Random Thoughts – XXII

by | Aug 11, 2026 | I Am Lame | 173 comments


Item the 1st – “They believe it as they don’t think about it. It is received wisdom.” – Master Zwak

If I recall, this was in response to a sequence of comments about the nature of belief for zealots in the climate change arena.

While I agree with the sentiment, it also occurred to me – Isn’t that true for 99% of us regarding 99.9% of human knowledge? Received wisdom, as it were, can be a means to acquire accurate knowledge. In some cases, the only way. We need to benefit from the experience and knowledge of our fellow primates. It increases the likely-hood that we will survive novel, and not so novel, situations without having to learn everything from scratch or test every bit of knowledge from scratch.

You need trust in institutions and the people who populate those institutions. Evolving in populations with membership around the Dunbar Number, it’s an invaluable trait. Of course skepticism and “trust but verify” is also an ingrained evolutionary trait, more-so in some than others, so, even in small populations, it’s a valuable trait. As for many things, though, that evolutionary balanced approach to knowledge doesn’t seem to scale too well, and the advantage of trust in ‘received wisdom’ is probably getting smaller and smaller as social institutions get larger and larger.



Item the 2nd – I have a note here: “Bro/Tres – going to work ill. mixed feelings.” If I recall, this was a statement by Bro that he would go to work when sick. And I’m pretty sure that we’ve had others say they would do the same, especially when they are in need of money. Now we don’t know Bro’s work situation so let’s worry about the general case.

To 0th order, it seems pretty disrespectful to carry a pathogen to work and potentially expose others to illness. Of course if you got it, it’s more than likely widely enough distributed that people are going to be exposed to it regardless of what you do. But still, it’s broadly considered rude, at the very least, to go to work while sick. I see the point, especially in the era of widespread metabolic dysfunction and susceptibility.

On the other hand, we evolved in scenarios where we would never really be out of contact with sick people. That’s how the human immune system evolved and developed. It doesn’t function properly if it’s not exposed to pathogens and, in fact, denying it exposure to pathogens and irritants make it essentially non-functional. Concrete examples include the proliferation of peanut allergies largely induced by poor public health advice (that we listened to, see Item the 1st) to avoid exposing children or pregnant women to peanuts. More major, the wiping out of large swaths of American Indians from exposure to pathogens they had never seen before. Their immune systems had never been trained by exposure. To function optimally across a population, the human immune system needs exposure, hopefully small/gradual/integrated into the environment over time, but exposure nonetheless.

So as I said, mixed feelings. You need the exposure for optimal health and it might be best in the long term for you, but it also sucks in the modern environment to potentially be less functional in the short term.



Item the 3rd – Recently, the MeatEater Podcast had a episode interviewing Burkhard Bilger, an author/journalist working largely for the New Yorker, about the Lonestar tick and alpha-gal, the allergy to eating meat (allergy caused by a sugar found in mammalian products). It was an interesting episode, not just focused on alpha-gal – noodling and nod to SIV were touched on. Being a New Yorker writing for the New Yorker, there was a bit of “rednecks in the mist” feel at times, but minimal and he explicitly stated he wanted to avoid that.

So my main reaction was to a brief discussion about Lyme disease and it’s potential origin as a leaked bio-weapon. I’m not taking a position on plausibility of that theory, though it’s clear that military was actively researching using tick borne illnesses (and may have even tried to use them on Cuba, though I haven’t spent a lot of time verifying that). While most of that research was being conduced at Fort Detrick, there is some, unconfirmed information implicating Plum Island in the research. Plum Island was active through the end of the 60s in bio-weapons research and the first major outbreaks of Lyme occurred in the areas around the lab in 68. Anyway, again, the point is not to argue one way or the other.

So what is the point? The point is how Bilger dismissed the ‘conspiracy theory’ while trying to project an attitude of complete objectivity. What was his debunking? Alpha-gal antibodies have been found in mummified corpses of e.g. mice from the early 1800s and the bacteria responsible has been around for 1000’s of years. That’s it. That means the conspiracy theory is clearly wrong because Lyme outbreaks occurred starting the late 60s and the bacterium has been around for millennia. Except, as far as I’m aware, no conspiracy theorist is claiming that the US military/IC created the bacteria; it was first directly identified (and named after) Willy Burgdorfer and there are connections to US military research in his background. However, again, the point is not to adjudicate the veracity of the conspiracy theory. But notice the debunking depends on assuming something that is not true and debunking that. No-one claims that Borrelia burgdorferi (bacterium responsible for Lyme) was created; maybe run through gain-of-function at least at the level serial passage, definitely studied with ticks as a vector for distribution as bio-weapon. But not created. What Bilger stated – factually – has absolutely nothing to do with the conspiracy theory about US military and/or IC involvement in Lyme outbreaks. But if you don’t think past step 0 – see Item the 1st – all the words sound sophisticated and plausible and create an illusion that it’s been debunked convincingly. People will go around with a certainty that the conspiracy has been dis-proven based on irrelevant information.

