Good morning my Glibs and Gliberinas! And what a beautiful morning it always is!
Everyone is waiting for the election results, so regardless of what happens, do the libertarian thing and use it as an excuse to buy more guns and ammo.
Dems maintain House and Republicans most likely to retain Senate.
Stocks don’t know what to do with themselves.
That’s all I got for today. I’m going to get my girls off to school and then take a nap. I’ll leave you with some songs and spend the rest of the day biting my nails.
Schnitzel!
Raclette!
Katsudon!
Moon Pie!
I didn’t vote for Pedro.
Борщ!
Everyone is waiting for the election results, so regardless of what happens, do the libertarian thing and use it as an excuse to buy more guns and ammo. – I find this othering
You mean we are waiting to see how the election gets stolen?
at this point, what difference does it make?
I guess that’s why Hilary has been “gooming” Kommie-Luh…
As written… “eeeewww.”
As intended… “eeeewww.”
^^^
Gooming
DOOMED!
So, Google at least is showing things razor thin in Michigan with 10% not yet reporting. That seems to bode well for Biden. He may get literally 270 ec votes.
I wouldn’t trust Google.
^^^THIS^^^
My napkin calculation shows 268 for Trump. Mail in ballots are such a bad idea. It just adds another level of chicanery to the entire sham process.
https://youtu.be/W0ULgXjo4Yo
Pennsylvania just let too much slip. When they insisted on no signatures and no postmarks required and 3 days for unsigned, no postmark ballots to show up, you knew they were up to no good. There is no reason for either of those changes unless you intend to attempt something.
And then all of the major metropolitan areas in the swing states decide to go home and halt counting? Gotta wait and see what the number to beat is…..
Pretty shady.
If you were trying to make it look like there was a coordinated effort to steal the election, this is what you’d do.
The big thing about mail-in ballots? There is no count of ballots cast. You have no idea how many votes there should be. And states that just blindly mailed them out have that conundrum on steroids. There are millions of potential votes. They know exactly how many they need to win the state. They know exactly who voted from the voter rolls. So finding names in the right areas to add a few thousand or even tens of thousands of votes is pretty trivial. But it takes time to fill out a bunch of ballots, and you don’t want sudden swings of 100% for 1 candidate. So…. wait to count until you have the extra ballots ready.
If they are not being shady, they sure are doing everything they can to make it look that way.
The bigger question being, how does the populace react to this obvious fraud? The CBC had their collective lips sticking out when it became apparent that it wasn’t a landslide. Biden lost.
This morning I drove the kids to school and flipped the radio around.
Every station singing from the same songbook.
“Trump falsely declares victory”
‘Trump falsely claims they are trying to steal the election”
“There is no evidence of any irregularities”
“Trump says he will stop votes from being counted. Trump has no legal authority to stop legally cast ballots from being counted”
ABC radio news, CBS radio news, NPR … back home CNN and NBC both using the exact same phrases.
They all say “This is how we expected things to go… we always knew it would come down to these states”
Did we? Or did we know that it was a Biden 17 point landslide. Because I’m pretty sure that’s what you guys were saying.
The fact that they all use the same phrases to describe things makes you wonder if there isn’t some common back-channel for communicating that they are using.
There absolutely is, but that back channel ous just whoever puts out the democrats’ talking points (Pelosi chief of staff or the dnc head? Idk, but it’s clear there is coordination).
It certainly would encourage a less virtuous type of person to find the missing votes to fill the gap.
Morning, Banjos.
So Trump obviously won. We have to wait the rest of the week to see the Democrats can gin up enough votes to steal a couple of states.
This sounds hauntingly familiar – like sour-grapes Dems in ’16.
Because there was massive amounts of mail-in votes that required no postmark and no valid signatures which turned around the election night results days after the fact?
I was thinking more of Biden being on track to win the EC and lose the popular vote.
Pennsylvania especially Philadelphia has a long history of voter fraud. Not surprised they’re playing games this election.
Mhm.
“We still have over 1 million mail ballots to count in Pennsylvania,” the governor wrote on social media. “I promised Pennsylvanians that we would count every vote and that’s what we’re going to do.”
Count. Every. Vote. . . Regardless of its legitimacy.
Why the fuck weren’t they counting votes yesterday? Oh, they’re still coming in, I suppose. ?
You will note that the two “swing states” that counted their ballots on election day both went fairly easily for Trump – Both Ohio and Florida.
And all the ones that are having trouble counting their urban mail-in ballots are leaning toward Biden… even Georgia? Hmmm….
Correlation is not causation…
But we live in the era of electronic ballot scanning. NBC this morning reporting that Allegheny county was “counting at a blistering pace, some 12 to 14 thousand per hour”.
Really? My county (Broward) used to have those issues. Then we replaced the elections supervisor. Suddenly all the vote is in. In Florida, the ballot gets scanned on your way out – you personally scan it and get a receipt. But somehow it took all 3 of these swing states until 1 or 2 am to start counting the mail in votes?
A back of the napkin calculation shows that Biden has to take 78% of those mail-in ballots in order to win.
This is absurd and dangerous.
He was 700,000 votes up. Does he think that mail-in will break 71-29?
Of course! Everyone knows that democrats believe SCIENCE! and therefore mail in their ballots to pervent covidspreadening. Only stupid republican dieniers vote in person.
Honestly, in this election they really could, but how does he know how many ballots there are to count?
Aren’t they still coming in until Friday there?
FNC gave me shitty info last night as I awake to find my preferred rep down by 20 and Scamberger/Freitas* tied. . .
*used to live in that district and parents still do so I am following it.
My district flipped bigly back to red after the 2018 “blue wave”. The Dem incumbent wasn’t especially objectionable other than being a Democrat. I would think this portends something, but… who knows.
Same for mine. I wasn’t here 2 years ago, but a not horrible Dem got beat last night after 1 term. Mark Sanford had the seat before him, so it wasn’t exactly uber-red.
Sefanik won by like 2:1 up here. According to WAMC, she was toast.
I see Freitas up by 7.
Not according to cnn.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/house
Weird, that shows 86%.
google shows 99% but lower total counts.
If we had just listened to the pollsters, there would be no confusion about the outcome, and America could begin the hard work of salvaging what is left of the nation from the destruction and decay of the Trump years.
So the wife had morning news on and they were projecting that Biden would win the EC and Trump the popular vote.
My schadenboner will last 4 years, rubbing it into the faces of every fuckhead on FB that has said only the popular vote truly matters.
Good morning, Banjos!
Thanks for the lynx and the excellent musical selection.
I’m going to need some chill music today, I think.
Have a great day, people!
Chill music:
https://youtu.be/H833o5lnB2E
Now just lie back and think of England.
<a href="https://youtu.be/iTYaAy64hgQ" title="The KLF Chill Out” target=”_blank” >This was always my choice for the transitional state between psychedelic enhancement and morning drudgery.
Sigh… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTYaAy64hgQ
7th District’s turned red. Seems like a big deal. The guy who got booted out was an A+ from the NRA, but that wasn’t enough to save him.
I’d be willin’ to wager
That it don’t matter much….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIYWYyA7his
Just wanna point out that the only way to outdo the craziness of 2016’s election, would be for the Democrats to have their victory snatched out from under them twice in 2020. I’m just going by how I’d write the script.
Nah. If I was writing the script, I would have had Biden win the EC, but lose the popular vote by a large margin.
But I’m a dick.
Did we track down the haxx0rz and send hunter-killer teams against them?
Leave that poor crackhead alone.
Turns out it was Tulpa,… but you knew that already.
I’m not going to number this one, but just a thought. Polls were way off for this election, not just at the presidential level, but for races across the country. Sign that Republican/conservative voters, at least at some margin, are more afraid now, or at least more disinclined, to express their opinions in public than they used to be?
I know at my workplace, for example, I would be very hesitant to express my political beliefs, but many more liberal-leaning folks round here don’t seem to feel the same inhibition. Might just be me, though.
I flat-out told my boss yesterday, “I don’t talk politics at work”. We get along great and I want to keep it that way.
I don’t talk politics at work. In fact, most of us at my level (middle management) and below, don’t. But several of our senior leadership are completely unreserved. In particular, my boss’s boss frequently brings up news items and the latest “did you hear what that idiot Trump said” stuff. Another VP got mildly reprimanded a couple of years ago after she looked up all the people who live in a particular county and exhorted them to donate to a local political org.
It’s not a terrible work environment, politically, and everyone gets along pretty well, but I wish it (politics) were just absent from the conversation at work.
My experience has been that big corperations – you don’t talk politics out loud. Small business – the boss will be very clear on their politics.
But, I am retired so it has been a few years. (Retired at 49! Woo Hoo. Oh wait…)
Its a sign that the polls, like the press, are just propaganda at this point. There were several polls out there that were much closer to what actually happened. As those same polls were in 2018 and 2016, when I started looking at them. Those polls get ignored. Meanwhile Nate Silver gets blown out every single cycle and still gets treated like gospel.
And I’m aggressively apolitical at work. The only time anyone tried to engage me in conversation, I politely told them I don’t talk politics at work. I’m there to do my job, thank you very much.
I agree… progs are much more comfortable spouting off. And they are much more comfortable getting confrontational and offended if they are not met with agreement.
I don’t do politics at work – and I’m circumspect about it with friends. They all know where I am with regard to Libertarian, but I always couch it in “I’m more liberal than you democrats are” when talking to democrats, and “I’m more conservative than you republicans are” when talking to republicans. I never assault their faith-based belief in team. Too dangerous.
What I find is if you disagree with the grundyist soft leftist assertions then you’re the one who’s made things political and awkward. So I keep my mouth shut.
Progs are political evangelicals. They have their holy cause and none of the unrighteous may stand in their way.
“More x than you”, hmm. Might try that on someone low-stakes.
It works – just have to steer them away from non-libertarian issues. Don’t talk economics with a proggie. Don’t talk social issues with a socon.
I can confirm that this is quite effective. Had a discussion with my ultra-progressive MIL once where she ended up sounding like a tyrant and actually caught herself doing so.
I’ve had great fun in being the phallus at family gatherings who would shut down political discussions by bringing up the bad shite that both sides have done.
/wonders why he’s rarely invited to family gatherings
Yeah, no shit. Your options are come out of the closet, or keep your job. You can’t have both.
Biden’s going to win. This isn’t black pill, just giving everyone an opportunity to mentally prepare.
Trump’s relatively solid leads in the Midwest at the end of the night but the refusal of officials there to call the race should’ve been a clue. How many of these late-coming votes are legitimate and how many are fraud, who knows? But apparently internal polling (and margins of fraud) showed that it all would come down to Philly, which is why they’ve been doing battlespace preparation for extended fraud opportunity in PA for the past couple of weeks. Claiming you won’t know the outcome in PA until the weekend before a single vote has been counted? The PA courts saying votes received with no signature and no postmark up to three days after the election have to be counted? Ummmm…yeah, they’ve been preparing to fraud it up hardcore for weeks. I mean hell, the media coined the term “Red Mirage” over a month ago to describe the exact fucking phenomenon we’re watching play out.
Really, it would be shocking if the Dems *weren’t* engaged in massive fraud right now; they’ve been pretty open about it since the summer. Coupled with the general Marxist credo of “the ends justify the means” we’ll see Biden stage a miraculous comeback in PA, win WI, MI, AZ and NV and the election by the end of the day. Barring some kind of Atticus Finch-style legal coup by Trump, it’s over.
This isn’t black pill, – no offense but why would it be?
Nah, that’s what lawyers are for. We all knew this was going to be a shitshow.
I think you are probably right, except that PA Trump still leads by 700K votes, that seems a might hard to manufacture a win with just 1Million votes left.
Most of those votes are in Philly which is fraudtopia. This is the place where Obama won 110% of the vote in some precincts. Stick a fork in Trump, it’s over.
Not when districts in Philadelphia have gone 120% for the Dem candidate in the past.
Yeah, my scenario where the urban Dem machines in swing states manufacture votes to steal the election seems to be where we are. I honestly wasn’t putting A Z in that bucket, but here we are.
Fuck Roberts for not shutting down the post election voting in PA. What a useless piece of shit he is.
I would assume that the Deep State has something on Roberts to keep him in line.
Was he ever seen in close proximity to Jefferey Epstein?
That’s one of the things people keep hinting at. Only pretty recently, though.
Back when the ACA “it’s a tax” ruling happened, my guess was that it was something like “we’ll ruin your kids”. Maybe (and this was pre-Wikileaks) the NSA had provided the Obama admin with compromising info on Roberts’ children – things like search histories and sexual proclivities.
So he had the choice to do what was right and see his children ruined, or play along and be the deep state’s lapdog.
Or maybe he’s one of them – dunno. Seems less likely than the “axe over his family” thing to me.
Not that has ever been reported. But there’s a “John Roberts” on the flight logs for the Lolita Express.
Deep State – did I stumble into a QAnon forum?
I don’t think you need to bribe or blackmail him into any of this shit. Its just who he is. Less of a romantic story, but more likely to be true.
And there is no way to unring this bell.
“segregate the ballots that come in late”
Really? Anyone believe that this happens in Philly?? Dollars to donuts they actually throw out more votes in the rural areas than they do in the city.
The “hanging chad” counts should have been a warning. They only recounted heavily democrat areas, and magically most of the “we discovered an uncounted vote” votes swung for Gore.
Florida and Ohio were not close enough to steal. 5 other states are – and magically all 5 have large urban areas where counting was late and halted temporarily. Almost as if there is a playbook for how to do these things.
Dollars to donuts they actually throw out more votes in the rural areas than they do in the city.
So you think PA county officials will be on the phone with Philly election folks and doing this, is that right?
No… I’m saying that rural precincts will be more likely to follow the law to the letter. In 2000, they did a recount – and ballots that were not marked in a way that could be counted by machine were subjectively evaluated.
There was no official recount elsewhere, but the subjectivity led to a first recount that increased the totals for Gore. And a second recount of the exact same ballots that led to even more votes for Gore. When all of the “error” tilts in one direction, you have your indication that other factors are at play.
In this case, you have a statewide count that is operating under provisional rules. Rural counties ostensibly intend to follow the rules. Philly area clearly has “we need to win this for Biden” on the agenda. Philly holding back counts until totals from the rest of the state are in is a strong signal of this.
So when it comes time to litigate, Biden has a huge team of lawyers. They battle every ballot in the rural districts where election officials have been scrupulous about keeping records. Lots of ballots are thrown out.
In Philly, they don’t do such a great job with the record keeping. It is just so overwhelming and unprecedented. Ooops.
So when it comes time to litigate, there are less records to challenge things with. There are tens of thousands of unsigned, late ballots that got mixed in with the on-time ballots. Ooops.
