The Name on the Wall

by | May 25, 2026 | Family, History, In Memoriam, Military | 252 comments

My given name is James, but nobody calls me that.  More on that later.

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Before I get too far into my tale, let’s set the tone by introducing you to an outstanding young American tenor named Austin Brown:

The National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific, better known to locals and tourists alike as “Punchbowl,” formed around 100,000 years ago as a volcanic crater that looms over central Honolulu, several miles from the better-known Diamond Head.  A little over a year after the Pearl Harbor attacks, the territorial governor of Hawaii offered the land to the War Department as a final resting place for soldiers killed in the war that was raging on across the world.  Funds were short, though, until Congress, under pressure from veteran’s groups and parents who wanted their relatives’ bodies repatriated to American soil, finally appropriated the money for construction of the cemetery in 1948.

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In many ways, my maternal grandparents were a typically American story.  My grandmother could trace her relatives in the Colonies back to the seventeenth century, while my grandfather was the son of folks who came through Ellis Island.  Somehow they found one another, fell in love despite their disparate backgrounds, got married, and had a couple of kids.

My mother Virginia was the elder of the two.  A diligent student, she made her way to a college down in Florida, graduated, and got married.

Her little brother, James, was also a bright kid, as well as a gifted athlete, but he was indifferent about his studies at the state university, so he dropped out after a year and joined the Army.

The Army, realizing Uncle Jimmy’s native intelligence, gave him no small dose of advanced training and assigned him to be the right-seater in the Grumman OV-1 Mohawk, a bug-eyed, tri-tailed, but highly advanced (for the time) reconnaissance aircraft that could spot the enemy via visual, electronic, or even infrared means.

There was a war going on at the time in Vietnam, so it was natural that Uncle Jimmy’s squadron would be rotated there, and he was.  Missions were routine, just monitoring the North Vietnamese Army’s movements via the electronic suite, since they used the cover of darkness in an attempt to conceal their movements.

Then one winter evening, a few weeks after his twenty-third birthday, James and his pilot took off on another milk run over the Vietnam – Cambodia border, and…

Nothing.

No distress call.  No missile flare.  No plume of smoke.  No Vietnamese propaganda release about a shootdown.  Just disappeared, swallowed up in millions of square miles of remorseless, indifferent jungle.

“WE REGRET TO INFORM YOU…” were the first words on the telegram, and that was that.  A good kid, the All-American boy that every father wanted his daughter to marry, the ornamentum of his mother’s eye, His Majesty The Baby of just twenty-three years before, had dropped off the face of the earth.  Forever.

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The crown jewel of the Punchbowl cemetery is the Honolulu Memorial.  One of three run by the American Battle Monuments Commission in the United States, it features a statue of Lady Columbia, her feet perched on the bow of a ship.  Folks of a certain age remember her as part of the most badass television show intro of all time:

I was the first kid born in the extended family after Uncle Jimmy’s MIA status, so naturally I was named after him.  I couldn’t be called that, though, because any mention of the words “James” or “Jimmy” would send Grandma into a spiral of despondence that would last for days, sometimes over a week.  Okay, then.  Lots of guys go by their middle name.  Only my parents further diminutized my middle name Peter into “Petey.”

It got worse.

Mom worked for a printing company that mostly did music album covers and comic books.  Back in the late 1960s, Marvel came out with a Dennis the Menace ripoff called Peter the Pest.  I have no insight into the female brain, but “Pesty” became my mother’s pet nickname for me.

That would’ve been fine in the confines of our house, but no.  I’m playing in a Little League game that Mom had found the time to attend, and during my first at bat, Mom decides to cheer me on.  “C’MON, PESTY!  GET A HIT, PESTY!”  This did not go unnoticed by the opposing team’s dugout.  Eight-year old kids being inveterate assholes, every single plate appearance was greeted by kids jeering “Pesty!  Pesssssty!  PESSSSSSTY!”  The catcalls continued at school and on the diamond for the rest of the year.  To say it got under my skin would be an understatement.

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It being the mid-1970s by then, my grandparents retired and moved to Florida about forty-five minutes from where I was living at the time.  My parents got divorced, Mom fell on hard financial times, and eventually she sold our little house in Tampa and we moved in with her parents.

My grandparents, to their credit, endeavored to show me the grandeur of the United States, figuring that I may as well see it when I was a kid, rather than trying to tote me along as a sullen teenager.  I took a road trip to see the national parks of the American West with them in 1978, then we went to Hawaii in 1979.  We saw all the typical sights, and I remember hearing the accounts of several survivors of Pearl Harbor (there were lots of them around back then). Of course, due to me seeing the statue of Lady Columbia on countless episodes of Hawaii 5-0, I had to go to Punchbowl.

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Flanking the statue of Columbia in Punchbowl are the Courts of the Missing, upon which the names of all 18,095 of those lost at sea or missing in action are recorded on eight enormous vertical limestone tablets. A few steps down the staircase from those names are a further 8,210 who were never recovered during the Korean conflict.

Two thousand, five hundred and four names of those missing in action in Vietnam were added in 1980.

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My grandparents were right about taking me traveling while I was still young.  In high school, I ventured off for one summer to Scotland, and two to Jamaica (as a Southern Baptist missionary, no less).  But at home, I was still Petey, or even “Pesty” sometimes.  It bristled.

Then came the college acceptance letters.  I got into the state flagship university, but I also got into the Ivy that was the brass ring that I’d reached for.  Kickass SAT scores still counted for a lot in those days.  Grandpa quickly put an end to that discussion.  “It’s fifteen hundred miles away, and fifteen thousand dollars a year.  No.”

So State U it was.  But now, I was a long way from my little town where everyone called me Petey, and no one knew me, even mockingly, as “Pesty.”  I could re-invent myself as the former high school scholar-athlete who turned down a prestigious college, and I could be James.  Or Jimmy.  Or Jim.  I decided I like James best.

My classmates, my new fraternity brothers, my professors, they all called me James… and I liked it.

I had come home a few times during my freshman fall semester, and endured going from man-about-campus James to “Petey” during my short weekends.  But things came to a head in November.

I arrived home late at night the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.  Unbeknownst to me, my grandparents had invited a bunch of their friends from up north to Thanksgiving dinner.  They all knew the story of what had happened twenty years earlier, because they couldn’t not know.  After grace had been said, maybe ten minutes into the meal, my grandmother looked at me and asked, “Petey, would you like more stuffing?”

I stated confidently, “Grandma, I’m not Petey anymore.  I go by James.  Get used to it.”

Immediately, I saw every head at the table – Grandpa, Mom, Grandpa’s Shriner buddies, close friends from church – slowly turn in my direction, like the turrets from a company of tanks.

My grandmother’s eyes clouded over and she looked down.  “I’m sorry,” she said.  “I… just can’t do that.”  Without another word, she left her seat and retreated toward her bedroom.

I shifted my eyes to my right, where my grandfather was sitting at the head of the table.  He stared at me for a few long seconds, then got up and took a step to his left, towards me.  I thought he might slap the ever-loving shit out of me for my impudence, but he just reached for a picture on the wall over my right shoulder, one that I’d passed so many times over the years that it was just part of the scenery.  It was the photo of a young, square-jawed kid with Grandma’s fair skin and Grandpa’s dark hair and eyes.

He held it about a foot away from me.

“This is James.  You have his name, but you are not him.  In this house, you are Pete, if that’s okay with you.  If it’s not okay with you, you don’t have to come here anymore.”

He then went into his and Grandma’s bedroom.  I sat in silence, enduring the looks from the other adults that was somehow worse than the “Pesty” chirping of my youth.