One wonders how many of the debunks of ‘conspiracy theories’ be like that.

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173 Comments

  1. Sean

    Weak ass bitches with shitty immune systems. Take some vitamins. Eat an orange. Cowboy the fuck up. 🀠

    • rhywun

      The weakness to peanuts is particularly sad. I could not even with that.

      • PutridMeat

        Surprisingly, the costco brand is pretty good – roasted peanuts and salt. Since I don’t eat bread, it’s usually just a spoon or dissolved in e.g. a Thai curry.

      • rhywun

        lol I am a basic Jif bitch.

        I’ve tried some gourmet versions and didn’t care for it.

      • PutridMeat

        Have you tried crisp bread?

        Nope. Keto style ‘breads’ have been known to form out of the ether around here from flax seed, egg whites, cheese, various nuts, that sort of thing.

        But I don’t really have a strong desire for bread, so it’s not really a major issue. Except for croissants. I do miss those.

      • rhywun

        Gross. I hate sunflower seeds. Sometimes I find them in bagels when I wasn’t paying close enough attention and have to pick them out.

      • slumbrew

        The Egg Life wraps are OK – they don’t taste like _anything_ and have a texture that’s a cross between a pita and a bao. Good enough for sandwich-like lunches. Also, work OK as a janky hot dog roll.

      • Threedoor

        Reno 911 S5, E5

      • Chafed

        Costco peanut butter for the win.

      • Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

        Gross. I hate sunflower seeds.

        I LOVE sunflower seeds. I fucked up my molars by eating sunflower seeds for years. It turns out the salt wears down your enamel faster than sugar.

      • Threedoor

        Adams is the only penut butter.

        Not that penut oil is good for you. Or legumes.

        Some times I’ll suffer the neck pain the next day and eat the kids penut butter covered pancakes. It’s about the only way we can get the girl to eat something resembling protein.

  2. slumbrew

    “Except, as far as I’m aware, no conspiracy theorist is claiming that the US military/IC created the bacteria”

    That’s a common stolen-base – “Oh, sure, the labs created COVID-19 – COVID has been around forever!”. That lets them gloss over gain-of-function research.

    • Chafed

      Before Covid hit I never would have believed we would be lied to so pervasively. And here we are. You are absolutely right slumbrew.

  3. Fourscore

    As an expert woodtick kind of guy Lyme has become passe’. I’ve had it twice, antibiotics was a quick cure. I’ve had wood ticks stuck in places both personal and visible.

    This year ticks weren’t bad, I picked off about 10, only 2 were stuck and no Lyme carriers. Tick season is about over. Deer flies weren’t bad and now gone. Mosquitoes have disappeared locally, for the past two years.

    Cyclic? I don’t know. I saw a 1/2 grown fox this morning with about a half a tail.

    • PutridMeat

      Lyme has become passe’.

      alpha gal is the new hotness, what with making you allergic to eating most mammals. Obviously ripe for Bill Gates/WHO/WEF conspiracy theories.

      • Threedoor

        The researchers admitted they released it because they are vegans.

  4. Evan from Evansville

    1. We learn plenty from our fellow social primates, but we do plenty of hands-on learning. Reading how to throw a ball isn’t the same as doing it, and reading Monopoly or poker rules before playing is a solid idea, it doesn’t ‘teach’ you anything about how to actually play, especially the latter. We still all repeat all sorts of shit we were just told and never did for ourselves. Reliable trustworthiness is required for large groups, societies, cultures, to have dependable sources for knowledge to pass down on and through.

    2. I can’t recall the last time I was ‘sick’ sick. I did eat something goofy last year and had ~10hrs of directly related troubles, but ‘airborne’ illness? No idea the last time that’s happened. The bubble-wrapping and especially the sanitization of every surface to forever keep children away from anything resembling an icky scary microbe is bumfuck stupid. Just all of it. Get dirty as a kid. Get sick. Your body kinda really needs to do it then when you’re still made of magic. I really hate it.

    3. Willy Burgdorfer, teehee! German names are fun. Noted “castle villager,” he, I s’pose.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Schloss is castle, Burg is town. Hence Burgermeister is town leader or highly regarded person. So, burgdorfer would be townsperson.

      • Evan from Evansville

        I remember Schloss, and Berg for mountains, which I’d always gotten mixed up with Burg=Town. I had “Burg” in my memory as like ‘encampment,’ or a full motte/bailey castle-town. I was kinda right. Places like Burg Hohenzollern. (Ya know, my regular haunt, all dressed up in my fancies.)

        Ends up the same! The townperson. The village-person. The villager. The not-interesting -enough-to-be -remembered -for-anything-particular person. Which, oddly, is a rather good compliment if you’re a sneakster.

      • rhywun

        More importantly, Burg means “castle” and by extension the town around it.

        Bit nebulous, yes.