And with no way to accurately say how many votes were really cast, there is very little way to object to a county full of ballots that were manufactured in one way or another.
Just the existence of paid ballot harvesters in an environment where no signature is required and no postmark is required means that you are guaranteed to get some fraudulent ballots. When petition drives use paid signature gatherers, you get thousands of fake signatures. It is inevitable. That’s just human nature.
So when those are challenged… there is nothing to go on. No signature, no postmark… not even a reliable record of when and where it was collected.
So unless they are crazy incompetent, there is no way to get caught or to have the ballots thrown out.
It is also possible that Team Blue will win without fraud- but still cheating.
At the end of the day, an election is about turnout- throughput. There are far more Votes in each state than vote each election, and the job of your ground game is to get more of your votes to the polls. Back in the day, that was by actually picking people up and driving them to the polls, or otherwise encouraging them to do the same. But fundamentally, this comes down to a throughput formula.
1 Volunteer = X Votes
What team Blue learned in 2018, is that the formula above is wrong. It is actually:
1 Volunteer = X Votes * Y Days
The advent of mail in voting has made it so that a single person can be generating “turnout” for weeks leading up to the election. In California in 2018 this is how they flipped several Red districts Blue, and won the house. While Republicans were focused on getting you to the polls on election day, the Democrats were actually generating votes- completely legal votes- each day. We have heard about how Biden didn’t really have a ground game for election day, and this is why. You could have 10 Trump volunteers getting people to the polls on election day, but that one Biden volunteer has been harvesting ballots for 21 days. The math is still in Biden’s favor.
This is how team Blue wins without Fraud. They have a ground game that recognizes this is an endurance match, not a sprint. They need as many days, hours and minutes for their throughput formula to work. And so they cheat- doing everything they can to give (even legitimate) ballots time to get to the precinct.
Yeah, and mail-in ballots are uniquely susceptible to shenanigans, regardless of what they claim. Since you have no count of “ballots cast”, you have no way of knowing if that 20,000 ballots that were found after midnight in various polling places and collection facilities is valid or not.
Add in the technique of holding back all counting in the cities until after you know the total to beat and you have a perfect storm.
Well it depends. In my county, mail in is far more secure than precinct votes. In a precinct, you have anonymous paper ballots not attached to anyone. And you have a list of people who didn’t vote- so it is simple to mark those voters as voted, and drop in a stack of ballots. But in Mail-In ballots your ballot has a unique identifier that can be tracked.
They cannot “hold back” a bunch of ballots, because the USPS scans the ballot as it is delivered (Certified mail).
They cannot “find new” ballots, because the ballot is tied to the individual.
They cannot “replace” my ballot because I can at any time go online and see when my ballot was delivered to my house, where it was dropped off or mailed to, when it was collected and when it was scanned.
No doubt, it is still possible for someone to commit small amounts of fraud (3 – 4 ballots). But they have to work really, really hard to create mail-in ballots with the correct watermark in a mass amount- and even then, people like me will notice that my ballot didn’t follow the path I know it should have followed.
And besides, why take the risk? As I said above: THEY HAVE THE VOTES. CA, PA, MI- these states get around 60% – 70% turnout every year. That remaining 30% – 40% of voters merely needs to be contacted and their ballot harvested for your Team. If you can turnout another 5% over 3 weeks, compared to the other team, you win. You don’t need to risk going to jail. Just go get the ballots from that low-turnout neighborhood.
That remaining 30% – 40% of voters merely needs to be contacted and their ballot harvested for your Team. If you can turnout another 5% over 3 weeks, compared to the other team, you win.
This. It’s all about the path of least resistance. If you can harvest your way to a win, that’s easier than frauding your way in most places.
that said, I don’t think they either-or’d this one. I think they did both (in the places where mail-in security isnt as good).
In a few days, the media will have validated Biden’s mandate for radical change, and we can begin to rebuild.
Besides the nation-wide higher percentage of folks who would vote for the party of “we’ll send mobs to the houses of our political rivals” (which to me ought to be a full stop issue), what worries me more this morning is the by-county map of California. It used to be the coast was blue, most of the interior is red… now the blue has spread WAY inward. My county approved Yet Another School Bond increase (though hopefully, the state-wide camel-under-the-nose “We only want to increase property taxes on *commercial* properties! (This time…)” prop will fail.
Really seems like even at the county level, the “vote ourselves other people’s money” crowd is winning. I don’t know if that’s just generational shift, if more of the coast decided to telecommute from the interior or what’s probably most likely, most of the more conservative folks already got out.
And the problem with getting out — is where to? Look at Virginia… and look at my first instinct destination, Georgia — Atlanta is hitting the tipping point where the rest of the state can’t seem to outweigh it anymore.
And the problem with getting out — is where to? Look at Virginia… and look at my first instinct destination, Georgia — Atlanta is hitting the tipping point where the rest of the state can’t seem to outweigh it anymore.
I’ve tentatively landed on Alabama as my home in exile from VA. Tennessee and Arkansas seem like solid options too. Alaska would be a great choice if the isolation and cold aren’t dealbreakers.
Texas was in a dead heat with Alabama for me, but I think Texas will inevitably go blue. Georgia and North Carolina will definitely be going blue.
I don’t mind a purple state; a political monoculture is a terribly unhealthy thing.
But “purple state” is a notoriously unstable thing. My “purple” state is almost certainly going blue. Biden’s gonna win and we now have two blue senators (one with blue hair), and likely will have a blue governor in two years. It’s not “purple” so much as in the middle of a process of a red state turning blue. When that happens, the exiting “red” pols begin to act exactly like the moderate blue ones for their own political survival.
Everyone seems to forget just how reliably Democratic Texas once was, and it turned solidly red if ever so slightly tinting purple.
I don’t think any fuckers have a monopoly on power and if they do, their hubris will bring them to heel eventually. Granted, you may have to endure far more than you like, but that’s always true.
California will learn, and politically re-align, eventually. Of course only after things get sufficiently bad.
The entirety of California is Democrat machine politics now. It’s Chicago, Detroit, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, New York City, writ large.
When any of those cities break the stranglehold the Dems have, then I’ll believe California has a chance to as well.
California is one good recession away from a bigger financial collapse than NYC or Illinois.
The income tax is so progressive that a cold in higher incomes produces pneumonia for the state govt. There’s no middle class to bail them out, just the wealthy and the poor – and those poor ain’t making up for any slack.
California is one good recession away from a bigger
financial collapsefederal bailout than NYC or Illinois.California is one good recession away from a bigger financial collapse than NYC or Illinois.
And with their stupid green energy plan, they’ve put themselves on a collision course with it. Can’t have an economy (or a tax base) without power.
Illinois hasn’t been bailed out yet.
Illinois hasn’t been bailed out yet.
And I can’t see an R Senate, even with the 3 squishes, voting to bail out the blue states. I mean, I guess a bailout could still happen, but it could only happen if money gets tossed around equally to everyone.
Texas was in a dead heat with Alabama for me, but I think Texas will inevitably go blue.
Texas does seem to be trending purple, but the outcomes this election (with historic turnout but red holds up and down the ballot) make me hopeful it won’t go blue. It seems a decent portion of the people who move here actually do want something different from the places the left, and the Hispanic vote is trending red, albeit very slowly. A big plus for Texas in your consideration is if you are still working we don’t have an income tax, and that no income tax is enshrined in the Constitution and cannot be changed without a super-majority in the state legislature plus the approval of the voters.
“ Georgia and North Carolina will definitely be going blue.”
Like every state yes NC will eventually be a blue state, but that is years (a decade?) away. The R pres has still squeaked out a win except 2008 since 1980. Since Helms quit the senate races have been all over bc of legit local and campaign run issues.
But the real barometer here is the legislature has been R since 2002. Tea party conservative since 2010. Even when the state was raked over the coals in media about the transgender bathrooms it still elected an R majority legislature. The Rs gained seats yesterday too. You have to look local.
Having said all that TN is objectively one of the more free states
Ohio’s not that bad.
Of course, I’m biased, and entertained that the local news here in CLE complains about “house rule” votes getting overridden by state level rules
“And the problem with getting out — is where to?”
Wondering the same thing these days. Trying to find a place to settle someday and all our picks are flipping blue or close to it.
The plus side may be that by the time we settle there’ll be such a concentrated mass of red in a few states that we can all hold out during the siege…maybe..
Take a look at the electoral map by county. The red/blue divide tends to be rural/urban – so unless you pick a state without major cities, you are going to be stuck with that blue area and depending on how big the city is (or if more than one of them), that’s where the balance is lost.
As population density increases, collectivism and authoritarianism do likewise. Cities can only survive with inputs from outside, and thus will always embrace an ethos of slavery and theft.
Tennessee is solid.
Yeah… NE Alabama, TN over on the south side, just west of Chattanooga do come to mind (close enough to GA to visit relatives if need be). I just figure Birmingham / Huntsville and Memphis/Nashville are going to do an Atlanta within 10 years too.
Dems have won the spending wars.
And that is just a fact, and why a huge chunk of what Trump has done only flies above the radar for people who wanted something to beat him with.
use it as an excuse to buy more guns and ammo
You need an excuse?
STEVE SMITH NO RECOGNIZE ELECTION – HIM NO HAPPY. CASCADIA NOT FREE!
MAYBE GO VISIT POLLSTERS. BY, VISIT, MEAN RAPE.
Go get ’em STEVE.
Pretty simple: Win Michigan, Arizona or Nevada. Lose one and Biden takes it.
Not looking so good for Trump then.
Courts. They are going to have to set up some new standard for what exactly counts as a valid mail in ballot. They’d ad hoc’ed it and now we are going see the shitshow.
John Roberts, a genius at keeping the court apolitical.
5-3. Amy.
Dems maintain House and Republicans most likely to retain Senate.
Cheers to two years of gridlock!
I remind you that Mitt Romeny is one of those GOP senators who is “Maintaining gridlock”.
Don’t harsh my
hangoverbuzz.That’s the best outcome possible for this election, no matter who takes the White House, actually.
Well, looking at it that way, if Biden does end up winning, that almost certainly means Republican majorities in ’22.
Its what I was rooting for all along. I just didn’t think it was possible.
A news story especially for Q!
*adds SWA to boycott list*
May I just say that the trend of super sharp penciled in eyebrows needs to go away to never be seen again?
Watching NBC scramble to explain why the polls were so wrong. NBC political correspondent Claire McGaskell is very disappointed in us.
Well, I’m disappointed in you.
I have been slacking off lately.
After the CYOA opus, you are entitled to some downtime.
Is she using her mom voice?
Media Sensation!
On topic, and fitting today.
Is she as hot as that one Fox correspondent that shows up on Tucker from time to time? Her upper ones give the the Jimmie-Feelies!
Heh, no. Ex Corrupt Prosecutor, used voter fraud to steal a Senate seat.
That is not possible. I’m assured that voter fraud is a myth. It has never happened.
+1 Al Franken
*literally* found in the trunk of a car.
If Trump ends up losing and I hear someone say “the national nightmare is finally over”. I will remind them they elected geriatric senile racist who has a commie for a running mate.
I disagree that Harris is a commie. She is simply an amoral authoritarian thug. She would support Zardoz if she thought it would allow her to send her enemies to the grain fields.
Biden had better hire a food taster.
Point of order. Harris would blow Zardoz if she thought it would help her career.
Point of punnery. Harris would give Zardoz head if she thought it would help her career.
And the problem with getting out — is where to? Look at Virginia… and look at my first instinct destination, Georgia — Atlanta is hitting the tipping point where the rest of the state can’t seem to outweigh it anymore.
This is a huge problem. There are very few “rural” states (Montana still being one of them, apparently) where the widely dispersed conservatives can still outvote the liberal/progressive activists concentrated in a small number of cities.
And it’s not likely to get any better.
Of course, this would not matter so much if those activists had not expanded the reach of government into every single aspect of our lives.
Yup… that’s part of why it is so depressing. Not Adahn above called it – cities seem to increase collectivist tendencies, which makes sense in ways — you have to care more about your neighbor’s lifestyle when it directly impacts you (noise ordinances and the like spring up easily). But the pattern is that they just never make the jump (or care) that *outside* of the cities, that isn’t needed and they don’t need to tell the rest of the state how to live.
See the minimum wage laws, etc — where what makes sense in NYC / Albany / SF / Sacramento — makes zero sense for the little diner in the backwoods.
And writ large for the whole “Get rid of the EC! Why should Wyoming have any say!”.
And that’s the side that sure seems to be growing, hence my being bummed this morning… because I don’t want to be micromanaged by technocrats who Know Better How We Should Live. At any level… but I just don’t see how much longer we’re going to avoid it. I’d hoped with the obvious failure of various urban areas from a fiscal, law and order, etc. perspective — and with more people WFH due to COVID and technology — we might spread out enough to counteract the collectivism… but it sure doesn’t look like it.
I’ve grudgingly come to accept that the type of free society I desire can really only exist on a frontier. I try to practice agorism as much as I can (Heaven is high and the emperor is far away) and the anonymity of living in Megacity 1 helps. But, damn; it’s high time to expand into space.
Yep. Our planned retirement locations were New Hampshire and Arizona. Both crossed off the list permanently last night. Maybe a compound in West Virginia or Arkansas.
“do the libertarian thing and use it as an excuse to buy more guns and ammo.”
Haven’t stopped, was just hoping for another four years of being able to do so before disengaging the safety.
Yeah the fix is rolling in pretty much the way we (well, a lot of us) called it.
Best cherry on top for drama would be for Biden to get on camera today and either say something overtly racist, or finally keel over in front of the cameras.
It’s over. Biden won. It was always going to be close. FL and OH were larger than expected, but the race was always in the Midwest. He just didn’t get enough there. Even though the shenanigans on election night of just plain stopping counting for no reason piss me off, its legit. AZ flipping was the big turn in the night in retrospect.
So…does Biden even make it to the midterms before he has to step down for “health reasons”?
Yes. That way Camilla can get two full terms afterwards.
I say yes he makes it to midterms. Then if shenanigans want to go forward, Kamala will get to have 10 years as president.
Can he even manage a standard working week at this point? Let alone however many hours a President needs to do? Is he just going to call a lid on being President whenever he gets tired?
I think you’ll get President Kamala as soon as they can stage manage it, and she could be a lot more influential straight away than most VPs.
There’ll be a load of contrived excitement about the “first WOC President” but it won’t hide the fact she’s a bad politician who wasn’t scrutinised at all during the election.
I think it’s going to be a Tiberius in Capri while the Praetorian Guard runs amok type of situation.
