Wednesday Morning Links

by | Feb 7, 2024 | Daily Links | 400 comments

No sports, aside from mentioning that Ohio State needs to fire Holtmann before the season ends. This shit is inexcusable.  Now on to the links.

“You have the right to get nekkid.”

They have a Bill Of Rights. It’s the same one that applies to everybody else.  The only petitioning about bills of rights I want to see is petitioning to repeal the special bills of rights for government workers, like cops, that a lot of states have.

I’ve seen this movie before. And now I want to know where Monty Brewster is. Also, John Candy was taken from us too early.

Good. That’s what they’re supposed to do. I assume there will be floods of complaints about it though. Not sure if Ben Crump or Al Sharpton will get there first though.

Scum

This is insane. I assume there will be outrage over it from the left.  Outrage that these homes aren’t being given away to people because they’re empty, that is.

Leave this poor nerd alone. The information is public record and he’s doing nothing wrong.

He should have joined the union. Now he’s gotta go to the robot rubber room, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a real thing.

What a freaking joke. If his actions don’t lead to an impeachment, then I don’t know what does.

This will be interesting. Especially since Disney publicly blasted her statements before firing her while not saying much at all about another actor that called half the country nazis.

Here’s a beautiful song. Just gets straight down to business. And here’s another. Enjoy them both.

And enjoy this lovely Wednesday, dear friends.

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  1. PieInTheSky

    Leave this poor nerd alone. The information is public record and he’s doing nothing wrong.

    The Queen’s actions should not be questioned by the plebs.

  2. PieInTheSky

    This will be interesting. Especially since Disney publicly blasted her statements before firing her while not saying much at all about another actor that called half the country nazis. – typical for an entitled white chick. It only reinforces the fact that Disney did the right thing.

    • PieInTheSky

      Carano was born in Dallas County, Texas,[5] and raised in Las Vegas, Nevada,[6] the daughter of Dana Joy Cason and casino executive and former professional football player Glenn Carano – super extra privileged

    • Suthenboy

      Are Eyetalians considered white these days?

      • juris imprudent

        Hispanics are whites when it is convenient or necessary.

      • Not Adahn

        In some parts of the country they’re just white.

      • R C Dean

        See, e.g., Tejanos.

        There’s a reason few illegals stick around in South Texas even though there are lots of “Hispanics” there. The Tejanos (descended from Hispanics from when it was still Mexico) really don’t like Mexicans in general (and, I’m sure, other Latin Americans), and illegals in particular.

  3. SDF-7

    This is insane. I assume there will be outrage over it from the left. Outrage that these homes aren’t being given away to people because they’re empty, that is.

    Reaction 1: Hmmm…. Fulton County. Wonder what might be going on there distracting the DA from what they’re supposed to be doing… gee.. let me think…

    Reaction 2: Send the Washington State strippers there and let them fight it out with the squatter strip club?

    Reaction 3: The war against law and order certainly seems to be won — and not by the side I’d prefer. I’m still surprised El Salvador style backlash hasn’t kicked in for us, personally.

    • juris imprudent

      #3 – most voters aren’t effected. Crime is something they hear about, not directly experience.

    • Drake

      4. Eventually some non-government actors will start offering “eviction services” for hire. People will pay and not care where the bodies are dumped.

  4. PieInTheSky

    This is insane. I assume there will be outrage over it from the left. Outrage that these homes aren’t being given away to people because they’re empty, that is.

    Eh real property rights are probably on their way out. We had a good run.

    • R C Dean

      Two words:

      Molotov. Cocktails.

      Why not? Getting the insurance payout is probably the best option for the owner once squatters move in for an extended period and wreck the place.

  5. WTF

    Nikki Haley losing to “None of these candidates” is just perfect.

    • SDF-7

      Seems like it should be a real trend — the California Senate primary leaps to mind.

    • Ownbestenemy

      It was such a misstep by her campaign. She would have gotten probably above the ‘none of these candidates’ if she joined the caucus instead and went head to head against Trump. Instead she gave the opportunity for voters to express their disdain of her.

      • Nephilium

        It gives a very nice autoreply to the spam e-mails and texts from Nikki though.

      • R.J.

        I saw Pence was on there too, he got 4% of the vote. He is the definition of loser. I think the only support Nikki got was from democrats.

        Who’s taking bets on Nikki staying in the race anyway?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I think those are throw away votes from older people that haven’t seen the change in winds and still think they need to vote for someone. Pence was a name they recognized and they did it.

      • R C Dean

        I’ll take the over on Super Tuesday. She’s too useful to too many people at least that long. Everybody knows the only reason she’s still in the race is to step in when Trump gets barred from running.

      • Not Adahn

        Yes, except, the other candidates have only suspended their campaigns. There’s no reason they couldn’t reactivate them of Trump were actually out of the race. I’d think that the R base is sufficiently NeverNikki to swing en masse to either Ronnie or Vivek.

    • Pope Jimbo

      “None of these candidates” should be an option for every race.

      • mindyourbusiness

        ^THIS1^

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I would be more likely to vote.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I did enjoy that aspect every time I voted in Nevada. I got to present my disdain not just in staying home, but have it documented and reported.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        I am ZWAK, and I approve this message.

    • Drake

      She’s running lots of ads on SC right now. I might bother to vote in the primary in hopes of ending her campaign.

  6. SDF-7

    he’s doing nothing wrong.

    He embarrassed their current golden calf. The heretic must be stoned.

    (But yeah — if the information is delayed and little more info than her published tour schedules, knock it off there TayTay.)

    • sloopyinca

      Wait until somebody gets mobbed when they land somewhere off schedule and this guy gets charged by some retarded DA as an accessory to a crime he had nothing to do with.

      It’ll happen.

      • WTF

        Well, we’ve recently established that you can be convicted for something somebody else did.

      • Rat on a train

        The DA knows his intentions even if his actions don’t reveal them.

    • WTF

      She’s upset about the info because it shows how much CO2 she’s generating with all her private jet travels. Can’t have the hypocrisy exposed.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Sheeeeit*, do you think any of the ruling class gives to shakes of a rats ass about that?

        *that is two scoops of shit.

    • R C Dean

      A few questions:

      How real-time is what he publishes? Can it even be used to intercept her at an airport?

      Has there been a single instance of her being harassed that can be tied to his site?

      • SDF-7

        From what I skimmed yesterday, it is based on publicly available information (flight plan records I think) put out by the FAA. He just cares to look and must know her jet’s tail number is all.

        Expect the “Protect Taylor Swift’s Tail Act” to swiftly pass Congress and delay all flight plans of popular people or something. Just to prevent any bad blood.

      • Ownbestenemy

        If you know her aircraft tail number, its near instantaneous and yes, could be used to intercept her or any other aircraft. Has there actually been any threats other than paparazzi? My guess no. Speaking of, I guarantee all the Hollywood rags have been doing this for decades.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Hello, TMZ.

      • creech

        Didn’t this kind of info figure in the Gordon Gecko movie 35 years ago?

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m waiting for a new Federal Law that makes some people’s FAA records private.

      It will be similar to getting a concealed carry permit in NYC. If you have the right connections you’ll be able to get it. If you are dirty plebe, no way.

      • SDF-7

        Exactly… the aforementioned “Protect Taylor Swift’s Tail Act of 2024”.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Its a twofer! Well done your holiness..well done.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Errr…SDF not the Pope.

      • Ownbestenemy

        You can request it to be private if you reach the threshold of ‘security threat’. However, I think it should be private from the get go, especially if its general aviation. Imagine the ability to have public access to your vehicle, your planned route for the day, owner information, etc.

      • Sensei

        Fly VFR!

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Fly VPN!

      • Dr Mossy Lawn

        ADSB out with your full ICAO code# is required in much of the airspace. and once you have equipped you may not intentionally turn it off. You can read about Martha Lunken’s problems in this area. So this isn’t quite about private data.. the government requires you to transmit your code + location in the clear 100% of the time.

        They are working on “rolling” ICAO codes where you can change them every few months, but that won’t protect a majorly surveilled person like Tswift. All you have to do is have one person at the airport match the N number against the current code, and now you get to correlate all of their flights. This is really for Netjets and other major players who aren’t tightly tracked, but people go “what have they done in the past year” .

        https://www.adsbexchange.com/ is the open site that doesn’t block data.

      • R C Dean

        Well, the public may not have access to that information, but the Tech Lords (and thus the government) do.