    • PutridMeat

      Willy Burgdorfer, teehee! German names are fun

      He was actually Swiss (became US citizen in his 30s I believe after moving to Rocky Mountain Research Lab) and had lots of ties to various WHO things and armed forces epidemiology research.

      You know how shifty those Swiss can be.

      • Aloysious

        The Swiss are also known for having cheese eating grind.

      • Aloysious

        Dammit editor! It’s ‘grins’.

  5. The Hyperbole

    Who was the idiot politician that praised some waitress for coming to work sick during the covid scare? And yes Covid was overblown, but who wants their food server sniffling over their double bacon cheeseburger with extra onions and sautΓ©ed mushrooms.

    • rhywun

      Yeah I dunno why staying home if sick would be controversial. There are plenty of opportunities in life to spread your germs without needing to do it deliberately.

      I’m reminded of the little do-gooders in HS who won awards every year for never taking an absence. Yeah, fuck you.

      • DrOtto

        I assure you, I never once won that award. I was told by the lady at the attendance office I had the most unexcused tardies she had ever seen and I was pretty adept at skipping school as well.

      • rhywun

        I was a good student but not one of those goody two-shoes.

        When I skipped it was for a good reason, like to catch Reagan speaking at the hockey arena.

      • Evan from Evansville

        @Otto: *high five*

      • DrOtto

        Lol – I did what I could to get Gen X the “slacker” tag. My Senior year, I skipped my entire final semester after lunch simply because I had the credits to graduate. When confronted by my Dean in the final week, I didn’t even try and deny it. When he asked for my proposed solution, I suggested not making a big deal about it so as not to inspire copy cats. I ended up serving detention everyday the last week of school and cleaning lockers the last 2 days. I’m sure there’s a negative note in my permanent record somewhere.

      • Brochettaward

        A lot of places like that cease to function if the lowly paid employee calls off. Skeleton staffing will do that to you.

        On top of that, the person in question is incentivized to show-up sick. Between the way they’re treated if they do call off and the lack of sick pay, it’s inevitable some will come in sick to tough it out.

        People say they don’t want someone working sick either because they don’t want to catch it or they end up waiting in line as everything gets backed-up and fucked. Then they don’t give a fuck.

      • R.J.

        Bro is right.

      • Gender Traitor

        the little do-gooders in HS who won awards every year for never taking an absence.

        The worst obsession with “Perfect Attendance” I ever saw was the mom of a grade school kid at a school where I worked as a tutor (back when I had delusions of becoming a teacher.) Poor little guy was sick as a dog – not barfing, thank goodness, but could hardly hold his head up. Mom came to the school to sit with him but refused to take him home so he wouldn’t lose his “perfect attendance.” His teacher begged Mom to take the poor kid home. It’s been so long ago I don’t remember if the teacher threatened to count him absent anyway or maybe promised Mom she WOULDN’T count him absent if she’d just take him the hell home. Don’t even remember how it was all resolved. But it struck me as borderline abuse.

        Speaking of German names, I need a nice German-sounding same for this mom’s sick “by proxy” syndrome. πŸ˜’

      • (((Jarflax

        I need a nice German-sounding same for this mom’s sick β€œby proxy” syndrome

        Dumbkuntz Syndrome

      • Gender Traitor

        That works!

        It’s kinda the opposite of “Munchausen by proxy” if you’re insisting your (obviously sick) kid is NOT sick.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, I’ll keep my own immune system tuned up like I always have – with poor personal hygiene. I don’t need you spraying whatever your crumbcrunchers brought home all over me.

    • Aloysious

      …now I want a cheeseburger. Onion rings with mustard, please and thank you.

      • R.J.

        Pool party on Labor Day. Burgers and Old Fashioneds will be consumed.

      • Aloysious

        Burgers and Old Fashioneds

        This right here is the win.

        I would like to place an order for a one quart old fashioned, Burger with the works, aforementioned onion rings, mushroom and sweet onion kabobs (since you are a Texican alien, the Texas 1015 sweet yellow onion is obligatory) … I’m sure I’m forgetting something… oh yeah as host you get a gift. The gift of the Rye whiskey.

    • Threedoor

      We 100% got our first round of COVID in Feb 2020 from a server at Applebees.

      He likely got it from the CNA he was banging and she got it from the nursing home that had management transfer/inspection from the elegantly area.

      Bastard.

      Now when I had it that winter I took it to work. Though shit I’ll get my boss sick. He’s a dick.

      Got to work and remembered I was self employed.

      • Threedoor

        Seattle area.

        WTF autocorrect?

      • Brochettaward

        When I was called in off my vacation to work, they kind of pushed me to wear a mask. While doing somewhat physical labor (not going to pretend it was construction, but it sucked a decent amount while still pretty sick with fever).

        The boss himself at the time would otherwise bitch incessantly over how Covid was just a bad cold.

        Stupidity is the real pandemic.