Joe Biden Gives Surprise Speech, Predicts He Will Win PA & Election
C’mon, man. The mail-in vote fix is in.
Baghdad Bustos?
What we are seeing happen is what the Dems promised would happen in California in 2018. We’ll let you think you won on the night, but then “votes” will start coming in and it will all magically go one way.
I think they drank their own bathwater. There is no way to manufacture a blue wave now.
ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN ONES. ZARDOZ HAS DISAPPOINT. WHERE ARE THE VAST CLEANSINGS ZARDOZ WAS PROMISED? ZARDOZ HAS SPOKEN.
In DC i think.
Coming soon. I have the impression, and I hope I’m wrong, that the crazy hasn’t been unleashed yet.
Remember how we were always told, the bigger the turnout, the more democrats win by? Which is going to happen?
1. “We never said that.”
2. “Republican votes didn’t go up in 2020.”
At this point, I’d like to give a hearty Fuck You to the cuntes who put in a change request a week before their expected date, don’t answer any e-mails about it, and call it in as a P1 in the middle of the night. Meaning it gets dropped in my lap first thing in the fucking morning.
On the plus side, at least the shitty school levy apparently failed in my area, since the school district has already “lost track” of several million dollars.
Ugh… that’s right up there with our critical path testing only seeming to check their machines at 3pm on Friday, so they get to dump a slew of “Critical Test Blocker! Mainline Blocker!” issues on developers that afternoon.
It gets better. They provided an English language prompt they want put in… their call flow has multiple language options.
/looks at the whiskey bottle
The people who have spent the last four years delegitimizing the electoral process will now prance around ecstatically, claiming total victory and accusing anyone who fails to accept the result without question of being a Nazi.
Unless Trump pulls off an “upset”.
i just looked at the SOS site for MN election results. The hapless LP got 33,975 votes here (1.06%). In 2016 Johnson/Weld got 112,972 (3.84%).
Nice work, people.
JO JO was a big NO NO.
I’ve hopelessly cast many a vote for the LP, but that was a bridge too far.
I’ve been arguing for years that the LP needs to start targeting local and statewide seats. FFS, there’s been only a handful of candidates for those with -L next to their name here in Ohio.
Libertarians just need to start running as Democrats. Promise them the world then unleash a tirade of Libertarianism. The left won’t care as long as you say good feelz
Nah. They expect lockstep votes on the “important” issues. Look to the ACA for proof of that.
Yup.
Meh.
Liberty doesn’t sell. It’s the ultimate niche product.
Personally, I think it sells much better at a local level than a national level.
But what do I know, I’m just a bitter IT guy.
I think it sells much better at a local level – and even better at a HOA level
lol
Would not the HOA level be local?
/dealing with work shite, not parsing well
(he was pointing out the proclivity to meddle, even at the local level)
/mea culpa
Hopefully, the “emergency” work change is done now.
Just waiting on confirmation.
/knows the confirmation won’t come for several days.
I was wrong. They actually tested and confirmed it this morning.
/wanders off to make coffee
There is a reason that Franklin admonished about essential liberty being traded off for temporary safety – people are always willing to do that. I guess it’s remarkable that we have held out as long as we have.
In the McConnell senate race, the LP got 4%.
I said that after 2016, with the easy ballot access, the KY LP needed to run 100 candidates for state house (all 100 races) in 2018 and 2020. Sure, many would be paper candidates, but try to get real candidates for the races that are normally unopposed. None may win, but the numbers would have been interesting.
When will they give up the idea that they can influence the results from without rather than within? They need to latch onto the Republicans and start sucking them dry like a lamp ray.
Barring hundreds of thousands of instances of fraud, Trump takes it 283-255. ///Iwanttobelieve
Your newsletter. Will subscribe!
Why hasn’t Maine been called for Collins? It’s been stuck on 85% reporting since last night.
What the hell, Nebraska?!
The N stands for Nowlege!
/Big 8
Just like their football team for the last 2 decades. Overrated.
I’ve been saying this to my friends since Captain Zero; the US is going to go socialist, it’s just a matter of how long it will take. It’s really just following the trend of Western nations in general but a few decades behind. Trump was never going to stop the process, just introduce some speedbumps that might slightly extend things. I hope everyone has been using this time to be the ant instead of the grasshopper organizing your affairs to try and avoid utter penury because (relative) peace and (relative) prosperity were never going to last. There are just too many structural disadvantages and the main reason: people just don’t like freedom all that much. They love to pay lip service to it, but when it comes down to it, it’s scary and difficult to take responsibility for one’s own life and people really don’t like doing that.
This attitude factored into the decision to make q-ette; is it ethical to create a life that I know will likely not have it as good as I did? Ultimately, I decided that letting politics decide the course of my own life was depressing, stupid and immoral. Besides, we had another boob breakthrough yesterday; Mrs. Q had to move up yet another size so it’s all been worth it.
FFS, I didn’t know where to put my cash this year. I split it between savings (cash) and a algorithm managed investment account.
At least my mortgage is sub 4%.
FFS, I didn’t know where to put my cash this year – does it matter if the government confiscates it from an investment account or a retirement account or stock?
Lead, silver, and gold are much harder to confiscate.
When the commies came to Romania in 1945 some was buried but most was confiscated. A few years in a reeducation prison will make you tell em where it is.
Melgunov’s Red Terror In Russia 1918 – 1921 should be required reading for high school history classes.
Arizona provides the template.
All those California citizens who fled the excesses of the California government and moved to Arizona have decided to vote in the same type of government that they fled. People are apparently not without a built-in sense of irony.
The same is happening nation-wide. In the 80’s/90’s there were 30 million undocumented workers in the US, and we gave them amnesty in return for reforms that would ensure no more illegal immigration problems. Now… we have 30 million more. Include the kids of the first traunch and that’s a third of the country. And they are voting in the systems they fled. In smaller numbers than the California diaspora, but the same idea applies.
Country song on the radio this morning as I was getting much needed coffee. God is Great, Beer is Good, People are Crazy.
Now… we have 30 million more. Include the kids of the first traunch and that’s a third of the country. And they are voting in the systems they fled.
In many states, Hispanics voted 40%+ for Trump.
Florida for sure….
But it is a big change to the electorate, adding 100 million citizens (if we do another amnesty) who have backgrounds in socialist/dictatorships and a family history of illegal immigration.
Even if it is a 60/40 split, that’s a huge shift in the electorate. They are saying that this Hispanic wave explains Georgia and North Carolina among others.
20 years ago in Georgia i went to the local auto parts store and I was the only person in the store who could speak english. The manager who spoke english was on break. Took a while to figure out how to ask for my part. That was in an area that was known for Klan activity 20 years before that.
My dad started complaining about people not speaking english at the stores in Greensboro more than a decade ago.
So it is real.
And the point is that people analyze elections from a standpoint of “winning with your platform”, but this is winning by importing people who will vote for your team. Policy doesn’t really enter in to it.
My mom was a native Californian. She used to say that California should’ve put up a wall post WWII to keep out the migrants from other states who ended up ruining the state. As another native Californian, I say we should’ve put up a wall to contain the Californians now in the state from getting out.
If we split up the country, that could delay then encommieing of some of the parts. And then when the inevitable happens they could re-unify. Unfortunately, it’s not enough for commies to be commies, they need everyone else to be commies too.
It’s not so bad up here. The Feds allow everyone to fuck anyone in the ass except Quebec. They get a special carve out wherein you get to fuck the voters in the ass, refuse to bake the cake and make pineapple on pizza the law of the land. Plus you get to keep your foreskin if you consent within one day of birth.
they need everyone else to be commies too.
Just like evangelicals and radical Muslims – the left is a religious calling. Don’t ever mistake it for anything else.
“Mrs. Q had to move up yet another size so it’s all been worth it.”
Someone has his priorities right. Just wait till her milk comes in, she’ll be up another size.
I guess I could move to WV. I have been liking the mountains lately and dreaming of having a mountain house. And I could always travel to NC when I want to go to the beach. VA seems to be too far gone. Sad.
Maybe we’ll be neighbors. My wife really liked Harrisonburg, VA when we went through there a few months ago. But that state is gone and the nice people in the hill country are living on borrowed time.
Man, I can’t believe how many of you are throwing in the towel already.
Sad!
It’s not over yet.
I’m not. Amy.
Yes it is MI and WI are gone. AZ is already gone. That’s ballgame right there, even without whatever happens in PA.
And that’s the thing, mail in ballots worked. It was always about getting turnout up. People who don’t strongly feel one way or the other about policy will default to the Dems if for no other reason because of the media and the schools. Once turnout was way up, it was over. No “cheating” required.
That’s the Dems plan going forward, the pandemic was just the excuse. Make it ridiculously easy to vote, with as lax voting rules regarding signatures, postmarks, ect. More votes = Dem win nationally.
“Pray for rain on election day” is dead. Where do the Republicans go from here.
I admire your optimism.
However, MI is done; all these “missing ballots” in Wayne County will destroy Trump’s razor thin lead. PA is a foregone conclusion, they wouldn’t be doing these shenanigans if they didn’t know they had enough votes coming from G-d knows where in Philly to make up the ground and WI is already finished.
The only path I can see for Trump is if Maricopa County comes up huge for him with the remaining 16% of ballots they have left to count.
You are right, and if there is justice, Trump will emerge as the winner after a long disgusting legal fight.
But it’s also the last time it’s even close. If Trump is eventually declared the winner, we have 4 years to get our affairs in order.
it’s inevitable. Demographics are destiny, but not in the way the left means it. Urban centers will continue to grow until we have a second progressive era. The second progressive era will collapse our society. This election only impacts how quickly and forcefully the dawning era is established.
Sit back and get comfortable. Make sure your seat belts are tight. This is gonna be one hell of a ride over the next few decades.
Perhaps the Dems will find ballots in the perfect posteriors of these fine ladies on Ass Wednesday.
https://archive.li/Z93gt
I’m too exhausted to gaze upon cottage cheese. Perhaps another time, Q.
For the ladies giving themselves a vertical assist, squat more. overall too many to mention, good link Q.
@Festus very little if any cottage cheese in there.
#7 has a good iChive gallery until you get to her spamming her “on-line fitness training” business.
Lots of repeats in this gallery.
#8 and #9 are the same woman.
#25 has a good iChive gallery. She also appears as #32.
#15 and #31 are the same woman.
#21 and #36 are the same woman.
I agree with Lackadaisical. These women need to squat more.
Rogue state
The reality of the election is that the United States has shown itself to be, yet again, a 50-50 nation. Half of Americans backed Trump. The other half didn’t. In this respect, American electoral politics bears some comparison with other countries, not least Britain. The choice for both countries is whether to deepen that divide or to try to heal it. The choice is between a government that acts as if the other half does not exist, or a government that recognises that the other half exists too. Here again, hope points in one direction but experience points in the other.
The meaning of that grim conclusion should not be fudged. The result of the November 2020 election is that America has not purged itself of what it did in 2016. It has not turned its back on Trump’s climate change denialism, not rejected Trump’s racism, not spurned his isolationism, not punished him for rushing to pack the supreme court, not held him to account for his corruption and behaviour. The plain truth is this. Americans did a very bad thing indeed in 2016 and, whatever happens when the dust finally settles, Americans have pretty much done it again in 2020.
Fuck off, you sanctimonious preening limey knob.
Because they’re coming from the side of the healers, not the dividers, right? Yeesh….
This coming from an outlet that has consistently called half of America racist, sexist, science-denying hatemongers is infuriating.
Never read the Graun, for your own good. Certainly not Opinion anyway.
And an especial WTF! to AZ. Thought you guys liked guns.
Alaska is too cold for me. Maybe Juneau, that looks nice.
The panhandle area is temperate compared to everything Anchorage and north, but it will have more gray, wet, dreary weather than Seattle.
Purging a country’s population, that sounds nice.
God I hate the Guardian. Twenty years ago it was left-leaning but still basically a proper newspaper. In the 1880s it described a Tory plan to build houses for the working classes as “State socialism pure and simple”. Now it’s just an activist rag for the Labour Party.
The reality is that we don’t hear anything about the 49% when the left has the support of the 51%.
Oh good, I thought I’d been blind.
That is, I don’t always remember the G as having been so bonkers …
Forgive us, leftists, for we have sinned.
Get your ass to Mars.
the ass thread is a few comments up
Wrap this around your head. It’ll buy you some time.
Is is over. Pie was right. Hyperion will have to eat humble eel pie
One last thing before I take off to work. I don’t post that much here, but I’ve been becoming more active. It’s nice to have a sane place where I don’t feel like I’m completely delusional about what is happening in the world. Where Hunter Biden’s laptop exists and Trump isn’t Hitler. I don’t have that IRL.
A sincere thanks to everyone here. If I am insane, at least I have a place where I’m not the only one.
Who are you taking to? there is no one here. The site is still offline. This thread does not exist. You are imagining things.
I saw you tapping on my window just now. G’way!
You and me both. More correct voices are better voices!
Good morning, Banjos
Sadly she doesn’t respond to us desperate middle-aged guys anymore. I used to get a charge from a cute young thing replying but I imagine it became too much after the fiftieth neck-beard.
Oi!
My beard is nicely trimmed, and doesn’t qualify as a neckbeard.
Of course I only know this because of a friend of mine’s wife.
Of course I only know this because of a friend of mine’s wife.
Because she has a neckbeard?
He was growing a neckbeard, and pointed to me as an example. She called mine well trimmed and pointed out that I trimmed it up to the jawline.
He was clean shaven the next time I saw him.
“A beard is no substitute for a jawline! No matter how you trim it!”
Mine isn’t a substitute, it’s a glorious addition.
/contemplates shaving it off to get carded more frequently
In fairness, he only shaved a vertical line down on either side of the attempted van dyke.
/realizes how much the girlfriend complains about the beard, lets it grow longer
I’ve been too busy as of late to stick around to read the comments. Nothing personal. Good mornin’, Festus.
Mornin’
*Shocked face*
Ballots have been mailed in to the New York City Board of Elections in the name of dead voters, The Post has learned.
I wonder why? It’s not like Trump was going to win NY. I guess it was for local elections.
Greenwald is on fire this morning
Greenwald is a treasure.
I used to get into it with him years ago but credit where credit is due. That Snowden release broke him.
He’s got a huge point.
Florida somehow managed to count pretty much every single vote within hours of the polls closing… and they are over 20 million strong – bigger than any of these swing states by a wide margin. Ohio also managed to get the votes counted.
But somehow big cities can’t count votes? Why would that be? The vote from Miami was in on time. They are metro areas of very similar size. Why the disparity?
When in Rome.
