Good morning my Glibs and Gliberinas! And what an absolutely beautiful morning it always is!
Trump campaign predicts victory.
Claims that he has proof of fraud.
This summarizes the fraud perfectly. What’s the probability of Biden, compared to Hillary, underperforming in all metro areas except in four that happen to be in swing states?
Nevada GOP sends criminal referral to Justice Department about instances of voter fraud.
Virginia Democrat flipping out in yesterday’s caucus call.
Understandably so, as they are going to most likely have a razor thin majority.
Theory that Van Gogh’s delirium was caused by alcohol withdrawal.
Ya’ll need to calm your tits and think of all the silver linings, Democrats are now scared of embracing a far left agenda, half the country have been fully red pilled and completely lost faith in the system, and if Trump ends up losing, he’ll be the most hilarious bomb thrower and completely unleashed. But, I don’t yet think that he’s going to lose, that motherfucker does not go down that easy.
That’s all I got for today, I’ll leave you with a song and move along with my day.
baselessly claims
without evidence
It is easy to claim something is with out evidence, if you refuse to accept any.
Good morning, Banjos
Morning, to be fair I don’t think they were saying turn away from socialism. I think they meant don’t tell the voters.
You’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud!
Yeah, good luck with that, Abs. You forget you’re in the same party as AOC. She will not knuckle under easily to some suburban white chick in a marginally-blue district. What is poison in VA-7 is delicacy in NY-14.
Exactly why the next two years will be entertaining. The leftists cannot possibly shut their traps – it’s not their nature. The louder they are, the farther they will drag the party down into holding only the most insulated of enclaves.
Taibbi has a fresh analysis up and sees a strong possibility of the Republicans being a populist/working-class based coalition – unless of course they screw it up (and you have to put that at least at even odds). He sees this an enduring Trumpian transformation.
Now I would absolutely agree that Trump broke the old party; I just didn’t think (and am still not sold on) a real realignment was on the table. It will also be entertaining to watch.
However, now more than ever there is no party that draws me in in the slightest.
There’s certainly one party that repels me more than the other.
Sure, for now. I’m not sure how that’s going to shake out in the future. Part of that will depend on what Dems decide, and part will depend on what the Repubs decide.
I loathe the blood-and-soil conservative shit almost as much as the woke left.
Trump did change the party. He left a legacy. I say fight to keep it and don’t concede.
They traded the term communist for progressive about 100 years go to hide their real identity. Sometime after 2008, the crazies got out of the bag and ran all over yelling socialism.
So… Ohio’s no longer a swing state? My long nightmare during election seasons is over?
The metro areas here went heavy blue, including a headline saying that in some precincts Trump only got 1 or 2 votes (but it’s paywalled, and fuck that noise). But the state as a whole was called fairly early.
They just didn’t keep counting long enough to turn it blue.
“What’s the probability of Biden, compared to Hillary, underperforming in all metro areas except in four that happen to be in swing states?”
What’s the probability that progressives, whose ideology is based on armed robbery, and don’t believe the rules apply to them, would count the votes honestly out of the goodness of their hearts?
Pretty much the same chance, that they will stop trying to control everyone’s lives.
A lot of the Cuck “Right” is running with the old “If there was a massive conspiracy, don’t you think someone would have blown the whistle.”
Dude, if there was a massive conspiracy, and I’m not saying there is one, it would be composed of a combination of
1. Cynical political operatives who make no bones that they are seizing the power and wealth that comes with control of the state.
2. Diehard ideological zealots who believe to their bones that they are personally fighting a theocratic fascist takeover of Our Democracy.
Neither of those two groups would purposefully spill the beans if indeed there was a big fraud operation.
If I actually believed that Joe Biden was Literally Hitler, and I had the access and the ability to manufacture fake ballots for his opponent, I’d be morally obligated to do so, and to keep it a secret from his Blue Gestapo.
Dude.
All real conspiracies involve old guys in robes surrounding a conference room table.
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF THE TABLE?
Check-MATE conspiratards.
“By Any Means Necessary” excludes election fraud?
Morning, Banjos.
Cute kitty.
Kitty?
Death penalty
Twitter permanently suspended an account belonging to former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon after he suggested Thursday morning that Dr. Anthony Fauci and FBI Director Christopher Wray should be beheaded. His comments were made in a video posted to his Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter accounts.
Bannon falsely claimed President Trump had won reelection, despite several key states still being too close to call, and said that he should fire both Fauci and Wray.
He then said he would go further: “I’d put the heads on pikes. Right. I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats. You either get with the program or you are gone.”
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Earlier Thursday evening YouTube removed the video for violating its policy against “inciting violence.” Twitter said it had permanently suspended the account of Bannon’s “War Room” podcast for glorifying violence.
Bannon’s comments came as other supporters of President Trump also used violent and militaristic rhetoric to back Trump’s baseless claims of a rigged election and to condemn his perceived political opponents.
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Ciaran O’Connor, an analyst with ISD, said that, although such posts may be hyperbolic, Facebook groups can be used to coordinate offline protests or events that could turn violent.
“It was possible for this group to become a hub for potentially violent behavior,” O’Connor said
Could be construed as a direct threat.
Causes sadnesses among the True Believers.
Bannon ruins his opportunities for excellent input into the public conversation with this bullshit.
I think they assume people are sheep who will obey without question, and given the lockdowns were accepted by quite a lot of people I am not sure they are wrong.
Bannon ruins his opportunities by acting like your rummy old Uncle that showed up at Thanksgiving sans invite. “Great. Steve’s here. Get the rubber sheets and the mop bucket…”
Fuck the conversation. BLM burned and murdered for months, and in return every single cultural institution kneeling and genuflecting to their Holy Cause. When the Muslim extremists behead someone they get the “free speech has limits” treatment from the major cultural institutions of America.
Bob Barr is always conversating about the rule of law and the Constitution…..and the government of Pennsylvania just keeps doing what needs to be done to acquire power.
Kathy Griffin was unavailable for comment.
Did her Election Day tweet get pulled?
Not as far as I know.
Good Morning!
I love this time of day. I’m full of coffee, and there are new lynx to peruse.
And there hasn’t been time for my coworkers to provoke me into a murderous rage yet.
The only coworker who’s willing to speak seems to be hoping for a blue state bailout so the projects at work can go forward.
I have a hard time keeping quiet, but nothing I say would reflect positively.
This shift has happy, competent technicians who are willing to solve their own problems. It’s pretty awesome.
Now I know you’re just making stuff up.
All the techs who’s favorie words are “not my job” have clustered together on A shift.
However, on this one I do have an amazingly picky (but not completely thorough) proofreader so I’m currently in a cycle of:
1. Review a pile of related procedures, submit edits
2. After about five are submitted, first one (A) is rejected for reasons that will also apply to the others in the review queue.
3. By the time the revised A gets to the proofreader, they have discovered another needed edit in C that also retroactively applies to A.
4. Rinse and repeat.
I started off needing to edit 25 JBI. Over the last three days, nine have been submitted into the carousel and three have made it through.
According to my TV, Atlanta managed to gin up enough votes last night to put Biden ahead in Georgia after they threw out the poll observers
Listen to Banjos ( ‘Mornin Banjos) It ain’t over yet.
It’s not over
This shit is going to lead to real political violence. Do they truly not understand how dangerous this is?
No. Because they are doing it for the “right reasons”. There’s no reason to be afraid. Besides, they’ll have a permanent majority, just like the last time.
Think of your typical progressive. Now think about how firm a grasp on reality they have.
How long until Stacey Abrams claims victory?
“Van Gogh’s delirium caused by alcohol withdrawal, not syphilis, study says”
Why not both?
Solid point, drunk guys stick it anything even potatoes.
how did you people put a man on the moon when you can barely count?
The Nazis did it for us. That’s how.
Ouch.
Notice how these things have only been happening since the US officially went metric.
It did?!
Yup.
I’d guess we’re no more than 50% there. ??♂️
#resist
#themetricsystemistarded
you mean 1/2?
Or 1/8 of a hogshead.
The pre-decimalization of British currency was great.
Except for Guineas, which were stupd and racist.
Of course, that system was for a time when 1/16 of a penny was a useful amount of money.
That was before we went stupid.
How do we reach these poor deluded deplorables?
U.S. voters went to the polls starkly divided on how they see President Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, with a surprising twist: In places where the virus is most rampant now, Trump enjoyed enormous support.
An Associated Press analysis reveals that in 376 counties with the highest number of new cases per capita, the overwhelming majority — 93% of those counties — went for Trump, a rate above other less severely hit areas. Most were rural areas in Montana, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa and Wisconsin.
Taking note of the contrast, state health officials are pausing for a moment of introspection. Even as they worry about rising numbers of hospitalizations and deaths, they hope to reframe their messages and aim for a reset on public sentiment now that the election is over.
“Public health officials need to step back, listen to and understand the people who aren’t taking the same stance” on mask-wearing and other control measures, said Dr. Marcus Plescia of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials.
Yes, yes, of course. Introspection self-awareness and open exchange of ideas is exactly what I anticipate in Biden’s America.
Maybe those places are populated with people that slightly stiffer spines.
No. It’s obvious that Trump voters harbor a death wish. I just wrote that so it must be true!
And? If the election were held in April “the counties with the biggest surges” would have been overwhelmingly carried by the Dems.
What’s their point?
Because this makes sense.
GA Presidential Election Results
Trump (R): 50% (2,432,426 votes)
Biden (D): 49% (2,413,836 votes)
Estimated: > 99% votes in
As soon as they get to one over for Biden, they’ll quit counting.
They got there last night.
Delaware county PENNSYLVANIA – camera number 7
Watch the “election officials” fill out ballots so the voters don’t have to.
Goddammit
Looks like he’s reading off what is marked on one and she is filling it out to replicate the one he read off…could be that they are clearly marked in a way you can see, but weren’t reading correctly in the machine. I don’t know the procedure, but that is the most generous way to interpret it.
That’s not their job to do. If the ballot cannot be processed, it gets tossed.
I remember a lot of talk about hanging chads…
It should be noted that Florida cleaned its act up after that.
The only states that are lagging on reporting this year are ones where it looks like Biden is going to miraculously squeak thru. And they all have deep blue metros with long histories of voter fraud. And the metros are reporting last when the rural counties got their stuff done quickly. Just a coincidence.