      • R C Dean

        And in my book, at least, any info that the government has access to isn’t private.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Very true point.

      • tripacer

        I would actually support that. If you type in the registration number on my plane, N-####, my home address comes up.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Good to see my stakeholders chime in! Speaking of…get ready in the near future for some ATC services to be unreliable as we continue to cut the technical workforce.

      • Dr Mossy Lawn

        Some people register their planes in a Delaware LLC to get around that problem. Your license is fully public as well.

      • robc

        And if you type in addresses in many (all?) states property datatbases, you can see who owns it and how much they pay in property tax. And zillow has the information too, but they don’t show the owner’s name.

        I used to play around with the KY one a lot.

      • UnCivilServant

        I know for my city you can look up the owner of a lot in the tax map – then go to the tax payments page of the same site using the lot ID and the owner’s name see how much they owe in tax and water and even make payments for them if you want.

  7. SDF-7

    If his actions don’t lead to an impeachment, then I don’t know what does.

    I may have to track down what the hell McClintock was thinking… he’s normally pretty level headed… but does sometimes do stupid crap like “Only if I get motion on some spending cuts” (similar to the Freedom Caucaus voting against the Israel-only package last night because there wasn’t offsetting spending cuts included).

    But yes — it befuddles me.

    • SDF-7

      Ok… so apparently he doesn’t believe breach of the oath of office is an impeachable offense: https://mcclintock.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/mcclintock.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/the-case-against-the-impeachment-of-mayorkas.pdf

      Interesting read — I’m still not sure I agree with him, but at least he laid out his arguments.

      My counter proposal would be that there’s then only one method Congress can use to neuter a federal official acting expressly against his oath of office — defund the Executive until he resigns. Which is rather extreme — but there’s nothing else they can do if you go with his argument that I can see.

      And we all know that isn’t going to happen.

      • R C Dean

        So apparently the oath of office is meaningless, as violating it should carry no consequences at all?

      • SDF-7

        Apparently. Or to be generous — the oath is to support the Chief Executive. And if the Chief Executive doesn’t want to actually enforce the laws, that isn’t the flunky’s fault or something.

        Which is true as far as it goes…. and he’s also right that this was meaningless and would flop in the Senate anyway.

        Which is to say — it all sucks in any event. Congress most especially.

      • sloopyinca

        I don’t follow his reasoning. If a president were to order the military to stand down when an invading force landed in California because he wanted it attacked, would that refusal to honor his oath not be impeachable?
        The answer is yes.

        Any official who refuses to honor their oath and carry out the duties, which is to faithfully enforce the constitution and laws of the land, should be impeached.

      • SDF-7

        He’d probably argue that rises to “treason” and the current crap doesn’t.

        Hence “I’m not sure I agree with him”.

      • R C Dean

        And removed from office. Don’t forget the important part.

        Impeachment is an indictment. The trial is in the Senate.

        And I would have some respect for the position that “You don’t indict someone unless you think you will get a conviction, so you shouldn’t impeach someone if you don’t think the Senate will remove them. Otherwise, its just cheap political theater.”

      • juris imprudent

        Since the Senate confirms all the appointees it might be nice if they could at least vote no confidence in them afterwards.

      • Ownbestenemy

        which is to faithfully enforce the constitution and laws of the land

        This is where it breaks down. This administration has made it clear that any person under the Executive branch, myself included, does not owe its allegiance to the Constitution, but to the president.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Elliot Richardson shouldn’t have resigned.

      • Sensei

        We’ve got politicians that regularly break real laws and that is completely ignored.

        This seems like nothing compared to that. I’ve got way more to be outraged about than this.

        Special Counsel Probe of Biden’s Classified Documents Is Complete
        Lengthy report will criticize Biden and is set to be released as soon as this week

        Wow – after stonewalling Biden’s going to get a nice tongue lashing. If you or I did this we’d be looking at fun times behind bars.

        https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/special-counsel-probe-of-bidens-classified-documents-is-complete-3ef25b3a?st=cy7aqcjvpd45eo7&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    • juris imprudent

      What? The glorious Freedom Caucus staked out a wrong position?

      • SDF-7

        A shocker, I know. They’ve shown such savvy compromise abilities in the past and worked carefully to actually move their agenda forward instead of demanding everything and getting nothing. Who could have seen this coming?

      • R C Dean

        I have zero problem with anybody saying that any bill for spending money not budgeted has to have offsetting cuts in spending.

      • SDF-7

        Budgeted? How 2000s!

        More seriously — I can see your point, but I’d rather have single issue bills honestly so you can clearly see what your Representative did/didn’t vote for instead of the “Baby Lovers of America Act 2024” which has 10000 unrelated pages in there including torturing beagles and funding Chinese bio-weapon labs or something. So I’d prefer getting a separate spending cut bill and have it pushed by the majority together in such cases, then it can be properly debated and amended and whatnot.

      • juris imprudent

        Like – balanced or something???

      • R C Dean

        Oh, pish. The Dems were going to impeach Republicans regardless.

        In the unlikely event there is another Republican administration, that is.

      • R.J.

        Yes. Democrats started this with Trump. It really is meaningless. And both sides will now use it with abandon. I see this as a positive development as now congress won’t have time to pass laws.

      • Grosspatzer, Superstar

        Seriously? How much time does it take to pass laws if you don’t actually read the bills some staffers prepared?

      • juris imprudent

        I wonder how long it will take for there to be the single annual legislation?

      • Ownbestenemy

        If we could ever get to single issue bills, I would be highly in favor of Congress meeting only once a year unless the States agreed upon an emergency session of Congress for declaration of war.

      • CPRM

        I would be highly in favor of Congress meeting only once a year unless the States agreed upon an emergency session of Congress for declaration of war.

        I’m in favor of not having a standing federal government, they should only convene for emergencies.

    • Cunctator

      —“If his actions don’t lead to an impeachment, then I don’t know what does.”—

      I think we all know what leads to being impeached. Being a Republican.

      • SDF-7

        Be fair — if a Libertarian or Green actually got in a position they’d care about, they’d happily impeach them too. (Or if they dug up a Blue Dog Dem).

        “Not of the Body” encapsulates it.

    • rhywun

      If his actions don’t lead to an impeachment, then I don’t know what does.

      Nothing does.

      It is a teaching moment for the country – barring some supernatural turnabout, the GOP is as dead as it was through half of the last century. If not longer – the machine the Dems have put in place seems much stronger than it was then.

      • rhywun

        An example of said machine I wasn’t even aware of until last night.

        The voters knew that mail-in voting allows fraud so they voted it down.
        The legislature simply did an end-run around the voters, again.

        The GOP gamely tries to put a stop to the increasing radicalism & the Dems just lie through their fucking teeth and win anyway. Rinse ‘n’ repeat.

      • ron73440

        Sigler’s opponent, incumbent State Senator Lea Webb, said in a statement the ruling was a “victory not only for voter rights but for the very root of our democracy.”

        I hate these soundbite people.

        Please explain how this is a victory for “the very root of our democracy”.

      • rhywun

        very clear attempt by Republicans to shut out working New Yorkers from being able to vote on their own time in a way that is most convenient for them

        There was never any constitutional right to a “vote on their own time in a way that is most convenient for them”.

        JFC the mendacity. But yeah, this is exactly why they’re winning. They play the game and the other side does not.

      • juris imprudent

        I don’t know about that. If it hadn’t been for Dobbs, I think the Dems would’ve been blasted last election. That really saved them.

      • rhywun

        Enh, they would have found something else to prop everything up. They do that.

      • R C Dean

        One way to look at it is, abortion drove Dem turnout and reduced the amount of fraud needed. But there is apparently ample fraud on tap regardless. So who can say that the outcome would have been any different?

        In some ways, the scary thing is how many people are willing to commit voter fraud. Talk about the rot running deep.

      • Ownbestenemy

        After nearly 15 years of leaving California, contacting the election boards, demanding I be removed from their voter rolls, I still get a mail in ballot from them — two state moves later. It will be interesting to see if Nevada does the same.

      • DrOtto

        How often is voter fraud pursued criminally? Unless you have an R behind your name, you aren’t likely to be charged, so where is the downside for the perpetrators?

      • dbleagle

        “If your vote is the only thing keeping a Nazi at bay, isn’t breaking ONE little law worth it?” I imagine would be the Dem response.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Its your duty to do such brave acts to save Democracy!