Italian Premier Giuseppe Conte has signed off on new pandemic rules that include a nationwide overnight curfew and tighter restrictions on the country’s regions where infections are surging and hospitals risk running out of beds for COVID-19 patients.
Sure…
A sincere thanks to everyone here. If I am insane, at least I have a place where I’m not the only one.
#METOO
That goes in multiples for TPTB.
Michigan will go for Biden. Trump is toast.
Yup. It’s done and as others mentioned PA will find the ballots Biden needs.
I thought I saw that Trump has a half million vote lead in PA. That will be fraud of an un-manageable level. I don’t think the Dems can swing it.
Biden is winning AZ and Nevada. If they get him 2 out Michigan and Wisconsin and Georgia it is over. PA doesn’t matter
GA doesn’t seem close enough either, unless I’m missing something big. 92% of precincts in, and Trump is +105k. Are they doing the perpetual mail-in thing, too?
“So much for the polls . . . again: Biden’s predicted lead evaporates after shy-Trump voters emerge in their millions. But why DO people feel they can’t admit to voting for the right?
As happened in 2016, Donald Trump appears to have been helped by ‘shy’ voters who turned out on election day but were not willing to admit who they were voting for ahead of time.
Many experts and Trump supporters blamed the polling error on an increasing unwillingness of the public to declare their support for conservative candidates.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8912081/Have-pollsters-got-wrong-Early-results-Trump-ahead-key-battleground-states.html
Or the pollsters are deliberately dishonest swamp creatures who know people want to vote for the winner.
why not both? I said I voted Biden to a pollster. fuck them all. TMITE.
It probably is both.
My God. They really are stealing an election before our eyes. What is this madness?
business as usual?
This was always why biden was the sure bet. The second they paused counting last night should have clued everyone in. They didn’t want to declare Trump the victor so this wouldn’t be as suspicious. Whatever, buy guns, get laid and live well.
Joy Reid: “Uncle Clarence”
She is the worst.
It looks like it all might come down to the fact that a metric crap-ton of Californians fled the state and moved to Arizona… bringing the political climate they were fleeing with them. AZ stays with Trump and this all looks different.
Barnes said AZ was out of the question for Trump – too corrupt. He said he got multiple ballots at his AZ residence, including one for some former resident that hadn’t lived there in so long that he had no idea who they were.
We have zero election integrity. No matter what happens roughly half the country will not accept the result. The difference, of course, is that people who voted Republican will not riot.
people who voted Republican will not riot.
IMO, it depends on how brazen they are in fixing the result over the next few days. Do the conservatives resign themselves to being cheated out of this one? Do they take a page from the left and start intimidating people? Dunno.
This is basically the worst case scenario. Go to sleep election night with Trump in solid leads across all of the close states. Wake up to that number being slowly whittled away by straggler mail in ballots. The legitimacy of the election is directly implicated in flagrant fashion.
Add to it that the left has openly let agitators and violent protesters harass, rob, burn, blockade and intimidate people living in the cities for months.
They’ve set a standard for allowing political violence in their districts that others have taken note of and are preparing for in the likely event that it spreads. They will call it “right-wing militia violence” when the populace resists their balaclava-wearing shock troops, and they will use it as an excuse to crack down.
That’s truly what I’m scared of this tactic worked for them and it’s not going away, it will be back in 2 years.
It’s pretty brazen the fact they stopped counting last night in states Trump had the margins of victory to declare for him tells you everything they don’t want anyone to focus completely on Whiskey or Michigan they were able to spread attention across the board.
Heh. My plan for tonight.
They won’t riot, but they might start shooting the people who stole their country. This is bad shit.
Yes
No, they won’t, they will bitch and moan and sit still and take it, because they still feel like they have too much to lose. And by te time they are actually ready to fight, it will be too late.
Wouldn’t know how to quantify it, but surely not all ex-Californians are like that. But enough, perhaps. Re motivations for moving, I read at least as much about political disgust as lower cost of living.
But enough, perhaps.
There does seem to be a correlation between and influx of Californians and Democrat takeovers.
Could be urbanization, though.
Yeah, that’s what’s somewhat hard to tell here in North Dallas. There’s a clear trend that when a suburb becomes landlocked (no longer an exurb), the short, fast march to 50/50-town happens. That said, I watched my old district (TX32) go from solid red to lean blue between the 2016 and 2018 elections. Biggest change? State Farm moved its HQ into that district and they built tens of thousands of homes to house the people moving from Illinois and California to work there and the myriad other HQs thst popped up in the area.
I dont know how much to attribute to each cause, but intuitively it doesn’t seem like the change is caused by urban Texans moving into the burbs in increasing numbers.
I wonder if some of that could be unintentional?
For example, it’s been often noted here that many folks believe or at least trend toward whatever is being pushed hardest from media. Especially if they aren’t thinking very deeply about all this wonky stuff.
So is it possible that people are indeed fleeing places like CA and NY, not in any way intending or expecting their new home to end up like what they just left, but completely ignorant of the fact that the party they continue to vote for is the cause?
Disclaimer: Not saying that Team R is great on the whole limited-gov’t thing, either, just addressing the thoughts in context.
“WELP KANYE 2024′: Rapper Kanye West admits defeat in presidential election after getting a DISMAL 57,000 votes in 12 states – but hints at another run in four years”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8912463/WELP-KANYE-2024-Kanye-West-concedes-defeat-getting-DISMAL-57-000-votes-12-states.html
“Rising Republican star Madison Cawthorn, 25, tweets ‘cry more, lib’ after he wins election to become the youngest member of Congress taking the crown from AOC”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8912223/Rising-Republican-star-Madison-Cawthorn-25-tweets-cry-lib-wins-election.html
“Oregon becomes the first state to decriminalize possession of ALL drugs including HEROIN and COCAINE – as New Jersey and Arizona legalize pot”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8912083/Welcome-party-Recreational-marijuana-legal-New-Jersey-Arizona.html
Libertarian moment?
I’m more concerned about their de facto decriminalization of rioting, arson, and looting.
I’m more concerned about junkies shitting on the streets. I could give a fuck about their bad habits. Go off yourself in your own special way, don’t expect me to pay for or clean up after it.
The people have a right to be heard.
I wouldn’t be so worried about that if I was allowed to legally defend myself from said behavior. As it is the police and AG’s are more than happy to prosecute you for asserting your rights if it interferes with the rights of someone else celebrating a cherished cause.
Waking up this morning it now appears Biden will win.
On the bright side, odds are good that Sullivan will acquiesce on the Flynn case in the next two weeks now that the election is over.
Infuriatingly evil
Not gonna happen.
Thinking supreme court overrules post election day ballots? How else does trump win?
Joy Reid is authentically black. It’s not like some white guy calling Cory Booker a dunce.
The funny part about all this: what the Dems are doing to win is not particularly sophisticated. A reasonably intelligent sophomore Poli Sci major could come up with the strategy they use, you just need the people and the infrastructure in place to implement it; machine politics at its finest. They are not some geniuses, they’re just highly motivated and committed to the cause, don’t care about changing the rules to benefit themselves, have the means to do it and have complete support of the fifth column media.
It’s not a case of the Dems playing chess and the GOP playing checkers; it’s a case of the Dems playing checkers and the GOP sitting in the corner jacking off to stepmom porn.
Set up a system that is wide open to low level people who want to screw with it and sit back. Plausible deniability to the perfect level.
sitting in the corner jacking off to stepmom porn.
Hey buddy, quit doing that.
With all these calculations, I’m predicting a napkin shortage.
I ran out of envelopes last week.
Thoughts on the ~50/50 split, legitimacy, past examples, and the next few years:
2000: Ds lost – legitimately lost
Nutshell: FL (mostly) incompetency and some shenanigans got quashed by the court, and the media played along to make a scandal.
Legitimacy: Ginned-up a reason to not accept 43’s Presidency, starting the whole modern scheme of “not my president”. The Donks, media, and other elites were all singing from the same sheet.
2008 and 2012: Rs lost – legitimately lost
Nutshell: McCain and Romney were awful, even to the Rs. Obama was the media darling, with the strange holes in his past. Obama fostered birtherism to keep attention from his real past, and the Rs took the bait.
Legitimacy: Obama’s odd past and his personal/political repugnancy really stirred up the backlash, with an even stronger “not my president” thing going. But none of the Rs doubted the process or counts, so the “system” wasn’t really in doubt.
2016: Ds lost – legitimately lost
Nutshell: Hillary was awful and the media totally missed Trump’s appeal, catching them off-guard.
Legitimacy: Deep denial of reality by the Ds, and a 4-year long coup, that’s been in the open for the last few months.
2020: Here’s the different feel (to me) on legitimacy between the 2 sides right now:
Blue doubt is mostly top-down – they’re running a coup and everybody knows it. So it’s from the script and they’re fine with it.
Red doubt is mostly bottom-up – they’ve seen the difference in the enthusiasm, and know that all the pauses last night and “findings” in the next few days are (as predicted and even boasted) openly stealing it.
What’s the difference mean? I think the Ds goal is breaking the whole system – it’s part of their war on Western Civilization. Up to now, the Rs have been good boys and girls and played by the rules (see above). And when the Ds openly steal the election it in the next few days, that’s all over. Not sure what’s going to happen, but I’d bet it starts at Sheriff and State levels – probably with nullification. And gets worse from there.
Amy.
I think the shenanigans are going to keep Amy (et al) from having any mathematical options, even if it gets there.
We all knew this was a possible timeline. Massive cheating was expected. We’re seeing it now unfold.
The presidency will be decided in the courts. There will be recounts and fraud exposed (not all of it, but some of it.)
If I’m wrong, well, i guess I’ll see y’all in the re-education camps.
Hope you’re still awake, F. Which Amy is more apt?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1uc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-I2s5zRbHg
Why do you keep saying “Amy”?
He thinks Amy Comey Barrett is going to be the deciding vote in the Supreme Court case.
Oh, OK
The Rs are too law and order and won’t riot. They will back the blue as they go door to door doing firearm “safety” inspections. There will be a few grumbles about forming militias but no movement will come if it.
Perhaps being law and order isn’t the way to win elections anymore. I mean, hell, it seemed to work for team blue.
No, they won’t. That really would take the civil war hot. Cops would be getting ambushed in the suburbs.
Yeah they will.
Because on the first few cases, the cops will target really unattractive folks with sketchy histories and personal problems to get the ball rolling.
And whoever’s leading the vocal resistance to this will be framed with (predicting it here) child-pron on their computer. Just watch.
At that point, we are firmly in nothing-left-to-lose territory.
/looks around my neighborhood
Shit, looks like I should have gotten strapped two years ago.
/sharpens kitchen knives and microplanes
Ah, I see you own a history book.
starts at Sheriff and State levels
The sea of red will have to nullify and ignore the few blue blotches.
I mean, if you were trying to convince me that our social infrastructure is profoundly stupid and incompetent, then the last 12 years have done a hell of a job of it…
Soros will expand his prosecutor program to sheriffs.
And when the Ds openly steal the election it in the next few days, that’s all over.
I just can’t see Repubs and Trumpers doing shit about it, is all.
At a leadership level yeah. I mostly meant the great mass of deplorables who saw the enthusiasm, had always been “play by the rules” types because that’s what they’re supposed to believe in and be. And they believed in it despite tons of evidence because, even seeing the hatred the establishment and Ds have for them, they’re “do right” types.
And now their eyes have been opened.
What’r they gonna do? Don’t know. But now they’re used to being loud (think boat parades) and aren’t going back under that leaf. I think lesser magistrates (Sheriffs and Govs) will be more open in their plain refusal to go along with Fed stuff.
Fucking. Nothing.
There’s no infrastructure to put them in a tenured professorship after their decade of setting off bombs in public.
#collapsitarian
Oh well.
Pretty amazing Biden got 70 million votes. I guess people really hated Trump that much.
He personally killed 200,000+ people!
It worked.
Fauci is safe.
The DNC knew what they were doing all along.
210 million!
The Court, Rufus, think of the Court…
Some random thoughts:
First, Trump was his own worst enemy. Yeah, he got a lot of mileage in 2016 attacking the media and insulting his opponents. Then he was pretty much on cruise control through Feb. 2020 because of the economy. But when the virus hit, his inability to consistently string together coherent ideas hurt him. Yes, he went after reporters and Biden, but he didn’t clearly articulate his responses (e.g. he didn’t explain the early advice he got on the virus and why he didn’t go the route of, say, Spain). Furthermore, publicly arguing with your own “experts” is not helpful. Fauci may be a dick and wrong about things, but you either push aside with clear reasons why or you explain why you disagree with his advice. I think Trump’s schtick got old for a lot of people.
Second, the Democrats ran a “safe” candidate and kept Biden on message. Nothing particularly radical in his statements which allowed a lot of people (including most of my neighbors) to believe that Biden will be like, say, Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton.
Third, I do find it intriguing that, for all their radical rhetoric, the Dems had to run an old white guy to win.
Well its over.
I’m going to post this and then sign off for the day. The thing i’m most frightened of right now is that Biden puts the country on lockdown and losing my job. The GOP will do nothing to stop and will probably invite all the lincoln project fucks back to the party.
It really is something that the People prefer fear, economic stagnation, and identity politics, isn’t it?
Drunkenly driving your car on mountain roads at midnight is less scary than a moderate amount of turbulence in the back of an airplane.
When you’re blind to the actual risk, the illusion of control predominates. It doesn’t stop until you plow into a van full of kids returning from a church retreat.
The GOP will do nothing to stop and will probably invite all the lincoln project fucks back to the party.
I don’t think so. On the former, the red states have every reason to resist national lock-downs that would be blatantly unconstitutional and strangle their economies, and on the latter nobody welcomes an unrepentant backstabber with open arms.
/turns a baleful glare towards DeWine
Oh, yeah, not all red states, but many of the little ones that went ~60% for Trump plus I think also the invigorated Rs in TX and FL will form the backbone of the resistance. Biden is eking out a narrow win, so there is no reason to surrender to him if he makes a left turn with executive orders. There’s a very real possibility, I think, that much of that pro-Trump energy becomes anti-Biden energy the moment he steps over the line.
There’s hope for 2024!
I has coffee now. Life is better.
They aint the Party of Stupid for no reason.
You massively overestimate the republicans.
Pretty amazing Biden got 70 million votes. I guess people really hated Trump that much.
I expected no less from the Party of Hate and Fear. They have stoked the fires of envy and resentment to a white hot intensity for the past four years.
Overheard at lunch yesterday.
“I didn’t vote for Trump, he would probably get us in a war.”
The susceptibility to propaganda runs deep.
It’s about wanting to vote and signal with your peers, regardless of reality.