I’m wondering if this is supposed to be processing of mail-in ballots. Theoretically those should be able to be tallied by being scanned but the rules may require that the only thing that goes into the scanner is the thin cardstock which I recall my regular ballot to have been made of when I voted in-person.
If it is, it’s insane. Mail-in ballots are already insecure, and they create a step whereby a manually created copy is the one that counts?
True end-to-end transparency would include a granular explanation of WTF these people are doing in the video. Also, a granular pre-election description of how various types of ballots will be processed.
+1. I think that mail in voting can be done securely, but I have yet to see an explanation of how they will make it secure. It’s just “Trust us”. Well I don’t trust them, but if they explained their procedures, I could come to trust them.
Which is why they insisted on the mail-in ballot crap instead of tried and true voting machines this year.
Nothing to see here. Move along, citizen.
The House races makes the 4 city thing even clearer. The overcount are in safe areas that were easy win House seats, so didn’t change anything there.
As I have said multiple times, switching to the ME/NE style district rewarding of EC votes makes large scale fraud less likely. Fraud in one place flips at most 3 EC, and realistically, 2 EC, as the first one was probably already won. It also makes the races easier to call, as you are looking at a handful of close districts. There are 6 states questionable right now, that would be 12 EC plus any close districts, maybe 30 total EC unaccounted for.
Instead we have about 70 or so EC unaccounted for.
Also makes it clear of couple of Senate races were absolutely fraudulent – Michigan in particular.
The negative is it increases the importance of gerrymandering.
The other option would be to award them proportionate to vote, but that leads back to open ended fraud potential, but realistically maybe 1 or 2 EC per state. It takes a lot of fraudulent votes to move the needle more than 1 EC. It makes states like California fun, as small parties target it trying to get to 2% and get their one EC vote.
Oh goddammit. At least the link works.
“We have a mandate!” Pelosi reportedly said before getting off the phone call.
WHEEEEEE!
Makes sense she is excited to get a new arrow in her quiver from her date.
She likes ’em long, skinny and pointy, eh?
That’s how collagen injections work.
I thought mandates were more, like, overwhelming.
No, remember any support no matter how minuscule is enough to to claim a mandate, since the media will say it is so.
And also, re-elected R presidents are “lame ducks” before their second term begins.
C’mon, man. Everyone knows that even the slightest majority control of the government by Dems is a mandate.
(I mean, look what they did in VA…)
It’s a mandate from
HeavenGaia.Campaign is confident as several states remain up in the air
I am not optimistic. Seems to be slipping away. I don’t think you can prove enough fraud to account for the difference as
votesballots continue to trickle in and only going one direction.This whole shitshow is illegitimate. I understand
votesballots are trickling in for senate races now? Fuck. Off.Unless those states are forced to re-vote with observers in place all the way, there is no way anyone will ever accept these results as legitimate.
I think both GA senate races will be runoffs, and will be GOP landslides, as I don’t think they can pull this shit off twice in succession in a short period of time.
Not unless they want a civil war. The only hope for the people doing this is that, they manage to mollify the half of the population that is exploding right now. Because the main inhibitor to conflict was wealth and the lockdowns destroyed that and the idea of being able to get it in the near future.
Unless they want to go twice in secessions in a short period of time.
*applause *
This would have needed to have been stopped back in the earlier questionable vote tests (looks over at the Franken trunkful of votes).
Yep. They’re looking to lock it up. That’s the only way they can stonewall investigations after the fact.
If they pull it off, they will go full steam ahead, they can’t afford not to at this point. There’s too many people that are at risk of jail time.
Someone else might need to calm down.
Chaser:
Progjection at its finest.
Michigan has been called.
By who? “News” networks? That is not how an election is certified. And it is irrelevant as long as there is ongoing litigation.
When the Assosciated Press announces a state, it becomes a “fact.” NPR says so.
“Ya’ll need to calm your tits”
What about just one tit?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmBCgmLVMAA_OGB.jpg
That’s safe for work, btw.
Message malfunction?
House Democrats lost seven seats in battleground districts, including in South Carolina, New Mexico and Iowa. Democrats also lost two seats in South Florida, including one that was hardly on their radar, which some Democrats blame on the potency of “socialism” attacks in a Cuban American stronghold.
Rep. Donna Shalala of Florida, who unexpectedly lost her race in Miami, said on the call that she did not blame top Democrats or the campaign arm: “Leadership has been excellent and I have no complaints.”
But Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington, co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, jumped on the call to defend liberal ideas, saying that’s what keeps the Democratic base motivated to turn out and vote.
“If we don’t keep these folks engaged … we will lose again in 2024, and we may lose again in the next midterm,” Jayapal told Democrats on the call, according to two people who dialed in.
Jayapal conceded that Democrats need to have “conversations about language” as several members on the call complained about charged terms like “defund the police” repeatedly weaponized against them during the campaign. But, Jayapal said, blaming fellow Democrats isn’t the answer, either.
“I ask my colleagues to quickly jump to not quickly blaming certain people, who incidentally play a part in energizing young people,” she said
They just weren’t socialisming hard enough.
Who are these people that don’t find brownnosing repellent?
Yeah, real energized. AOC won re-election on the strength of 150K votes (out of less than a quarter-million cast) in her district. Real enthusiasm there!
So the scenario I am wondering about…
Biden is declared the winner and Trump is unable to get that stopped through the courts. Biden gets sworn in and the Dem’s start shoving through loads of far left programs – which finally shocks some large number of old-school democrats. A bigger shock comes when Harris wrests the presidency away from Biden, declaring him unfit to hold the office.
So in 2024, when Trump runs against Harris the usurper…
If the shenanigans don’t get slapped down this time, just forget about 2024.
Push what shit through where? The Senate at best can be 50-50 – and Manchin isn’t going to sacrifice himself for the fucking left, so the Dems hold a paper majority there. If they go aggressively left – even just attempting it, they will get blown out of the water in the mid-terms. There are intelligent Dems that get that – even if the noisy little fucks don’t.
Either through Executive Order or simply getting the GOP to waffle on something significant (I don’t see them standing up against some BS “mandate”).
I’d love to be proven wrong and see the Repubs grow a pair but they usually let me down so I’ve gotten used to that. With Harris running things I can only imagine how silly it could all go.
The Republicans are the Browns of politics!
50-50 and VP Harris gets the tie-breaker. So they will push through their wish-list in a hurry before the mid-terms.
Fear is the mind-killer…
Harris wouldn’t stand a chance against a greasy paper bag with a GOP sticker on it, let alone against a round two Trump. For all the media coverage and adulation she’s received, I’d wager that most voters still know almost nothing about her. Obama had a similarly hazy background, and the only reason he made it anywhere is because the Chicago machine engineered it. Harris has no such advantage.
Bruh…
Has he paid attention to what his party has done over the past 4 years?
They fucked him twice, right? And yet no, they would never try to do it to the other side.
Much of it to him.
Says the dude who shafted in the NY primaries four years ago.
Like any good Marxist, Bernie is always more than willing to take a knife to the back if it’s good for the party.
He just needs to pick a dacha to cry about his humiliation in.
And_
Thursday’s more than hourlong call also marked the first time Democrats heard from their campaigns chief, Rep. Cheri Bustos, since House Democrats dropped a net five seats in a cycle in which they expected to flip as many as a dozen.
“I’m furious. Something went wrong here across the entire political world,” Bustos told her colleagues, pointing to polls, turnout models and “prognosticators,” according to several sources on the call.
“The voters who turned out look a lot more like 2016 than to what was projected,” Bustos said, adding: “We will do a post mortem.”
The Illinois Democrat has come under intense heat from her colleagues after Tuesday night’s results, which left members and their top candidates once again feeling blindsided by the GOP’s strong showing.
Blindsided, they were.
Double down on the hypocritical calls of bigotry, cancel culture, and hyping socialism! That’s what wins!
What’s the probability of Biden, compared to Hillary, underperforming in all metro areas except in four that happen to be in swing states?
What’s the probability that Doddering Hiddin’ Biden gets millions more votes across the country than either Barry or Her Shrillness?
Wait, Do Republicans Actually Have A Chance Of Winning The House?
What’s the probability that the GOP retains the Senate*, makes gains in the House and loses the presidency?
*obvious caveat since
votesballots are apparently still trickling in for some races.I would have absolutely believed a MI result where the turnout was low in Detroit, but in the suburban blue collar counties just barely enough votes flipped to Old Scranton Joe to tip the state over. Where Trump didn’t get any more votes than he did last time.
I do not believe the good people of inner city Detroit were more excited and enthused for Joe Biden than Barack Obama. Oh, and isn’t Detroits population declining? So more Detroiters in both percentage and absolute numbers voted for Biden then voted for Obama.
I think some increase can be explained that mail in ballots take way less time and effort than voting in person. So enthusiasm makes less of a difference.
Yeah I keep saying that IF THERE IS FRAUD it’s people filling out mail in ballots for other people. The standard E-Day fraud in big blue cities is baked into the cake.
Like, take Philly. Per CNN, Philly had 350,000 mail in ballots on E-Day morning to be processed. I want those fucking audited. I want 3500 of them pulled at random, and I want the doors knocked on, and I want to hear if the person at that door says “Yes, I filled that out, that’s my signature.” or if they say “That’s my old roomate’s name.” or “Damn it that’s my insufferable progressive nieces’ handwriting.” or “I never vote.”
“I want those fucking audited. ”
I severely doubt that will happen.
Mornin’ Banjos. I read as many of your links as my blood pressure will allow.
I hope you’re right Banjos.
As it’s Friday, here’s some beer news for you to read about. First, a cannabis company is acquiring Sweetwater Brewing (known for the G13 strains and 420 pale ale). In less entertaining news, Shelton Brothers importing has ceased operation, and will be liquidating. So if you like high end European imports (specifically sours), stock up now.
Not worth a link since it would trigger moderation, and is the least interesting of the bunch, Dixie Brewing has changed their name. As Dixie is now verboten, they will be Faubourg Brewing.
I will still drink a Dixie any chance I get. Their Blackened Voodoo is alright, but I really miss the old Dixie “45” offering.
Good morning, Banjos!
Thank you for providing the Lynx of Absurdity for us today.
For what it’s worth, my tits are calm. Bored, even. There was a verbal altercation at the gym yesterday between a maga youngster and an old commie. It was sad. I did, however, take the opportunity to share with some of my fellow onlookers that the true enemy is the State.
