast majority of the population is. Americans have mostly had confidence in the legitimacy of their government in the 20th century. Only recently has that started to wane, and only on the right.
I just think anything even remotely debatable should not be left to government to mandate or prohibit.
You think you’re a person with rights. I don’t. Since it’s remotely debatable, government shouldn’t get involved when I kill you. It shouldn’t be left to them to prohibit me from killing you since I don’t think you’re a person.
The squishy middle feels like you’re staying above the fray and not taking a position, but you are. In no other context do we say “oh, that might be a person or maybe it’s not. Whatever, you can kill it if you want. I’d hate to impose myself on you.”
At some point, the potential human being becomes an actual human being with all inalienable rights attached. I am willing to negotiate in good faith when that is best for the balance of cases. I’m not a conceptionist, but I’m also not a first breather. Viability is the historical standard, even when it was two weeks post-delivery, so I tend to land there, even if it is 20 weeks of development.
Negotiate with who? You aren’t negotiating with the left, they are already talking about actual post-birth infanticide up until a certain age being legal. I mean they don’t pay taxes, what are they worth?
We have commenters here who are not monsters who disagree with my conception of when rights invest. The rhetoric may be heartfelt, but I have seen what happens to neglected infants. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. I am interested in society negotiating a moral/legal framework where every mother who experiences a stillbirth at 28 weeks doesn’t get investigated for murder AND where pieces of filth who got themselves into something to feel good for a minute can’t murder a child who could have been delivered and adopted because they couldn’t be arsed to do something about it before the life inside them was viable.
There are a host of discrete events, from conception to birth, that one could place the start of life at. And each and every position there will be argued over. And this, the moral question of abortion, is what has never been debated. Should it be a national right? If so, under what legal framework? Should it devolve to the states? This is what was sidestepped, and, in my view at least, a major driver of the cultural war and its high level of viciousness.
Is there anything more central to the concept of inalienable rights than when they invest or manifest?
Maybe only what those rights are? But you are right, that is one hell of an important question and issue.
It has been key to me putting aside all my feelings (I had a gf who had an abortion and lied to me about it. I don’t love voluntary, undisclosed to the father abortion) and get down to the key issue of when is a person a person who has inalienable rights endowed by their Creator? I don’t know, but I think that the bright line is when doctors can save them outside the womb. I don’t love the idea of potential lives lost. I’d be willing to accept that as a way to not prosecute women who just lost a life they wanted to gestate because of genetic or environmental factors beyond their control. Just remember that every abortion law is also a prosecution against a miscarriage.
A huge part of the problem is that half the country does not believe in natural rights. This might seem othogonal to your point, but to get to a consensus on that issue, of when inalienable rights start, the nation needs to get that first issues sorted again.
Just remember that every abortion law is also a prosecution against a miscarriage.
But would it be? Were miscarriages investigated before Roe v Wade? Are all deaths investigated as potential homicide? I don’t think so, but I’m not sure. If not, as I suspect, there is no reason to think that anti-abortion laws would necessarily involve investigating miscarriage.
We have a new Justice who doesn”t even believe in inalienable/natural rights. She may indeed be “historic” in that sense (though I’ve heard the sainted O.W. Holmes may have been a non-believer, too.)
Where is his grave. I wish to piss on it.
Don’t know but Walter Durante is in Orlando.
OWH buried in Arlington so it may be a bit dangerous to try pissing on his grave. He was wounded three times in Civil War, once at Second Bull Run where it was thought to be a mortal wound. His survival, I suppose, is the price we have to pay for civilization.
Yes, this.
Mesmerizing.
How can a god who made females with bountiful, beautiful, bouncing breasts also have made mosquitos, black flies, and cancer?
Blind breastmaker.
You need bad to balance the good.
I have missed links like this.
Sorry. I fell down a hole investigating Grubhub lore and 2 years later, here we are.
Finally, the truth is out!
Although, I must admit I assumed you were kidnapped by Cummies and held for ransom, but STEVE SMITH finally found you and rescued you.
I also spent a lot of time cranking the hog.
God bless you.
Well…thanks a bunch for this. I fell down the same rabbit hole and I raise your Grubhub theory 1 Neutron.
I, uh…
I’m having trouble concentrating…
Why does it stop at 24 seconds? That’s not right.
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NO DUMB HERE
I just listed some new Dragon boxes you may enjoy,
Also, Yusef, awesome stuff. Sorry your awesome product got sucked into an abortion thread.
Concur. I really like the way the guitar turned out.
We have the same soldering iron!
The Vee is for sale, brand new, hand built, intonation is sweet, and she’s quiet, no noise
I’ll give you $7 dollars and a of my CD record of my greatest Firsts.