Trump is the least likely President in my lifetime to get us into a war. It’s his best selling point. He’s the only one I’ve ever seen openly question the utility of such a thing. For everyone else, the more war the better.
Where are all the poor boys and boogalo boys rioting today?
Where they always do. In the minds of leftists.
Completely rational.
I actually agree with her, those fears are insane.
The left lives in la la land. It’s only fitting their celebrities live in LA.
the mainstream dem narrative is completely deranged and insane. Quanon and Alex Jones are way saner compared to what these celebrities go on about on their massive platforms.
Nevada isnt going to update until Nov 5th the following:
Mail-in ballots that were dropped off on election day, provisional ballots (ones like my wife and half my neighborhood that registered last minute). Those are expected to break for Trump.
The ones that probably won’t break for Trump and will be most likey just enough to ensure Biden victory is the ballots received after yesterday.
That is already a court case thay Trump lost but was appealing.
Sc is going to be busy.
Yes. Trump is not leaving without a fight.
And Roberts made sure that no decision will be seen as legitimate. At least not in PA. Jackass.
One other phrase they all are using:
“No state has ever declared a winner on election night”. Sometimes with the modifier “official” in front of winner.
So they are all assuring me that there never has been a winner declared on election night.
This, despite the fact that we declared a winner on election night in every election I’m aware of… even 2000 where gore was the winner, then Bush, then gore conceded then gore retracted his concession…. and in Dewey V. Eisenhower, where at least one paper got it wrong.
Not that it really matters, but the “telling the big lie” really annoys me. Every one of the people telling me “there has never been a winner declared on election night” has personally declared winners on election night on air. It is crazy.
(psst: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IbEAAOSwBm9fG3Us/s-l300.jpg )
That was the point. Even those two elections that got wrongly called were called on election night by the public consensus. And they say “no election winner has ever been declared on election night”.
Even 2016 Trump was declared on election night.
This is the first modern election since exit polling began where they did not declare a winner – and they all agreed in advance that they would not declare a winner and somehow magically history has changed and nobody has ever declared a winner.
Orwell.
“We have always waited for the state elections officials to declare the official results.” is the new “fact” that didn’t exist a few days ago.
Sorry. Whoosh– ✈️
One good thing – Daines kicked Bullock’s ass in the Montana Senate race, and we’re having a Republican governor for the first time since 2005. Also, we’ll legalize recreational MJ, and there’s a slim chance the initiative to limit localities’ ability to oppress 2A rights will pass.
This is a weird election.
Here’s another weird one: NE-2 went to Biden. But the incumbent R looks like he’s won re-election.
Charleston County went to Biden, slightly, but the challenger Republican beat the incumbent Democrat in the house.
Hey another Montanan!
One of the main reasons I want Trump to win is so that Bullock can slink out of politics forever, instead of getting appointed Secretary of the Interior or some crap.
Inspiring confidence.
Nevada Elections
@NVElect
Nov 4, 2020
That’s it for election results updates until 9:00 am on Nov. 5. Here’s what has been counted so far:
All in person early votes
All in person Election Day votes
All mail ballots through Nov. 2
1/2
Nevada Elections
@NVElect
Here’s what is left to count:
-Mail ballots received on Election Day
–Mail ballots that will be received over the next week
-Provisional ballots
Ballots outstanding is difficult to estimate in Nevada because every voter was sent a mail ballot. Obviously, not all will vote.
Wouldn’t know how to quantify it, but surely not all ex-Californians are like that. But enough, perhaps. Re motivations for moving, I read at least as much about political disgust as lower cost of living.
It’s a continuum, not a set of boxes. A “California Republican” is a liberal leftist when you drop him into a Rocky Mountain state. He’s still going to want a watered down version of the statist idiocy which drove him out. He likes the lower taxes, but can’t wrap his head around why there aren’t sidewalks and street lights and fire hydrants in his ranchette neighborhood.
Most of the californians I’ve met here in TX have been cost of living/HQ moved types. I haven’t met one that is a Texas conservative.
The californians who moved to Dallas are in TX32, TX3, and TX24. TX32 flipped in 2018 (the excreble Collin Allred, a man whom I personally detest). TX3 is 55/45 GOP, which is down from 65/35 in the past. TX24 is a dead heat, despite being a 60/40 district in the past.
Californians are voting blue here in North TX.
If you’re sure I’ll take your word for it.
I just don’t get that mindset. I never pursued it, but I once considered expatriate life in Europe. I would do things the local way. If lawn-mowing is banned on Sunday then who am I to argue?
I sound like Adam Carolla.
Californians are voting blue here in North TX.
But they can’t all be – TX had over 2M more voters this year than in 2016, yet it stayed red, and while Biden over-performed Hillary by ~3 points, Trump was only down by 0.5 points, so where did all the extra R voters (Trump literally has 1M more votes than last time) come from?
so where did all the extra R voters (Trump literally has 1M more votes than last time) come from?
When 60% voting rate is normal, they could come from anywhere. I’m one of those 1M people. I was here in TX in 2016 and didn’t vote. I’m back here in 2020 and did. Same for my wife. Now we just need to track down 999,998 more new Trump voters. ?
Dictators rely on the courts?
Trump claiming a victory he never won, and saying he will take it to the Supreme Court. This is what dictators do. Stop.
Where are the tanks in the streets? Where are the troops around the tv and radio stations? Trump can’t even dictator correctly.
This is ok, according to Dorsey.
Wait…she actually reposted this? What a fucking cunt.
Especially since she spent weeks telling everyone how traumatized she was by the reactions the first time she posted it.
Mark, you ignorant cunte.
#DespotDonald declares victory as votes are still being counted-Calls election “a fraud on the American public, so we’ll be going to the Supreme Court & we will win this”
It’s so weird to have an authoritarian who undermines democracy in the WH.
One good thing – Daines kicked Bullock’s ass in the Montana Senate race, and we’re having a Republican governor for the first time since 2005
Woohoo! I was not especially confident Daines would win.
And the best part: no more of those infuriating “Muh pre-existing conditions!” ads everywhere.
Bullock outspent Daines by 60% – it got him within 9 points.
BUT MUH CITIZENS UNITED!
Last night I think we all won a small victory. Polling has now been proven officially useless. And by extension the press looks even worse than it has recently.
Which would be a lasting lesson if the mass of the public didn’t have a memory hole bigger than the solar system.
And now all of our measly savings will be officially useless.
And the media will now have the power to forbid what little bit of dissent is left.
Eh, I think this is a decent outcome.
Divided government and republicans hold the senate.
There won’t be any court packing or raising of taxes or crazy energy or education or healthcare plans.
Republicans are well set up to harass a democratic presidency foe 4 years with the courts.
Trump is an especially unlikable idiot and if his midwest mojo isn’t good enough it’s time to cast him aside.
Yes, that’s the bright side, for sure. Still, Trump losing isn’t what bothers me. It’s the Dems winning despite (or because of?!) their evil. I’d prefer a dumb-ass but mostly harmless Trump stay in the White House over the Dems further entrenching the Executive Branch.
It’s the Dems winning despite (or because of?!) their evil.
This. Not that I held the voting public in high esteem, but I really don’t like the mandate the left will see to turn wokeness, cancel culture, and rioting up to 11.
I would have preferred it but I realistically thought Trump could lose this election easily. He’s popular in certain places but overall.. meh.
It could have been worse.
My thoughts, somewhat. I’ve never been a fan of Trump, but how could anyone with a reasonable grasp on reality think that putting Kamela Fucking Harris in the presidency is a good idea?
That said, my big concern is less any particular policy that the Harris administration will push through, and more that the Democrats are very open about how they deserve to rule, forever, and that they’re going to continue changing the rules in order to make it happen.
About the only thing one can say with any confidence is that Trump would have won easily absent Chicom-19. I’m shocked the election is as close as it appears to be. I thought Biden would be the clear winner on Nov.4th. However, my GOP contact’s fears for Chester Co. PA seem to have been realized. Right now it looks like the last three GOP state house seats are gone, that Biden surpassed Clinton’s victory, and the Philly suburbs are reliably Blue (until, of course, the Dems start trying to hijack suburban money to bail out failing Philadelphia.)
That’s because of Trump though.
But who can the republicans get that will get them back and now lose all his midwestern ground? maybe no one.
Look, that Trump sailed into a party he hardly was a member of and waltzed to the nomination in ’16 tells you all you need to know about the hollowness of the Republican Party. The California Republicans still can’t campaign their way out of a piss-soaked paper bag.
“About the only thing one can say with any confidence is that Trump would have won easily absent Chicom-19.”
I also think the social media purge made a huge difference.
Neither Biden nor Trump ran a good campaign. Trump was way better in 2016.
The Kekistanis slacked off with the meme magic.
Clearly I need refresh magic.
Who were the two that used to squabble over the reality of meme magic? I vaguely remember Gilmore being the anti-side but can’t remember who was pro.
“The Kekistanis slacked off with the meme magic.”
If you think that’s all that’s going on with social media censorship, I don’t know what to tell you.
No meme magic this year. Q.Q
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-pennsylvania.html
Currently way up in Bucks, and barely ahead in Chester.
Biden is only ahead in 8 counties across the state. Most of them aren’t close (and Philly is as Biden-tied as the rural areas are for Trump).
Beaver County needs to get its shit together and report. We’ve been stuck on 66% of estimated votes since last night.
Interestingly, one of our Republican county commissioners has a Lincoln Project “Ridin’ with Biden” sign in his front yard, along with a sign for the R candidate for our local state rep. No sign for the US House race though. Must not be a fan of Sean Parnell.
…and the Philly suburbs are reliably Blue…
It should be pointed out that the Philly suburbs, with the sole exception of Chester, have been reliably Blue for nearly three decades, so no real change here.
. However, my GOP contact’s fears for Chester Co. PA seem to have been realized.
Except for Trump did 3 points better against Biden than he did against Hillary. There wasn’t a massive GOP retreat from Trump and your contact couldn’t have been more wrong.
Turnout in my area, deep, deep red, was wildly bigger than in ’16.
Late afternoon, Biden is doing 3% better in Chesco than Hillary did.
I jist can’t even with those people.
what do you mean, those people?
(((Them))), obviously.
I also jist can’t even type or edit.
Got held up in moderation last night (serves me right posting for the first time after lurking since March of 2017), but wanted to re-post part of what I said then:
It’s funny to me, actually: having read nearly every post – and associated comments! – since nearly the founding of the site, I feel like I’ve gotten to know many of the community here. But of course, none of you know me from Tulpa. Now that I’m
exposing myself,coming out, introducing myself, I hope that will change. Again, thanks.Now, regarding election stuff:
Without having done much other than a cursory DDG search, I’m wondering:
Has any we-don’t-have-all-the-voted-counted-and-it’s-close race ever gone to a Repub? I’m trying to think about state or other races where “it’s too close to call” and there are votes being “found,” and it seems that those always end up putting the Dem over the top.
Am I wrong on this? Are there any sources that track this sort of thing? Wouldn’t this raise suspicion? Am I now channeling Judge Nap?
Fuck of, Tulpa!
I flip your missing “f” right back at ya, pal!
“Has any we-don’t-have-all-the-voted-counted-and-it’s-close race ever gone to a Repub? I’m trying to think about state or other races where “it’s too close to call” and there are votes being “found,” and it seems that those always end up putting the Dem over the top.”
It’s called The Blue Shift https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/brace-blue-shift/615097/
I personally can’t think of a single race that broke Red late.
Which then raises the question in my mind: Are there no Repubs/Libertarians/Greens/Other that do any of this ballot counting or can break into the process? When it’s that clear, for that long, seems like that would raise red flags, but *shrug* I guess.
florida 2000?
I thought that was one that broke gore, but just not quite enough to overcome bush’s lead. I was 12 at the time so the details are fuzzy in my head
Yeah what happened was they kept “recounting” and Bush’s lead got narrower and narrower. Then they stopped the counting.
That was actually the race a coworker (hard-core Dem) brought up, and yet the swing was “heading Gore’s way” and “if only the SCOTUS hadn’t stopped our recountz we would’ve won!”
So I would argue that it’s another one in the Dem’s favor; they just ran out of time.
I mean not really. Bush was still ahead (barely) by the time election day ended and it was time to start the litigation. They did it in NC using ballot harvesting but the results got tossed.
You would think that the GOP would do something about this. I guess they’re too busy jerking off over their noble, statesman-like conciliation speeches…
Can they?
I don’t know enough about who gets to decide who counts the votes in each jurisdiction, so maybe that’s where the machine is unstoppable.
But if that’s not the case, then ya – that’s where some energy needs to be focused. Not in order to fraud the other way, but to ensure actual integrity of the process.
You would think that the GOP would do something about this.
It’s all handled at the state/local level, and most of the places that see blue shifts are places where the Dems have control.
The GOP has the same access to the lawfare machine that anyone else with money does.
But the fucks that have been put on the bench for almost two generations are not the kind that put Constitution above their own desires. That is a very recent trend. Hell, even Reagan’s picks for judges tended to wander over to the dark side.
Welcome back Tulpa.
It’s just further proof that I’ve never voted for a winner in an election.
A Judge Nap reference! you’re in good company. (Where’s he been lately, anyway?)
Zooming with his Lincoln Project buddies.
Eh, I still like his Con Law lectures.
All the left have to do now is to take their ability to not count votes to the state and local levels and we’ll have a deep blue country in no time.
I believe we should also have a new law that lets you change your vote going back at least 300 years in your ancestry. Hey, my great, great, great grandpa voted for that constitution thing and now I’m against it, let’s get rid of it, it’s racist anyway.
Gotta hand it to them. It worked. COVID leading to mail in ballots means you can sit there and harvest them for months. Send a flyer with a Trump quote and a SASE, and that low info Dem will strike a blow in between Netflix binges while they’re locked down collecting their COVID check.
I do have a thought re: AZ though. Is it possible that Doug Ducey remaining on Team Lockdown fucked the GOP in AZ? DeSantis’s Florida had no trouble coming in big for Trump.
Population of AZ is changing rapidly. AZ was sparsely populated. Maricopa County had the most far-right, scary Nazi wannabe sheriff in the country. He got booted by the electorate who were moving in to the area back in 2016, so things were already changing. They have changed quite a bit more in the last 4 years.
Yellow dog democrats from Cali are a dominant factor now. Urban voters dominate now. Used to be rural cranks who live in trailer homes dominated. You know… our sort of folk.
I think with Ducey it’s more a “symptom” than a cause. The Arizona Republican party is badly broken, with Joe Arpaio probably being the single individual most responsible for that. All of the worst parts of Republicanism were concentrated in that carbuncle of a human being (Harris actually reminds me of him). The Goldwater “libertarian” streak got eviscerated and what was left was Team Red’s version of the culture war (God, the military, the police and close the borders). And so the party leadership is solid big government Republicans.