Nice song. I, too, see a little light.
Have a wonderful day, peeps! There’s a lot of good out there. Go get some!
“Republicans turn on Trump and call his claims of a conspiracy against him INSANE”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8919791/Republicans-slam-Trumps-claim-massive-conspiracy-Democrats-media-big-money.html
They dragged that asshole Tom Ridge out.
Creech’s friend wasn’t right; instead, the suburban GOP was apparently actively trying to get people not to vote for Trump.
#fakenews
“Texas swiftly processed more than 11 million votes & quickly announced winners across 2 time zones.
To ensure transparency we allow poll watchers from each party to participate in the voting & tally processes.
What is happening in some states undermines trust in elections.”
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1324578495591337984
What’s the probability that Doddering Hiddin’ Biden gets millions more votes across the country than either Barry or Her Shrillness?
MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVAAAAARRR!
The people rose up as one. Democracy were saved, she were.
Funny how he had no coat-tails to ride though.
“U.S. Postal Worker Caught at Canadian Border With Stolen Ballots In Car Trunk
The United States Postal Service, Office of Inspector General, was called to retrieve the recovered mail pieces. A subsequent inventory of the recovered mail pieces revealed three absentee ballots sent to two Buffalo, NY, addresses from the Erie County, NY Board of Elections, 106 political mailings, 220 first class mailings, and 484 standard mailings for an approximate total of 813 mail pieces. The first-class letter mailings were destined for zip codes 14227, 14211, 14214, with the majority destined for 14215. Cancellation dates showed seven dates between September 16 and October 26, 2020.”
https://breaking911.com/u-s-postal-worker-caught-at-canadian-border-with-stolen-ballots-in-car-trunk/
This type of journalism aggravates me. They will report on a guy with a whopping three ballots in his car so they can say they covered the voter fraud, but they ignore the dump of thousands of votes for one candidate that happen in the middle of the night.
that sounds very stupid. why would anyone do that? false flag?
Imma start calling Banjos “Calm your tits”! Mornin’ ,Calm your tits!
I was hoping for some angry Punk and she came through!
I feel attacked by all the mentions of my tits.
““Our new study shows 1.8M excess, or ‘ghost’ voters in 353 counties across 29 states. The data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots/ballot applications to voter registration lists””
https://twitter.com/JudicialWatch/status/1324214862688366593
I would be surprised if Trump managed to pull off a win. He’s behind in GA, AZ, and NV, and barely ahead in PA, and the Democrats counting the votes have a track record of winning during vote counts that drag on via “discovered” ballots.
To win, he’d have to win both GA and PA, and either AZ or NV.
I
“I’m watching Fox News right now.
It’s not just Democrats that are trying to oust Trump.
The establishment swamp “conservatives” are in on it too.
Whatever the outcome of the election may be, never trust these people again.”
https://twitter.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1324505687645474818
“Where the fuck is the GOP? Why aren’t they doing battle to save this election? The corruption is deeper than just the Democratic Party.”
https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1324483481938857986
Where the fuck is the GOP?
Apparently Graham donated to Trump’s legal fund. Maybe he is not down with the “cool kids” anymore?
It continually amazes me that I, who am totally outside this stuff, can see the utter exploitative frauds that run the two major political parties, and yet the people who actually are immersed in this stuff express a seemingly genuine shock when they get bitten.
I would expect that anyone *in* the system should be very aware of its true nature; it’s not like this nature is at all hidden.
Never underestimate the power of “but we’re good people.”
The GOP understands that they don’t need to be in charge, to stay in on the grift. They get paid just the same for being the loyal opposition.
…and even their ardent supporters will forgive them for not getting anything done.
The Lincoln Project wasn’t an outlier, just the more visible manifestation.
I don’t think numbers relate to US government the way you seem too.
Clyburn said, “I’m convinced when it’s all said and done Joe Biden will be the president-elect and we do know that he’s got over 72 million votes. That’s a mandate to me to change the direction of this country. So the House is still in our hands, not with the numbers we hoped, but we’ll come back in two years and take care of that as well.”
The entire difference (last I checked) can be absorbed into the difference in CA, alone. So why don’t you fuck off.
Interesting.
If Barr gave a shit, there would be Federal Marshals at the these places already.
This, he’s a swamp creature, interested in preserving the institutions.
In trying to “preserve” them he is participating in the destruction of their legitimacy.
Hoover ran the FBI for what? Five decades?
The nature of the institutions is that they are corrupt.
“Where the fuck is the GOP? Why aren’t they doing battle to save this election? The corruption is deeper than just the Democratic Party.”
Because most mutineers are cowardly, resentful backstabbers.
Il Doge is at the vet. The vet tech said the doc would probably call me later with a referral.
Yeah, nah. He’s 17. He ain’t goin to no doggie neurologist.
17 is goddamn amazing. You must be the best owner ever.
I had an elderly neighbor years ago who had a 20-year-old Chihuahua! Two old guys, takin’ walks together.
20 years with a Chihuahua sounds like a punishment!
LOL
About a month before my wife’s Pomeranian died, I carried her to a nice park so she could have a walk. She was 14 years old. She was enjoying herself, ambling along, when around the corner came another elderly Pomeranian.
Both dogs stopped, looked at each other, and started wagging their tails. This was the first (and only) time they met. Both were cancer survivors. Both had bad arthritis. But after greeting each other warmly, they spent fifteen minutes sniffing each other, sniffing bits of the ground together, and generally hanging out.
It was as if two old friends had run into each other unexpectedly.
God, I still get misty eyed thinking about it.
That’s awesome.
Sorry to hear that KK.
I hate when I do an early-morning vet drop-off, because I come home and I keep looking around for him.
The only time I’ve driven drunk was decades ago, when I knew I had to put my first raised-from-a-pup friend down. The vet didn’t call the cops on me, and for that I will always look for aggie rings on the vets I use.
I’ve had that feeling too. We’ve had to leave our pup at the vet overnight twice. House felt so lonely without her around.
You have ghost pets too?
One of ours had to go to the vet a couple weeks back, and he ended up staying overnight. The other one kept pacing the house looking for him.
I’m sorry about your pup, Kristen. 17 is a great run. I lost my best kitten buddy last year after 15-1/2 years of companionship. Pets are great! Even when the sad times come, you have the memories of all the good ones.
Yay!
Sorry Kristen.
Vet agreed that going to a specialist is not worthwhile. He said the “episodes” could be a cardiac condition as well as neurological. They’ll draw blood, but other than that, we’re not going to do further diagnostics. Given his arthritis, and if he has a heart condition, his walkies are about to get a lot shorter.
“Tech oligarchs at Facebook and Twitter are ‘censoring’ US election coverage
Journalists are being banned from even quoting the President of the United States by tech oligarchs who are censoring US election coverage, according to Sky News Digital Editor Jack Houghton.
“The US Election was always going to be a stress test for freedom of engagement on these platforms and, predictably, the tech giants failed,” Mr Houghton said.
“I want to read more insights, not less.
“I’m sure most Americans feel the same. Even if you find Trump’s comments inflammatory, hurtful, baseless or flawed, it shouldn’t make one difference.
“You have a right to hear those comments and we have a right to report them.””
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6207612481001
“Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324613375213621248
God… the whining at being unable to access twitter is so pathetic.
Write your articles and ignore twitter’s sanctions. All twitter is doing is fucking over its own users, and frankly anyone who uses twitter to orient themselves in the world deserves the fucking over they are getting at the hands of that worthless website.
NPR pisses me off more than any of them. Their lies of omission and slanted coverage drive me nuts.
This. nothing is more annoying to me than the right bitching about social media companies acting like the propaganda arm of the DNC. Little hint: They all hate you, they’d do worse than just delete a few posts if they could, and they get off on your whining.
Except that it’s a significant problem. The MSM acts like the propaganda arm of the DNC too. Which leaves what?
Email, independent newspapers, talk radio, blogs, in person lectures, zoom calls, etc.
It’s a serious problem with a simple solution. If social media is politically biased, then let them turn into the echo chambers they so desperately want to be by not giving them your business. The problem isnt that they’re biased platforms. it’s that they’re biased platforms that too many on the right depend on for entertainment and communication.
“Email, independent newspapers, talk radio, blogs, in person lectures, zoom calls, etc.”
Putting aside that those are lesser and somewhat outdated technologies, that leaves two problems.
Firstly, all those things still cost money, and from what we’ve seen they then just go after the payment processors.
Secondly, letting “them turn into the echo chambers” still leaves them with a massive established audience.
The other problem is that the sort of people who control Twitter are the same people who control various genuinely public institutions. They’re not showing any more respect for intellectual diversity in government agencies than they do when they’re running social media.
The belief that no one can disagree with them intellectually or morally and that therefore they’re justified in suppressing dissent is really dangerous.
The problem isn’t confined to Twitter; the Western world is suffering from a genuine sickness. Virtually everywhere that isn’t subject to a public vote is controlled by people who think those who seriously disagree are stupid, powerless, moribund moral cretins.
It can’t be fought by anything less than a total secession of the plebs. Retreating to less prominent media sources will just deepen the group think.
Nah, they should stay on those platforms, because now that those platforms are openly censoring them, some of the normies are starting to wake up.
My apolitical office mate went from EWWW Trump to voting for him, and she heard about the Spanberger flash drive before I told her.
Twitter putting censorship on rightwing tweets is the worst possible thing they could have done.
In the last few days, Twitter has hid about half of the President’s tweets. Including a video of a his speech yesterday.
Trump isn’t allowed to block people, but Twitter is allowed to selectively block his tweets.
Principals not principles.
[insert hyperbolic allusion to politically motivated violence]
Governor Gretchen Whitmer says no employee should be working in-person if their job can be done remotely.
During a press conference, the governor announced that next week the Michigan Occupational Safety and Health Administration (MIOSHA) will issue an order, forcing companies to have remote work plans.
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“We have models that are showing if we don’t do anything else if we don’t change our behaviors we could be seeing up to 100 deaths a day by the end of December,” said Khaldun.
“No Michigander should be worried about catching this virus at work,” said Gov. Whitmer.
Totally within the realm of her Constitutional powers, under the “I know what’s best for you” clause.
In fact, no one should ever be allowed to leave their homes, ever, for any reason.
The other day I posted a picture of my neighborhood large gator from last year, Here is an updated photo from yesterday.