    • Rat on a train

      Would you like to spoon with him?

      • R.J.

        There he is. A Tick fan.

      • Threedoor

        Be carefull. Swiss may come in here driving a 60 Buick convertible and throw a high heal at you if you pun too much.

        Or would Steve Smith give you weaponized syphalis?

    • Aloysious

      From the live tv show with Patrick Warburton, I liked Bat Manuel, the Prince of the Night, or something.

      • R.J.

        That show was great. Like a superhero Seinfeld.

    • slumbrew

      I Arthur.

    • Chafed

      I loved that show.

  6. R.J.

    Regarding going to work sick:
    I have a small bucket of time off. It is to be used for vacation or sick time. So if I am sick for a week, I am not going to give up 1/3 of my vacation for that. I may not even have it available by mid-year. So fuck you, corporate America. I don’t get much choice in going to work.

    • DrOtto

      I’ve been self employed for the last 20 years. What’s a sick day? Seriously though, I can’t remember the last time I was sick other than when I caught Covid.

      • PutridMeat

        Other than the self-employed bit, same here. I don’t think I’ve accumulated more than a total of a week or so of sick days over the last 25 years. There are lots of people who are genuinely sick a lot and take a fair amount; But there’s also a non-negligible – I won’t say majority, but non-negligible – amount of laziness that takes advantage of the system. And it’s very easy to convince yourself that you’re sick if the incentives encourage it.

      • Fourscore

        I can’t remember the last time I had a cold. I had pneumonia about 30 years ago. I got sick going to St Croix, spent a week sitting in the car trying to stay warm while everyone else was on the beach in their swim suits. Finally had to see a dr. Came home and back to the local medic, x-ray, yep. pneumonia.

        That’s a long time ago.

        Eat as best you can. Sleep as best you can. Wash your hands as required. Avoid little kids, they’re germ factories.

        If you smoke, stop.

      • Brochettaward

        Washing your hands is a rather underrated aspect of not getting sick. I remember in Iraq that everyone but me chronically had stomach issues. Someone remarked on it one time and I said yea because I use hand sanitizer and wash my hands whenever I can unlike you nasty fucks.

        Saw more than a few of them come out of the porto-potty on the regular without washing them. Same thing when you see a public bathroom and the number of fucking disgusting fucks who walk out with no shame.

        Dirty hands don’t First.

      • Threedoor

        Bro, KBR sales bar got me sick several times. Dumb me I kept eating β€œhealthy” and kept packing on the pounds. And got food poisoning several more times.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The continued spread of communicable diseases proves that hand washing doesn’t work. QED.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Washing hands? Big pass. Even /esp in public. Fuck that shit. Y’all? Work on your technique. When handling, preparing food? Or hospital, etc? Sure. But for normal living? No, thanks. I’ll do just fine.

    • Brochettaward

      Said this above. Plenty of perverse incentives here. My favorite was the covid pay which was a fraction of regular pay. If you had the flu, you could call off normally and get sick pay. If you had covid, the corporate soul suckers forced you onto a leave of absence and slashed your pay. But they care!

      There’s a direct correlation between how low you are viewed on the totem pole and whether you can call in sick. Just like during covid when the all-important covid class was allowed to fuck off for a few years while the people making shit were asked to come in and struggle away while being called “essential.”

      And final bitch – on a personal level I didn’t get Covid for the first few years. I had a vacation. Came home from work on the last day prior and within 30 minutes started to feel like shit. So my vacation ended up being bed ridden for three days.

      Still got called back early to help with some bullshit. And yes they knew I was sick.

    • Threedoor

      When did sick days become paid vacation days?

      I remember when I called in sick I stayed home and didn’t get paid.

      • Brochettaward

        There are a lot of states that mandate sick time and at least in some cases it kind of fucks employees to where they just get general PTO for any reason.

        I’m in an at will state with no such regulations. I technically have sick pay and can use as much as of it as I want without impacting my PTO/vacation time.

        Government. Never stops winning.

      • rhywun

        For me it was when I had advanced beyond the lowest rung of the corporate ladder.

      • Threedoor

        Government.
        Figures.

        I’d like to see unemployment and workers comp be the same way.

        Don’t want unemployment? We’ll pay you more. Don’t want workers comp? Wait till you find out that your pay is going up $300 a month.

      • Gustave Lytton

        It’s not just states. Corporate world moved to PTO as a single bank instead of individual buckets. Usually as a reduction of total potential time off.

      • DrOtto

        My wife’s company has “unlimited” time off. They also have unrealistic utilization numbers and mandatory training that doesn’t count towards utilization. Thus her doing training videos on Sundays.

      • Threedoor

        Training videos.

        Naw I think I’ll find a new job.

      • Rat on a train

        Create an AI agent to take all your training.