A few minutes later, the two of them emerged from the bedroom and sat down.

“So, Pete,” my grandmother said, “Would you like some more stuffing?”

I ate in silence while the dinner conversation picked up as normal for a holiday meal.

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1989:  My mother decided that she’d like to take me to Hawaii as a college graduation present.  She’d never been there, so I think the trip was as much for her as for me.  At our hotel in Waikiki, she asked if we could make a trip to Punchbowl.  No problem to rent a car, so off we went.  She didn’t reveal to me until we were on our way that she wanted to visit the grave of a childhood friend.  They share the same birthday, though he was several years older.  When I got her there and saw his marker, I did the math:  he had perished in the Battle of Saipan while fighting with the 2nd Marine Division, about six weeks before his eighteenth birthday.  Pondering on that for a moment, I recalled that six weeks before I turned eighteen, my biggest worry was if my high school girlfriend would let me get my hand under her bra after taking her to the dollar movies on a Friday night.  He was seventeen, and going after hardened soldiers dug into caves, the entrances hidden by thick underbrush, on an island that most Americans couldn’t find on a map now.

His grave was in the shade at that time of the day, so I told Mom that I was going to make a quick trek up to the Columbia memorial to see it up close again.  I ascended the stairs and saw it, but noticed the new addition to the Court of the Missing.  Curious, I deviated and wondered…

Then I saw it.

There was my name.  Our family surname is rather uncommon, so there could be no doubt.

It hit me like a punch to the solar plexus.  My grandfather’s rebuke echoed in my head.

All my supposed difficulties in my pampered suburban life, which amounted to being saddled with a couple of monikers that I bristled under or getting turned down for a school dance or getting a bad grade in a research paper, were nothing compared to what one or two generations before me had actually suffered – a son who was lost with no body to bury, or a son who was buried thousands of miles from home, where his parents couldn’t ever visit.

Turning back to face the broad lawn of the cemetery, I read the words of the poet Archibald MacLeash on the end of the column:

WE LEAVE YOU OUR DEATHS

GIVE THEM THEIR MEANING

Staggered, I eventually made my way back to where Mom was waiting.  “What’s wrong?” she asked.  “You look like you’ve seen a ghost!”  Little did she know.

1994:  I had begun what eventually became a pretty good career, and was getting married to a girl whom my grandparents wholeheartedly approved of (my mother, sensing a rival, somewhat less).  To Mom’s credit, she only slipped and called me “Pesty” once during the rehearsal dinner.  I had the world by the tail.  My grandparents were pleased as punch that I had turned out pretty well.

They would both be dead within a year.

My grandfather had a massive heart attack while tending his garden on Christmas Eve.  Tough bastard that he was, he held on until six on Christmas morning.  Burying him on one of those grey January days when the leafless trees stick up out of the ground like quills on a hedgehog, I saw my name again.

Someone from the local VFW had contacted the Veteran’s Administration and arranged for a cenotaph – a marker for which there is no body – to be placed in the family plot.  Uncle James was still lost forever, except in the memories of whomever came to visit that little area.

Grandma passed that July.  The doctors called it metastatic breast cancer, but I can’t be convinced that it wasn’t from a broken heart.

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EPILOGUE – In the 1990s, the United States began working with the Vietnamese government to find and identify servicemens’ remains that had been lost or were unretrievable during the conflict.  Eventually, villagers in a rural province were interviewed, and provided dog tags and bone fragments from a plane crash from decades before that were turned over to Army officials.

In 1998, SP4 Jimmy and his pilot were identified by DNA sequencing.  Later that year, their combined remains were returned to America and buried together with full military honors.

Uncle James was home.  

Mom passed a few years later.  At her burial, I noted that someone at the VA had received word of Uncle Jimmy’s return, and updated the cenotaph to read “VIETNAM MIA 1966-1998.”

2019:  I took my wife to Hawaii for our twenty-fifth anniversary.  After a fun-filled week on Lana’i, and a few days on the north shore of Oahu, we headed toward Waikiki so she could get some shopping in.  On the way, I stopped at Punchbowl, just to visit my mom’s friend, who never has anyone visit his grave.  His parents are long dead, and his only sibling passed away in infancy, so I might be the only person around who knows anything about him.  It seemed important to me.

As we got back in our rental car, my wife (who knows this story) reached into her purse and brought out a piece of stationary and a small pack of Crayola crayons.

“Dear,” I said, “I wasn’t planning on giving snacks to the Marines today.”

She replied “People go to the Vietnam Memorial in Washington all the time and make etchings of their buddies’ names.  Maybe you want to do that for your uncle.”

I thought for a moment.  “I can’t do it.  I’m not big enough.”

She probably imagined that my name on the wall was too high for me to reach.  She’s right, but not in that way.

We drove back to Waikiki in silence, her looking at the Honolulu skyline, while I thought about the man I’ll never be.

Anyway, my given name is James, but everyone calls me Pete.  Now you know why.

EDITOR’S NOTE: This will be the only Post today.

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Shpip

Shpip

Self-deprecation seems to be his thing, but he's not quite funny or clever enough to pull it off.

252 Comments

  1. Gender Traitor

    Thank you, Pete.

  2. juris imprudent

    Good stuff Shpip, or should I say “JP”.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      RIP James

  3. Drake

    Excellent, thank you.

    Saipan was a wild bloody thing that most Americans have long forgotten about. My old Marine unit was there so I had it drilled into my head. It’s also where the climax of the book Battle Cry by Leon Uris takes place.

  4. (((Jarflax

    This was an excellent tribute.

    • Beau Knott

      +1

    • Common Tater

      +1

      (and not one pun)

    • R.J.

      Fantastic.

  5. CatchTheCarp

    I know when I’ve finished reading a great story because it leaves it leaves a mark inside.

  6. Sensei

    Thank you! And RIP James.

    I’m named after my uncle. The same exact name. He, fortunately, came back from Vietnam. It sometime causes confusion at family gatherings.

  7. Gdragon

    Thank you so much for sharing these stories (and for doing a marvelous job in telling them).

  8. Grumbletarian

    Damn, heavy stuff to start the day with, but appropriate.

  9. creech

    They say one lives as long as someone remembers and says your name. Every Memorial Day I remember one who made the ultimate sacrifice. My dad, six uncles and one aunt served in WW2. One, whom I never met, did not come home. 2nd Lt. Richard Alvin Walter. Army Air Corps
    KIA over Burma, Oct. 1942. He’s buried in the Punchbowl and I’ve visited his grave. Today, perhaps every Glib could post the name of a service member whose name we should remember?

    • Gender Traitor

      My father and his three older brothers all served in WWII and, thankfully, all came home alive. The only connection I know of to one who did not was the one whose name was on my POW/MIA bracelet when I was a kid: Captain David Eugene Padgett, U.S. Army 82nd Aviation Company

    • Timeloose

      Eugene my great uncle died at Saipan during WWII. My grandfather and all four of his brothers were spread across the services and in every major theater. My grandfather barely made it out of Italy after being seriously wounded.

    • juris imprudent

      My mother’s first husband, I’m not sure she even told me his name, died in combat during the Anzio battle. If he had survived I’d be half Jewish.

    • mikey

      Kenneth Beyers. 19. My best friend growing up – lived across the street. Dropped out school, fell in love, got drafted and sent to Viet Nam. Killed by a short mortar round two weeks in. I went to college and got my 2S deferment, got married had a kid and did pretty well. I still feel a sense of guilt for playing the system.