Crunchy 2020
I’m surprised animal control has pulled him yet. Here if they get to a certain size they are removed. I assume harvested for skin/meat.
7 ft supposedly is the limit, I think he is getting to that.
They move them to Lake Moultrie.
There is limited hunting, you have to win a lottery to get a license.
Infowars interviewed a former intelligence guy claim this is a massive sting operation involving DHS to entrap the DNC.
https://banned.video/watch?id=5fa480cc65f2d419a08b54e2
Why can’t 2020 end quicker?
Pray that Alex Jones is right this time. The alternative is going to be far worse.
I know.
There’s too much smoke. It’s either they’re being shrill or it’s true. I’m going with the latter. There was fraud. i say Trump takes Hilary’s advice and doesn’t concede a damn inch.
GA just flipped. None of this makes sense.
Sounds crazy to me.
Party poopers.
I will put this as a .001% probability of being true.
That might be too high.
Fuck this shit. I’m going to have some sleep and get things done. It doesn’t matter to me what happens up in the rarified air of Washington. I need to go about my business like a good little ant. Kvetching about it helps nothing.
And it sounds like Trump has a lot of options.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRlCOu4onI&t=609s
I say don’t concede. Fuck it. Don’t do like Nixon did after 1960 and not investigate those 100k votes that tipped in favour of JFK so as to not plunge the country into Constitutional crisis. But this is crazy if it’s all true and has to be dealt with. Kill a commie for mommy. That’s the only way to deal with this.
Where’s Tony Montana when you need him
Like any good Marxist, Bernie is always more than willing to take a knife to the back if it’s good for the party.
It is a manifestation of their deep and abiding love.
Where is the shooting war starting? I have nothing to lose.
lol
I won’t die for politics but I’ll fight for my natural rights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk
Damn, Tonio. You don’t know me at all. I loathe that band.
Its not going to start. Biden is going to be given the win. Some on the right will clamor about fraud. The msm and techs will shut it down, and nothing else will happen.
I know. I’m just full of impotent rage at this fraud happening in front of our eyes and nobody cares because the bad man is gone.
It’s going to be an E.O. extravaganza, taking away our rights one at a time and nobody will care.
Oh, plenty will happen.
Nothing good, but plenty.
I keep seeing this said. And things keep not happening. Ill believe it when I see it.
I wish that I shared your optimism, Muppet. I too hope that he fights this bullshit to the bitter, broken-fingernail clinging end. The evil party can’t get away with this.
It’s remarkable how the moment that Biden takes the lead always comes in the middle of the night.
Biden now ahead in PA – as if there was ever any doubt that they’d find enough votes.
I mean Joe was pulling 80%+ of those…even though the rest of the voting was 40-65% depending on area.
Biden was down almost 14 percentage points in PA with an estimated 75% of the vote in. That certainly doesn’t _look_ good regardless.
Truth be told, any areas where one candidate gets 80%+ of the votes kinda stinks. Most polls tend to have a 20% rate of “goof” votes regardless of the available options.
Supremes have to nip this in the bud or your Republic is done.
That ship sailed many years ago.
^^
I have avoided, as much as possible, paying attention to the nuts nd bolts of this “election” fiasco. But- do I understand correctly? At the end of business on election day, Trump had a commanding lead, which has since been whittled away by “votes” cast by mail. Because all of those “votes” were for Biden, and none for the Cartoon Villain.
Sounds legit.
Right thinkers believe it is so.
“Downcast Trump makes baseless election fraud claims in White House address”
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1324506154148515842
https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/trump-to-speak-from-white-house-as-vote-count-leans-toward-biden/
Im ok now–if they wind up winning the senate after all is said and done, there will be no controlling my tits.
That too will change..I suspect some R gains will disappear in a week with more votes.
Their “control” relies on Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins.
Get ready for Sweeping Bipartisan Compromises.
“Joe Biden has taken a lead in his native Pennsylvania by 5,587 votes, where he has climbed back after trailing by more than 600,000 votes in the crucial swing state.
The Democratic candidate’s vote percentage in the Keystone State rallied more than two days after polls closed Tuesday evening, shooting up because of mail-in ballots that have heavily favored the former veep.”
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/biden-takes-lead-in-pennsylvania/
He had to take about 80% of those mail-in votes. That’s absurd and beyond belief.
How could it be absurd when the exact same thing happened with Spanberger? It’s quite common, really
This summarizes the fraud perfectly. What’s the probability of Biden, compared to Hillary, underperforming in all metro areas except in four that happen to be in swing states?
Not so sure about that, unless he’s cutting off at some point like the top ten areas.
https://twitter.com/horvick/status/1324062600695484416?s=20
Even doing better than Obama in several counties
https://twitter.com/horvick/status/1324394430267191296?s=20
LOL of course
Lmao, like Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee?
Ah, yes. Bastions of the new enlightenment.
More aware that they just voted for Joe in many cases? Gotcha.
Even doing better than Obama in several counties
And that’s why I don’t believe this shit for a second – Obama was fucking ADORED by a lot people. No one adores Joe Biden.
Well, little kids like his leg hair.
He was adored by some, sure. But that doesn’t necessarily translate to people turning out. Particularly if they feel he’s already going to win biggly. Add to that some souring by Obama’s second term.
If these swing states were Muslim, Bush would have invaded them to restore democracy.
That’s absurd and beyond belief.
SCIENCE!
National Divorce now.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/colorado-passes-resolution-that-awards-electoral-votes-to-popular-vote-winner/
I think we will see a serious effort to abolish the electoral college.
It will all be under the radar like Colorado. Dems dont see the Continuation as a governing document and thus does not need to be amended.
That would probably be marginally better than what Colorado did. The CO plan leaves the EC in place but subverts CO’s EC votes to the national popular vote. Which, as people here have noted is always skewed as long as the EC exists.
This could end up backfiring on them, badlu. There are probably a healty plurality of conservatives that don’t bother vote on the because team blue has a stanglehold on state and national elections. If they were moblized they wouldn’t tip the state but could push the vote tally over team blue. There would be nothing funnier than seeing these states have to give thier EC votes to a party their state voted against.
I don’t see why Dems should be scared of doing anything when they know they can game the election.
https://www.pennlive.com/coronavirus/2020/11/nj-close-to-ordering-new-coronavirus-restrictions-as-cases-surge-governor.html
The lockdowns and mask bullshit will be with us for at least one more year.
As I’ve said before, it will be 19 years in December since Richard Reid tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb and we’re still forced to take our shoes off at the airport. Shit’s going to be permanent unless and until for some reason it becomes a hindrance to those in charge.
Oh yay! There’s going to be doing something!
Right? The way they convey that sounds like the people of NJ are asking for it. The time of heavy-handed government is upon us (has been for some time…but a bit more open now)
Still wont call Alaska (the media) but will call PA and crown BidenhertimeHarris. At least we haveba divided Government (for now…who knows how those turn out in 3 weeks of counting).
I wish I shared your optimism Banjos. With the almost entirety of the corporate media and Big Tech firmly in the Dems camp the voter fraud is going to be swept under the rug, as much as Trump is going to not go quietly and fight it to the end. We are on our way to becoming an American version of China. And speaking of China, they have gotten us to do exactly what they wanted with the lockdowns, the electoral mess and now they will get their preferred President. Team Blue gets their puppet. And if Georgia doesn’t control their voter fraud then there will be two Dem Senators winning in a couple months. Then the ass raping can really commence.
Add one more reason to the list of why I don’t vote.
Yep and I’m joining the club. Fuck that shit, I’m done.
Yeah this was my last time.
I’m thinking about giving it up too (at least for presidential elections) and devote my political energy to secessionist movements instead.
Same here. NV enjoys a “none of these candidates” for all Federal Offices. That is my new goal. I am going to sing that high and wide that people need to exercise it more.
They do? I have long desired a Monty Brewster rule for all political offices. If “none of the above” wins, then another election is held. Preferably none of the candidates who lost the first one can run in that following cycle as they were already rejected. That would really make voting a whole lot more meaningful and fun.
Yes..so we can’t write in a vote, but can say we dont like elany of them.
It would be interesting to see how the State would handle their electors if the majority of people said none of the above though.
My guess, who cares we will tell our electors to vote how ever the makeup of our Congress is.
I’m going to TRY and convince people to be less invested in politics. I’ve posted his from TOS before, but it’s a good read:
https://reason.com/2020/10/05/political-ignorance-is-bliss/
I would be less invested in politics if it were less invested in me.
Yeah, I agree but I wonder/hope there is a little bit of a chicken & egg thing. Convince people to invest less in politics which gives politicians and their allies less leverage? Probably not, I guess. TBH though, I think more of the mental well-being of a lot of my friends – on both sides of the aisle.
Nailed it.
Add me to the list. America is broken, done, finis. Not sure what to call this new nation-state, but it shouldn’t get to keep the old brand, tarnished as it was.
Forget the fraud. A nation that would elect an obviously incapable and declining man, who is heavily, heavily compromised with our overseas opponents, has a garbage government that was put in place by a broken society.
This place is so cheerful.
Hell, anybody with half a brain knew they were voting for Harris anyway – which is even worse.
I decided last minute to go as an afternoon break from the office. I did not feel good when I walked out and I was on the opposite side of every vote except for one.
I should have just taken a walk instead.
I was leaning to not voting and I thought pistoffnick’s post last week convinced me completely. But, I was up early Tuesday and decided to vote. I left half the ballot blank and of the candidates and issues I voted for all except one lost. And the one that won passed 70/30 so I didn’t need to vote anyway. AND, I felt dirty when I got home.
So, unless there’s someone or something I feel passionately about, I may be done to.
What I don’t get is that Trump rightly saw election fraud via mail in ballots coming and did little to address it on the ground. He should have had paid poll watchers in contested areas, not retired volunteers who meekly left when they were tossed out, and a legal team ready to go that sued to stop counts when that happened. It’s a lot easier to keep a fraudulent ballot from being counted in the first place than getting tons of them tossed out.
I just don’t understand how how he and Giuliani, who had to deal with the freaking mafia on a regular basis, got caught so flat footed. The Dems cheated on an industrial scale but Trump et al royally fucked up.
Unless they were escorted by armed Federal Marshals, it wouldn’t have changed a thing.
They aren’t even trying to hide the fraud, they just know that nobody is going to do anything about. That’s where we are.