Bro, you couldn’t afford my rates
For sure.
Yusef, I wish we lived closer to each other, my dad is a woodworker. It would be cool to see a collaboration between you two.
He mails me a piece, I burn it and mail it back,
Profit!
I was thinking weight/shipping would be an issue. But, he also makes small stuff that we could fit multiples of in a USPS flat rate box. Let me talk to him and see if he’s interested. One thing he made a couple years ago that I think could work out really well are sine stoppers.
This isn’t his, but I think you could do something cool with something like this, yes?
Oh yeah, that’s right up my alley. I work at around 10k+volts not quite microwave voltage so my work is finer and more detailed. Perfect for wine stoppers. did you see the Salt and pepper grinders? they look sweet.
That would be awesome!
Let the free market and the creativity of individual craftsmen reign!
My buddies Wife does resin casting and we are already brainstorming on some things. And Mike, ask your pops if he has any interest at all it could be fun and a moneymaker.
Thanks Brett, as far as my stuff goes, well… abortion is one of those topics, whatcha gonna do?
So, I googled “Devil’s Punchbowl” and learned of another wonderful action government is capable of.
That’s fucking horrible. Freed…and then not.
It wasn’t on Pornhub?
BTW, nice to see you again, HM!
Can this be done on any size wood, given enough time and/or voltage? Sorry for the dumbass question (my wife is well aware of my dumbass proclivities, and informs me of them on a regular basis).
I want a piece of live edge slab lumber for a dining room table when I get The Bosslady and I’s house that we’ll retire to. Do you think some lichtenberg effect here and there would enhance the table, or be an unnecessary or unwanted addition?
One technique is to sand the slab fine, burn it, then fill with resin to make a table top. It’s pricey but totally doable.
As far as looks goes it depends on what your doing with it. basically if it’s wood I can burn it.
Whatever you do DON’T try this at home, I can help you or you may find another electrician locally.
Plasma is a terrible thing if it gets on you.
No worries about that.
When I was a kid, the Old Man always had me (from the age of eight or so) helping out on home maintenance projects on weekends.
The exceptions were whenever there was plumbing or electrical work to be done. With those jobs, my adolescent fuckups on the former could get real expensive real fast, while screwing up on the latter could get me or him or us both dead.
I still respect his judgement, and will hire out electric, plumbing, or HVAC jobs.
Eventually, I’ll probably buy something like this (look for image 23/30) out of native cypress.
suh’ fam
whats goody
Mornin, pimp.
sup’ playa
game respects game
Cool stuff Yusef. Don’t kill yerself.
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2022/05/02/philadelphia-mayfair-residents-concern-rat-infestation-falling-deaf-ears/
(UCS trigger warning)
https://www.nj.com/passaic-county/2022/05/earth-day-was-doomsday-for-trees-in-this-nj-town.html
The outrage is amusing. Still, NJ sucks. I hate everyone involved
I wish they would do that on my street for the motorcycles and tricked up cars that have been making my life a living hell.
“Land bought with Green Acres money must be preserved as open space, but West Milford can’t seem to find a way to keep the dirt bikes out.”
Heaven forbid that the carefully preserved open space be enjoyed by actual people.
https://www.wgal.com/article/jonbenet-ramsey-father-outside-agency-test-dna/39880486
How the fuck are they still working on this?
That asshole Sean sent me down the Philly news rabbit hole, likely because ours is pretty tame compared to whats going on there.
This warms my heart. I guess she was drinking to numb the pain of her new shitty life.
Former Pennsylvania AG Kathleen Kane In Custody At Montgomery County Prison After DUI Charge, Spokesperson Says
Short of a house falling on her, this is next best thing.
Bi-Lingual reporter Madeleine Wright is a solid wood.
That’s the face of an ice hearted ball crusher if I’ve ever seen one.
https://billypenn.com/2022/05/02/university-sciences-birth-control-contraception-saint-joes-catholic/
For the rest of 2022, everything will be about sex. Sorry Ukraine.
“ People expressed concern over the effect it could have on the school’s science-based curriculum.”
Because science and morals are the same thing.
I think I see the real problem.
inorite – icky
“It’s not fair I have to walk across the street for my birth control!”
Sandra Fluke approves this message.
I wonder whatever happened to that happy go lucky gal.
The cost of contraception bankrupted her?
“Speed-Limiters Will Be Equipped In All-New EU Cars Beginning Next Month”
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/speed-limiters-will-be-equipped-all-new-eu-cars-beginning-next-month
Restricts fuel and beeps, boops, and otherwise bugs the shit out of you until you slow down. Coming to the good old USA soon, you just know it.