  10. ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

    No one in my direct family has seen combat since the civil war, when a young Jewish immigrant from Praja landed in Missouri in 1856. He, family name Popper, became a sapper for the confederate states. Fortunately he survived.
    Both grandfathers had essential jobs during WWII.
    My father, other side, was tentatively accepted to West Point but couldn’t pass the vision test, which worked out well for me, as I saw enough of my friends fathers fucked up from that.

    • Ted S.

      Neither of my grandfathers fought either. At the time of Pearl Harbor, maternal grandfather had four kids with a fifth (my mom) on the way. On Dad’s side, his parents fled Nazi Germany once Grandma learned she was pregnant with my dad, who became an anchor baby although nobody used that term in the day. Dad claims Grandpa spent some time interned while all the citizenship stuff was being figured out. I don’t know the full story since Dad was much too young to understand what was going on while Grandpa obviously wouldn’t have wanted to talk about it. (Grandma died before my parents got married; Grandpa married another German immigrant, and our step-grandmother was the woman we knew as Grandma.)

      Dad’s grandmother, however, remarried here in the States and her second husband (died in I think the 1940s) is buried in an overgrown part of the same cemetery where my mom is buried. Some years back the town historian learned that the guy fought in World War I and arranged to have one of those miniature American flags grown on his grave. And then they learned that he fought for Germany.

    • Drake

      Both of my grandfathers were in the metals industries. One of them actually tried to enlist but his boss caught word of it, went down to the induction center, and yanked him out of line.

      • Rat on a train

        One grandfather was old and worked as a petroleum engineer so did not join. Both his sons served during the war. The eldest son was in the 101st Airborne. The youngest son was a flight engineer. My other grandfather joined the infantry and fought in the Pacific.

      • Threedoor

        I’m not sure about my dads bastard dad, but my moms was a TWA pilot and deemed unfit for the army air Corp because he had partial color blindness so he trained army air Corp pilots instead. Grandmas second husband was an aviation mechanic and ground crew guy in Kansas.

        Dads moms last husband was too young for WWII and missed Korea, but got drafter after and spent time in Germany and fort lost in the woods.

        Vietnam rolled around and one of my dad’s half brothers joined the marines and went. Dad joined the army instead of being drafted and was two of his basic training class that didn’t get sent to infantry school and off to nam.

        No one in my unit even got hurt by enemy action in Iraq or later in Afghanistan (I missed that trip), even if they lie and said they did.

      • Gustave Lytton

        My grandparents were both in the Navy during WWII. One enlisted several years before to get away from potatoes and was at Pearl until shortly before the attack when he was sent to an advanced school. Was offshore of both North Africa and Normandy. The other, a Midwest boy, ended up in the Pacific. Spent time in both Portland and Astoria according to his service record. He died before I was born so I treasure even tenuous connections. Dad was in the Army for four years during VN, but was stationed elsewhere.

        Thanks to Rumsfeld, my NG battalion’s activation got cancelled and my ETS went as scheduled after all. Only made it as far as Kuwait during OSW. Good enough for “combat” according to the VA, but it wasn’t by a long shot. Later when they were activated a couple years later, had several KIAs including two I knew.

        Was thinking about them recently because one of the squad leaders from my company has since gone into politics. Mayor of a small town and now nominee for the statehouse in November. Was not expecting that since the party establishment went all out for his opponent. Another (a leftist) has been a perennial carpetbagger candidate has so far not made it into office. Do appreciate his work on veterans suicides though.

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      I’ve had someone in my lineage serve during every major war from the French and Indian War until Iraq 1, which then resumed when my cousin went to Afghanistan. I’m the first generation that was fortunate enough not to have to join the military.

  11. DEG

    That’s a great tribute. I’m glad someone found your Uncle and got him home.

  12. Rat on a train

    My cousin was a fighter pilot posted to the Philippines late in 1941. He departed on a lone patrol early in the war and disappeared.

  13. rhywun

    the most badass television show intro of all time

    verily

    • DEG

      Yes

  14. Threedoor

    My buddy Sam and I put out a Humvee fire from an IED that killed an E7 and a Chief.

    I went to their service as I needed to know them as they were before that moment.

    Twenty years later I find that I have forgotten their names.

    Currahee gents.

    • Threedoor

      Just like cops that leave there service weapons in them.

      I found an M4 in a barber shop once.

    • Threedoor

      I want to buy that guy a beer.

    • robc

      We were in a hardware store in Dawson Springs, KY (this was before the tornado wiped away 1/2 the town) getting some dirt to do some infill at my wife’s family’s cemetery. My wife found an envelope on the counter with about $2k in it. She turned it in, they knew whose it was, he came back in for it while we were still there. He had cashed his paycheck, then come in to buy something and laid it down.

      We could have walked out with it and been gone well before he got back, but that would just be wrong.

      • Chafed

        It’s good to know there are still people with a functioning moral compass.

      • Tres Cool

        It was around Christmas, and I found a wallet in a Kroger parking lot as I was going in. I asked a cashier to get me a manager (I wasnt going to hand it to anyone). Waiting around I see a guy with a cart overflowing with groceries, looing panicked and checking all his pockets. I walk over and said “lose something?”.
        After giving me name so I could look at his license I told him it was in the parking lot. He had just gotten paid and his cart was full of Christmas dinner.

  15. Chafed

    That’s an excellent tribute and quite a family story.

  16. Aloysious

    Wonderful.

    Thanks, shpip.

  17. Rat on a train

    Cooling Poverty and Thermal Justice

    Reframing cooling poverty changes how researchers think about solutions. Thermal justice does not only mean reducing exposure to heat. It also means doing so fairly, and holding accountable the people and institutions whose policies and planning decisions have made some neighborhoods hotter and some households less able to keep cool.

    • Common Tater

      Wait, you’re saying some places are hotter than others? This changes everything!

      • rhywun

        Oh come on, that is not real.

      • Rat on a train

        The multisensory experience of feeling hot, breathless, sweaty, and weak during heat spells among transgender people is a critically understudied area in both medical anthropology and thermal comfort research.

      • Fourscore

        Just took a break from the garden, didn’t realize I was trans…

      • Ted S.

        A lot of Vietnamese are Trans.

      • R C Dean

        hot, breathless, sweaty, and weak

        When I was younger, I put a lot of effort into achieving that state.

    • Threedoor

      My hvac went out and it cost $11,500 to replace.

      Where my money?!

    • rhywun

      All I’m getting out of that is “gimmie your money”.

      No, fuck off.

    • Chafed

      I’ve got a bone to pick with Gavin Newsom about my electric bill. Now pay me.

    • Pat

      It’s early yet, but there’s a pretty good chance this will be the stupidest thing I read today.

  18. The Other Kevin

    This was perfect. Thank you.

    I have no such stories in my family. All 4 of my grandparents came through Ellis Island in the 1920’s. There were only 3 men in that next generation, and they were done with their service before Vietnam ramped up.

    Our current “weak men make hard times” phase is due in part to people not hearing these stories every day. That’s a good thing and a bad thing.

    • Common Tater

      “I have no such stories in my family.”

      Me neither, and for the same reason.

      • The Other Kevin

        Dad does have some stories about the Cuban Missile Crisis and JFK’s assassination. For the former, he wasn’t worried, he was just pissed because they made him stay on base, and it was his weekend to come home.

  19. Rat on a train

    My cousin was an only child. His burial flag was passed to my mother and to me. It is now on my wall. Underneath is a Japanese officer’s sword my grandfather brought back from the Philippines.

      • Threedoor

        Ive said it before and I’ll say it again.

        The U.S. was too hard on the Japanese. They should have all been allowed to keep their family swords and their service weapons.

      • Sensei

        This Japanophile is fairly neutral on this. Japan’s treatment of POWs and human rights violations in WW2 were horrific.