One idea I have that could explain how this worked: The media and team blue basically created Al Qaeda like cells. They didn’t need guidance from on top because they just knew Trump was Hitler. It’s hydra at this point.
There had to have been either communication or central planning. They simultaneously shut down their counting at exactly the same time on election night – literally 30 minutes before people were about to start calling the race for Trump.
Maybe on a limited basis but a grand national conspiracy would be hard to keep quiet. Then again, as you say, maybe they just don’t give a shit because they know they won’t get called on it.
Your second sentence – there will be no consequences. They just openly rigged a Presidential election.
Not necessarily – it just requires a Big Tech companies that will deplatform anyone who tries to speak about it and a news media that will smear them as crazy racist conspiracy theorists who are “dangerous to our democracy”.
So….a group chat? It’s 2020. You just need the four shot callers in those four states to be on a group text with whoever the big boss is.
So basic guerrilla warfare tactics. Highly decentralized and autonomous but know the goal. If caught, has no connection to the top and can be isolated as a one-off incident.
Hey, it works. Vote counting has always been ultimately based on the honor system to a degree.
Yep, a good underling doesn’t need to be told what to do and will act independently. This isn’t a national centralized fraud being perpetuated here.
I think you’re right. Think of any lefties you know on social media. Given the chance to do *something* to stop Trump, I can’t imagine they’d hold back and wait for instructions from on high.
Antifa is an idea.
We have the most sophisticated and inclusive fraud machine
When all the votes are counted we will win
On and on
Great now I am back to the anger stage
Yep, if I genuinely believed I was fighting against Hitler, I’d do literally anything. I’d lie, cheat, steal, and murder if it was directed against Hitler.
College student in Madison Wisconsin receives 7 mailin ballots at her address, one for all the people who have registered there over the years and never been purged from the rolls. Fighting back against LITERALLY HITLER just requires you to fill out the ballot seven times and mail it back. Takes five minutes. No risk to you. Bask in the good vibes all day.
I think it’s more likely that there are lots of localised cases of fraud, a huge amount of incompetence, and some tremendous stupidity from the likes of the PA AG, but Biden has actually narrowly won. Why would the people who brought you the Iowa Caucus this year have the ability to run a fraud on the level required?
That’s what I meant by “they” as in it would be your average schmucks working in the polls doing it of their own accord. We’ll never know who would have won a fair election.
“but Biden has actually narrowly won”
I think this is correct. Trump was probably going to win a fairly comfortable re-election until covid.* That upset the apple cart and he did not handle it particularly well. The Dems were able to say “we would have done a better job” which is both unprovable AND unfalsifiable. Plus, they made what turned out to be a smart decision: run “good ol’ working-class Joe” a white male which, I think, drew back enough of those Democrat men who couldn’t stand Hilary.
* I don’t think covid was a planned conspiracy. It just came along at the right time for the Democrats.
I don’t think covid was a planned conspiracy. It just came along at the right time for the Democrats.
Indeed, much as everyone who calls Trump a murderer never bothers to look outside the U.S., neither does anyone who thinks it was a conspiracy. This thing isn’t limited to the U.S. by any stretch, whether you measure in terms of cases, deaths, reaction, etc.
Comparing the Iowa Democratic Party and the Philadelphia Democratic Party is like comparing a housecat and a tiger.
Fair – I’m being an ignorant foreigner there.
Yeh. The DNC have been plotting since the spring with all this mail-in stuff and managed to get it legalized. Why the GOP allowed it to happen makes their fight now all the more difficult. It could have been avoided. Not sure I’m buying all this DHS sting operation. It’s not crazy and is possible but why that when it could have been stopped way before this took place? Unless, the plan was to let them do all this all along explicitly to catch them in the act as a payback for Russia and impeachment?
Or maybe Occam’s Razor could be invoked and accept there was low level fraud and they were caught sleeping at the switch and now need to go nuclear.
The idea that this is a setup to trap people into incriminating themselves is just Q Anon’s last gasp.
‘Mornin Banjos
Trump ends up losing, he’ll be the most hilarious bomb thrower and completely unleashed.
He’ll be a deplatformed nothing.
In a Thursday caucus call, several Democrats reportedly shared their concerns about the election results in the House, as Democrats did not expand their majority, losing many seats polls showed Democrats winning. Virginia Democratic Rep. Abigail Spanberger was reportedly the most vocal, saying Democrats should never say the word socialism again and that she almost lost her race because of the Defund the police movement.
Schadenfreude.
An article published in the International Journal of Bipolar Disorders on Monday puts forward the theory that Dutch painter Vincent van Gogh’s poor mental health and eventual suicide were likely caused not by syphilis or schizophrenia — previously proposed explanations — but alcohol withdrawal paired with malnutrition.
So, what you’re saying is, don’t give up drinking?
#cathynewmanquestions
Gab is growing leaps and bounds. He’ll be on places like that literally building an army.
Gab will have their registration pulled and they’ll have to go to the dark web with The Daily Stormer and the pedos.
How dare you! The pedos from Gab are far better people than the Daily Stormer!
Never give up drinking unless your pancreas tells you so and then only in moderation.
He’ll be a deplatformed nothing.
At least we’ll get to hear him on Rogan.
Unless they deplatform Rogan.
Trump should start his own media company.
Any bets that Alaska flips magically? They need anothet Red State to cement their mandate they will claim. I can’t think of any other reason on why it hasn’t been called….4 days later.
Get ready for Sweeping Bipartisan Compromises.
Ow, my ass!
Legit chuckle
I saw only 1 person on news sites about the large batches of votes Biden was reaping and they asked the more important question..”did any of those mail-in ballots have 3rd party votes on them or they were all for Trump or Biden?”
Solid question I think that won’t be answered or even matter.
That was a fart in a wind storm.
Of course it is…but every late mail-in ballot, hundreds of thousands of them, and not even 1% had some sort of other vote…just Biden or Trump? Maybe they did and people are being hyperbolic with 100% for Biden!
🙁 My lunch ended up on the floor instead of the plate.
Stop Hyperbolating! What is is it with you big, well nourished men that ends up wasting food-stuff? Imma call the Commissar!
Barfman to aisle Unciv’s.
Well… I’m guessing it’s been more than five seconds at this point.
This is why all the larpers in the know wear plate carriers.
Trump lost. While the ballot counting was a shit show and mail in ballots should be banned. I’d bet money there isn’t enough fraud occuring to give the election to Biden. Besides, this is a good thing as long as the Republicans hold on to the senate. People are going to witness 4 years of Biden Harris. Also Trump is probably going to unload on Biden over the next few months, hoping more things come to light. The Republicans are starting to see that Trump’s platform works it just needs a better spokesperson to win over the moderates. I could see a Nicki Haley Dan Crenshaw ticket in 4 years.
*Nikki Haley
Both Haley and Crenshaw are neocon scum.
Great red flag laws, and other crap, why not have two democratic parties.
Besides, this is a good thing as long as the Republicans hold on to the senate.
We might all get another $1,200.
Haley is a neocon and Crenshaw is neocon lite and both are terrible.
Noem/Desantis 24
?
That’s my preferred ticket. In 2024 the lockdowns will hopefully be long in the rear view, but Florida is the coming thing in American politics. You’re looking at the same dynamic that was Reagan’s California or what Texas still is before it gets Californiacated. It’s thriving, multiracial, dynamic, with small and transparent government.
DeSantis would be a very good President IMO.
If the Pubs were smart they’d start working towards that now. But of course, they aren’t.
All their Very Good Friends in the media will be telling them that No Serious Person supports DeSantis, and that Kristi Noem is from a tiny state and has no appeal.
If I had to put my money on one now, I’d say someone at state level. The pretenders in DC are just that.
Looking less likely by the minute. The Dems are not going to allow an opposition for the next couple of years, they have to much to lose if the Senate starts investigating.
I’d bet money there isn’t enough fraud occuring to give the election to Biden.
We’ll never know, but my gut says the opposite.
as long as the Republicans hold on to the senate
That might not be as long as you think.
Trump is probably going to unload on Biden over the next few months
Won’t move the needle if he does. The DemOp Media and their new Tech Lord allies proved with the Hunter Biden story that they control the information flow enough that no matter what comes out that hurts the Dems, it can be buried enough to not matter.
I could see a Nicki Haley Dan Crenshaw ticket in 4 years.
I’m sure after the last votes trickle in sometime in December 2024, their concession speech will be quite gracious.
Woh sparked some anger. For the record when I say this is a good thing. I’m saying that in comparison to a Democrat controlled government. Republicans are far from perfect but I’ll take what they offer over Dems any day. And yes I think Haley and Crenshaw will adopt Trump’s platform if they want to win.
My lunch ended up on the floor instead of the plate.
Wrong gloves?
Worse. I didn’t have any gloves.
A ponderment while working my morning coffee:
There’s a real dilemma in “proving” election fraud.
On the one hand, there is pretty incontrovertible proof of “retail” fraud – individual ballots cast by dead people, non-residents, or ballots being dumped by the side of the road, maybve even postal supervisors backdating late mailed ballots. But that is easily dismissed as a mere handful of votes, not enough to matter or swing an election.
On the other, there are big picture patterns that are suggestive, perhaps highly suggestive of wholesale fraud – districts with more votes than registered voters, districts that go some implausible percentage for one candidate, ballots arriving suspiciously late to counting centers, observers being thrown out, late counted votes being counted and breaking one way until the previously trailing candidate wins, counting being mysteriously stopped on election night, etc. But you can’t tie those patterns to specific votes or even a specific number of votes that don’t pass muster. They aren’t “proof” of fraud that allows an identifiable category and precise number of votes to be disregarded.
So, I just don’t see any way that the current laughable, embarrassing, process doesn’t play out to its predictable end of a Biden/Harris administration. Exactly what is there for the courts to do? What remedy can they craft? Throw out a few obviously bad ballots – not enough to matter? Throw out hundreds of thousands or millions of ballots which undoubtedly include some valid votes?
Yeah, that’s what I think. You’re not putting this toothpaste back in the tubes. They let all the safeguards fall one by one in the name of “empowering” voters. Inevitable conclusion.
The courts can’t do shit.
Any reform has to come at the state level and the voters have to demand it (or else) or they’re not going to do it.
The functional corruption in the voting process is at the county/city level. The states just allow it to happen when it suits them.
If you have time, this interview about the Battle of Athens (Tennessee) was excellent. Timing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmm_rNsFJ4
This exactly.