  7. Evan from Evansville

    Big unpleasantness in Korea was getting a sick day. You had to go to the ‘doctor’ to get a slip for work. They have tons of clinics so you didn’t exactly have to go to a hospital, but a stupid hassle for young people who really just need to get rest. I used it for a hangover or two, and I wasn’t the only one, but people frequently complained about that. It does seem so stupid, but if the goal is to make it harder for expats (and native Koreans, to be fair) to play hookie, I suppose it makes sense. (‘Just give me a sack of REALLY sick days where I don’t have to go out, k?’)

    • Evan from Evansville

      ‘Never missing a day’ is absolutely a cultural thing there.

    • rhywun

      One of the recent innovations that you might have missed out on in the US is that a lot of white collar corps don’t police that shit anymore.

      I can take time off with literally zero notice and nobody gives a shit. I have to record it properly but otherwise no biggie. The days of calling your boss and pretending to be sick are over.

      • rhywun

        Plus my current boss, the one I inherited a few months ago after they fired my last boss, might be the most hands-off boss in history. From one week to the next we rarely hear from him. That has its pluses and minuses.

      • Chafed

        Yup. I have a very simple policy at my firm. It’s your sick time. Use as you need too. I don’t need or want a doctor’s note. Stay home/out of the office if you are sick.

        If you are using a sick say to take a day off. I don’t care. Just don’t screw over a client or coworker by doing it.

    • Rat on a train

      Take some Ranger Candy and get some rest.

      • Threedoor

        You piss clean after a four day weekend if you crank it up Thursday and Friday or so I’ve been told.

    • Threedoor

      The army was like that.
      You had to go to sick call before or right at formation time. And then wait several hours to be seen.

      Rather than just calling and saying hey I’m sick and need to sleep today. You got to expose the rest of the unit, not get sleep, and then be unrested.

      • Brochettaward

        I used sick call only once while in basic. Someone fired a blank right near my ear and something popped in there. I couldn’t hear a damn thing. They said it was an ear infection and sent me on my way. And it was on the family day weekend at that so didn’t really get out of much.

        The public shaming in the units I was in kind of meant only shitbags used sick call.

        The older I get the dumber I really think I am. I’ve had paid sick time for fucking years and dragged myself in no matter what to avoid pissing off managers who just fuck me over anyway (see rant from earlier today).

        I think what bothers me the most with the manager thing is that it’s genuinely in the manager’s best interests to keep me happy, yet they’re still too dumb and arrogant to not like blatantly piss in my face. The bar is really low for me at work or what I expect out of people in general. Like hey let’s just not be blatantly disrespectful.

        But yea that’s a side rant.

      • Brochettaward

        It was pretty entertaining to have a Drill yelling at you and having no fucking clue what they were saying. They didn’t seem to know how to react to that either. Just kind of shewed me away while cursing I’m told.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I went to sick call once during basic, near the end of cycle on a slow day. Had that perpetual barracks respiratory gunk/cough that wouldn’t go away. Completely unproductive, I don’t think I even saw a doc or PA, just a medic who basically said ok, come back in a week if it doesn’t go away (this was after like 10 weeks of that crap). After hours of standing and sitting upright, no slouching, no sleeping.

  8. rhywun

    Dew point 50Β° zOMG – opening windows. Zounds I miss fresh air.

    • R.J.

      Nice. It’s going to get under 80 degrees tonight. Dew point 66.

      *Sigh

  9. slumbrew

    Monocle update:

    Dev has been updated to v4.16.4:

    Various things to reduce Hostinger (not Cloudflare – my bad) from tagging Monocle users as bots:

    – Start at 10s polling period vs. 5s
    – Add jitter to poll intervals
    – Pause polling if tab is not visible
    – Add optional feature to just indicate new comments with ‘(+)’ and stop further polling
    – use fetch() instead of XHR
    – drop cache-busting _ param

    I’ll run on my various devices for a bit before promoting to master.

    If you want to run dev:

    https://gitlab.com/glibertarians/forumProject/-/raw/master/monocle.user.js

    • R.J.

      Thank you for all your efforts, sir!

      • slumbrew

        This update brought to you by the letters ‘L’, ‘L’ and ‘M’

      • Threedoor

        Lick
        Lovely
        Melons

        These acronyms are OOC

    • Fourscore

      I have no idea what you just said. I’ll have a be a robot

      Thanks anyway, the rest of the crew understands even if don’t.

      /Old Guy

    • Chafed

      I like when you talk sexy.

  10. Evan from Evansville

    We’re all watching an ep of Larry David’s new show, the historical one. *crosses self* Easily a very funny concept and idea. We’ll see how the execution goes. Dad, who voted for him, unless I am incredibly incredibly wrong, sounded like he wouldn’t watch if one would be about or with Obama. Might ask about that.

    Wish me luck, I s’pose. I hopefully don’t need any.