      • juris imprudent

        Like climate change? Bwahahahaha

      • rhywun

        I do think that abortion has sealed the deal, for many decades most likely.

        I’ve never seen them so giddy about the procedure and I think we know why.

  8. PieInTheSky

    They have a Bill Of Rights. It’s the same one that applies to everybody else. The only petitioning about bills of rights I want to see is petitioning to repeal the special bills of rights for government workers, like cops, that a lot of states have.

    We can have an identical Bill of Rights for each group. Just copy/paste and add the group name.

    I don’t get the point of strippers myself, but I thought there are big burly bouncers in strip clubs keeping customers in line.

    • Fourscore

      “I don’t get the point of strippers myself”

      C’mon, man, that’s because you’re not a fisherman. Lots of people like to catch stripers

      • Nephilium

        Never tagged you as a Stryper fan Fourscore. 🙂

      • Pope Jimbo

        The mosh pit at the Honey Harvest goes berserk when Fourscore cranks the Stryper.

  9. R C Dean

    “If his actions don’t lead to an impeachment, then I don’t know what does.”

    Joining a Republican administration?

    • Cunctator

      Sorry RC, I didn’t see your post when I posted.

      • Nephilium

        Never apologize.

        I’m sorry, that’s just the way I am.

      • Cunctator

        ISWYDT

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        I like the cut of your jib!

  10. Pope Jimbo

    We’ve been told that we’ll own nothing and like it.

    Wonder if the ruling class have thought about the converse. You’ll get no rent and like it.

    • SDF-7

      I thought that was rather the whole point. Life-As-A-Service… we perpetually pay the elites for everything again, like the serfs of old.

      • juris imprudent

        Well there is the small problem that serfs didn’t actually pay for much, or get much. But yeah, other than that, it’ll be just like that.

    • Fourscore

      Now I feel like a chump for paying rent all those years and on time too.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I bet you still pay for stuff at the store too!

        Get with the times Fourscore. All the hep cats just walk out of the store with whatever they want. No need to pay for that.

        Of course, the jackpine savages you live amongst might not be woke enough to appreciate you modern attitude and lead to unfortunate results.

    • Cunctator

      —“We’ve been told that we’ll own nothing and like it.”—

      The part of this that I don’t understand (off course, there is a lot about that I don’t understand) is if we are to be happy renting things we want/need, who are we renting them from. At some point, there needs to be things owned and available to rent/borrow/lease. Who will own them?

      • Nephilium

        Why the benevolent government* of course. They’ll handle all public property, and you’ll be allowed personal property, but not private property.

        *Insert central committee/organizing party of choice here if you want

      • R C Dean

        The state, comrade. With the assistance of enlightened and public-spirited non-government organizations, because we aren’t Communists(tm).

      • juris imprudent

        public-spirited non-government organizations, because we aren’t Communists(tm)

        So, the Mob? You do actually get better service from them than any other NGO. It just costs ya.

  11. juris imprudent

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4452003-house-torpedoes-standalone-israel-aid-bill/

    Bi-partisan support and opposition! But the real kicker:

    On the policy, Democrats are broadly supportive of the move to provide Israel with a new round of military aid. But the GOP’s Israel-only bill excludes other provisions they favor, including humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza, help for Taiwan, security funding for the U.S.-Mexico border and new military funding for Ukraine.

    Among those provisions, the Israel portion enjoys perhaps the most bipartisan support. And heading into Tuesday’s vote, Democrats were wary of separating out the popular provision that could help catalyze passage of a broader national security package in the future.

    “I don’t think anybody can accuse him of being anti-Israel,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), referring to Biden. “But he knows that if we pass this, the other stuff is dead.”

    • R C Dean

      “But the GOP’s Israel-only bill excludes other provisions they favor, including humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza, help for Taiwan, security funding for the U.S.-Mexico border and new military funding for Ukraine.”

      So introduce bills for the other stuff you want. This isn’t exactly parliamentary 4D chess.

      Oh, (some of) it won’t pass on its own merits? Maybe you should think about that.

      • juris imprudent

        Maybe you should think about that.

        Oh we have, and it’s what we want and we don’t give a rat’s ass about what the people want.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I suspect the conversations have always been “The American public would revolt if we keep putting up bills for all this crap, lets just stuff them deep into other things they can stomach and they will forget about it the next day”

      • juris imprudent

        What do you know – they’re right about that too.

    • sloopyinca

      Dems: “you can’t pay for one side of the war. You’ve gotta pay for both sides!”

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        -Raytheon lobbyist, probably.

    • Grosspatzer, Superstar

      That kid that got mauled… Wow.

  12. Not Adahn

    Andrea, no last name given, who recently got her master’s degree in library sciences while working as a stripper in Seattle area clubs, plays a video game at her apartment, Thursday, Feb. 1, 2024, in Seattle.

    This is not a news article, it’s a Heinlein story.

    • Common Tater

      Needs bigger boobs, and nothing about her feet.

  13. Not Adahn

    It would also require training on how to de-escalate conflict between dancers,

    Ho-wrangling is a rare skill.

    Also, restricting the BoR to strippers is some whorearchical bullshit.

    • Pope Jimbo

      What do you think Santa does in the offseason?

      He can handle 3 strippers at a time. That is where his trademark “Ho Ho Ho” tagline came from.

    • Pope Jimbo

      whorearchical bullshit.

      Whoreshit?

      • Fourscore

        He was the worst one on the TV show, “Welcome Back, Kotter”

    • sloopyinca

      “You see, a pimp’s love is very different from that of a square.”
      -Officer Collins

  14. Not Adahn

    In October, an Atlanta neighborhood found itself at the center of a scandal involving squatters who transformed a home into an illegal strip club, complete with weekend parties and even live horses on the property.

    …I don’t think I want to know.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Wanted to show up those pikers who run donkey shows that America does everything bigger?

      • Not Adahn

        I haven’t spent that much time in Atlanta, but I didn’t know a strip club wasn’t considered “complete” unless it had sufficient livestock.

        Austin and Houston are not like that.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Donkey shows got too political.

    • Grosspatzer, Superstar

      Ask Fredo, I think he’ll know.

    • SDF-7

      Look, the stripper with the stage name of Moany really really wanted that song to be apropos, okay?

    • Pope Jimbo

      The horses were there to clean up after the young men who were spreading their wild oats.

      • SDF-7

        So they weren’t the mane attraction but more to rein in the need for cleanup?

        You’d think they would have just dragooned in some of the other squatters, but I suppose it would be hard to spur them into action.

      • sloopyinca

        I’m gonna hoof it before Swissy comes in and narrows his gaze.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah he really wrangled those puns.

      • Not Adahn

        “I had my issues with Blanke at one point,” the cop said, “and I started fucking with all their people. Anyone going to their house, I would pull over for an open container violation, for drinking. I would ticket every person going there. Every noise complaint, I would go there and cause a ruckus and make my presence known.”

        When you have QI, it’s easy to confess.

    • R.J.

      Everything gets boated in there. So much higher costs. Nice place.

      • Sensei

        Yup. The fact these guys are still driving a 2016 Tesla tells me they don’t simply spend just to spend.

        I was surprised to learn there are still large parts of the islands undeveloped with no utilities. And given the politics and costs little chance of getting them. So the whole off grid thing there is increasing.

  15. Shpip

    Bryan Caplan’s The Case Against Education is in the news once again.

    While the article was interesting, what caught my eye was the first comment. Paraphrasing:

    My line, from checking earnings by major off and on for a while:
    College degrees that start with calculus improve earnings
    College degrees that involve programming improve earnings
    College degrees that result in licensure (Accounting, Nursing) improve earnings
    Those salaries have averages much closer to $100k than 50.
    College degrees that don’t do 1 of the above barely nudge earnings at all.
    The rest mostly don’t.

    This mostly jibes with my experience. What do y’all think?

    • SDF-7

      Where do most MBAs start? I always assumed those Business / Finance folks knew what they were doing — and iirc, they had “Math for Business Majors” instead of the STEM courses. Had to assume they’d get statistics (or at least I hoped!) at some point, but nowhere near as strong on the Calculus track….

      Otherwise — “Yeah probably”. But being out of college for over 20 years , I wouldn’t swear to it.

      • Sensei

        Calculus is required undergrad for a BS in business and if you don’t have it on your MBA program you are expected to take it.

        Also statistics of various kinds including discrete math.

      • Sensei

        Mind you the last time I needed to do a Markov chain was in the 1980s!