The states just allow it to happen when it suits them.
My biggest gripe with the idiot Republicans who control the AZ government (for now) is that they fell hook, line and sinker for mail-in voting and ballot harvesting. The state government could have shut it down at any time, even after it was obvious that the Republicans had put in place a voting system that seriously disadvantaged them. But they didn’t. I’m pretty confident we’ve seen our last Republican governor, not that that’s any great loss, unless the Republican controlled state government makes major election reforms. Which I haven’t heard a peep about, so I doubt its coming.
Looks like the Repubs held the state senate, and likely the state house – results for house races aren’t jumping out at me. We have an “independent” redistricting commission, so who knows if the redistricting next year will change much. However, the urbanization of AZ will move more and more of the districts into urban areas where Dems win, at least until some great realignment happens. I suspect full Dem control of AZ is still some years out.
I had thought AZ would be where I lived until I died, but that’s gotten a lot less likely. I suspect much mental energy will be spent over the next couple of years on exit strategies.
Mail in balloting is a symptom, not the problem. The real problem is that Arizona, and much of the country, is continuing to shift leftward demographically. As long as the left is in control of indoctrination and the media along with other institutions, that won’t change. Leftism is a siren song for many and it will be hard to give up.
As long as the left is in control of indoctrination and the media along with other institutions, that won’t change.
Oh, I agree. Even wrote a post about it.
And the follow-up post has aged pretty well. Off in specifics, but I think its generally on target.
Well sure. They are evil, not stupid. Hell, when I was a wee shaver we sang the Anthem every day and said the Lord’s Prayer. There is no reason that there might not be a sea change coming. “All Hail Gaia! Worthy of Her Name!”
But you can’t tie those patterns to specific votes or even a specific number of votes that don’t pass muster. They aren’t “proof” of fraud that allows an identifiable category and precise number of votes to be disregarded.
Disparate impact analysis says “hold my beer”.
On to your larger point, I think that’s right. We’ll be left with half of the electorate or less (certainly no where near half the country) that thinks the election was stolen. Eight years of Bush/Cheney says “hah hah”. And nothing else happens, other the continued slide.
Disparate impact analysis
Apples and oranges. Disparate impact analysis is used to extract money from businesses to pay to classes of people or to impose “compliance plans”. I don’t see how it applies to election results.
I mean the people pushing disparate analysis are quite quiet about the current election statistics.
If it can get dragged along in the courts long enough, after December 14 or some such, doesn’t go to delegates appointed by the state houses?
The courts can say that any state with too many irregularities has to redo its election. The EC does not meet until 14 December and the Title 3 safe harbor is 8 December. Plenty of states carried out their electoral processes efficiently and there’s no reason a state couldn’t conduct and conclude an election, with mail-in ballots, between now and then. Sure, a bunch of people are going to have to do actual work close to Thanksgiving which they’re not accustomed to, but that’s the price they’d have to pay for fucking up the initial run.
Will the courts do this? I’d say it’s very unlikely. They don’t actually believe in our system, but they very strongly believe in maintaining appearances.
districts with more votes than registered voters
Is there one you can name, specifically?
https://conservativedailypost.com/milwaukee-wards-report-more-votes-than-registered-voters-in-the-city/
While its being explained away with same day registration, nobody has validated that yet that I have seen. And it should be completely obvious how many same day registrations there were. Of courfse, even that begs the question of how many of what must be an extraordinary number of same-day registrations were actually valid.
Also, wasn’t the big Biden bloc of votes from mail-in/absentee? How exactly do you get those from same-day registrations?
According to data
With no link to any data. Color me very fucking skeptical when you won’t show your work.
Fair enough.
At most, I think this election just advanced the leftist takeover by 4 years, so I’m working on calming my tits about it.
As I said above, there is a huge gap between individual ballots proven to be illegal, and large patterns for which Occam’s Razor says “fraud”. Of course the explanation that any one person (including me) lands on for those patterns is an exercise in confirmation bias. You look for proof that the actual voting exceeded voter registrations, I take the explanation that it was due to same-day registration as an admission that it did and ask for proof that there were that many same-day registrations and that they were valid.
To me, a spike in same day registrations is even more unlikely when the Dems had a very weak ground game, which is what I would expect to get unregistered voters to the polls on election day. But, again, its all suggestive, there is no proof. And likely no proof-proof is even available, absent some fantasy where we go door to door and ask thousands of people what they actually did on election day.
There is also the reported turnout, which seems quite implausible to me. Not impossible ,so no “proof”, but extraordinarily unlikely and begging for an explanation that is not forthcoming, especially in the absence of a ground game.
Stephen Colbert is a pathetic person
Colbert is a damned fool.
Not to pile on, but he’s a smarmy asshole.
Any suggestions on good music for a Friday? I’m burnt out of my same ol’ same ol’. I can’t do audiobooks/podcasts because I lose focus on work. Music suggestions, ¿por favor?
Any suggestions on good music for a Friday? I’m burnt out of my same ol’ same ol’. I can’t do audiobooks/podcasts because I lose focus on work. Music suggestions, ¿por favor?
Vulfpeck is fine. 70’s era funk but mostly really happy. Enjoy!
I’m enjoying Vulfpeck, thus far. Thanks for the suggestion, Festus!
Depends on how your tastes run. If you like Punk/Ska/Rockabilly/etc, I can throw some suggestions.
Cover bands can be fun.
Halocene
Or go classy: Robyn Adele Anderson
I thought you were talking about Classy cover bands. Not non-classy cover bands.
Apparently I’m still double posting…
But thank you. I’ll check out Vulfpeck, Halocene, and RAA.
Neph, I am pretty wide open as far as taste goes. I’m not much of a hip-hop or rap guy (though I do like the Beastie Boys), nor am I much of a contemporary country guy. I’ll take any suggestions and give them a try.
I generally just go through Pandora, or pull up Youtube and find a decent mix, but some to base it off of:
Punk:
The Interrupters
Sick of it All
NOFX
Rancid
Psychobilly:
The Horrorpops
Nekromantix
Kitty in a Casket
Based on likes/dislikes from there, I can go deeper.
Heh, I haven’t listened to Sick of it All in a long time. Too long.
Other punk suggestions: the Misfits (of course), Minutemen, X, Bad Brains, Screeching Weasel, Fear, Circle Jerks
Thanks Gents. I’ve made a list and will start looking into them.
Not a problem at all… some more for you:
Skoidats (Oi punk)
Amazing Royal Crowns (Rockabilly, later renamed the Amazing Crowns due to a WB lawsuit)
Johnny Socko (Party third wave ska band)
King Django (Jewish reggae)
Pilfers (Heavy third wave ska band)
The Slackers (Mellow third wave ska band)
The Prodigals (Irish punk band closer to the Pogues then Dropkick Murphys)
Throw in the VooDoo Glowskulls and the Blue Meanies!
Great list btw.
Oh, and Rev Horton Heat. Put him near the top of the list. Awesome stuff.
I was trying to stay to the more less known bands. I don’t think you could start a mix of anything rockabilly/psychobilly without the Rev, the Straycats, and Social Distortion showing up just because. 🙂
Rockabilly isn’t really my thing, but I do love the Rev and Social Distortion, although my listening to SD began when they were still a straight punk band, before Mike Ness’ foray into rockabilly.
Here’s some local TX flavor:
Brutal Juice
Pump’n Ethyl (Frontman kicked the crap out of Kurt Cobain)
Urine Trouble
Riot Squad (not the swedish one)
The Staggers (not the british one)
Dog Company
Nervebreakers (sometimes called Dallas’ first punk band. Opened for the Sex Pistols at Longhorn Ballroom, nearly beat up Sid Vicious)
I’m seeing a lot of broken freedom fighters on this thread. I am disappoint.
*offers Festus a glass of bourbon*
I’m not broken. I’m patient and hopeful. No one’s taking that away from me.
I’m not conceding unless the President does.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077975/mediaviewer/rm2164542976
Not broken. Just re-evaluating my priorities. Although I disconnected somewhat from the palace intrigue of DC, I am more invested in politics than I should be. Need to recalibrate.
Not broken Festus. Frustrated but not broken.
Broken? No. Depressed to be reaching a conclusion that there will either be violence or submission to leftist scum? Yes.
I would not say not having any faith in a broken system is “giving up”. The freedom fighting starts with the actual fighting. I still hope it doesn’t come to that.
I don’t think people giving up on voting are “broken”.
Voting is a sucker’s game. What do you call people who keep doing the same worthless, ineffective thing over and over again expecting a different result?
The nation state is our enemy. It doesn’t care what we want. It exists solely so that its officers can exploit us. The purpose of voting is to groom you so that you don’t put up too much of a struggle when it touches you in the no-no place.
People who recognize that voting is useless are coming to a good realization; often a critical component of figuring out how to solve a problem is recognizing the approaches that are useless so that you don’t waste your time focusing on them.
A large influential segment of the establishmentarian mandarinate and their media sycophants have spent the past four years doing everything they could to undermine Trump’s initiatives while proclaiming his illegitimacy because they believe no one with nongovernmental experience and credentials should possibly be allowed to govern the country, because capitalism and market based thinking are poisonous. If they have managed to get their way, we’re doomed.
It’s not even that deep. Donald Trump is Icky! That’s it, that’s all, that’s everything.
They’ve managed to get their way. We are doomed.
We survived FDR. Next to him, Biden and Harris are pikers.
FDR lacked the tools today’s governments have.
Such as?
He confiscated all privately held gold, created nationwide work programs, essentially had the state take over the economy for wartime production, set in motion the project to build an atomic bomb, had complete dominance of all 3 branches of government, dictated what every newspaper, radio station, and television channel couldn’t say, won 4 terms as President, and commanded a literal army that rivaled everything this country has mustered either before or since.
The only thing he didn’t that a modern government does is electronic computers.
“The only thing he didn’t that a modern government does is electronic computers.”
I mean, yeah that’s what I am getting at.
Every single gun, part, and magazine that was purchased online over the past four years is known to Big Tech. The majority of the country carries a microphone around in their pocket.
There is an intersection of legal authority and technical ability to assert that authority. The word of Xerxes, king of kings, was law, but if he or his agent wasn’t physically present to enforce it, it didn’t exist.
Plus all that stuff never went away. The Kamala Administration doesn’t need to assert the authority to use a drone strike on an American citizen, she already has it.