        But a great number were simply young men drafted who died honorably. War sucks. Full stop.

      • rhywun

        I always thought the US not fucking around when it came to Japan and Germany is why they are (mostly) friendly places today.

      • Chafed

        That’s my take on it too. Along with being benevolent during the post war period.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        One of the few Japanese attempts to look at WWII was haruki Murakami writing Wind Up Bird Chronicle. It is on the surreal side but well worth a read.

  20. guy in the back row

    Really moving article, thank you!

  21. Tres Cool

    My grandfather and his 2 brothers served in WWII as Army. My Dad, and Uncle, and a cousin all served in the navy. I chose army.

    I think my Dad named me to insure a lifetime of stupid jokes. Even now when he introduces me its, “Let me show you my little Peter…”

    Just never gets old, Dad.

    • Rat on a train

      He should have named you Richard so he could ask people if they’ve seen his Dick.

      • Gdragon

        I went to high school with a guy named Richard Holder. He was older than me and I didn’t know him very well but he was apparently a wonderfully nice dude. I guess that is the play, you have to be so positive and so good that people legitimately feel really badly about making fun of your name.

      • trshmnstr

        Or William so he could show off his Willy

      • Rat on a train

        There are some last names that limit naming options.

      • Tres Cool

        When I was at the steel mill, I had to do new employee training for environmental. As I was looking through the sign-in sheet I saw a guy named “Richard Rash”.
        That had to be rough.

      • Sensei

        Poor relation of Dick Trickle?

        Family down the street from my parents moved in. My mom went to school with the mother. I came for a visit after I moved out and asked who were the new neighbors.

        She said , “oh, the Dicks are moving in”. I burst out laughing.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    *moment of silence*

  23. Common Tater

    These articles come in pairs.

    “Sydney Sweeney goes completely TOPLESS again in wild Euphoria tryst as show kills off one of its biggest superstars”

    https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz/article-15845859/Sydney-Sweeney-Euphoria-jacob-elordi.html

    “Sydney Sweeney’s racy scenes risk derailing her career – as experts fear she will make nudity ‘her entire brand’ rather than making ‘character choices'”

    https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz/article-15846085/Sydney-Sweeneys-racy-scenes-risk-derailing-career-experts-fear-make-nudity-entire-brand-making-character-choices.html

    • The Other Kevin

      What streaming service is that show on again?

      Experts
      I will defer to this “expertise” if they can show me a few times in which they were right about something like this.

    • Chafed

      Are these the same experts that helped run Hollywood into the ground?

    • Pat

      experts fear she will make nudity ‘her entire brand’ rather than making ‘character choices’

      I’m admittedly unfamiliar with her work, but I kind of doubt she’s ever been hired even once in her entire career because of her prowess as a thespian.

      • The Other Kevin

        No woman has ever used nudity to become successful in Hollywood.

      • Homple

        “No woman has ever used nudity to become successful in Hollywood.”

        Or anywhere else, for that matter.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    “Pesty; short for Pestilence.”

  25. The Late P Brooks

    experts fear she will make nudity ‘her entire brand’ rather than making ‘character choices’

    She should branch out into psychotic manipulative harridan roles. People will love that. She could play Hillary Clinton. Or Lady Macbeth, if she’s looking for a more relatable and sympathetic character.

  26. Fourscore

    My two brothers and I did 5 VN tours so Clinton, Bush Jr, Cheney, Trump and Biden could hang out doing “better things”. The oldest was a Purple Heart guy from Korea as well.

    Ask me why I won’t vote.

  27. Evan from Evansville

    Thanks for this, Shpip. Heartfelt and well said.

    To be fair, “Pesty Pete” is a fucking outstanding nickname for a Little League-r. I’m short and earned “Short Fry” in my youth, sometimes shouted out by foes during my baseball days. (Great lesson in l̵e̵e̵r̵i̵n̵g̵ ‘leaning into’ it to show I don’t ruffle easily.)

    I hope you were a pesKy slap-hitter, a tough out. Goes for the rest of y’all, too. Don’t give up your at-bat.
    *stares at self in mirror*

    • R.J.

      “Left Field R.J.”
      Nice to meet you, Pete.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Hey! I was also a catcher!

        I also admire Scott Hemond, whom I’d never heard of (for good cause): “In 1986, Hemond was drafted in the 1st round (12th pick) by the Oakland Athletics, where he played 7 seasons in the Major League as a utility player, playing every position at the MLB level except shortstop and pitcher.”

        AIn’t easy being useful.

      • R.J.

        Some relative of Marco Rubio I assume.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Background noise

    That same morning, at some point, a group of concerned neighbors installed large metal planter containers on 97th, 98th, and 102nd streets off of Aurora Avenue N, with a typed letter attached to them explaining that they were there to try to deter illicit activity and gun violence perpetrators from being able to spill over into the adjacent neighborhoods.

    ——-

    “North Aurora has been abandoned by the city; there’s been an absolute lack of leadership across the board,” Jake stated.

    He says that earlier in the day on Saturday, he and a few others met Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson’s Public Safety Executive Operations Manager for Public Safety, Alison Holcomb, in response to the early-morning shooting and complaints about gun violence that had been repeatedly sent to the Mayor’s office.

    Jake says Holcomb extended an offer to organize a meeting with community members. He says he appreciated her coming out in person to speak with them, but that it fell short of expectations.

    “She provided absolutely zero, tangible solutions or actions that the Mayor’s office is willing to take to protect us,” he said.

    The mayor has bigger fish to gut, like all those evil oligarchs wrecking Seattle’s quality of life.

    • rhywun

      Can’t they have a gun buy-back or something? Obviously there are too many of them on the streets, walking around and shooting people.

      • The Last American Hero

        Too complicated. Just post some Gun Free Zone signs and call it good.

    • Chafed

      Let me guess who they voted for….

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Other residents who congregated on Saturday evening cited that they supported the planter containers, as some say they’ve seen the benefits of the connecting streets being closed down.

    Maybe they should erect a gallows.

    • Chafed

      Time to go full rooftop Korean.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        When your government has abdicated all responsibility that they assume for your safety, they are proving the case for the 2nd.

  30. dbleagle

    My grandparent’s generation was the WWII one. Also WWI great granduncle for my dad’s side. He was selected by the family to establish his clan in the US from a poor sub-village in Italy’s toe in 1912. When Italy entered WWI he returned “to fight for his country” and died on his second day at the Alpine front. After the war my great grandfather was selected to go back to America because the sub-village was still below dirt poor. He was already married so he brought his eldest two sons with him- one being my grandfather. When WWII came around my grandfather was working for a RR so wasn’t drafted. His brother was and was an infantryman in the ETO. He returned fine and used the GI bill to become a dentist. Something about the Army stuck with him and he retired from the Army as the top dentist. My paternal grandmother’s family had worse luck. Her brother was drafted and was a gunner in a B-17 that disappeared in a dirty gray puff when struck by flack. He was MIA until eventually declared dead after the war and his name is on the wall of the missing at US Military Cemetery in the UK.

    Years later my grandma was suffering from dementia, and I went to visit when the Army sent me TDY near their home. When I walked in my grandfather was going to introduce me to her when she said, “Stop it. I know my own brother.” and she remonstrated me for “Not coming home and worrying the family so much.” The entire visit I was treated as her lost brother. I was uncomfortable but could not bring myself to correct her. That visit was the last time I ever saw her.

    I guess it demonstrates that the missing can be harder that the known dead for the families.

    Now if you’ll excuse me I am going to walk on the beach and remember my Soldiers who died under my command in Iraq.