      • R.J.

        I see MBAs applying for jobs with me, they have worked for years and barely crack $60K. Unless you are starting your own business I say it’s useless.

      • Nephilium

        Or if your company is going to pay for it.

      • Sensei

        Depends where you got it and what it is in.

      • trshmnstr

        It seems to be a good value add on an existing good degree. A former coworker of mine with a CS undergrad and a JD got his MBA and ended up jumping into leadership at another company after graduating. I don’t know how much his salary jumped, but it may have paid off the MBA in a year.

    • prolefeed

      Dunno how meaningful those stats are – kinda seems like cherrypicking by ending the analysis when you get the desired result. Plus dodgy stats to begin with.

      I mean, what does “starts with calculus” mean? You take calculus or you don’t.

      I didn’t pick my college major until my senior year. Coulda picked several different majors. Would that inconsequential decision affected future earnings?

      And MY earnings were no great shakes, but my first wife made huge amounts of money. Does the flowchart take joint earnings into account?

      Mrs. Prole (second wife) had one of the seemingly useless degrees, but was making six figures when we met, and then married someone (me) with a lot of assets from the divorce from the first wife.

      Shorter – account for joint household income – or assets – and that flowchart might flip mightily.

      • Sensei

        I mean, what does “starts with calculus” mean? You take calculus or you don’t.

        I assume its a shorthand way of saying prerequisite for multiple additional classes. You can’t take Stat 1 or Stat 2 until you have calculus, for example.

      • Shpip

        That’s how I looked at it. Kinda “If you’re not taking at least Calc I your freshman year, what the hell are you doing on campus besides wasting everybody’s time?”

      • Sensei

        …and/or getting a degree in communications.

      • R C Dean

        I don’t see how somebody’s degree and earnings affect your degree and earnings. If we’re looking at return on various degree programs, at least.

        You can make good money with any degree, but I think he’s looking at what the likelihood of a degree turning into a fat paycheck is There’s always exceptions and outliers. Famously, there are Tech Lords who never graduated from college, after all. And there’s no end of STEM grads and MBAs who have put one company after another into the ground.

        MBAs have been greatly devalued over the last generation anyway. Oversupply does that.

      • R C Dean

        somebody’s degree -> somebody else’s degree

      • Nephilium

        /cautiously raises hand

        Not a tech lord, but I’m making a solid living as a college drop out.

      • Grosspatzer, Superstar

        Not a tech lord, but I’m making a solid living as a college drop out.

        s/making/made/. Would probably have been easier with a sheepskin.

      • robc

        I make a pretty good living as a PhD dropout.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        High fives Neph and screams “one of us, one of us!”

    • Pope Jimbo

      My metric would be, how easy is it to argue with your professor about test answers and improve your grades?

      When I was a journalism major and taking all liberal arts classes, it was very easy to engage with a prof and explain why your answer was actually correct. Could easily add 10% to your grade on any test if you wanted.

      Rude awakening when I switched to being a EE major. Those profs were so strict. The unwoke bastards insisted that the only answer to 2 + 2 that would get you points on a test was 4. They didn’t want to hear about how those of us who had broken the shackles of our colonialist past all agree that 5 or even 6 is an acceptable answer.

      • trshmnstr

        I took poli sci stats and EE stats in the same semester. Talk about an eye opening experience. I got a grad school offer for my work in the poli sci class, and (IIRC) got a pedestrian A- in EE.

      • Sensei

        My metric would be, how easy is it to argue with your professor about test answers and improve your grades?

        I hadn’t thought about it like that, but I agree.

    • Mojeaux

      Put me on the “don’t bother with college” train, with caveats: a skill is important (e.g., XX driving a forklift), but…

      My son got a full-ride scholarship to MSU in the fall. Okay! Sounds great! What are you majoring in? English? WTF.

      But then…

      So my son works at Chipotle for more money an hour than I make as a medical transcriptionist. He was quickly promoted to kitchen manager. More money. He works very hard. A couple of days ago, he was called in to give a training on food safety (he got the cert a while back). While he was there, he was told that another Chipotle is being built in town and they are going to promote him to assistant manager (which, the way they do it, it’s called “apprentice to general manager”). This child, 18 years old, will be making $58k plus overtime.

      I told him to just forget college if he likes it there, because an English degree is going to do exactly bupkis for him. The kid’s a born manager (gets it from his dad, who managed convenience stores for decades) and he’s in his element.

      The money is there if you want to work and are able to work a physically demanding job.

      • Sean

        That’s some good coin at that age. Good for him.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Well, how well does he write? Only half-kidding.

        The years of lost wages are obvious, but a full ride… Does he want to go?

      • R C Dean

        A full ride to . . . where? To what end? The credential is likely worthless economically. The quality of the education in a Current Day humanities department is probably terrible, if not actually negative.

        Four years of playing Russian Roulette with regret-rape accusations seems like it should have some upside.

      • Mojeaux

        A full ride to . . . where? To what end?

        That’s my thinking, too.

        My dad was sold on the “you must get a degree in order to have a decent job,” and by “decent” he meant not pouring asphalt in the summer. He went that route, which was fine. At that time, it was true that a college degree would get you a job, but he was also of the “stay 20 years with a company and be loyal and get a pension” and somewhere in my young adulthood, that changed. Pensions faded into 401k’s and company loyalty was verging on exploitation (besides, I got burned out on “loyalty” in my dojo), so people started to job-hop for their raises.

        Now everybody goes to college whether they should or not. College was very difficult for me. Took me 9 years, but I worked almost the entire time and mostly paid for it myself. Getting the degree was an accomplishment. PAYING FOR IT MYSELF was what I take real pride in.

        Anyway, I had no choice at the time. The trades were hard to break into and I don’t think I could do that kind of physical labor. My dad saw it as a tool to escape from the trades and manual labor and assembly lines, which it was at the time.

      • ron73440

        I don’t see a reason for him to study english.

        At least he is doing well, and he sounds a little like my son.

        Joined the Marines after high school and had no desire to reenlist.

        Once he got out he went to work at a bar/restaurant as a barback where a friend of his worked in Raliegh.

        3 years later, he is the manager of the place.

        That job would drive me insane, but he seems to love it.

      • rhywun

        kid’s a born manager

        Yeah, that is a talent that seems to be in demand in the food industry. I sure don’t have it.

    • robc

      I commented on that comment right after that article was posted. And then drugs fell out of my ass.

  16. prolefeed

    To beat Rhywun to the punch – initially the vote was gonna be 215-215, then someone swapped their vote to avoid a tie (dunno why a tie is a problem).

    If the Stupid Party hadn’t voted to remove George Santos from office, the impeachment would have passed. Dumbasses.

    • WTF

      They really just want to be in on the grift while being able to throw up their hands and say they can’t do anything about it because they don’t have the majority. They love being the controlled opposition.

      • prolefeed

        “We can’t do anything because we don’t have ENOUGH of a majority – after expelling one of our staunchest members.”

        /RINOs

      • Pope Jimbo

        If you had a cushy job in Congress would you do anything to fuck it up?

        Guy makes a dumb decision and he could get bounced and have to go back to living in the hinterlands with the rubes.

      • Nephilium

        Me? Probably, because it would entertain me.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The inability to repeal Ocare with clear majorities in the legislature and the presidency should have disavowed anyone’s notion that the GOP is worth a damn.

      • rhywun

        They really just want to be in on the grift

        And they cover it up with fake appeals to the “high road”.

        Yup, fucking worthless.

    • juris imprudent

      Who are the other 4 missing votes?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Aren’t there 2 other vacancies? Also Scalise didn’t vote for whatever reason. So there are your 4 missing votes.

      • SDF-7

        Also Scalise didn’t vote for whatever reason

        Undergoing cancer treatment is what I read.

      • juris imprudent

        Well they dragged a Dem in the same condition in to vote.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Was that the time we saw the footage of a real-life Grima Wormtongue whispering into Feinstein’s ear on how to vote?

      • R C Dean

        No, on this impeachment. Some Dem got hauled in from a hospital to make damn sure it didn’t pass by one vote.

      • prolefeed

        Dems: will say or do anything, cheat, lie, murder a few inconvenient priests – win at all costs. Scorched earth.

        GOP: Whycome no Red Wave election? Let’s kick out this guy, for lying, who lies less than the median Democrat!

    • The Gunslinger

      It’s all theater.