And if you’re in favor of big government, you got an entire other party that’s better at it than you are. In short, Republicans are losing in Arizona because they deserve to,
Martha McSally is one of the worst modern senate candidates in recent history. They kept trying to make her happen and it never made sense.
But understand why these Senate seats are open: John McCain finally died, and Jeff Flake got run out of office by his fellow Republicans for being insufficiently a Team Red Culture Warrior. I have a world of problems with Jeff Flake and he’s no Rand Paul, but it’s hard to imagine he wasn’t in the top 10% of senators from a libertarian perspective.
McSally wasn’t a mistake by Arizona Republicans, McSally _is_ Arizona Republicans. The goal isn’t for “Republicans” to win, the goal is for _them_ to win.
Team Trump is saying they are going to take AZ by 50,000 if their mail in margins hold.
If Trump loses, the Republican NeverTrump aparatchiks will claim to have been vindicated, and it will be back to business as usual for the Deep State.
Deep State is deep for a reason. Ain’t no removing em
The Islamists in Turkey would beg to differ.
Of course, nobody said that the ones who replace the deep state wouldn’t be worse.
The Islamists in Turkey are not out yet
The Islamists in Turkey aren’t the deep state, they’re the ones who toppled the Kemalist deep state.
ok I misunderstood.
To some extent, though not nearly as dramatic, I think the U.S. “deep state” as it exists today represents a toppling of an older “deep state” as it existed in much of the 20th century. Attrition through retirement, changing cultural trends, and a massive influx of new money and jobs thanks to Bush and Obama, plus a protective legislature and judiciary, has supplanted the 60/40 Dem/GOP split “good old boys’ club” of old with the 80/20 Dem/GOP split “holier than thou” cadre of government workers today.
Once all of the bickering identity groups manage to completely exhaust themselves, the only thing left is the will to power. The islamists have that in spades (fortunately for the rest of the world, they don’t have much else.)
They wear all black and smoke clove cigarettes?
The most infuriating part of all of this.
This election should have been a referendum on the professional civil service which, four years ago, decided that it should be in charge.
If Biden is confirmed, the nomenklatura have won, forever, or at least until collapse.
The reason the Right is doomed in this country is that they are forced to fund their enemies. When you look at the money that funds the Democrats, huge chunks of it are just laundered tax dollars. The biggest Dem donor in the country is the NEA. Conservatives pay 10k a year in property taxes to have their children brainwashed by leftist union teachers.
A Republican voter spends 40% of his income funding the Democratic Party, and then he has 60% of his income to spend on his family.
^^^^
As you’ve well pointed out in the past, the Democrats campaign like it’s 1880. There’s no welfare state, there’s no income tax, the labor movement is powerless against the Pinkertons, women and minorities don’t have the vote, we’re one wrong move away from slavery being a real political issue again, etc.
With a narrative like that on their side, what do facts matter?
I had this discussion with a couple of traditional conservatives.
The more professional of the group are in the “we need to move on at some point” camp.
I’m in the “if there is no reckoning over the Russia spying thing, we are doomed” camp.
And we’ve put the guy who was involved in using the FBI against his enemies in power.
At least Kamala Harris would never do such a thing……
Cant even trust local media. Apparently local Dallas affiliate said Trump won TX ‘narrowly’. But Trump is the dictator. Truly going to be an interesting 4 years.
I’ve mentioned this before but I’m essentially a principled “cosmotarian.” My whole social network and life is blue. All my friends, all of my work colleagues who I get along with. And certainly my disposition and general personality would have people assume I’m a solid Democrat. I have zero use for Republicanism as practiced by the Ted Cruzes of the world. I’m an atheist punk rocker who detests war, thinks the fetishization of the police and military is dangerous and disturbing and deeply distrusts “authority.”
But I don’t like being told what to do, and have enough principles to therefore understand that I shouldn’t go around telling other people what to do either. And that point of view is not welcome in the current Democratic party and, as of 2020, apparently not welcome in the Libertarian Party (“you must be actively anti-racist”). It probably is only sometimes tolerated in the Republican party out of necessity. What am I supposed to do?
My right to self-determination shouldn’t be up for a vote. But it is and I’m pissed.
I am hoping a fight to get the LP back to a big tent* thin libertarianism.
*you can be a thick libertarian if you want, but that isn’t the only way to be.
Do what Tundra and I are doing. Acknowledge its too late for us, maintain the Samizdat, and ensure the light doesn’t go out for the next generation. The wheel will turn. Eventually.
The calendar is a blessing in so many ways..
OK, now what? Jefferson and Madison (and many others) warned us of the party system. We see 2 MN counties now control the electoral votes. When things don’t work quite so well for the elected people (i.e. the money is gone) and the voters of all colors figure it out what’s gonna happen.?
Florida is wanting $15 an hour minimum now. That will give everyone a livable wage, right? Moving is not an option because the new proposed location can’t keep the strap hangers out (see TX and AZ).
I cannot believe that passed. So dumb in a service industry state.
Of course it passed. Minimum wage ballot measures _always_ pass. It’s why politicians love the minimum wage so much: it is staggeringly popular with the electorate. That it’s abysmal economics usually comes up on page three of any intro to economics textbook, but what difference does that make?
It’s why things like that shouldn’t be up for vote.
Dumb-ocracy!
“maintain the Samizdat”
Except the self-publishing is being censored.
Maintaining a corpus isn’t the same as disseminating it widely. I’m just talking about preserving it for when things change.
Serious question: How much longer do you all think Joe will last?
My family recently had to deal with my beloved uncle succumbing to Alzheimer’s, and how quickly it accelerated after his first bad dip absolutely stunned me. I’m talking about a gradual decline through a few years where he’d occasionally forget names or why he entered a room to figuratively dropping off of a cliff over the course of a few weeks. It was incredibly sudden and devastating. I don’t think that very many Democrats truly comprehend exactly what they have wrought here.
They don’t care to understand.
That’s why there is a spare.
I think his health problems have been overblown but if he doesn’t last it’s actually good for republicans.
Kamala Harris will not win in 2024 and will probably poison america against the democratic party.
Biden will be blocked and harassed by republicans at every turn in the courts and republicans control the senate.
This.
Also, I think with a president Biden, the Rs will take back the House in 2022. I know the Ds will try to use their new playbook, but the courts will push back.
On the other hand, if Trump wins, the Ds will take the Senate and hold the House in 2022.
Kamala Harris will not win in 2024
Why not? If she’s the incumbent, that means she won in 2020.
republicans control the senate.
Do they? Its looking like, what, a one vote majority, maybe two, with Romney, Snow, and Murkowski. And assuming Biden takes office, without a President to help keep them in line.
The mainstream media and deep state just carried a senile old man to the presidency. If (when) Joe goes down, she’ll be elected the first woman (with the benefit of have dark skin no less) to be president.
Biden’s job is over after today. It’s over before he’s even sworn in. Far left radicals are now in complete control of the dem party. Doesn’t matter which sock puppet they put up as a front, it’s the same game, communism.
I’m one of the few who thinks he will last. All he has to do is make speeches and rubber stamp what the rest of the party tells him to do. The real work will be done behind the scenes by the existing and new bureaucrats who will be completely unchecked.
Given some of the video I’ve seen of him trying to do just that during the campaign, I can’t believe that he’ll make it through many of the always-televised-live speeches (State of the Union, et al) without going off the rails.
What happens after that, who knows?
I personally feel sorry for him, knowing that his only shot at history is winning, then leaving office before 39 days, to beat Tippecanoe’s record.
If Biden bows out before the mid-terms, I would expect a red wave bigger than the Clinton or Obama mid-terms. Harris will not win in ’24, and saying she will because of Dem shenanigans is the same BS that Trump was planning as an excuse in ’16 (until he didn’t need it).
He sounded drunk last night as he gave a pep-talk to a car.
I’ll say two years. Harris for 10 years.
Down the street from me is a guy with early-stage Alzheimers. There is a Biden sign in the yard.
The left doesn’t give a fuck.
That said, my father passed away in the early summer from that horrific disease. Biden is on a lot of the same tragectory.
over 350 comments before 10:30 Eastern? Wow. Don’t you people work?
*proceeds to read all the comments instead of working*
No I don’t. I’m in the middle of interviews with a bunch of places. They all seem to be waiting for this election to be over before making hiring decisions – so I won’t be working for a while.
Good luck and hopefully find an employer that lets you move out of this state.
On the Blindly Partisan scale, we’ve gone from where a mentally competant but overly liberal Democrat can suffer a total electoral landslide and lose 49 states, to where a Democrat in obvious mental decline with a campaign page just shy of the Communist Manifesto, can be in a near deadlock electorally.
Their opponent was Donald Trump. One of the dumbest jackasses to ever be elected.
a. Nobody can become POTUS if they are stupid.
b. Nobody can become POTUS without being an amoral bastard.
If you believe otherwise, you really need to ask yourself why you think so.
Nobody can become POTUS if they are stupid.
Err, Biden?
He was a bit to successful over his career for me to think he is stupid.
I think he was mediocre with a certain low cunning, and his obvious decline has taken him into stupid territory.
well mental decline is a different matter. A different category than stupid.,
“certain low cunning” is a synonym for “smart, but I don’t like him”
Nah, a certain low cunning is not the same as smart, in my mind. Besides, whatever edge Biden may have once had is gone, baby, gone.
He’s just stupid now.
I ask myself, which is more likely?
–a stupid person succeeds against a field of intelligent, ruthless opponents, some of which are literally willing to murder you to win or:
–my opinion of a person’s stupidity which is based entirely on curated presentations of their behavior is in error.
Seriously you all are sounding like some of the democrat whiners from my social media last night.
You really believed donald trump was gonna unwind the deep state?
i also have to be honest here: i don’t think democrats cheated really or did anything that outrageous to win.
Mostly, I agree. If PA has a bunch of unpostmarked ballots, I disagree.
The biggest thing was changing the method of voting to get low effort voters to vote. I don’t think encouraging low effort voters, in general, is a good idea.
This is probably true.
But they signaled hard their intentions to steal the election.
Several states decided to send out mail in ballots earlier than allowed by law to people who did not even request them. California went to send them to all residents, not even citizens or registered voters. This was initially done without legislative authority in each case. After some challenges, many states changed what they were doing, and some others changed the law.
The clear intention was to get those low effort voters and enable ballot harvesting. But what about those mass mailed ballots? That’s … questionable. AZ sent ballots out to all voters. We are assured that there can be no issue. But people report receiving multiple ballots, ballots for people who used to live there and ballots for people they’ve never heard of. They also come color coded on the outside, to let you know if the voter is registered republican, democrat or independent. No opportunity for shenanigans in that….
Whether they actually had to use the opportunity or not, the intentions are pretty clear to me.
All?
You really believed donald trump was gonna unwind the deep state? – I did not.
i also have to be honest here: i don’t think democrats cheated really or did anything that outrageous to win. – I am not sure it was massive cheating but would be surprised if no shenanigans took place with all the mail voting. Maybe on both sides.
You don’t find it concerning that every battleground state with a Dem gov announced a pause in counting once the counts showed Trump was winning? And then reversed the trend in every single instance when counting resumed?
It’s pure fraud. Call it what it is.
Doesn’t matter, whatcha gonna do about it? Not being facetious but realistic. Vote ’em out?
The deep state doesn’t care.
^^^^
” i don’t think democrats cheated really or did anything that outrageous to win.”
Do you mean
“The Democrats didn’t cheat at all”
or
“The Democrats didn’t cheat any more than they usually do in Philly/Detroit/Milwaukee/etc etc”
The latter.
I want fraud and shenanigans scrutinized and studied but it appears that Trump just wasn’t….. quite… popular enough this time around to overcome whatever advantages the democrats might have.
I think that’s a fair take. I think the bigger issue was the mail in ballot. Millions of people on lockdown, watching the Telescreen, getting the hatred of Bad Orange Man beamed in, with the COVID Death Clock running…..and all they have to do is check the box for Normalcy, Decency, and Competence.
But there absolutely is fraud, and it a state comes down to ~20k votes, it’s fair to cry foul. Just because it’s “standard Philly politics” doesn’t mean it’s not dirty.
It’s not a coincidence that the Republican governed swing states were able to quickly and clearly count and report.
So really, what you are saying is most people can’t vote competently.
I agree.
Yeah the propaganda advantage of the Democrats with their control of the media and culture only works if you can get them to come to the polls…..but what if you mail a ballot and the guy can vote for Democrats because Orange Man Bad while hes waiting for his Uber Eats?
The next step will be Vote By App, because exercising the franchise should totally be as easy as going on PornHub.
It’s always ‘who counts the votes’ that’s important.
Until Universal Franchising is eliminated people (us) will always vote our pocketbooks. Human nature
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3901227/posts?page=8228#8228
100k+ votes added and not a single one for DJT?
Bullshit.
Assuming that’s real, looks to me like 130K votes got added for Biden, and not a single vote for any other candidate.
Which is statistically impossible.
Maybe they sorted them into piles, and they’re just about to report 129K for Trump? I mean, that’s possible, right… um…
Nevermind.
“Ooops the Trump pile fell into this metal box filled with weights and while it was being transported by boat to the Special Republican Counting Site it fell into the lake.”
It’s just like the testing labs where 100% tested positive for covid.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/voter-fraud-wisconsin-massive-dump-100000-ballots-biden-sudden-appear-overnight/
Looks like TGP is running with it.
i also have to be honest here: i don’t think democrats cheated really or did anything that outrageous to win.
One thing that can be said for sure is nobody is getting a Reaganesque landslide. The country is too divided, though of course some states and localities don’t seem divided at all. Maybe in a future election, but certainly not in this one. The outcome, whatever it is, is going to be close. While that magnifies the impact of targeted and effective fraud, I think we assume too much if we think that’s the determining factor; ultimately, it is chance that determines the outcome in a close race. For all the EC does to balance big and small states, winner-takes-all plus the existence of so many “battleground states” adds volatility to the process.
The Democrats do have structural advantages. Many of them have gotten much discussion here. But the biggest structural advantage they have is that we have not actually repeated the 1970s. Most people still live in safe neighborhoods, despite the riots. The economy has not entered stagflation, despite COVID-19 and the (over)reaction to it. Everybody either stayed employed, got paid with real dollars to stay unemployed, or believes they will soon be reemployed. The MMT folks have so far been proven right, in the main. We can eat our cake and have it too, at least until we can’t. But we’re not there yet and nobody knows when, exactly, we will be.