    • Fourscore

      I’ll walk with you, vicariously

    • Pat

      I was uncomfortable but could not bring myself to correct her. That visit was the last time I ever saw her.

      Heartbreaking, but in a way, maybe that was a belated catharsis for her. Good on you.

    • Evan from Evansville

      Woah. I hope it was, but If that wasn’t cathartic, reminding her of the truth would’ve been devastating, brutal for all involved.

      Indeed, *solemn hat tip* for staying ‘in character.’

  31. SarumanTheWoefullyIgnorant

    A wonderful moving tribute. I like the way you wove the various threads of the tale together.

    I did not serve, but my father did in WWII. 15th AAC B17 unit out of Tunisia and southern Italy in ’44-45. After that experience he claimed he never felt fear again for himself. My mother was a Rosie the Riveter during the same period. They met years later at college when he cut in on her during a dance and she begged him not to leave her (she disliked her previous partner). He didn’t until he died over 60 years later.

    When I remember what he went through then (and he had it good compared to the grunts on the ground) and the abject poverty he grew up in in southern Appalachia I always try to remind myself how good I have had it. And who paid the ultimate price and how many so that I could live the life I’ve had.

  32. Toxteth O'Grady

    My grandfather, also a veteran, was born within a month of William Nelson but lived much longer (Army, Europe).

    • Ted S.

      Your grandfather couldn’t wait to get on the road again?

  33. Shpip

    Thanks for reading this, y’all.

    This wasn’t easy to write, but I thought the story needed to be told.

    • R C Dean

      Thanks for writing it, Shpip.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Indeed

    • Evan from Evansville

      Indeed, indeed. My grandfathers served in WWII but neither ever saw combat. Or came close. (Burma, France post ’45). Everything of sacrifice and loss, none of that passed down to my generation. Only one great-grandfather was in WWI, and Dad’s biggest regret is that he never talked to him about it. Apparently, it wasn’t a thing talked about.

      So I only hear things. I can’t internally *feel* them, so it’s best to read stories and examples to put it together, best I can.

      Sincere thanks.

    • kinnath

      Thank you for the wonderful post.

  34. Tonio

    RIP James and William.

    I just read this and wish to add my voice to the chorus of appreciation for this heartfelt and well-written piece.

  35. Pat

    I’m named after my layabout, alcoholic, drug-abusing, wife-beating biological father. His middle name was James. I’d rather have had that one. Although then you’ll almost inevitably end up a Jim, or worse, Jimmy, which I don’t care for. Anyway, he joined the marines and did his stint in Vietnam, mostly as a tunnel rat owing to his wiry build, from what I’m told. Needless to say he made it back, and spent the next 20 years generously distributing his putrid genes among a half dozen or so women. Whenever I read these types of stories of the noble and decent young men whose lives were squandered there while that asshole made it home to smoke and drink away his VA benefits and ruin a few dozen lives, the injustice of it all is galling. I take a little solace in the words of whatever old sage actually wrote Ecclesiastes:

    I again saw under the sun that the race is not to the swift and the battle is not to the warriors, and neither is bread to the wise nor wealth to the discerning nor favor to men of ability; for time and chance overtake them all.

    • Fourscore

      “nor favor to men of ability; for time and chance overtake them all.”

      What? I wished I’d known this 50 years ago. Would have saved me a lot of hours that I could have used for fishing

  36. R C Dean

    Gotta respect the commitment to the grift here:

    Crowdfunded game has raised $1BB with a “b”.

    Starting in 2012.

    And hasn’t released a damn thing.

    • rhywun

      Looks like it is in some sort of Early Access but even Steam isn’t having it.

  37. Grummun

    Beautiful story, Shpip.

    My great-uncle Frank is in the American Cemetery in Normandy. I visited that cemetery when my wife and I went to France, but they occasionally close sections to allow the grass to recover, so I wasn’t able to see the headstone.

    Dad served during the Korean War, but as a mechanical engineer, he was stationed in Kentucky. The only story I remember him telling about the army was why they called one guy in the unit “the wedge”: “Mankind’s simplest tool.”

  38. CatchTheCarp

    I have visited the Arizona Memorial and the Punch Bowl, both were somber experiences. I developed an interest in WWII history in high school, especially the Pacific Theater. I devoured every book in the school library. Later on I learned that one of my best friends father who was also our baseball coach had served in the Navy during WWII. I asked my friend what ship his dad was on and he said he didn’t know, his dad never talked about it. I found it odd he didn’t know the name of the ship and that picqued my interest. I decided to ask his dad myself after our next practice. I was flabbergasted to learn that he had served aboard the heavy cruiser USS Vincennes which was sunk during the Battle of Savo Island off Guadalcanal August 9, 1942. I tried asking him about his experience but he made it clear that topic was off limits. When I told my friend about what transpired between me and his dad he told me he wasn’t surprised, his dad would never talk about the war and would get angry if pressed.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    New and different

    According to the Detroit Free Press, industry analysts say consumers are starting to grow tired of seeing the same SUV shape everywhere. Karl Brauer from iSeeCars described it as “SUV fatigue,” with buyers increasingly wanting vehicles that stand out rather than blend in. That trend appears especially strong among younger drivers. Research from Escalent found that 51% of teenagers surveyed picture themselves driving a sedan in the future, compared to just 31% who chose SUVs.

    Automakers are beginning to notice, too. Ford CEO Jim Farley has repeatedly hinted that the company could re-enter the affordable sedan market in the US, with many speculating a new sub-$40,000 sedan. That would mark a major reversal for Ford after abandoning traditional sedans years ago in the States. Stellantis could also be preparing a return to the segment, with reports suggesting Chrysler may introduce a new sedan-like vehicle in the future.

    Strangely enough, quite a few car companies around the world have been successfully making and selling sedans all along. It’s almost as if the decision to abandon sedans was a uniquely American phenomenon. The question is whether it was driven by the market or the boardroom.

    • Sensei

      Ex North America you can put car seats in front seats. Roads are narrower and parking more scarce.

      When you have a family, crash requirements, child seat requirements, snowy states and non mandated seasonal snow tires you understand how the boring AWD CUV became the appliance here.

      • Threedoor

        It was all because of the AMC Eagle and the Subaru wago.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And children must be in a child seat until age 26 and/or 74″ in height, which ever comes last.

    • Pat

      The question is whether it was driven by the market or the boardroom.

      Probably a little from column A, a little from column B, and a little from the column C that is regulatory market distortion. The move back to sedans could be driven in no small part by fuel economy concerns, the ridiculous price of new SUVs and larger vehicles, younger people having smaller families, and so many things moving to subscription delivery models now.

      • Threedoor

        I see no real difference between the modern crossover or ‘SUV’ and the old station wagons.

        The only difference to me is that an older station wagon is hard to get into and out of.

        My 70 Jeep Wagoneer was classified as a station wagon. Low seat, 3/4 size compared to a full sized pickup.

    • Threedoor

      The shape of cars are determined by stupid laws.

      Not stylists.

      • Sensei

        My favorite are European pedestrian standards. They dictate the boxy front. Designed to put you on the hood which is designed to crush.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        This is true.

        Specifically fuel mileage regulations. As they become more and more based in fairy tales manufacturers were forced to rely on aerodynamic design in order to meet them, and physics dictates what is aerodynamic, not engineers, designers, or boardrooms. So in the end they all look the same.

        I prefer bigger vehicles. I’ve had 2 kids in baseball for the last 12 years, and I like to be up off the road. I like to see out, and getting in a sedan makes me feel like my ass is dragging on the road. But that could be bias. My first car was a massive 1984 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser like this one. In the latter half of college I had a huge Chevy mini-van that we all called the Happy Meal that transported my friends and me to various SCUBA diving destinations throughout Florida.