I think technology gives them the appearance of power rather than actual power. It may take another generation for people to really figure out the consequences and how to game it, but as it stands it gives a false sense of perception. Yeah, you do have a microphone in your pocket all the time. At least, until you shove it in the glove compartment and go for a hike, or you leave it on your bedroom dresser before going to work. The difference between giving a spy an accurate picture, an inaccurate picture, and an intentionally misleading picture is not that great.
Machine tools and production are far more widely distributed now, so that helps.
It’s not Biden and Harris that are the problem.
It’s the alliance between the DNC, a significant portion of the GOP, and the professional civil service.
The administrative state rules us now. We go to war when they want to go to war. We print money when they want more money. We regulate what they want regulated. We arrest and prosecute those that get in their way.
Biden/Harris are simply mouthpieces for the nomenklatura and will be allowed to continue to sell our policy, foreign and domestic, to the highest bidder so long as it doesn’t interfere with what the nomenklatura wants.
I read a book way back in the 70s that said when the US government is overthrown, it will come from a regulatory agency with the authority to write rules that carry the weight of law without any court supervision.
It took 40+ years, but we are basically at that threshold.
Yeah the Establishment GOP types on Twitter are all “YAY GRIDLOCK!!!!” like Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins are going to stand firm against some leftist agenda.
First thing up will be a blue state bailout. Florida and Texas will have to send billions to the noble public servants in IL, NJ, NY, and CT.
It’s the alliance between the DNC, a significant portion of the GOP, and the professional civil service.
Are we talking about the situation today or as it was during the Eisenhower administration?
Did the situation ever change?
If so, then more in degree than kind, I think.
“mandarinate”
Is that when you soak something is soy sauce?
Well, looks like there’s going to be at least some pushback (at the level of annoying the feds). Free Ohio Now (really full on pro-Trump now) sent out an e-mail asking for people to call into the FBI and DOJ to DEMAND they investigate the nearby states.
Disparate impact analysis says “hold my beer”.
Nice try. That sort of analysis isn’t available to just anybody.
The exit polls indicate that Trump increased support from blue collar workers; black; hispanics; and women. Republicans picked up seats in the US house, and I think they picked up seats in many state legislatures.
So it is statistically impossible for Trump to pick up more voters from traditionally democratic voting blocks and then lose the election to Biden.
Of course, this outcome was telegraphed by the media weeks ago as they explained that a red mirage on election day would be overcome by blue-leaning mail-in/absentee ballots that would be counted after election day.
The only question at this point is what SCOTUS is going to do.
They’re going to bend the knee to the new permanent majority.
Roberts is a coward.
My prediction from a week or so ago was that SCOTUS goes 5-4 (Roberts on the wrong side) to keep Trump in office.
I have less confidence in that outcome now than I did a week ago.
I’m just not seeing a court remedy for this. In FL, it was easy for them to just stop the endless recounting. This time, the counting will be done before the courts get our of bed, and I just don’t see them reaching inside the “official” results to overturn them.
They did in 1876.
A Michigan recount would go to Trump because the questionable precincts would get tossed out. But the evidence in Philly has been systematically destroyed.
A ruling for re-vote in those states is the only hope.
For a reason.
SCOTUS will rule for the safety of the nation, and to usher in healing, they cannot interfere with the will of the people and the results stand.
So it is statistically impossible for Trump to pick up more voters from traditionally democratic voting blocks and then lose the election to Biden.
Oh c’mon. Trump never had that much control/influence over the whole party. McConnell will drop him in a heartbeat to save his own ass.
And, anecdotally only, I know of people that were dyed-in-the-wool Rs who voted R for House, R for Senate, and Biden.
To which I meant to add: if you get enough of those people, then it explains why some House districts went for the R rep but Biden for president. A good experimental illustration of that is NE-2.
having the cities harvest a ton of votes explains the disparity as well.
So the Dems in Detroit created a bunch of votes for Biden, without bothering to add votes to Tlaib or others. Is that how it works?
To be fair one case of fraud is much easier to hide then multiple. Also if the mainline GOP believe they are in danger, they would circle the wagons
Did they *need* to add votes for Tlaib? It’s not as if she were in any danger of losing.
So, in a precinct, I’m going to drop in all of these ballots with ONLY Biden votes. Is that how it works?
“So, in a precinct, I’m going to drop in all of these ballots with ONLY Biden votes. Is that how it works?”
I mean, in VA CD 1 which is an R+8 district 275,000 people voted for Biden, putting him ahead of Trump for the CD. Trump got 257,000.
Rob Wittman got the same 257,000 Trump got, which put him over the Dem who got 182,000. So that means that over 90,000 people in CD-1 wanted to SAVE THE SOUL OF THE NATION or whatever bullshit but weren’t motivated to vote Dem downballot. Or, for that matter, vote Republican or write in downballot. They just showed up, voted for Kindly Uncle Joe in an R+8 district and didn’t fill in any other races.
If the word went out in DC “we’re getting rid of Trump, and if you stay quiet and play the game, we’ll let you run your races fair and square.” then the GOP establishment would probably play along. McConnell got his judges, he’s ready to go back to Chamber of Commerce Republicanism.
It fucking stinks man. I don’t have all the answers, but you lived through the Obama years. Obama I could not stand but he was genuinely popular and well liked. People actually wore his shirts, his hats, flew his flags and put his stickers on their cars.
Now you’re telling me more people voted for Biden? I don’t believe that.
The issue with that is that the opposite is true: there are also Trump Democrats who might split their ballot the other way. My uncle is a union member who never voted Republican in his life before Trump.
There’s also people who were skeptical of Trump in 2016 because he was a New York liberal who were enthused to vote for him now.
The whole “Biden Republican” thing was a media creation, and I think it was a media creation for this exact purpose: to explain the enormous “turnout” for Biden.
I think Biden’s legitimate votes are about the same number as Hillary’s, adjusted for population growth. I’m sorry, I live in a blue area of a blue state, and I remember Obamamania in 2008 and I remember Obama in 2012 which was slightly less popular. I don’t see that enthusiasm, that excitement. I don’t see tshirts and hats and yard signs and bumper stickers.
But somehow hes got more total votes than Barack Obama did? Come on man, that’s malarkey.
Huh?
Fuck it, I’m actually going to bed now and I hope that some of you moanin’ Joans find something to brighten your day. Good Day!
Good night! 🙂
Still waiting for a plausible non-fraud explanation why vote counts kept stopping and restarting
Common core math?
“So the whole “progressivism is bad” argument just doesn’t have any compelling evidence that I’ve seen.
When it comes to “Defund” & “Socialism” attacks, people need to realize these are racial resentment attacks. You’re not gonna make that go away. You can make it less effective.”
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324698828944138243
CWAA
So the whole “progressivism is bad” argument just doesn’t have any compelling evidence that I’ve seen.
“Three generations of imbeciles are enough” quoth arch-progressive Oliver Wendell Holmes to uphold forcible sterilization. So too said he, “the most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic” to defend arresting and imprisoning war dissenters.
One need only look at the progressive-FBI/CIA alliance of the present day to be suspicious of their motives.
All this confusion will get the Dems and Media the ammunition to bemoan the subset of Americans that will, just like their counterparts over the past 4 years, dont accept the election.
Thry effectively created NeverBidens that they needed. They couldn’t afford the Red Team saying “damn this sucks and looks hinkey but we will start with 2022 and then 2024”
I fully expect rabid right wingers to get the full treatment that the left never got from the media about this.
Oh yes. “resistance” is suddenly going to become a Very Bad Thing again, just like the Tea Parties were.
I fully expect rabid right wingers to get the full treatment that the left never got from the media
about this.Even today you imply that the media might be somewhat even-handed. Why?
“Florida has done this: voter ID required, no same-day registration allowed, early/absentees votes counted and usually completely posted an hour or so after polls close. One of the rare instances where we could all stand to learn something from Florida Man.
There’s simply no excuse for states like PA, WI, AZ, MI, & even (yes!) CA to have vote counts so antiquated, sclerotic, and slow-moving except a lack of political will. FL proves that a truly massive population state can do it consistently and with complete confidence in outcome.”
https://twitter.com/EsotericCD/status/1324728836987170816
QFT
Of course there’s an excuse – it makes it much, much more difficult to commit widespread fraud.
I’m curious about something. Why does anyone follow Twitter. We get so many links to it here of mostly dubious quality. I really doubt the right-wing take is all that less derpy than the left-wing – so why the fascination with it?
It’s amusing to see people who disagree with you being absolute idiots? It makes you feel better about yourself if you enemies are such awful people.
In other words, indulging some not very admirable human behavior. I’m not standing at any pulpit about that, but you know, like what you masturbate to, there is stuff that should not be shared, even amongst friends.
You don’t share your spank material with your friends?? What kind of weirdo are you?
So…..how long before the Donks shove the senile asshole overboard for President Commala?
Alternate view: they don’t. They let him totter along for 3 years then he declares his health won’t allow him to serve another term and endorses Harris as his successor,
I think that’s what they do. They’ll never impeach and remove him. They won’t 25th amendment him; too embarrassing. At worst, depending on how fast he declines, he resigns for health reasons. But no matter how bad he gets, I think he stays in office until Harris is eligible for two full terms.
It’s February of 2022 that allows her to run twice, IIRC. If he goes before then his term counts as her first term. But if he lasts till then she can run in 2024 and 28.
They need her as VP for two years minimum to run here again as President for 8 years I beleive. If thats what they want.
I read somewhere that in an average year (statistics in 2018), around 7,700 people die in the US each day.
Serious question: with early, mail-in, and absentee voting, is any effort made to determine that the voters in question are still alive on the official election day?
I would be satisfied if they purged the votes from the ones that died ten years ago.
Bwahahahaha! No
[points and screeches] RAaaaaaaay-cist! Voter suppression! Count every vote.
Further, around 10,600 people are born in the US each day. This implies that approximately that number reach majority each day. I weep* for all the people who reach voting age within the week after the official election day whose votes could be counted right now!
*not weeping.
I’d worry more about the cold dead casting votes than people who were alive when they lawfully voted but later died. If you drop dead in the parking lot after voting person but before your precinct is tabulated, should your vote not be counted?
Or what Scuffy said.
I am not sure what Americans are going on about but I read in the Romanian press that all fraud allegations are unfounded.
Ceausescu agrees.
Along with 117% of eligible voters.