No
They’ve been putting up those flashing signs to tell you that you are being a bad citizen lately. Speed traps soon to follow.
Hacking street signs with stickers could confuse self-driving cars
There is also the issue of GPS and map accuracy, frontage roads and other things that mess up navigation systems.
Really nice work, Bob! Far beyond my capabilities but maybe I can set the fly-tying desk up again since I’m gonna be very bored, very soon. Sadly, most of my own patterns are too local… Enjoyed the Alt-Text!
The Stupid Party just stepped on their own dick, yet again. The “leak” needs to be investigated and nipped in the bud. Dems are willing to do anything to maintain power even so far as threatening war with Russia or tearing your country apart. So long as they get to count the votes we are bum-fucked. Here I thought that the Met Gala would be enough of a shiny object to distract from the cascading disasters. Nope, some pink-haired intern just set the political world on fire. I hope they enjoy reigning over the ashes.
I blame Astra seeing as Sorestro and the rest (including their Boss) seem incapable of this.
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Good morning, Tulip, Fes, Scruffy, Stinky, Sean, and homey!
Tonight is our complimentary 20-person group outing to the local minor league baseball game – one of our rewards for rolling our ticket money over to 2021 when the 2020 season was cancelled (instead of asking for a refund.)
And it’s raining. ?
Maybe you’ll get a window? I remember watching the rain pound down before my Little League games and praying to the baseball gods to let the sunshine in! It worked 50% of the time 100% of the time.
It MIGHT improve from “Thunderstorms” to “Scattered Thunderstorms” by game time. What’s an appropriate sacrifice to the baseball gods?
Chewing tobacco
Ewwww….but you’re probably right. As long as I can just burn a little in the fire bowl on the back porch and not actually chew it. ?
Working on a small fire bowl as we speak. Pares well with Covfefe.
Minor Leagues are great. Went to a game with Mrs. Patzer and the younguns a while back, and were featured on the kiss cam during the game. Kids thought it was cool, we were mortified.
Innit usually the other way around?
My kids are… different. Also, they were but wee sprouts at the time. Teenaged patzers laughed their asses off when they saw the video.
That’s AWESOME!
Hah! I just ran up to the gas station to procure a can of Grizzly Long Cut Wintergreen.
/spits in beer can
Sniffing the backcatcher’s cup.
Morning.
Good morning, U. How are you today?
I have a bit of a headache. I have to prep for interviewing candidates and been required to invite a bunch of people with only a vague idea of what the work my group does entails to be there because the director doesn’t realize I did all the goddamn interviews before my old boss retired anyway.
? Hope the headache goes away ASAP. Got enough Dew?
Plenty.
“a bunch of people with only a vague idea of what the work my group does entails”
That sounds like a real headache. Hope you feel better.
Mornin’, reprobates!
Hats off to Yufus, that is some great stuff!
Good morning, ‘patzie! Is your cold getting better (I hope?)
Much better, thanks. Went to urgent care Sunday, got some meds which helped. Hope you don’t get rained out.
Thanks!
TBH, I remain agnostic regarding the abortion debate. Like Don said above, I can’t condone some panel of “right-thinkers” being in control. I’ve mentioned here before that the women that are most hard core about banning abortion in my acquaintance are those that had them young and later had children. None of them are what anyone would call “Churchies”. Not my circus, not my Sea Monkeys.
It’s a big issue but not as big as it used to be. The real fight is going to be at what point it’ll be illegal and that will be fought in the statehouses. It’ll galvanize the left for the midterms but it’ll galvanize the right and the people that are uncomfortable with abortion as birth control to so I don’t see this as an electoral gamechanger. We’ll find out soon enough I suppose.
The media is on a choke-chain. This will be huge until Russia starts airborne Nuke testing again. Everything at the wall. Everything.
If anything, it will solidify the current red/blue state divide for the next few generations. It would be nice to remove the issue from national politics but I think we all know that won’t happen.
I agree, I think we’ll see left/right shifts within states based on their current leanings. As for the left losing their shit, they seem to lose their shit over anything and everything anyway. When the outrage meter is turned up to 11 it can’t realistically be turned up any further.
“Quick, Early and Painless” is a misnomer. That would be ideal except for the fact that women never let anything go. You are going to either hear about it like some call to arms or she will suffer in silence. Maybe she don’t give a shit. I can’t pass judgement and the hive-mind should cotton to that fact.
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Apropos of nothing, I listened to the entre “Tommy” album last night at work for the first time in about 35 years. Still holds up and I’m not a huge fanboi of the Who. Live at Leeds is sublime.