      • Threedoor

        The mom
        Mobile is a 2016 Yukon with the 6.2L. It’s got 430 Hp And gets 20mph.

        It’s pretty ugly and the front seats are not roomy. That’s an issue with whomever designed the dash being under 5’6”

    • Gustave Lytton

      Thanks to government regulations on safety and fuel efficiency, it’s the same shape vehicle. Combine with color palette trends, and the manufacturers are just badge engineering these days.

      The real reason is Ford wants yet another platform to work the bugs out with recalls. Gotta pump those rookie numbers up!

    • rhywun

      I thought sedans were more or less regulated out of existence. But yeah I have a hard time believing that the fact that every car looks exactly like every other car is the result of anything related to the market.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        It isn’t that they were regulated out, but with the fuel consumption “laws” of the Obama years, trucks had a waiver that allowed them to do many of the things that sedans used to do quite well. Which is why big, four door pickups and SUVs became so much more common. They were considered trucks for Corporate Average Fuel Economy measures and didn’t count against the company. So, they started to push those instead of standard sedans and wagons.

      • Threedoor

        Zwak.
        Having a suburban or a four door f150 beats a station wagon or sedan any day.

      • Tres Cool

        I’m a sucker for an Expedition with your classic PowerSmoke dieselator.
        Never owned one. I just like them.

      • Threedoor

        Tres, those things hold their value.

        Ford should never have stopped making them for the U.S. civilian market.

  40. DrOtto

    Moving article. My father was fortunate to have served in the brief interlude of peace between Korea and Vietnam.

  41. dbleagle

    The lab where they work to identify the remains of America’s war dead is in Hawaii. You can reserve a space for their public tours and the military will grant you base access to take the tour. Because of the small tour sizes you don’t get the crowd issues you see at the Arizona or Oklahoma Memorials. (The USS Utah Memorial is never crowded.)

    https://www.dpaa.mil/

    It is fascinating. They explain the mission and how the DoD works with other countries to allow US teams to the sites to do the recoveries. The tour shows the pictures of those who have been found and the lists of who still need to be recovered. The highlight is when you go to the forensic lab. You aren’t allowed inside but you can watch them work on the remains through a wall of glass windows. In the middle of the lab hangs an American flag and all the remains are arranged so they “face” the colors. It is very moving.

    • Evan from Evansville

      Good on them. The Tomb of the Unknown is the only thing that evokes *anything* in me. I get teary typing the words.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Thank you. I was unaware that there are still three missing from Iraq. I kinda remember the Desert Storm and Libya ones, it’s good to remember that they’re still unaccounted for. Amazing how many missing Vietnam and Cold War men have been identified. The equivalent of entire divisions from WWII unknown and given the time elapsed, unlikely to make the massive strides of Vietnam though still working and not forgotten.

    • Sensei

      I still remember this:

      Michael Blassie

      What I didn’t know until now was that tomb remains vacant. Which in a sad way is a good thing.

  42. ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

    A good friend of mine is Austrian and once told me about his great uncle who had been drafted into the Wehrmacht. He ended up serving on three fronts: Europe, North Africa and Russia, finally surrendering to the Americans as the were the only ones who had any food.

  43. Derpetologist

    RIP James

    My middle name is the first name of an uncle who died in motorcycle crash before I was born and when he was about 20. In the family history my grandma wrote, the text stops on the day of the crash. I guess she couldn’t bear to write more about how her son died.

    Both my grandfathers were in the military during WW2 – one Army, the other Navy. The Army one had flat feet and so spent the war stateside doing odd jobs like making illustrations for training manuals. He gave me a collection of language and culture guides. This spurred me on to be an Army linguist later. I don’t know if he drew the illustrations for those manuals, but the artistic style looks like his handiwork. Here’s a sample:

    https://platedlizard.blogspot.com/2024/01/excerpts-from-ww2-era-us-military.html

    The Navy one finished officer school and was about to go to sea when the war ended. Rather than wait around for his discharge papers, he just absconded. Evidently there was a lot of that at the time.

    My dad opposed the Vietnam War but registered for the draft anyway as he felt it was his duty. He lucked out and was not selected. A college friend of his, a brilliant math student, volunteered for the Army and came back mentally broken. He never did math again.

    My brother joined the Army in 2006 and became a Blackhawk helicopter pilot. I think most here know the gist of my Army story. I don’t think anyone from my family was wounded, POW, MIA, or KIA. My surname is somewhat rare, and I share it with a KIA from WW2 and another from Vietnam.

    KIA get the most attention. Such deaths are glamorous in a macabre way. Deaths from accidents, disease, friendly fire, and suicide often get glossed over. There have been more US military deaths from suicide than combat every year since 2006. There were 2 suicides in my battalion in the 3 years I was in it. I attended a memorial service for one and it nearly left me in tears. Hopefully there have not been any more since I left.

    All gave some. Some gave all. Remember them.

    For those in a cynical mood, the following song is suggested:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWloySIHcvg

    Somber reflection for some, 3-day weekend for others. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

    • Threedoor

      We had one guy shoot himself but it was to get out of deploying.

      Loser.

      • Fourscore

        I was never deployed but I did have 6 overseas tours, for a total of 10 years, 8 being in Europe.

    • Ted S.

      Are both sides the bad guys here?

  44. ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

    Today in Stupid Is as Stupid Does, 2024 Democrate Election Autopsy edition:

    Instead, the autopsy focuses much attention on matters like ad buys and fundraising, without coming to terms with why so many voters in 2024 were uninspired by the Democratic ticket and what it stood for. The emphasis is on the mechanics of the party as an electoral vehicle, without substantively addressing why so many millions of disaffected voters – particularly the young – turned away and refused to turn out because they wanted the party to move in a very different direction.

    But the most extreme evasion in the autopsy is the dodging of the crucial importance of the Gaza genocide. In this way, the autopsy is in keeping with how the DNC has continued to function. As the governing body of the Democratic party, the DNC has twisted itself into untenable knots while excluding concerns about Gaza and Palestinians from any serious internal debate. Martin, like the party’s congressional leaders Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, has continued to pretend that the US government has not been arming Israel’s genocide.

    Gaza. That is what kept Kamalamadingdong out of the White House.

    Gaza.

    JHTFC

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/24/democrats-2024-autopsy-fails-confront-truth

    • rhywun

      It’s about time they got around to blaming the fucking Jews. What took them so long?

    • Sensei

      I’m sure transitioning preschoolers got the attention it deserved in there too.

    • Gustave Lytton

      For a group that controls the world, they fucking suck at conducting a genocide.

    • Brochettaward

      I love that the DNC put a shit ton of money into making this dumb report to basically tell them they spent money stupidly and that Kamala was an unlikeable dumb cunt only for the party itself to doubt the findings and to scribble in the margins demanding sources for this or that claim. That’s the gist of what I’ve gotten out of all this.

      The GOP is a mess, but the DNC is a dumpster fire. There’s no leadership there let alone competency or order. Dare I say that identity politics has basically decimated the actual leadership of the party. In 2008 Obama inherited a functioning party with operatives who had some idea of what they were doing. His people left it a hollowed out husk where everything was about victimhood status, melanin levels, and vag-status only to add dudes in dresses a bit later.

      Like, for the first time in my life the right seems more organized even if only by comparison.

    • Sensei

      A typical new EV costs around $55,000 to $58,000, far above the $44,000 average household income for Native Americans. Poverty rates in these communities are disproportionately high.

      No way…

    • R.J.

      Tell me something I don’t know. Should have just given them the money to open casinos and cigarette stores, that would have had a more positive impact.