  17. SDF-7

    Not great score wise — but at least for me, a bit of an interesting challenge today. Or I’m just thick.

    I played https://squaredle.com/xp 02/07:
    *21/21 words (+3 bonus words)
    📖 In the top 8% by bonus words

    Normal Squaredle 02/07:
    *49/49 words (+9 bonus words)
    🎯 In the top 7% by accuracy
    🔥 Solve streak: 230

    • Sean

      I played https://squaredle.com/xp 02/07:
      *21/21 words (+4 bonus words)
      📖 In the top 3% by bonus words

      I played https://squaredle.com 02/07:
      *49/49 words (+21 bonus words)
      📖 In the top 8% by bonus words
      🔥 Solve streak: 136

  18. Pope Jimbo

    Local Dems:

    Old and busted. Trying to get Trump taken off the ballot because he led an insurrection

    New and Hawt: Putting Cenk Uygur on the primary ballot even though he is ineligible for President because he’s foreign born.

    In a statement to MinnPost on his decision to include Uygur on the ballot, DFL Party Chairman Ken Martin said, “Our lawyers advised us that it was better to allow candidates to appear on our primary ballot until a court determines that they are ineligible.”

    Martin further defended his inclusion of Uygur saying, “We also believe in erring on the side of ballot access.”

    • juris imprudent

      We also believe in erring on the side of ballot access.

      Tell me you said that to RFK Jr. Liar.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Clever ploy really. Gets on ballot, leaches votes, gets easily removed from ballot as its an original requirement that is clear cut, rinse/repeat and expect it to be a growing number of things in future elections.

  19. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Do strippers currently have the right to give a handjob in the back room for a reasonable mutually agreed upon gratuity? That’s what I’d really like to see them fight for.

    • PieInTheSky

      stray dogs chasing your car here can be aggressive I would not stop for one.

  20. Swiss Servator

    SITE UPDATE NOTE: Didn’t happen.

    We are back to a TBD date.

    • R C Dean

      Is it a money thing? I could kick in a few bucks if it is.

      • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

        I gave them $50 the other day 🙄

    • SDF-7

      Figured that was either the case or y’all did a stupendous job of making the upgrade visually identical.

      Thanks for the update, Swiss. We’re always fondue of you popping in on the morning links.

      • juris imprudent

        We can always count on Swiss to be on the Käse.

      • Gender Traitor

        …and give us his franc assessment of the situation.

      • R.J.

        He is a Raclette star.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        This upgrade story is full of holes.

      • ron73440

        These jokes grate on me a little, if I am to brie honest.

    • R.J.

      Thank you Swiss. I hope it all gets worked out. I agree with R C, if it is a money thing I will register for Kiva and send money.

  21. The Other Kevin

    Well I feel like hell. One of the kids Mrs TOK babysits has Covid and Flu. I got sick yesterday afternoon and damn does it have me on my back.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Get well soon.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Fluvid? That’s not good.

      • The Other Kevin

        No. I’ve had Covid a few times and this is way worse.

    • juris imprudent

      At least it didn’t knock you off your feet.

    • ron73440

      Walk it off, you’ll be alright.

      On a serious note, that doesn’t sound fun at all.

    • PieInTheSky

      20k Vit D a day for 3 days, K2, magnesium glycinate, zinc. A few grams on intravenous VIT C would also help.

      • The Other Kevin

        I’ve been sucking down horse paste like it’s going out of style. But yes lots of C and D.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        But yes lots of C and D.

        Glibs after dark.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Or an underground Atlanta stripclub.

      • prolefeed

        C and D? Cunnilingus and doggystyle?

        These euphemisms …

      • Not Adahn

        How does mountain climbing help? I’d assume the cold dry air at 28,251′ would make everything worse.

    • Gender Traitor

      So sorry, TOK! Hope you feel better ASAP! 🤒

    • Grosspatzer, Superstar

      Sounds awful. Better soon, I hope.

    • Common Tater

      Get well soon!

  22. KK, Plump & Unfiltered

    So, what? The first rule of Glibertarians Upgrade is we don’t talk about Glibertarians Upgrade?

    • Ownbestenemy

      If you have to ask, you don’t wanna know.

      • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

        Yeah. Evidently.

    • PieInTheSky

      what do you mean it was mentioned

      • Ownbestenemy

        “It was deduced early on it did not happen and then the great Swiss detective burst into the room and revealed the grand ruse!”

  23. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Squatters in Atlanta: Sherman should’ve salted the earth once he burned it down. We’d all be better off-that place is a dump.

    • Not Adahn

      Whycome U h8 Coca Cola and Waffle House?

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, one wants me to be less white, and the other is Waffle House – I’m not that adept at dodging chairs.

  24. Ownbestenemy

    This is rich. I am listening to Mayor Pete lecture me on human trafficking in which his agency has been doing the largest human trafficking operation in history.

  25. Common Tater

    “The Associated Press does not identify people who say they have been sexually assaulted.”

    It’s not like you report news or anything.

    • Common Tater

      “Known as the “strippers’ bill of rights,” proposals being considered in the Legislature would require a security guard at each club, keypad codes to enter dressing rooms, training for employees on preventing sexual harassment, and procedures if a customer is violent. It would also require training on how to de-escalate conflict between dancers, employees and customers, and signs stating that dancers are not required to hand over tips.”

      The economic consequences of daddy issues.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I could have sworn the industry already did all those things.

      • Not Adahn

        I have never seen a keypad on a dressing room door.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Is there a large influx of patrons bursting into dressing rooms? I know horny retards/drunks get handsy but making their way into the back room areas seems like asking for an ass whopping from the bouncers.

      • Not Adahn

        I haven’t hung out in strip clubs nor lived with strippers for almost 15 years now, so things may have changed.

        1. No it was not common.
        2. Sometimes there would be a “house mom” sitting by the door (inside the room) as a sweet old lady bouncer. Her main activities were mending costumes and preventing the dancers from stealing from each other.

      • R C Dean

        The whole thing is a confession that, yes, strippers are hookers. I can recall a time when they denied that.

      • juris imprudent

        I thought in the social hierarchy strippers looked down upon hookers?

      • Not Adahn

        “Whorearchy.”

        Former libertarian ho DBA Maggie McNeill coined the term IIRC.

  26. pistoffnick

    Taylor Swift owns two multi-million dollar private jets: A Dassault Falcon 7x, registered N621MM under Island Jet Inc. And a Dassault Falcon 900, registered N898TS under SATA LLFC.

    /although she may have recently sold her Falcon 900

    / information found on the internet. If you search for just the tail number, you can often find past and current flight plans.

    /Suck it, Taylor Sworf

    • PieInTheSky

      she should be flying on air force one

      • Ownbestenemy

        Which..if you know their procedures, it isn’t hard to find AF1 either. TFRs around airports, road blockages, and even FlightAware can give you probably a 50mi radius of the reported AF1 tag of where it really is.

      • Fourscore

        She could be flying on AF1, Hunter would insure she got a seat.

    • Ownbestenemy

      About that…

      The court added: “Skeptics are free to — and did — voice their opposition through multiple means…”

      Maybe the court should check out the case out of MO that in fact highlighted that skeptics were not free to voice their opposition.

      • sloopyinca

        Bodily autonomy means the right to cut a living, growing human being out of your uterus, but it doesn’t mean being able to walk around without a (useless) face diaper on because some bureaucrat said something was dangerous.

    • sloopyinca

      “A question shadowing suits such as these is whether there is a First Amendment right to refuse to wear a protective mask as required by valid health and safety orders put in place during a recognized public health emergency. Like all courts to address this issue, we conclude there is not,” the court said.

      Orders. Not laws, mind you. But orders.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep. We can thank all our feckless legislators for passing that buck in their emergency powers provisions giving near unlimited power to the governors that nearly all states passed.

      • Grosspatzer, Superstar

        Getting emergency powers was the hard part. Declaring an emergency is child’s play.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Valid is also a key word there. If the premise underwriting the order is nonsense then the order is by definition invalid and the restriction of rights should carry the burden of proof.

    • WTF

      ““A question shadowing suits such as these is whether there is a First Amendment right to refuse to wear a protective mask as required by valid health and safety orders put in place during a recognized public health emergency. “

      That’s one hell of a stolen base.

      • Sensei

        You and I live in the same NJ right?

        (Agree, naturally. however.)

      • Grosspatzer, Superstar

        You and I live in the same NJ right?

        Please tell me there is only one. The one I live in is bad enough.