Decent thread on polling:
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/1323961634914750466
The left has read their Orwell and found it to be a fine plan for running the world.
On the list of “doublethink” news item / talking points, we now have as fact: There has never been any election fraud.
This includes LBJ. Now, all my life, everyone, left and right acknowledged that LBJ got his ticket to the Veep spot because he could deliver votes by … uh, alternate means. All my life, everyone has acknowledged the Daley political machine in Chicago. It was just common knowledge, undisputed on the left or the right. Chicago steals elections.
These are now “fact checked” as false.
NBC was just telling me that there never has been any election fraud in the US. They said there have never been serious allegations of fraud. All my life, I’ve been told that Nixon could have contested the election with Kennedy and might have won… he conceded to save the country from such stressors. Daley delivered the state by finding out how many votes he needed in Chicago to win.
Sound familiar?
But the news is assuring me that this never happened. The same people who would have discussed this with a laugh 10 years ago… people like Chuck Todd. Nope. Never happened. Nobody ever had such thoughts. Fact check.
This could well be true, and I have no way of knowing the extent of fraud or shenanigans.
I am actually quite concerned about those things.
But none of these new schemes are why trump may not get wisconsin or michigan.
they simply tallied up the votes for populated blue counties , which always come in late and always had those margins to win for democrats. there’s nothing especially unusual about these tallies. Hillary’s margins were if anything greater.
If Trump loses it’s probably not because of these shenanigans.
Unless the 130k dump above is real, then it isn’t just the blue counties coming in late.
I somewhat understand Nixon’s paranoia, latterly.
I spent the first 31 years of my life in Cook County. You don’t have to tell me.
It happens all the time, I’m certain in deep Red areas as well, though the fact Repubs generally don’t control large population areas makes it hard to generate huge numbers for them. They most certainly would if and when they can. They’re not any less of monsters than team blue.
It’s quite simple, figure out which registered voters are absolutely not going to vote and figure out how to get their votes into your column. The most effective way to do that changes as the voting methods change. These technically aren’t “fraudulent” votes: it’s a legal vote from a “registered voter.” With no way to know whether it was actually this person who cast this vote (or what the circumstances were that caused this person to cast this vote or even to register in the first place), you can’t legally call it “fraud.”
Of course that’s exactly what it is. It has nothing to do with the “will of the electorate” and everything to do with graft and corruption. Human beings left to their own devices don’t willingly submit to 125% voter turnout in any precinct in the world. No group of people is that civic minded.
“They most certainly would if and when they can. They’re not any less of monsters than team blue.”
Indeed, and before the New Deal coalition, they had some urban political machines that did just that. Enoch Johnson the boss of Atlantic City was a Republican.
The Rural Party will always have trouble with it, because when you have a precinct of 2000 voters run by the local pastor’s wife, there simply aren’t the numbers to commit fraud.
The Urban Party is the only Party that can successfully manufacture ballots because they have the thousands of registered voters that can vote Urban Party even if they forgot to come to the polls.
Indeed, though I’d also say the Urban Party has the benefit that, if you include suburban with urban, the country is decreasingly rural. “The parties switched” is ahistorical nonsense for many reasons, but perhaps the biggest one is that geographically speaking no such “switch” occurred. In the 1920s, the North, both urban and rural, went for Republicans, and the South, both urban and rural, went for Democrats. Your party affiliation was determined by the state you lived in. The biggest legacy of Johnson vs. Goldwater is to shake up that system entirely and eventually lead to where we are today. Now both parties exist as serious factions in almost every state. Your party affiliation is determined by the county or municipality you live in. Urban vs. Rural is a broad and not entirely accurate gloss of the situation, but it is way more accurate than “the parties switched”.
The left has read their Orwell and found it to be a fine plan for running the world.
It should be noted that Orwell was not a prophet – he took his inspiration for 1984 from the Communists in Spain that he saw up close and the Communists in Russia that he saw from afar. The doublethink and memory holes were merely descriptions of the way the Communists treated information.
VOTER FRAUD is a myth, and has never been referenced previously.
Lookit mister conspiracy theory over here.
Honestly, it’s a decent area control game that uses votes as the proxy for score.
We’re so much smarter, more advanced, and more capable than those racist idiots who came before us. We’re not susceptible to the base instincts of mankind, and have entirely remade ourselves, through no real effort of our own, into finer stuff than the human race of ages past.
Which is also why we relied on paper ballots sent through the mail and counted by hand. Because, you know, we’re so smart and modern.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/gop-women-flip-four-congressional-seats-democrats/
Have some good news.
Republicans have narrow leads in two Iowa districts with less than 10% of the vote left to count. I think one will go to Republicans (Hinson over Finkenaur (incumbent).
The Libertarian candidate cost David Young and we are unfortunately stuck with Axne. I’m now sure most Iowans understand just how f’ed-up Des Moines has become.
Did Young reach out to libertarians?
I meant that as a statement of fact – not a challenge to the Libertarian candidate.
NY Times just declared Hinson the winner. So another district flipped to Republican.
Nice. And one of them took out Donna Shalala
so republicans will gain house seats?
It’s looking like it. Won’t gain the House, but will narrow the margins (up +5 so far). Might even manage to come out with a wash in the Senate (currently -1).
Um… they left out Nicole Malliotakis in my district.
Mace (far right) is my district.
I mentioned the other day that there were zero Trump signs on Sullivan’s Island but plenty of Mace ones.
Based on mail her opponent sent, apparently she is pro-FAIR tax. I am not a fan, but it is better than what we have now (with an amendment preventing income tax from coming back).
OK, deplorables. Better stock up on booze and toilet paper. And don’t plan on going out of the house after Jan, because you won’t be allowed to.
At least no eel pie. Could be worse.
No eel pie, yet. I’m still going to figure out a way to make you eat eel pie before, well… before something!
Eel pie will be a luxury, a holiday dessert. Buying up eel futures as we speak (type)
I told Mr Mojeaux if Biden wins he can kiss his 401k goodbye.
to be fair, all this financial independence is inefficient. You should be wholly dependent on the state for your pension.
The idea of floating a loan against my 401k, cashing it out in precious metals, then letting the loan default (or the government seize it) is interesting…
I’m seriously thinking about taking out a loan against mine so I can at least get a little of it before it goes to zero and the commies seize the rest for reparations and fairness.
We can withdraw it tax free until the end of the year because of COVID and pay it back within 3 years or just have it counted as regular income if we don’t.
Having the loan out against it was proving not good for our family.
“Having the loan out against it was proving not good for our family.”
I stayed up too late. Not sure what you mean by that?
My husband’s paycheck was greatly dimished by loan repayment.
Still more interesting. A lot can happen in three years.
Well, when it comes to that, I won’t worry about needing that 401k. I’ll be taking some bastards out before I go. There are trip-wires after all.
I’d think that would be supremely stupid and tantamount to political suicide.
Now, set up a tax advantage to redirect some of your 401k into socially “beneficial” funds, …
Holy fuck.
https://twitter.com/MattMackowiak/status/1323992377380450309
I don’t think there is any doubt they are cheating in several states. Whey it is so concerning is that they are throwing the entire election process into chaos and it’s OK with them. They’ll burn it down if they have to. After all, to get communism you have to start with a really fucked up situation. You can’t get communism starting with a functional and prosperous society.
An update gives Biden 100% of new votes
That seems…unlikely.
They could disguise it a little better than that.
This is what happens when you hand an important task off to an intern at one in the morning.
Ha! Of course.
Look, I didn’t vote Trump but acknowledge that he was better than Joe. Either way, I haven’t felt a damn thing about the presidential election. But now that the fix is in and out in the open, being black-pilled is actually kinda amusing this morning. The citizenry will put up with anything, there is no republic, and I can do nothing but chuckle at it all.
And now that tweet is being “disputed” and hidden from view unless you click through multiple times.
Wow indeed.
Different topic.
I finished my Hallmark binge watch and went on to Warrior Nun, which is totally up my alley. Girls kicking ass! Demons! Theology! Divine intention! Oh and the Catholic church is set up to be the villain but, um, ended the season being right and not the bad guy (or not quite as much), so shocking end to the season. Bad part: There’s only one season as of yet. Also the generic Big Corporation was also not the bad guy. Am please. Would continue.
@Neph, I tried to get into The Magicians but for some reason it didn’t hold my attention (except for the hot dot-Indian d00d) (shut up, he’s too young for my taste). I may or may not go back to it but honestly, I don’t remember where I left off.
I would do a retro rewatch of Forever Knight if it didn’t cost so fucking much on Amazon.
But! Traders is free and damn, those Canadians make some fine TV (*koff* Coroner *koff*).
I’m done trying to derail the topic now. I reserve the right to try again.
I tried to get into Warrior Nun, but it hasn’t pulled me back yet. Same for Magicians.
You seem susceptible to the same “guilty pleasure” shows that I’m susceptible to. Things like those WB shows where they have interesting looking hot teen/20something people in a superhero/supernatural story. Lois and Clark. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. etc. Stuff that I watch, but without being proud of it.
I’m waiting for “lost in space” to come back. Dr. Smith is the most deliciously evil bad guy.. She’s a perfect narcissist who would kill her own sister if it helped her out. Maybe the best bad guy ever… well, except maybe Neegan from Walking Dead. That dude is fabulous.
Actually, no, not generally. I have seen maybe 6 episodes of Buffy, none of Lois&Clark and all the ones you said or hinted at.
I am back to my hobby of cross stitching and I need something to watch while I’m doing it. That looked interesting because of the religious aspect and as the regular Zoomies can tell you, I love theology.
The Hallmark was a deep aberration for me. I needed something very light and frothy as a palate cleanser after Cobra Kai, The Boys, and Preacher, all of which are also right up my alley.
You were right about the Boys. It came in strong down the stretch.
Haven’t seen Preacher. Have to look it up.
Season 4 of the Expanse is really good. I’m happy they ditched the magic of season 3.
I liked the one season of The Expanse that I was allowed to watch for free.
Tulip rec’d the Beforeigners, but that’s on HBO Max which we technically HAVE, but I would have to watch it on my tablet or phone (which is how I watched a few episodes of Dr Who [5/10 do not recommend] which is not conducive to stitching.
I figured you’d have some flavor of Amazon prime what with being a publisher and all.
No apologies needed. It took the girlfriend half way through the first season to really get hooked, and Penny is a dick.
At least he’s not Todd. Fucking Todd…
I made it through the Boys season 2 recently with the girlfriend, and have to say the girl power scene was orders of magnitude better then the one in Avengers: Endgame, and burned through Helstrom (really mediocre, especially with no second season coming)
My wife and I have been watching the first season of the TV show “Evil”. This is like the X files for the religious supernatural https://www.cbs.com/shows/evil/
It’s surprisingly entertaining.
Thinking of starting that one on netflix.
I’ve got it on my list as well.
Does it have actually supernatural stuff, or we-thought-it-was-but-isn’t?
It has supernatural stuff in it but it can also be explained by dreams/hallucinations and/or wholly a sociopathic gaslighting villain.
Gaslighting is terrifying to me because I am very susceptible to it.
To me, the original The Shining, was far scarier when you just thought Jack was losing his mind. For me, once it went supernatural, it lost its fear factor.
Don’t disagree, but one thing that always kinda bugs me is the “oh, supernatural is real” and then it becomes “just kidding, that’s can’t happen ’cause SCIENCE” or something.
Goes for the other direction, too (although that’s a lot less common, I think); pick a system and stick to it!
If there’s a primary plot point or character development that depends on that, fine, but that’s the one exception I’m willing to grant.
So I loved Evil but it got a little too scary for me. See, the psychological thrillers where sociopaths who really do exist do real things get to me. Stuff with magic and demons are fine. Stuff that can be explained by a malevolent person gets to me.
Yes, people can and do do evil things because it’s fun.
I may take it up again, but it gives me the heebie jeebies.
PA Gov and Sec of State are giving a news conference – Wolfe says rest assured the election results will be “fair” but he will “vigorously defend” any attacks on the results. Yep, I feel better already.
Now remember to lock grandma in the nursing home with some COVID carriers.
Well, since we already have her ballot…
Romania passed 8000 covids a day for the first time, although no new lockdown announced yet.
I ask you all not to be downhearted.
Take a step back and look at the big picture.
Our biggest enemy; the organization that is most likely to rob us or kill us is our state government. These governments are insolvent on their own, and dependent on the federal government financially and militarily for their survival.
And the federal government is the enemy that must be destroyed to break this arrangement. Without it, our state governments would be weaker and less tyrranical.
The federal government owes its power largely to a perception by the people that it has moral legitimacy.
And this election was a big step towards losing that legitimacy.
I see many analogues to the collapse of the Soviet Union; the men of the system are sclerotic, senile and incompetent; they are powerful enough to frustrate the reformists, but not powerful enough to get the system functioning well. The Soviet Union collapsed when the people under its thumb decided to stop following its dictats.
Soon, the U.S. government will be joining its brother the Soviet Union on the ash-heap of history. No matter how the election turns out, It has moved closer towards that blessed event. And the nomenklatura are held in ever greater contempt.
To me, this is what winning looks like. I think we should be celebrating this chaos, not being depressed by it.
To me, this is what winning looks like. I think we should be celebrating this chaos, not being depressed by it. – chaos usually makes it go worse not better
^this
I agree that chaos generally makes things worse.
Which is why we shouldn’t be actively trying to create it.
But chaos is an inevitable component of an oppressive system collapsing. And the people who hate socialism the most are the ones who got to experience it good and hard.
My guess is that when states/towns start to secede, it’s not going to end in a shooting war. It looks to me as if the system will collapse with a few whimpers.
My guess is that when states/towns start to secede – in 100 years?
I think you are looking past the trees and seeing a forest that isn’t there.
IF the federal government collapses after this it will be toward socialist totalitarianism, not towards libertopia.
And they are a couple of senators away from consolidating power forever through the courts.
Except that the reformists aren’t men of liberty, they’re leftists and the DSA frustrated that they can’t immediately usher in their brave new world.
Neither were the reformists in the CCCP.
Yet Russians are far freer now than they were under its thumb.
We won’t be getting libertopia. We will be getting something less awful than we have now.
Sure, we’ll be free to roam the land as peasants. Great news.
You already are a peasant. You know that, right?
I thought I was a member of the bourgeoisie,
Don’t worry, people are working hard on your demotion.
TH:
At least I’ve got some
goodfantastic whiskey to drink while watching the world burn.Nothing lasts forever, not whiskey, not youth, not politicians. Take care of yourself and family as best you know how.
We will be getting something less awful than we have now. – lol. at least you are optimistic.