    Odd development on the Disability front: Pretty much cuz I’ve kept going out and finding /doing new work, I’m certainly not able to get Disability and the lawyer just directed me to other folk, whom I was only able to leave a message with. (A fun bit that I really don’t care for, at least by the state of Indiana, I’m categorized as “Medically Frail,” which does make certain bureaucratic things easier, is not the phrasing I’d use. I’d prefer INVALID, as I kinda play into that. ‘Yeah, I ain’t valid *in your system,* man. Just wheeze the juh-oooce.’)

    Tomorrow: Going to Congressman AndrΓ© Carson’s 15th Annual Indianapolis Job & Resource Fair. That’ll be a legit change of pace. Hmm. Wish me luck, or kindly bestow any insight one may have. Ascension will be there, and Birge and Held Group, and well as Bosma Enterprises and Carrier Corporation. ‘Twill be interesting. (I miss having a girlfriend /wingman for outings /missions like this. Things are so much more fun, and easier with one along.)

    • rhywun

      “Produced by Barack and Michelle Obama’s Higher Ground Productions”

      Hard, hard pass.

    • Brochettaward

      Hadn’t heard of this. I’m going to guess that Larry crafted it all very carefully with the right sort of politics.

    • Gustave Lytton

      First episode ok, second one noped me.

      • Threedoor

        Like a drink mixed by Bill Cosby.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Always room for rohypnol!

      • Threedoor

        Forget Me Now

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Keep pushing on the disability angel, EV. I got fucked out of it, and can barely walk, due to some work credit thing (I tried to be self supporting, but they don’t count that) even though I paid into to fund for 30+ years. You might need to stay at Mejer for a while before reapplying, but talk to a doctor nurse about things, as they are pretty good at knowing the system.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Yeah, I’m trying to get a talk with an “advocate” who’ll better know what levers I can pull. I pay my parents monthly for my car and phone, and I get my own food unless we go out, but I’m getting rent and pretty much everything else all for free. I’m sure I can get SNAP if I wanted and lied a bit, but I both don’t (really) and it’s not enough to really make a difference, regardless. I think it’s $391/mo. That’d be three days’ work at Meijer. *shrug*

        I’m told r WorkOne Marion County and Indiana Next Level Jobs will be there, and they sorta work with the state and vocational rehab. I’ll talk to them first. *off the record (in public)* IMO being in Asia for a decade+ makes it harder for me to find meaningful, long-term work than The Incident does.

    • R C Dean

      I absolutely cannot stand Larry David. It’s like he was engineered in a lab to irritate me and piss me off.

    • Threedoor

      β€œThis is what the wall feels like essay!”

    • Gdragon

      You don’t need to wear a glove on your hand to give The Shocker to an illegal. But it helps!

    • Sean

      I have gloves with LEDs built in.

      These sound rad!

  11. Threedoor

    I keep having to remind myself not to eat out in CDA Idaho.

    McDonald’s. Diet Coke. What you get. Half a glass of water with Coke to top it off.

    Costco. Pepperoni pizza. What you get. Cheese pizza.

    Every fucking time in this town for the last decade.

    DO NOT EAT HERE.
    EVER.

    DO NOT SUPPORT THE POTHEADS TRIPS TO WASHINGTON FOR DOPE.

    • rhywun

      My mom always said the reason she moved us east is that “Idaho is backwards”. She may have been correct.

      • Threedoor

        Once pot became legal in WA the meth heads kids became potheads and all the customer service in Post Falls/CDA went to shit.

  12. Evan from Evansville

    Re: Larry David and the Pursuit of Unhappiness:
    Declaration bit: Went on far too long. Not funny.
    WWI bit: Reused from Seinfeld.
    Phone big: Went on far too long and wasn’t funny to begin with.
    Rosa Parks: By far the strongest, though he recycled there, too. He ends up saving her seat cuz he doesn’t wanna be inconvenienced, but he’s so annoying she decides to get up and go to the back herself. <– Solid. I was hoping he'd go and join the blacks because they had begun to pray, but it was well done.

    I'm sure we'll watch more.

    • Brochettaward

      A cynical take on Rosa Parks would be wrong think. It’d make her into an activist who actually owned cars and had to go on the bus repeatedly over the course of weeks until she contrived a confrontation over the issue to get what she wanted.

      Oh, wait…that’s just what actually happened.

      • Threedoor

        Parks was also the replacement for the less sympathetic looking activist they tried using earlier.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Rosa was praying for David, trying to get him to join along. He does, but humorously complains to God about [recycled material and old jokes] so she goes to the back to avoid him. Not bad, especially if someone didn’t know Seinfeld material.

        I still like him joining the blacks because he doesn’t want to pray. I wouldn’t have written it that way, but it actually would work to promote many Lefty ideas. Anti-religion but pro joining blacks. But that’d ostracize Parks and we can’t have that, which is also why I wouldn’t have written it that way.