It’s not surprising, given that Eastern Europe has never had any experience with election fraud.
The media will just not report it. Even the small stuff. They have a template that worked and will relgate it to it cannot be confirmed so we will censor and/or not even report.
Sounds conspiratorial but it isn’t. They did it a month ago. I don’t believe most of the Hunter stuff at all but the media wholecloth just sitting quiet isn’t good either.
They’ve been doing it our entire lives.
The reason why this feels painful is because they’re actually losing the fight to control discourse.
Every victory they win is a Pyrrhic one.
Agreed
As usual, the media is factual but not truthful. If you narrowly define what counts as “fraud” and what is allowed as “evidence” thereof, you can factually say “no such thing exists”.
I’ve always thought the media tell the truth & nothing but the truth*. Just not the whole truth.
*In general. Always going to be some exceptions.
Yeah, my use of words is idiosyncratic here (and not my own, the line comes from Michael Malice if not others).
Factual = they include factually correct statements, subject to their own definitions
Truthful = they actually gloss all relevant facts and put conveying information over narrative building
I’ve been watching French TV news every morning for the last 10 years and reading German newspapers every night for the last 7 years. They always repeat what the US MSM says about the US–but a day later.
Extremely good thread on voter fraud:
https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1324645783300395008
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1324645783300395008.html
The thread on refuted claims is interesting, although I think its somewhat naive at times. On the dead MI voter, for example, the fact that the voter was registered and received a ballot is glossed over with the statement that of course MI would never count that vote. Well, why did they register him and send a ballot, then? On the Repub observers who were kicked out, the assertion is made that there is a limited number allowed, and that the Repubs had that number and only excess observers were kicked out. I believe the Repubs would lie about this, but who are we relying on to say that only excess observers were kicked out?
I guess my bottom line is this:
(1) We have an absurdly insecure election system.
(2) We have massive incentives to cheat on voting, given the size and power of government.
(3) We have cities and counties under the firm control of one party, which provide a relatively safe zone for cheating.
(4) Those safe zones have generated a number of puzzling patterns and anomalies.
(5) The results from those safe zones are less than trustworthy.
(6) We will never have confirmation (to some level, which is up to each of us) of either cheating or not-cheating, and certainly no confirmation of how much.
Where does that leave me? In a fog of confirmation bias, but certainly not in a position to say that I trust results that put Biden in office.
Quite.
So last night, I sponsored two friends to join my gun club, and they were both voted in. That was pretty cool. One of them is super-new to the shooting sports/gun culture in general, which is extra cool.
People are stressing out, though. The Covid panic, the election, and ammo prices are combining and getting on people’s nerves. This is less cool.
We survived FDR. Next to him, Biden and Harris are pikers.
FDR was a superficial wound which proved fatal, in the long run. The patient succumbed to long term infection.
I think the PR blitz from the establishment over the last four years have nailed the lid on the coffin of outsiders in politics.
I never for a moment thought of Trump as a savior, but I thought as a non career “public servant” he might bring a fresh perspective. He did, and was roundly vilified for it for four long years.
This is an excellent tutorial on the institutional tendency to circle the wagons and cast out heretics.
I think structural changes are required. More election integrity, more representatives in Congress, smaller states, tighter constraints on Federal power, etc. I am doubtful that we will get short-term progress on them, but I wouldn’t rule anything out in the longer run.
I pulled a Mojeaux and got the fuck away from social media. It’s depressing to see how many of my close acquaintances are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites who would be happy to put the boot on the necks of those they disagree with. Crying that Donald Trump is destroying the integrity of the electoral process and democracy when for the past four years, they tried to pin the crime of being in cahoots with Putin.
I might be a tad bit hyperbolic but I kind of understand how shit like the Nazis and Communists seizing power happened and how their political enemies ended up gunned down or in camps. All you have you do is convince a certain amount of the populace that your opponent is a danger to you and your family and their values are unacceptable. And then you go from there. We’ve already been hearing whispers about prosecuting Trump and some of the people from his administration or that trump voters need to be held accountable.
right there with you, Ed
I am not on social media in the first place
Smart move.
I had the foresight not to join any in the first place, seeing the potential for pettiness and oversharing. Remember those annoying and boastful family Christmas newsletters? That, but every day and all day.
Same with understanding how the Cultural Revolution could happen and adults let the children rule them.
I think the Cultural Revolution is the best comparison we have to the current situation. The only difference is that the average citizen has a gun to go down in a blaze of glory if it ever gets to that point.
“Crying that Donald Trump is destroying the integrity of the electoral process ”
Yeah, that one is especially rich since most lefties were cheering Hillary when she said Biden should never concede.
I don’t think Keith Olbermann was whispering…
Olbermann dares to say what others only say among polite company.
I did the same about two years ago.
Basically, I decided that using platforms that are run by people who want people like me to either submit or die, that encourage me to publish my heretical thoughts acquaintances who were champing at the bit to hurt people like me was a bad idea.
Moreover, those platforms are incredibly useful at hoovering data to feed into the products of machine learning algorithms to predict my future behavior. Giving enemies intelligence like that is never a good idea. If they were to do anything with it, it would be at my expense.
The good news is that if you forego those platforms entirely, you become a bit of a ghost to our enemies.
I had that moment when most of my Leftist family members – who called G.W. Bush a mad dictator for the PATRIOT Act and other post 9/11 bullshit – sat there and cheered while Democrat governors took a big fat shit on the Bill of Rights under the guise of fighting the ‘Rona.
When I’m at family gatherings, I usually try to steer conversations away from politics, or just go to the bathroom and hope the subject has changed by the time I come back. But if I hear any one of them call something unconstitutional, I’m afraid I won’t be able to hold my tongue. In my opinions, if you supported lockdowns, you never get to complain about unconstitutionality ever again (unless you do some serious re-thinking about the idea of absolute rights and demonstrate that you’ve changed your views).
It’s the same for me. If I’m at a gathering I tend to stay quiet about my politics but sometimes I can’t help it if the hypocrisy is obvious and glaring.
One of the interesting things to watch has been that, for all the left hated GWB, they sure do seem to love the fruits of his administration. NoVa went solidly for GWB in 2000 and 2004 and yet, after he filled its suburbs with government workers to support the war on terror, they had turned against the GOP by 2008 and haven’t looked back since. Meanwhile the right (or most of it anyway) still looks upon GWB fondly even though he built the machine that has now been turned against them.
I’m curious about something. Why does anyone follow Twitter. We get so many links to it here of mostly dubious quality. I really doubt the right-wing take is all that less derpy than the left-wing – so why the fascination with it?
I have pretty much disciplined myself to not click on any twatter links, because I almost invariably regret it when I do.
Yep. I dumped facebook back in 2013, and never really used the twitter account I had created early on. None of that shit has any value to me whatsoever. I’m surrounded by a world full of addicts.
I left FB a couple of days ago because it was starting to sour my mood. I am too blessed to be sad about some assholes on social media being assholes.
I still use it because a lot of my friends in Oz post family news etc. which I like to keep up with.
As usual, the media is factual but not truthful. If you narrowly define what counts as “fraud” and what is allowed as “evidence” thereof, you can factually say “no such thing exists”.
Facts check out.
Who was it that was musing about a “Gulf Republic” the other day, stretching from Florida to Texas and up through the Great Plains? I think I shall have to daydream about that today to avoid thinking about how shitty the future is going to be.
I believe it was Viking1865. I really liked his breakdown as well.
It was I.
Honestly, if you proposed it right now to the legislatures asking them to vote on it and do a referendum on December 15th, I think you could get it done. Both Abbot and DeSantis have weighed in on the side of Trump on this, and I think they well understand what’s coming down the pike. You’re going to see the Democrats in VA, MI, WI, MN, and PA further lockdown their control of the electoral infrastructure. You couple that with the states they already own, you’re looking at the Dems starting at 280, and they’re already pushing NC and GA into swing status. If the Republicans let this stand, and it looks like they will have to, they are finished as a national party. The Dems just need a white male face every year to just barely pull enough moderate suburbanites and working class whites in the Midwest and then the machine goes to work and pushes them over. Then they can throw all that Big Tech and Wall Street cash into GA, NC, and soon to be AZ, and into Senate and House races.
I postulated TX, OK, AR, TN, NC, SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, and LA. LA has a Dem governor elected with a slim majority in 2019. NC has a Dem governor reelected this year by a slim majority. Republicans control their legislatures, All those states voted for Trump at least once. If there is ever going to be a viable National Divorce, I think that’s it.
The Left would never allow that because they know in their hearts that corporations and would be leaving the major blue cities in droves in order operate in a state where they don’t view the businesses or individuals as tax cattle. Their brand of socialism relies on forcing everyone to bend to their rules and conform. If I recall correctly I remember when Boeing or some major manufacturer wanted to move to one of the Carolinas and Obama put a stop on it because he felt it was unfair that they could be taking advantage of having a lower tax liability.
Of course, that looks a lot like reconstituting the Confederacy, which is another reason it would be a non-starter.
Nobody is leaving the United States without winning a war against the United States. Secession, secession never changes.
“Nobody is leaving the United States without winning a war against the United States. Secession, secession never changes.”
The earliest a war could actually get started is January 22nd, and that’s three weeks after the celebrations in the new nation. A nation which is going to be filling up pretty damn quick, IMO. I’d move there. Millions and millions of people, and they are the people you want on your side in a war.
And these people have all the guns.
Yep, and I’ll throw one more thing in there: How long would it take SpaceX to throw a Project Thor satellite in orbit.
I’m game for secession. It’s a family tradition to fight in the Florida regiment.
https://twitter.com/Vermeullarmine/status/1324754248907792388
It would be hilarious if Twitter bans Trump entirely and he ends up on some competing d-grade app that subsequently guts half of Twitter’s user base.
Trump really is the only thing that’s kept twitter viable. We, that and porn.
I really don’t think the Tech Lords would allow a competing app that gutted one of their number.
Unless, of course, one of them owned it. In which case, why expect it to be an open platform?
Including child pornography, which Bridgett Phetasy describes as rife on that platform. Censor NYP for reporting factual content, but CP is acceptable. Real classy joint.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/11/06/twitter-wont-give-trump-special-treatment-post-presidency/6181794002/
It’s funny how what used to be the norm became “special treatment”.
That Twitter account doesn’t exist.
That was fast. Was just there a couple of minutes ago.