      • Sensei

        It wants to be CA, but it lacks the beauty, varied geography and weather?

      • Dr Mossy Lawn

        It is nice enough in the north and west corner. If Trenton would just leave us alone.

      • WTF

        Yup, born and raised and still residing in the People’s Democratic Republic of New Jersey.

  27. PieInTheSky

    Ah yes, the seventies. A time when pop culture was dominated by “clean-cut heroes” like Popeye Doyle, Alex DeLarge, Dirty Harry Callaghan, Michael Corleone, Travis Bickle, Jake Gittes, Max Rockatansky, Sonny Wortzik, etc.

    Not a “flawed anti-hero” in sight there.

    https://twitter.com/Darren_Mooney/status/1754786140995899729

    • Mojeaux

      “Flawed anti-hero” is redundant.

      A hero has one fatal flaw. An anti-hero has one redeeming virtue.

      • PieInTheSky

        storytelling has no rules.

      • SDF-7

        Thomas Covenant — sheer stubbornness and an inability to ignore victims.

        Check.

        Linden Avery….. oh shit… SRD forgot to give her a virtue….

    • Common Tater

      What First Amendment?

  28. PieInTheSky

    ToughSF
    @ToughSf
    A method to unilaterally disable all nuclear bombs on Earth, remotely and without countermeasure:

    It uses a 1000 TeV muon->neutrino beam to penetrate right through the Earth and decay near fissile material, forcing it to ‘fizzle’ and become useless.

    https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1754550452996518099

    • SDF-7

      Oh yeah — let’s just cause spontaneous nuclear decay in significant proportions of the Earth’s crust! What could go wrong? (And it isn’t like we might want this stuff for fuel at some point, dumbasses….)

      And that’s taking them at their word that it would even work. Given the pass-through properties of neutrinos, I’m detecting one solar mass of bullshit there.

    • Not Adahn

      I can’t wait for the other articles in the series: “Does stubbing one’s toe hurt?” and “Falling: Is down more likely than up? A Statistical Analysis”

  29. Tres Cool

    Hey from Camden, NJ right on the banks of the river.

    God this place is a dump.

    • PieInTheSky

      how are the wine bars? any good specialty coffee?

    • Sensei

      But…. The aquarium!

      Kidding aside – if you are stuck there it’s worth the visit.

      • Grosspatzer, Superstar

        Can confirm. One of NJ’s finer attractions.

    • WTF

      Make sure you get the hell out before nightfall.

    • Grosspatzer, Superstar

      LOL. While you’re here, take a tour of some of our other fine cities. Paterson, Newark, Atlantic City… Oh, and you just need to cross the Delaware to get some brotherly love.

      • Tres Cool

        We’re staying in Philly.
        No way I want to be in Camden much after dark.

      • Grosspatzer, Superstar

        We’re staying in Philly.

        My condolences. Also, what WTF said also applies.

    • SDF-7

      Damn… I’m glad I clicked through, Moby Dick was my first thought too.

      Any Pern novel should be disqualified, though. Ditto most of Weis and Hickman’s stuff.

      I’m going to cheat a little because I think it works better:

      She came out of the store just in time to see her young son playing on the sidewalk directly in the path of the gray, gaunt man who strode down the center of the walk like a mechanical derelict. For an instant, her heart qualied.

      — and then the dragons arrived.

      Lije Baley had just reached his desk when he became aware of R. Sammy watching him expectantly. The dour lines of his long face hardened. “What do you want?”

      — and then the dragons arrived.

      In Petersburg at that time a complicated struggle was being carried on with greater heat than ever in the highest circles, between the parties of Rumyantsev, the French, Marya Fedorovna, the Tsarevich, and others, drowned as usual by the buzzing of the court drones.

      — and then the dragons arrived.

      I think the last one works best. Tolstoy for the win!

      • WTF

        It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. And then the dragons arrived.

    • PieInTheSky

      From the twitters for those who clicketh not:

      Call me Ishmael. Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. — and then the dragons arrived

      It was a queer, sultry summer, the summer they electrocuted the Rosenbergs, and I didn’t know what I was doing in New York — and then the dragons arrived.

      “There was a man in the Land of Uz, his name was Job, and this man was innocent, honest, and fearful of God- and then Dragons arrived”

      Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. And then the dragons arrived.

      The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel, and then the dragons arrived.

    • R C Dean

      It was a dark and stormy night – and then the dragons arrived.

      Meh.

      How about

      It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife – and then the dragons arrived.

      Eh, the sentence structure doesn’t really work.

      No one who had ever seen Catherine Morland in her infancy would have supposed her born to be an heroine – and then the dragons arrived.

      That one works a treat.

      “Emma Woodhouse, handsome, clever, and rich, with a comfortable home and happy disposition, seemed to unite some of the best blessings of existence; and had lived nearly twenty-one years in the world with very little to distress or vex her – and then the dragons arrived.

      Bang on.

      Jane Austen FTW.

    • UnCivilServant

      Bureaucracy – and then the dragons arrived.

      Doesn’t work.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s even worse when applied to the next books in the series.

        When compared to Sterling Towers and Dreadmere Plaza, 722 Walker wasn’t a big part of the skyline in New Port Arthur – ATTDA

        Or

        Without stops, it would be a fifteen-hour drive from New Port Arthur to Sandy Shore – ATTDA

      • UnCivilServant

        For the other series

        The Moor House felt empty without my cousins in it – ATTDA

        Okay, so they’re houseguests?

      • PieInTheSky

        you need to read better books 🙂

      • PieInTheSky

        Well obviously that is why I made the comment

    • Shpip

      He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days now without taking a fish. In the first forty days a boy had been with him.
      But after forty days without a fish the boy’s parents had told him that the old man was now definitely and finally salao, which is the worst form of unlucky — and then the dragons arrived.

      • R C Dean

        Actually works better if you add it at the end of the second sentence, IMO.

        In the first forty days a boy had been with him – and then the dragons arrived.

        Poor kid.

    • Shpip

      Mr. Jones, of the Manor Farm, had locked the hen-houses for the night, but was too drunk to remember to shut the pop-holes. With the ring of light from his lantern dancing from side to side, he lurched across the yard, kicked off his boots at the back door, drew himself a last glass of beer from the barrel in the scullery, and made his way up to bed, where Mrs. Jones was already snoring — and then the dragons arrived.

      • Ownbestenemy

        In the time before steamships, or then more frequently than now, a stroller along the docks of any considerable sea-port would occasionally have his attention arrested by a group of bronzed mariners, man-of-war’s men or merchant-sailors in holiday attire ashore on liberty — and then the dragons arrived.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    “A question shadowing suits such as these is whether there is a First Amendment right to refuse to wear a protective mask as required by valid health and safety orders put in place during a recognized public health emergency. Like all courts to address this issue, we conclude there is not,” the court said.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’

    If the mask rules weren’t based on superstitious faith, and an open effort to enforce the practice thereof, what were they?

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Everyone must, by law, carry a tiger-repelling rock in public at all times.

      • SDF-7

        Carol Baskin hardest hit.

  31. juris imprudent

    And we complain about how bad we have it.

    The Irish government has presided over unprecedented levels of immigration. In the year to April 2023, new arrivals reached a 16-year high, of 140,000. This included 42,000 Ukrainians. Ireland has taken in more Ukrainian refugees per capita than the UK, Germany and France.

    • WTF

      Adjusted for population, that would be the per capita equivalent of the US taking in around 9 or 10 million.

    • rhywun

      Such a seismic shift would have raised issues for any society. Not least because Irish people were never really asked their views on any of this.

      Exactly. And if/when they are, their views are/will be simply ignored anyway.

    • rhywun

      Of course, immigrants and refugees are not responsible for Ireland’s economic struggles. Nor are they responsible for Ireland’s chronic housing shortage.

      Maybe not “responsible” but they exacerbate nearly any problem you can name.

      It’s like the TOS argument the immigrants are less crimey than natives. So what?

      • R C Dean

        Of course, the TOS argument only works if you conflate legal with illegal immigrants.

    • mrfamous

      “The English need to get the hell out of our country! Everybody else is free to come on in.”

    • Common Tater

      No one could have predicted the vodka and lemonade shortage.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    A hero has one fatal flaw. An anti-hero has one redeeming virtue.

    Nice. I don’t think I’ve ever heard it put that way.

    • Pine_Tree

      Submitted for debate: The greatest hero ever written is Severus Snape.