        Hired by not-Obama but whatever: I’d have it be the bus driver who wouldn’t take shit and just let people sit where they wanted. He hassles everyone who doesn’t abide. Maybe a cop enforcing the segregation is somehow in violation of something. Not having a ticket, or being across the “Stand Past Here” on the bus floor, etc, and he kicks the cop to the naughty-boy area. That’d still be family friendly. And pro public transportation!!!

        It was all Larry David trying to be hip and funny with really old material, only changed the venue. Oh! Biggest problem! He’s a terrible actor! Nailed it. *drops a BIG fart to conclude this thought*

        (New thought: c. 2000 Putin looks a lot like Daniel Craig.)

      • Threedoor

        Daniel Craig looks like Putin.

        007 is playing both sides. Always has been.

  13. Gustave Lytton

    2) syphilis is still around

    3) the Army has been conducting a bioweapons breeding experiment of poison oak at Ft Lewis

    • Rat on a train

      A city boy at Fort Lost in the Woods camouflaged his helmet with poison ivy.

  14. Brochettaward

    Watching a Medieval history channel. Guy did one on psychopaths and he said the structure of society was set up for these people to succeed because power was exercised and based in violence.

    Has anything really changed beyond how outwardly violent they can be? We’ve add this ridiculous veneer of credibility around it all with muh democracy, but the nature of power is and always be force.

    • Threedoor

      It’s an evolutionary surveillance mechanism that works. Just like the simp sometimes gets to breed by being weak and cowardly.

    • Evan from Evansville

      I think the amount of ‘secretive,’ psychopathic violence corroborates with the size of the group. It’s part of the Bell Curve of humanity, its prevalence. If its stomped down enough, in a China-like situation or the KGB, maybe such aggressive tendencies are ‘allowed’ to occur, but just with a polite leash on ’em.

      Time, space and resources are what’s ‘necessary’ to carry such serial killer-type violence out. I wonder how that worked in smaller villages, maybe just past the Dunbar number or around it. A village, maybe 100 or so, I’m thinking medieval England, but they’re on a semi-convenient (for something) intersection, fairly regular traffic, but not bustling. So the town has a pub or three, a small church, an inn of some sort. Some corpses show up. Villagers probably suspect the comers-and-goers, and maybe. I’m sure happens, time to time. But it’s some apprentice baker or tradesman, or something. Or more established. That’d be tricky to hide, especially if not in a position of power. Hmm. *scribbles screenplay* (Don’t worry, Whoopi Goldberg stars as a corpse.)

      • Threedoor

        I found a paper that correlated modern murder rates and historical execution numbers.

        It was pretty compelling. Europe seemed to cull murderers for about 400 years. Russia didn’t.

    • Threedoor

      I have to figure out closed captions on YT

      My guess is she talks about great drum work, weird prog rock lyrics, and the vocal equivalent of angle grinders on chalkboards.

  15. Brochettaward

    The Reddit files continued. I pointed out when talking about universal healthcare or socialized care for the millionth time and someone brought up people dying of it here that America has better survival rates than most of the world.

    This was the response:
    “Start with cancer survivor rate. Which means nothing really. The incidence of cancer is the prescient statistic.”

    I’m struggling to see how anyone thinks that the healthcare system has control over how many people develop cancer. As if doctors are there to slap the carcinogenic biofood out of your hand or stop you from being unhealthy in general.

    If only Americans saw their doctor more, they’d obviously live healthier. And their genetics would improve.

    • Threedoor

      Genetics improve when the socialized healthcare stops subsidizing poor dietary choices

  16. Brochettaward

    Erroneous is one of those words that I’ve never heard someone say in an argument where they didn’t come off as a giant clown and then prove that every step of the way going forward.

    I suspect it’s one of those words that morons have heard and sounds big and impressive to them so they actually remembered it and think that shouting it at you proves their smart and not dumb.

    • CPRM

      +1 Steven A. Smith monologue

    • Gdragon

      “proves their smart and not dumb.”
      ‐——–

      Am I the only asshole who chuckled a bit? πŸ˜‰

    • CPRM

      And The Hat swoops in!

    • Gdragon

      Knew that was coming. Really should have bet on it.

  17. CPRM

    If you’re not too sick to get out of bed, go to work. Chances are you got whatever you have from someone there anyway. I have a chronic cough from nasal drainage. People always assume that means I’m sick. If I missed work every day I coughed up something I would only be at work like 10 days a week. Got diarrhea? There are bathrooms for a reason. Don’t be a pussy.

    • CPRM

      /”I would only be at work like 10 days a week*” *year

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeesh, talk about being a pussy. If you have diarrhea wear an adult diaper and carry some air freshener with you.

  18. Ted S.

    Maybe shut the “shelter” and let the homeless freeze to death?

    TOWN OF ULSTER, N.Y. β€” A brawl at the Kingston Motel on Tuesday drew police officers from three departments and seemed to underscore the concerns of Town Board members who say the motel, which is primarily used by Ulster County as a homeless shelter, is both unsafe for its residents and a drain on the town’s resources.