      • SarumanTheWoefullyIgnorant

        Indian reservations show what happens when land is owned communally. The tribal leaders effectively become the owners of not just the land but the people on it.

      • R.J.

        It’s just another form of socialism/communism. And it fails, just like it.

    • Threedoor

      Those cables stripped bring in about $3 a pound.

  45. R.J.

    A relaxing evening. I am roasting a chicken and baking breaded pork chops.

    • Common Tater

      I just celebrated those who died for our country by falling asleep on the couch for three hours.

      • Shpip

        The first thing I did when I got out of bed this morning was roll a fat joint.

        My ankle’s been killing me all day.

  46. CatchTheCarp

    As far as nicknames go you can do a lot worse than Petey or Pesty. When I was a kid there was a poor sap who was known as Peterface. He lived on the other side of our subdivision so I have no idea how he earned that moniker. I also never knew his real name.

    • Gdragon

      He sounds like a descendant of Richard Head.

    • Akira

      In my town there is a Peters Road, named after a local prominent family.

      They had a daughter and literally named her Fonda.

  47. creech

    It sure was dusty in here today.

    • R.J.

      Indeed.

  48. Common Tater

    “Prolific self-parodist Taylor Lorenz wants Mayor Zohran Mamdani to do something about what she calls the woeful state of the Big Apple’s vegan cream-cheese offerings.

    The former Washington Post journalist and N95 mask superfan uncorked a Sunday morning treatise urging New York City bagel shops “get with the times” and provide more appealing choices.

    “The bagels in LA suck, but all the LA bagel shops at least use cashew-based vegan cream cheese. NYC bagel shops almost never have vegan cc or they’re using hyper processed Tofutti [vomiting emoji]. I hope Zohran can remedy this,” the recent Big Apple expat wrote on X.”

    https://nypost.com/2026/05/25/media/taylor-lorenz-whines-nyc-bagel-shops-dont-use-good-vegan-cream-cheese/

    I didn’t know lizards were vegetarian.

  49. Derpetologist

    I’m listening to Trump’s Memorial Day speech and learned about this guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_L._Ware

    ***
    Keith Lincoln Ware (23 November 1915 – 13 September 1968) was a United States Army major general, and a Medal of Honor recipient of World War II. Ware was killed in action in 1968 while commanding the 1st Infantry Division during the Vietnam War.
    ***

    I still feel compelled to post this:

    https://platedlizard.blogspot.com/2025/01/gallows-humor-battle-of-buna-gona-1943.html

    • Derpetologist

      ***
      One account states that Communist forces used a captured American radio to lure Ware’s helicopter into an ambush.
      ***

      The communists recruited Vietnamese who could speak English with an American or Australian accent. They would then put in fake medevac calls and shoot down the helicopters that came. I learned this from reading the NSA Cold War archives.

      The enemy is always smarter than you think.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUrAMxmO_A

      • dbleagle

        Derp, Your first gallows humor photo is historical.

        That was the first photo of WWII that the USG released for publication showing US KIA.

  50. one true athena

    Of the in-laws laid to rest at Punchbowl, I knew only my father-in-law who was career Army. He served in Korea and Vietnam as a combat medic and had two Purple Hearts. During Korea he was injured and lifted to Japan for treatment. When he improved, he hoped he’d be sent home to Hawaii, but instead they sent him back into Korea. I can’t really imagine the awful things he saw doing that, and he certainly never talked about them with me, but the bravery to keep doing it. He was a remarkable man, though very modest and quietly kind.

  51. Spudalicious

    A moving tribute, shpip. Got a little dusty while I was reading it.

  52. Common Tater

    Is ground chicken topped with melted cheese a cheese chickenburger or a chicken cheeseburger?

    • R.J.

      Chicken cheeseburger. I made them for a while. Hard to hold together unlike beef or pork.

      • R.J.

        I have had many bourbons and deep thoughts so I have forgotten humor.

      • Common Tater

        Really? I never tried a pork burger, but for me chicken holds together as well as beef, and better than turkey.

    • rhywun

      It sounds like an abomination.

      • Tres Cool

        Sounds like a start to some nachos.

      • R.J.

        This is right think

      • Common Tater

        It’s good. Also much easier to fit the bread than chicken cutlet because you can shape it any way you want.

  53. Derpetologist

    Memorial Day movie suggestions for curmudgeons

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Sam_(film)

    ***
    Uncle Sam is a 1996 American black comedy slasher film directed by William Lustig, written by Larry Cohen, and starring Isaac Hayes.

    In the film, Sam Harper is killed by friendly fire during a military operation in Kuwait. His corpse is returned to his family in time for the Independence Day celebrations, but then returns to life as a revenant. Sam dresses himself in an Uncle Sam costume and goes on a killing spree. His widow and his sister inform Sam’s nephew that Sam was a psychopath in life, and that he joined the military in hopes of satisfying his bloodlust. Meanwhile, Sam blames his former mentor for glorifying war in his tales, and for inspiring him to join the military.
    ***

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homecoming_(Masters_of_Horror)

    ***
    Soon, the soldiers killed in Iraq actually do start returning from the dead. However, they are not back to feast on the living, or even to get revenge on the president and his supporters. They just want a chance to vote in the upcoming election. “We’ll vote for anyone who ends this war,” one explains.
    ***

    It’s amusing that the whole premise of the movie is dead people voting for a Democrat.

    • R.J.

      Nice. We will do Animal Farm (1950s version) this Thursday.

    • rhywun

      I remember liking a lot of Masters of Horror but that one did not leave any impression maybe because “too political” for my taste.

      • R.J.

        That seems like 60% of what I preview now. Just overruns with political crap. Makes me lose faith in humanity.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    She wants the mayor of New York to do something about vegan cream cheese…

    Priorities, man. You got to git yore mind right.

    • rhywun

      The beauty of being a brain-damaged leftist is you can always plausibly claim you were kidding because who is going to challenge them.

  55. R.J.

    This is probably too blue for Shpip, but it’s great. It was on Redstate:

    What’s the difference between a chickpea and a lentil?

    I’ve never had a lentil on my face.

    • Threedoor

      Lentil.
      Wasent that a Barbra Streisand movie?

  56. J. Frank Parnell

    I’ve had relatives serve in every war we’ve had, but they almost all survived.

    I think my maternal grandmother’s brother died on Omaha Beach, and that’s the most recent relative who was KIA. Prior to that, I had a couple of great(x whatever) uncles die in a Confederate POW camp, but that’s about it.

    Maternal grandfather was in the navy and he was almost killed when his ship was sunk by the Japs, also had several great uncles who saw some serious shit in the South Pacific around that time, but they all survived, fortunately. One of them was behind enemy lines in the Philippines, another was the flamethrower guy taking out bunkers when the Marines went island hopping.

    Anyways, thanks to all who served and I’m glad you made it back.

    • R.J.

      My uncle did not survive WWII. I never got to meet hin.

    • Threedoor

      Flamethrower guys have low survival rates.

  57. Tres Cool

    Mom’s Dad, the other Grandpa Tres served in North Africa against Rommel, and then in Europe. He was a motarman in an infantry unit, and didnt talk too much about his time in other than “I know I killed people”. As that theater was winding down, his unit was being moved to the Pacific. Since my Mom was just born, he got a furlough to stop and see his kid while the rest were on a train for the west coast. The story I was told was that since he was a couple days behind, his unit was on a troop ship that was sunk in the Pacific. All were lost.
    A few days behind saved his life.

      • R.J.

        Seriously I’d just as soon ram them with my boar spear.

      • Tres Cool

        Are we even doing euphemisms now?