      Discuss…

    • Nephilium

      Not as much as the hundreds of people who sat through that whole garbage movie.

      /girds liver as the girlfriend wants to watch the Marvels tonight

  33. KSuellington

    “None of the above” should be an option in every single election. If that wins then the office goes empty until the next election can be held, and any candidates that lost to none of the above can’t run in the follow up election. That would be one of the best changes to voting that we have ever had. It would certainly add an element of choice that we are currently sorely lacking. Make Voting Fun Again.

    • PieInTheSky

      If “None of the above” wins all human candidates are killed on the spot

      • juris imprudent

        “your terms are acceptable”

  34. B.P.

    An “expert” breaks down why men hate seeing Taylor Swift at NFL games…

    https://www.9news.com/article/sports/nfl/superbowl/why-some-are-furious-to-see-taylor-swift-at-football-games/73-748d84ef-efb5-41a2-9cac-34389feb0711

    “”Most of them, admittedly, don’t know anything about her,” Skerski said. “But they just don’t get it and they’re sort of offended by her existence even if it’s only for 25 seconds in a broadcast that they have been conditioned to think is for them.””

    Okay, fine. Some people are annoyed by meaningless stuff.

    “”The reactions and the vitriol and the feigned rage has nothing to do with the football part and more to do with what Taylor and Travis Kelce signal about the future of America,” Skerski said.”

    Wow. That escalated quickly.

    • Mojeaux

      Naw. Men just don’t want icky girl cooties touching their NFL. The women who already love football are a) older, b) likely married, and c) aReN’t LiKe OtHeR gIrLs.

    • rhywun

      offended by her existence

      Oh fuck off.

    • Rat on a train

      If I still watched major league sports, my complaint would be I want to watch the game, not see celebrities. All the distractions from the game is one of the reasons I stopped watching.

      • trshmnstr

        Yup. I used to be a sports junkie. Now my wife watches more football than I do (not because of TS… she has her teams that she watches). She notices the same stuff I notice, but it doesn’t impact her viewing experience as much.

        For me, there are 100 other things I can go do, so I’m not interested in escapism where I’m not actually allowed to escape.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Signal what? Rich white folks dating or contrived corporate cooption of a sport that until recently was fairly culturally reserved and just stuck to mostly the sport? If people want relationship drama let them go elsewhere.

      • juris imprudent

        If people want relationship drama let them go elsewhere.

        Like Antonio Cromartie?

    • Nephilium

      I get annoyed anytime they cut away from play on the field for stands/bleacher bullshit. It just appears to have happened more with Swift than anyone except Aaron Rodgers in the Hall of Fame game, which even got the girlfriend yelling at the TV that she wanted to watch the game.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Expert: Jamie Skerski, an associate teaching professor in communications at CU Boulder.

    • R C Dean

      Oh, FFS. This is an excellent example of mistaking attention-whoring social media posts for reality. “Men” don’t really care about Tay-Tay at football games as long the announcers and cameras aren’t slobbering over her like at the first one (and they mostly aren’t). A handful of morons claiming this is a CIA psy-op to get Biden re-elected aren’t “men”, they’re a handful of morons.

      She grew up fairly normal, as far as I know. She’s not a second or third generation degenerate from the Hollywood or NYC entertainment scene. She, like a lot of women in their thirties, probably watches at least the occasional football game without being forced (or paid) to.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Just a normal teenage model turned teenage country music star.

      • Mojeaux

        I respect the hell out of her just for taking her music back from the record companies. That is not to mention her fight with Spotify, which boiled down to, “Fuck you, pay me.”

      • Certified Public Asshat

        When I call her and Kelce dum-dums, I am not disputing that they are both talented and wildly successful. Just that I highly doubt she is a deep thinker or some kind of mastermind that figured out she could become more of a billionaire by dating Travis Kelce. He likes her because she is a popular girl (the most popular) and she likes him because he plays football.

      • Mojeaux

        I don’t expect them to be deep thinkers (although some lyricists really are deep thinkers) (and writing lyrics is a separate art from writing poetry), and I find Taylor to be of higher value than Travis.

        I also still think it’s a publicity stunt, but to what end, I can’t really figure out.

        Also, Taylor is kind to people and generous.

        Also, everything that girl touches turns to gold.

      • Not Adahn

        I’m waiting for her to open Taylorworld.

        I still need to see Dollywood before Mrs. Parton is no more.

      • R C Dean

        I think a lot of this agita is just long-buried resentment from the high school quarterback and cheerleader getting together.

      • Ownbestenemy

        ^^^ Sure looks that way

      • trshmnstr

        Probably true. That said, I don’t really care either way on their relationship, but I never really liked the “cut away to some person on the sidelines/in the stands repeatedly whenever something tangentially related happens on the field” editorial choice. I don’t care if it’s Tay Tay or that guy who tore his ACL last week or the owner of the franchise.

      • R C Dean

        “Fairly” normal.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Fair.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That Toby Keith found. Watch the hate move onto his dead soul.

    • juris imprudent

      what Taylor and Travis Kelce signal about the future of America

      Hyper-successful white people?

    • KSuellington

      What are the chances that this “expert” has watched a complete single NFL game this year? I’d put that at a 20-1 shot. I’m actually a fan of Swift in a business sense and of her obvious musical talent. It ain’t easy to write a good pop tune and she has written a few. She is not just some auto tuned replaceable starlet, she can actually play instruments and she writes music. That said, the amount of coverage of her in game has been ridiculous. Obviously I want the Niners to win as I’ve been a home team fan since I watched Super Bowl 16. The Purdy story is also the best one in sports for at least the past decade and is getting short shrift for reasons I’ve mentioned before. So I very much want to see Travis and Taylor crying in each others’ arms at the end and a pouty Brittany and a humbled Patrick. It should be a great game. I got money on the Niners and an over for Mahomes interceptions (+/- .05).

      • Mojeaux

        I loved you once.

        And will again, when KC has won.

      • R C Dean

        “That said, the amount of coverage of her in game has been ridiculous.”

        The first game, yes. Since then, I really don’t think it has been more than a few quick shots of her in a skybox, generally after her boytoy makes a good catch. Which, with all the dead air in an NFL game anyway, barely twitches the needle.

      • KSuellington

        Heheh Mo, come on, even you might not be utterly disappointed to see a Niners win this time around. Mr Irrelevent needs to put a bit of humbling on the Chiefs. This was the matchup I hoped for at the beginning of the season and the best possible one from a matchup perspective.

        RC, maybe I am referring to that game in particular as I watched the whole of it and found the gratuitous pandering of the NFL to the 12-25 year old female population preposterous. It seems that every time Kelce does something noteworthy there is a booth shot of Swift and company. The Kelce Pfizer commercial has also rubbed me the wrong way, especially as it has received a lot of airplay. I heard this week that KC has become “America’s Team” now. I enjoy the fact that SF will never ever ever be called that. Go Niners.

      • R C Dean

        If KC has inherited the “America’s Team” curse from the Cowboys, I feel bad for Mojeaux. And a lot better about the Cowboys’ chances next year.

      • Mojeaux

        Mahomes has said that people start to hate teams that keep winning, and since he intends to keep winning, he’s fine with being the villain if that’s what people need him to be.

        People have a love/hate relationship with teams that continue to win because, let’s face it, it’s boring. Part of the love is when you have hope at the beginning of the season and then hope falls away or is rejuvenated. In December, I thought we didn’t have a chance in hell.

        Kelce/Pfizer pissed me off, too.

        I was really hoping for the Lions because they worked so hard and really deserved it, but I guess not enough. I always like an underdog.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      I’d get annoyed if they cut to Brad Pitt in the stands 5 times a game too.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    I watched an extraordinary movie last night. Judge Priest.

    It is what one might call a cultural artifact. A peek into a vastly different past. I would like to get a bunch of woke hipsters in a room and Ludovico them into watching it. It is awesome in its racial and cultural wrongness. You have to see it to believe it. It’s actually pretty good, in places, unintentionally hilarious in others.

  36. PieInTheSky

    This chart is blowing my mind!

    Among foragers, contribution to diet (hunt vs fish vs gather plants) differs enormously by latitude.

    Life was very different on either side of about the 40th-50th parallel.

    This must have affected human evolution.

    https://twitter.com/whyvert/status/1755011558642516246

    • R C Dean

      So much for that vegetarian/vegan argument that our digestive system isn’t suited for digesting meat.