    Ulster Police Chief Kyle Berardi said in an email to the Freeman on Tuesday, Aug. 11, that officers from his department, the county Sheriff’s Office and state police responded to a call of 20 people fighting at the Forest Hill Drive motel. He said when officers arrived, the parties β€œdispersed” and the alleged victim declined to cooperate with police.

    Assistant Deputy County Executive Amberly Campbell disputed Berardi’s description, saying: β€œThose reports have been greatly exaggerated.”

    The fight, she said, involved five girls with a number of bystanders looking on. She said two caseworkers from the county Department of Social Services who were at the site at the time helped break up the fracas.

    Still, it is situations such as that happened on Tuesday that prompted the Ulster Town Board last week to pass unanimously a resolution demanding the county immediately cease all new placements at the motel and develop and implement a plan to move those currently there to new locations.

    It is a demand that is likely to gain no traction in county government, which has struggled for years to address the homeless situation amid an ever-growing housing crisis.

    • rhywun

      More shelters, permanent and affordable housing needed to solve problem, she adds

      Now why hasn’t anyone thought of that before?!

    • Threedoor

      Yes.

  19. Ted S.

    Anybody ever heard the term “cigfluencer”? One of the news outlets I have an RSS feed of apparently brought on a “public health” “expert” to decry the alleged rise in so-called cigfluencers.

    • Sean

      Smoking is cool.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Its influencers advocating cigarettes to push against vaping and Zen and the like. Smoke β€˜em if you got β€˜em of course but it’s some real dumbass shit.

  20. UnCivilServant

    Morning, Glibs.

    How the milestome of 275 today. πŸ₯³

    Scale says I’m getting lighter, clothes say I’m getting smaller. It just doesn’t appear in the mirror. I still look as fat as ever.

    • R.J.

      It takes some time to notice. Especially since you see yourself every day.

      • UnCivilServant

        So what you’re saying is I should turn out the light in the bathroom so I don’t see the mirror?

        Wait, then I wouldn’t be able to read the scale. πŸ€”

      • R.J.

        Try looking at a photo of yourself from a year ago. That works for me.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t have pictures of myself. Only weird people do that.

      • Gdragon

        “clothes say I’m getting smaller”
        ——

        I always trust the clothes. The visual image will catch up soon enough.

      • Ted S.

        Would you guys believe I was climbing the Catskills if I didn’t have the pictures of myself?

      • UnCivilServant

        Yes, Ted.

        It’s an odd choice of things to brag about, so the simpler explaination is that it’sm true rather than you making it up.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, U (πŸ‘πŸ˜ƒ), Sean, R.J., Ted’S., rhy, and Roat!

      • R.J.

        Good morning!

      • Gender Traitor

        How are you today, R.J.?

      • UnCivilServant

        Morning, GT. Apparently I made a shedload of typos in my first comment. πŸ™‡β€β™‚οΈ

      • Gender Traitor

        No matter! Congratulations on the milestone! Everything else going OK?

      • UnCivilServant

        I made it to the office no problem, but it’s a wednesday, and the policy is to have everyone in the office on wednesdays, so it’ll be noisey when the other people arrive.

      • R.J.

        I am well. First day of school in high school for my daughter. I am taking her to the bus stop shortly.
        Looking forward to a day off in Friday!

      • Gender Traitor

        Wow! Speaking of milestones! I hope it goes well for her (with a minimum of adolescent angst!)

      • (((Jarflax

        the policy is to have everyone in the office on wednesdays

        They want the maximum choice available for humpday

      • rhywun

        Mornin’.

      • Gender Traitor

        What’s the countdown to moving day, rhy?

      • rhywun

        T-8 days

      • Gender Traitor

        πŸ˜ƒπŸ‘

    • Threedoor

      I bought out a formerly fat guys shorts and t shirt collection the other day at a yard sale.

      It was a great score.

  21. Fourscore

    Good Mornin’, Y’all.

    Another great day on the horizon. We may or may not have a brief shower this morning.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, 4(20)! We had some nasty storms pass through yesterday. A neighbor down the street had a goodly portion of a large tree land on their roof! 😳 From the looks of the radar, we may have more on the way. Hope your rain, if any, is light and gentle!

      • Gender Traitor

        That’s the downside of living in a neighborhood full of “mature trees.” 😟

      • (((Jarflax

        My cats are displeased. My failures to make the rain stop and to let them go outside have offended their highnesses.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Glad yo hear you’re safe. So much for tornados are ‘rare’ in NKY.

  22. Chipping Pioneer

    Connections #1158 🌟
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    • Rat on a train

      the colors

  23. Rat on a train

    How long does Wisconsin have to find the votes needed for Hong to win?

    • UnCivilServant

      California Election Day Week Month.

  24. R C Dean

    the first major outbreaks of Lyme occurred in the areas around the lab

    That sounds familiar.

    My working assumption would be that Lyme was a bioweapon that was accidentally released.