      • rhywun

        Yikes that classic deserves a video with better production values already.

      • Threedoor

        It’s what Vlad Tepes would do.

        Be like Vlad

    • Chafed

      Yes they are.

  58. rhywun

    Oh mercy… all my many CLE coworkers are going to be disconsolate tomorrow.

    • Chafed

      Does this involve soccer?

      • rhywun

        lol no

        Nothing else is on so I’m watching basketball of all things.

  59. rhywun

    Pet Peeve alert…

    A computer software utility I won’t name but which I find very useful went “paid” today. The author is gamely fielding numerous complaints from ungrateful assholes who find it UNFAIR to pay 9 bucks for current version or 25 bucks for lifetime updates.

    I see this over and over again – fucking cheap-ass ingrates who think nothing of paying five bucks for a cup of coffee or 15 to 20 bucks for lunch every day but complain when being “forced” to pay anything at all for a tool that they use literally hundreds of times a day.

    Oh and the basic version – minus some advanced features that used to be “free”, remains free.

    /rant

    • rhywun

      I should add that the author says the tool remains open source so one could compile it oneself if one desired.

    • UnCivilServant

      I keep wanting to buy a permanant license for MakeMKV given how much I’ve used it – but the payment processor the developer uses looks sketchy as hell.

      In the case of your utility, are they at least using a service that doesn’t scream “Scammer”?

      • R.J.

        Use a pre-paid card so you can’t get scammed.

      • rhywun

        Paddle which I believe I have used before & is legit.

    • Brochettaward

      Internet is a weird place where a lot of people give shit away for free and the value of things is all over the place.

      • rhywun

        I see the same shit with gaming & even more so. The same people who think nothing of blowing 15 or 20 bucks on a 2-hour film cry foul when asked to spend any amount on a videogame that typically provides many times longer entertainment.

        I just don’t get it.

      • Brochettaward

        I’ve always thought about that with the price of gaming.

        But yea, there are people who go online and put time into making shit for free and give it away. Not that it’s the same as designing a game from scratch, but I was into modding. Had an “overhaul” of a game that was pretty extensive and downloaded by 60k people with people asking to give money for the work and I wasn’t comfortable with it. But there are people who design them from scratch and give them away.

        I play Pokemon. I put hundreds of hours into each of those games no matter how flawed they are and how cheaply they were made. Is it worth the premium price for something that is like a minimum of 10 years behind the rest of the industry graphically and which they min-maxed to hell? I’d still say yea just because the core concept. But things get murky because you can literally find fan games that have more put into them that are free.

        Not sure quite where I’m going beyond the general point that you have a weird mix of monetization and passion projects online and the quality isn’t really determined based on what you’re getting very often. And digital media itself just feels more disposable than real world stuff. We see this with movies and music. When they left physical media, their perceived value declined greatly.

      • Threedoor

        The stern pole on pinball machine is fun.

  60. Derpetologist

    Some day, I will drink in this bar:

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-wishbones-of-mcsorley-s-old-ale-house-new-york-new-york

    ***
    But amidst all the relics of over 150 years of New York history, hanging over the bar’s electric lamps, lies a touching memorial to the First World War. McSorley’s started a tradition of giving soldiers departing for the front a leaving present of a turkey and ale dinner. The turkey wishbones were placed by the soldiers on the lamp rail hanging over the bar for good fortune and a safe return home. On their return, the lucky ones would take down their wishbone and celebrate long into the night. Visitors today glancing up over the bar will see two dozen wishbones, long since covered in dust, left behind by the young soldiers who didn’t return home.
    ***

    suggested music

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMa1gdmOrkA

    • R.J.

      I hope someday that I would join you for that.
      I do wish you well, and I hope you finish the 16 wheeler training.

  61. Brochettaward

    I like to put Firsts in the punch bowl at school dances.

    That’s what we’re talking about here right?

    • Brochettaward

      If you’ve been a bathroom at any bar/club and saw “The Bro was here” with a penis underlining it, that’s my calling card and you’ve probably drank one of my Firsts.

      • R.J.

        Heh.

      • Gdragon

        “If you’ve been a bathroom at any bar/club and saw “The Bro was here” with a penis underlining it, that’s my calling card”
        —————-

        Never been but I saw that bar in a movie

  62. rhywun

    For some reason the NJ governor thought the most appropriate use of her time today was to join an Islamist/communist action agitating in favor of illegal aliens. Because that is a totally expected thing to happen.

    • Chafed

      In NJ that may be the best use of her time.

      • rhywun

        They seem to be testing the waters to find out just how far they can take their malevolence and discovering that there is no limit to it whatsoever.

    • Brochettaward

      Liberal white women are a pox on civilizatoin. Cancer and super AIDS mixed into one.

      • Derpetologist

        Eh, just useful idiots. Like so many others.

        People who have dished out or barely survived lethal violence are rare and often ignored.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRpV0GePYeM

      • Brochettaward

        Useful idiots are useful because they exist in the large numbers needed to actual accomplish shit in real world political battles.

        The thought leaders of the left would be nothing without them.

      • R C Dean

        I see no contradiction between “useful idiot” and “a pox on civilization”.

    • Threedoor

      Why were crew served weapons not deployed?

    • Sean

      Pathetic.

  63. Evan from Evansville

    Tomorrow’s my last day of my contract (full day, certainly) and I’ve got a piece coming out here. I hope y’all enjoy!

    Youngest nephew is happily sleeping the room adjacent, and he and I had a fantastic day. His mimicry was annoying for a spell, and he’s kinda exhausting, but the first opportunity like this I’ve had w any of ’em.

    Interesting times, they are. Do well, today, when it actually ‘becomes’ today.

  64. Akira

    Wasn’t there somebody here who was in the HVAC field? I’m curious what it takes to get into that.

    I know my current job could be done by AI stupidly easy. My next plan was programming, but with all the news of developers getting laid off, I’m not sure that’s a good idea anymore. I just need something that will last me until retirement (~30 years or so).

    I found a place online to take the “EPA 608 Universal” test and a study guide on Amazon.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Not a HVAC, but I do hold a limited energy (low voltage) license and chat with our hvac vendors a bit. Depends on your state’s licensing. May require apprenticeship and schooling before licensing, similar to electricians. Some states are more formal/gatekeeping, some are much less with pay accordingly. Like pretty much any trades, can be scraping or can make decent money but either way you’ll likely earn it with your body. On the business side, there’s an increasing roll up of companies (by “PE”, same with other trades, vet practices, etc etc) and some are pushing their techs to make sales.

      Trades are also being affected by AI. What used to be more independent be your own boss sort of thing is now micromanaged tracking by cell phone and driver facing cameras, all collecting data and analyzing it for flaws. No problem if you can be 100% perfect 100% of the time. It’s only going to get better.

    • Threedoor

      Yuseph. Or however it’s spelled

    • Threedoor

      Even Idaho requires aprentishipe and a bunch of BS for HVAC. Unions write the rules.

    • Ted S.

      Well, what did you expect, and it’s not exactly sex-related….

    • PieInTheSky

      and don’t forget a little extra so Pie can get his billion dollars which was promised to him

      • Ted S.

        That money was lost in a boating accident.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, Sean and Ted’S., and good afternoon, Pie!

    • rhywun

      Nice 🎶

  65. Fourscore

    Morning and back to work. The garden ain’t gonna plant itself.

    Well, actually it will but it’ll be called a wilderness plot or weed patch or wildlife mismanagement area.

  66. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam
    whats goody

    /back to work

    • Ted S.

      Ferrari, or stocks in general?

      • Sensei

        Ferrari. Broader market points to up.