      • UnCivilServant

        Our digestive tract is very much tuned for an omnivorous lifestyle. What in the world were they using as an argument otherwise?

      • UnCivilServant

        The Jains made a moral, not biological, argument regarding diet.

      • UnCivilServant

        🤷‍♂️ I honestly hadn’t noticed it wasn’t meant as an honest response.

      • juris imprudent

        [bursts into tears] It’s like you don’t even know me!

      • R C Dean

        I think it was something about how our digestive tract is longer than an obligate carnivore’s ,or somesuch.

      • UnCivilServant

        Omnivores have a mid-length digestive tract, longer than a carnivore, but much shorter than an herbivore. It’s not optimized for either, but can handle a wider variety of foods.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Among foragers, contribution to diet (hunt vs fish vs gather plants) differs enormously by latitude.

    Life was very different on either side of about the 40th-50th parallel.

    No shit, Shirley?

    • R.J.

      I am pooping fine, and don’t call me Shirley.

  38. R.J.

    Having to attend a long meeting about how we should encourage unions. Holy shit. This place is doomed.

    • SDF-7

      …. and then the dragons arrived?

      • R.J.

        If only.

    • UnCivilServant

      Are they trying to make us die from laughing at them?

    • Mojeaux

      I saw someone say that when given enough money and time, people will create art (see Virginia Woolfe and “A Room of One’s Own”).

      A FEW people will, yes, but not a majority, which the above assumes. I know that I couldn’t have written and published what I did without my husband working to make it possible, and almost all the years of our marriage, I’ve had a room of my own.

      Not everybody is an artist or wants to be. Some people just want to pick up garbage bags, which is absolutely imperative in a functioning society.

      • SDF-7

        I’m sure I could create art — and probably would do something if I had nothing else to do.

        The idea that my art would have any value whatsoever is ludicrous.

      • Mojeaux

        The caveat is that it would be state-approved art.

        Patrons of long ago had a few things they wanted their artists-in-residence to do for them, but otherwise, left them alone to do what they wanted.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Of course there’s another reason that socialist societies are imagined to be grim and dreary: most of the societies that have called themselves socialist have been grim and dreary.

      Wow, you’re telling me this for the first time.

      • Not Adahn
    • juris imprudent

      Oscar Wilde said it long before them, and no more convincingly.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Does it really matter if socialism is boring? Perhaps it seems silly, even offensive, to be concerned about such a trivial matter compared to the horrors that capitalism inflicts all the time. Think about the dangers of increasing hurricanes and wildfires caused by climate change, the trauma of losing your home or your job, or the insecurity of not knowing if the man sitting next to you sees you as a target for date rape.

      How does socialism solve date rape?

      • UnCivilServant

        By forcing you out of your home and job, filling your environment with toxic runoff, and shooting you if you are suspected of agitating against the regime. So no opportunities to go on dates and thus unable to be raped on dates.

      • R C Dean

        “the dangers of increasing hurricanes and wildfires caused by climate change”

        Also not actually happening.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I know where that argument is coming from at least.

  39. Mojeaux

    I’m going to go see Jordan Peterson next week. Floor tickets are $130. I’d like my husband to go with me, but he doesn’t know JBP or listen to him, and I don’t want to spend $130 for him to sit on his phone. He’s trying to win tickets for me. They’re a prize not just on talk radio (expected) but also on our classic rock station (I’m shocked).

    • UnCivilServant

      Were it anyone else I’d go “trying to win tickets is a bad strategy.” But with his track record…

      • Mojeaux

        Instead, today, he won a $25 Hy-Vee gift card.

    • R C Dean

      “I don’t want to spend $130 for him to sit on his phone”

      I see nothing wrong with a house rule that you leave your phone in the car when going to a live performance of any kind. I, for one, don’t want to even sit next to somebody at a live performance who has their snout in their phone. It’s distracting for other people, and therefor rude.

      • Mojeaux

        I’mma try to sneakily use my voice recorder because when I listen to a JBP lecture on YouTube, I take notes in my journal.

        Also, I use my phone to type in notes. During the TSO concert, it inspired me to write about 300 words on my Krampus story. On my phone.

      • R C Dean

        And you don’t think that’s distracting for people around you?

      • Mojeaux

        It might be, but as I’m engaged in the presentation, it doesn’t bother me. I don’t use my phone to disengage from the presentation.

      • KSuellington

        The last Jack White show I went to you had to put your phone in a pouch that they gave you at the door that would open at the end of the show. I was mildly annoyed upon entering, not that I wanted to use my phone but just the extra hassle, but by the end of the show I was a believer. People paid a lot more attention without the distraction device and there were zero annoying people trying to film shit or turn on their phone lights. I wouldn’t mind that at any show again.

      • Mojeaux

        Maybe I’ll bring a pen and paper then, just in case.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Reality is subjective

    The House GOP meltdown came as this divided, angry Congress’ capacity to govern at the most basic level appears to be imploding.

    After months demanding hardline changes to asylum policies to cope with a rush of undocumented migrants at the southern border, Johnson and House Republicans killed the most conservative potential new immigration law in decades — apparently because Trump, the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination, wants to demagogue the crisis until November.

    The entire premise of American governance and constitutional democracy is now at risk.

    The Senate border compromise negotiated by deeply conservative Oklahoma Sen. James Lankford, which is now all but dead, was a tough pill for Democrats to swallow. But the negotiation of the deal – and the fact that Biden was prepared to implement it – was an example of how government is supposed to work. That should have been a famous win for Republicans and a humiliation for a Democratic president, who was criticized for failing to respond to the border chaos and then had to anger his own coalition to stem a crisis that threatened his reelection.

    If only those deranged absolutists would just play ball with the President we could get the ship of state out of the ditch and flying straight and level.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      “After months demanding hardline changes to asylum policies”

      As far as I can tell the bill doesn’t really change the asylum policies. They still can just use the magic words and get in.

    • R.J.

      The bill should have been one page. It was massive and filled with non-border control things. Fuck off, slaver!

  41. PieInTheSky

    Bruno Maçães
    @MacaesBruno
    ·
    Feb 6
    Replying to @MacaesBruno
    American culture and ideas have almost no reach in Dubai, Istabul, Shanghai, Jakarta, Nairobi, Singapore, Lisbon, Stockholm or Mumbai. You can’t run an empire with London, Toronto and Melbourne

    gorilla grip personality
    @Dittopoop
    There are literal nomadic tribes living above the Arctic circle in Siberia making parodies of American pop songs

    https://twitter.com/Dittopoop/status/1754920719270486463

    • R C Dean

      “You can’t run an empire with London, Toronto and Melbourne”

      Actually, you can. Most empires, in fact, have been run out of a single capitol city. It’s practically the definition of an empire, in fact.

      And, of course, cultural reach and running an empire are two very different things.

      I award you no points.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Maybe a he could find an unblemished tribe in the deepest Amazon right before they shrunk his head.

  42. Common Tater

    “Downfall of a woke DA: Baltimore prosecutor Marilyn Mosby sobs as she faces FORTY years in jail after being found guilty of COVID mortgage fraud – just months after being convicted of perjury

    Ex-top Baltimore prosecutor Marilyn Mosby is convicted of mortgage fraud after using bogus COVID hardship claim to raid her retirement funds and buy Florida vacation homes”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13056383/baltimore-prosecutor-marilyn-mosby-mortgage-fraud-covid-retirement-funds.html

    • Sean

      Love it.

    • juris imprudent

      Florida vacation homes? Obvious raycism.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “faces X number of tears”
      Faces? Technically sure. Will they face that many? Hell no.

    • R C Dean

      I’m just genuinely baffled by this kind of thing.

      • juris imprudent

        I guess his parents are too.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Also, everything that girl touches turns to gold.

    Does that make Kelce Rumplestiltskin?

  44. Derpetologist

    There’s a zookeeper certification program near me. It costs $10k and takes 5 semesters, which I think is ridiculous. Even so, it’s a job I haven’t tried yet.

    You’d think Florida, where half the students fail the standardized test for algebra and geometry would be more eager to hire a guy who’s actually good at math to teach it. Perhaps I should apply to some other counties. I could also try putting up fliers at UFL again.

    I joined AMVETS today and when I mentioned moving to Florida to teach math, the bartender talked about how her kid needed help with it. Hopefully that organization will lead to employment and company.

    Otherwise, $8 for 12 cans of Genessee Cream and a decent internet connection is enough for me.