So, who’s going to be our Putin, since it’s not going to be Trump?
I don’t see what you are describing as any sort of victory. A large percentage of us will not even survive it in anything more than an impoverished bare existence. And then you get a real strong man, the one the left foolishly convinced themselves was Trump.
First of all, we’re going to get locked in our homes for months, with no possibility of interstate travel. Then we’ll get taxed half to death. There will be wars all over the planet as the left try to rebuild the military industrial state back to it’s pre-Trump glory.
We’re all going to get fucked. The only thing I can do is to go waste my vote again in the midterms trying to derail the communists only to see them upping their cheating ways.
Yeah, they are going to fuck up big time and none of us will profit from that, we’re all, those of us who are not billionaires, get fucked good and hard.
I think a large enough minority won’t put up with the lockdowns much longer. And I strongly suspect that they really can’t subdue any movement of more than about 100,000 people. Freedom is a word for “nothing left to lose”.
Biden already said Fauci is going to play a big role in the new commietopia. IOW, we’re getting locked down hard and there will be checkpoints at all state borders. Don’t plan on going anywhere after Jan, because you won’t be able to.
Where are they going to get the people to man the hundreds of thousands of checkpoints needed to block roads that cross state borders?
How are they going to fund them when commerce crashes to a halt?
If people in Wyoming flout the law, what are they going to do?
Here in MA, I personally know devout Biden supporters who are engaging in illegal black market activity to get around the lockdowns. They do it to feed their families since the government has effectively outlawed their profession.
There is no way they will be able to enforce a nationwide lockdown against opposition… and there will be opposition.
“Where are they going to get the people to man the hundreds of thousands of checkpoints needed to block roads that cross state borders?”
Are you kidding me? They’ve already promised guaranteed government jobs for everyone. Shovel ready!
Sounds to me like they will be hiring people who aren’t really zealous and are doing it for the paycheck. Probably local too.
So, how motivated do you think such people are going to be to obey Biden’s orders?
tarran:
I can send you a copy of Papers Please if you’d like. It’s actually about that exact question.
The market always finds away. When goods are rationed (scarce) incentives bubble up.
Its funny how the poor Yemenis find guns and ammo, where do crack addicts get their money?
Biden already said Fauci is going to play a big role in the new commietopia.
If the Feds can’t keep drugs off the street and can’t keep states from flaunting their drug laws, they can’t lock down a populace that doesn’t want it. Maybe the people do like their cages, but Trump said no more lock downs and is on track for 48% of the vote, so I’m thinking there’s a large portion of the public that doesn’t want to be locked up.
tbh I see it going either way. It will be like the iraq war people will stop caring but the masks are here to stay forever loosely enforced by the remaining branch covidian truthers.
Yes, you are fully free when you have nothing left to lose. The guy committing suicide by cop is fully free, no one can restrict his behavior because there are no longer any levers to coerce him. He is fully free in a universe of choices that all end up in the grave. Short of that people still have something to lose and can be coerced.
Sounds like T.S. Eliot in prose.
Oh look, four states legalizing cannabis.
Just hope they legalize all drugs nationally and that you can get them for free, before they tax you to death and steal the dead pennies from your dead eyes.
So what happens to Citizen Trump? Is allowed to live an ignominious retirement in FL while pilloried in the media and history books? Or is he arrested, tried, and convicted for his crimes against the people? I’d say as a non-member of the elite, they’d break him but I’m not impressed by the competency of the deep state.
They’re going to come after him hard.
If you think Flynn got shafted, just you wait.
He’ll quickly convert and move to Israel?
Would he even need to? And if not there, I’m sure there’s some place that would love to give the ex-President of the USA asylum as a political refugee.
Russia. Its gonna be Russia, isn’t it?
You know Putin would love that, but I’d have to think (hope) Trump is smarter than that.
he’s going to prison.
For what? They went all out and couldn’t come up with anything.
Prosecuting Trump for essentially nothing is the first stage in what ultimately is the doomsday scenario. Especially if there’s even a whiff of doubt about the legitimacy of the election results. Which there is.
It’s also unprecedented, I don’t think a former president of the US has ever been charged with a crime. And while I know the Ds haven’t been too concerned about that lately they may want to think long and hard about the tit-for-tats that could start. He who is without sin should throw the first stone, and all that. At least 90% of politicians could be prosecuted for something.
My guess is if they’re going to prosecute him for nothing, they’ve already made up their minds that no future turns in political fortunes will be tolerated. It’s sort of crossing a Rubicon. But, that’s also why it becomes a doomsday scenario.
Indeed it would be crossing the Rubicon, because I don’t see how they could possibly retain power forever. When the party of Big Business and Wall Street is at the helm of an inevitable economic downturn, they aren’t going to stay in power no matter how much people formerly loved them.
they may want to think long and hard about the tit-for-tats that could start
The Dems seem completely blind to the Iron Laws, including:
Me today, you tomorrow.
Yeah, seems like really bad politics to me. Let him go out (he won’t go quietly) but keeping him around in the news is not what they want.
Not sure on that one. That would create a martyr. Better to block his (now personal) Twitter account, deplatform him at every turn, and un-person him.
Take away his pulpit, and you just have another crazy on the street corner shouting at clouds.
Looking at the states that are still undecided, if Trump carries the ones he leads (GA, NC, PA), he loses. Biden will get to 270 exactly if he carries the ones he leads (NV, WI, MI). Its over when NV, WI, and MI get called, no PA shenanigans needed.
Biden lead:
NV – @8,000 votes, but only 75% counted.
WI – @20,000 votes, with 99.95% counted
MI – @33,000 votes, with 91% counted
Trump lead:
GA – @58,000 with 99.51% counted
NC – @82,000 with 100% counted – not sure why this hasn’t been called
PA – @490,000 with 79.7% counted
I don’t see GA and NC going to Biden.
Don’t know what the odds are that Trump can pull out NV, but if he does, Biden needs PA, GA or NC to win.
Trump needs to carry GA, NC, and PA, and take NV, WI, or MI (or another state that’s been called for Biden).
1 faithless elector to make this the ultimate lulz election.
Speaking of, does anyone have a source for what the numbers are like in that one NE district that went Biden (or the one ME district that is heading towards Trump)? I’m thinking we are going to have weeks of recounts with how close it is looking.
I can’t find the breakdown for NE or ME by district. I was just looking myself.
And Sullivan drags out Flynn to next spring so Biden’s DOJ can pick up the assfucking from the corrupt Trump administration. .
“.@Twitter is corruptly censoring my post calling on DOJ to intervene to defend the rule of law. They are now also censoring the @NYTIMEs”
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1324005480948269058
“Twitter flagging a tweet that consists of a quote he gave the Times.”
https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1324011098425602048
that’s one of those “big oofs” I keep hearing about, right?
It is inception.. they flagged the tweet claiming they flagged a tweet.
Burning the system to the ground looks a wbole lot different than I thought it would.
Back in march when the lockdowns started, my wife and I had a serious talk about our plans for the year.
I confidently predicted that the lockdowns would end quickly since there was no way the state governments would shoot themselves in the foot by shutting down taxable commercial activity. Boy was I wrong!
All we can say is that the system is unsustainable, rickety and doomed to collapse; I wish I could predict precisely how it would fail so I could make money off of the inevitable.
Don’t forget that the leftists want to crash the economy, and they will. When there is no longer any hope for the peasants, they have to vote for more government handouts. And the commies have all those goodies ready and they’re free! And no one has to pay for them! Utopia!
Paper money?
Everyone knows paper notes aren’t really money. Gold pressed latium.
Cotton rag paper really doesn’t even make good asswipe.
People in Italy are still living in the zombie ruins of a once great civilization. We will do the same.
China has nuclear weapons, and a soon to be super majority of admiring commies in power in the USA.
they still rely on us to buy their rubber dog shit and produce their r&d. We educate them. If China ends up winning the cold war it won’t reign for very long.
Yeah, China is a fucking basket case as the shitshow that is COVID-19 ably illustrates. The day the announce their victory in the cold war is probably the same day the populace has enough and starts stringing them up.
Slave labor is not just immoral and unconscionable, it is also brutally inefficient. The Chinese people are people and would like to be a first world country and a great many of them see themselves as already being in one. That’s actually not good news for the CCP.
The commies have always hated the Bourgeoisie for a good reason…
Or is this the Libertarian Moment ™ for progressives?
Aye. “Not with a bang, but a whimper” is looking more prophetic all the time.
So much media (and therefore cultural milieu) about the near/far future assumes some apocalyptic event. Flood, war, disease, Skynet, etc. Makes for better entertainment, but is that what we’ll see? Maybe, maybe not.
I’m hoping that if the system is going to be burned down, it’ll be a Duraflame log, and not gasoline.
Twitter keeps flagging the President’s tweets:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324012341458075648
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324004491612618752
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323864823680126977
Oh, wow.
I mean, seriously – that does not look good at all. He’s the sitting president until at least January, and Twitter has completely locked those posts down. The share button is even disabled so you can’t add them to your bookmarks. Meanwhile, Jack Dorsey wants us all to believe that they’re an impartial organization with no desire to skew the election results. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
What could be disputed in this?
Trump was leading in many key states last night.
Almost all democrat run and controlled.
“magically” and “surprise” are descriptors of opinion and might be a stretch, but really can’t be disputed.
Pollsters got it wrong… also a fact.
Soo.. let’s flag that.
But Joy Reide is good to go?
Claiming this week that Trump won in 2016 by illegal voter suppression targeting black voters.
Not flagged.
That’s not a claim about an election that is in dispute? Hell, it is flat wrong. But good to go as far as Twitter is concerned.
But he can’t block people. Insanity.
To me, this is what winning looks like. I think we should be celebrating this chaos, not being depressed by it.
Be careful what you wish for.
I have no children, no grandchildren. I’m already headed for the door. It’s time to loot my IRA before the government does. When it it all goes down in flames, I’ll just sit in my lawn chair, pop a beer and watch the show.
Those of us about 10 years from retirement are the ones who are going to get truly fucked over.
The dems will steal most of our wealth and will make the rest worthless through inflation with their free healthcare and green new deal and the whole picnic basket of leftist commie dreams.
I think a large enough minority won’t put up with the lockdowns much longer.
Stop it. You’re killing me.
Yeah. The lockdowns appear to be widely _popular_ for some unknown reason. I really do think we’ve lost all grasp with the concept of productivity going hand and hand with wealth.
The people who matter get to work from home, the proles get put on the dole, and the rest don’t have the numbers to stop it.
Understood, but I wish people understood that when the Titanic sinks, everyone’s section sinks along with it. Someone has to produce _something_ of value.
They won’t get it until their paycheck stops. It’s human nature.
Yeah. The lockdowns appear to be widely _popular_ for some unknown reason.
An interesting note from the CNN exit polls: the 59% of people who said they work full time went for Trump (50R/48D) while the 41% who said they don’t (it wasn’t broken down further, so this includes part timers as well as layabouts) went for Biden (58D/41R). Since Trump was the no-new-lockdowns candidate while Biden kept it on the table, it looks to me like the lockdowns may be more popular with people less affected by them.
But that’s a two point margin for Trump and a 17 point margin for Biden.
What I’m _seeing_ is a populace who looks quite willing to wear a facemask every time they enter a building for the rest of their lives. It doesn’t seem to matter whether that actually makes any sense at all, the cost appears to be so trivial to them they don’t have the energy to even think about fighting back against it.
I’ve yet to run into a normal person who remembers who Richard Reid was when I explain my Richard Reid theory on how long we have to keep wearing the masks. Who knew that we would finally be from taking our shoes off at the airport once we’re no longer allowed to actually fly anywhere.
400k in investment gets you citizenship in St Kitts. With fees and family member add ons, less than $600k for my family.
That’s nice for you billionaires and zillionaires. The rest of us are staying put I guess.
I think it can be a new house – maybe, rules are a little unclear. As long as you dont sell for 5 years.
I’m predicting a boom in the admittedly tiny expat market. I will be doing my research, that’s for sure.
I’m reasonably well insulated against tax increases. I could probably do OK in a garden-variety economic depression.
What I’m not willing to stick around for, probably, is societal collapse. The question will be, when the US augurs in, will any place not be dragged down with it?
I’m becoming increasingly concerned about protecting savings against future tax increases, means testing, government edicts such as the individual mandate, etc.
ditto.
The question will be, when the US augurs in, will any place not be dragged down with it?
The US is 1/4th of the global economy. With the exception of places that have no trade or tourism, the US will be dragging everybody along for the ride.
Problem is, there’s nowhere to go unless you’re pretty wealthy.
This.
I recommend putting together a liveable transportable shelter and some food storage, and learning some kind of trade skill that you can barter with. The whole Locusts on the Horizon plan is a good and not-terribly-expensive backstop against absolute collapse.
How much extra does it cost if they give you Nevis in a package deal?
St. Kitts and Nevis? That’s gonna set you back.
I don’t know why, but i have a hard time thinking of Nevada as a “blue” state.
I guess it’s because the state gets so much of its revenue from the gaming industry, the true costs are hidden from the average Karen. And California Conservatives.
Trying waking up to the Blueification of AZ.
It does surprise me that Goldwater hasn’t crawled out of his grave.
I’d totally vote for Zombie Goldwater.
This reminds me of the Zombie Rothbard photoshop I did a few years back. Have to find that…
“They called him a racist every day for four years and he improved with every demographic except white men.”
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1323986838743207939
I don’t know if that’s true, but so far, it looks like Trump did get better with black and hispanic voters.
And Joe even got the White Supremacy endorsement
He never did have to disavow Richard Spencer.
He did better in every category including with white women than he did in 2016. White men hilariously cost him the vote.
https://twitter.com/Caesar63BC/status/1323987053437222916
Been saying for a long time, there is nothing worse than a white male prog. Fucking pussies.
But the white male progs were already voting against him back in 2016.
Is this where his Trumpian bullshit cost him? Did the long COVID summer of him being such a fucking buffoon on Twitter on press conferences piss white guys facing unemployment or the ruin of their business off?
Another thought: Did Trump’s big time effort to chase black men by blasting Biden with the crime bill cost him 5 white male votes for every one black male vote he gained? Sorry, Archie Bunker in WI, MI, and PA isn’t gonna see that video of Biden using that kind of language and think “OMG HES A RACIST I CANT VOTE FOR HIM”
This is the thing that surprises me honestly: I could not imagine there was a significant number of white male voters who voted Trump in 2016 who were turned off over the last four years. White women, yes absolutely. White women hate other white women, running a male Democrat instead of the Shrillest One I thought would swing white women back Democrat.
Oh, and it’s not the NeverTrumpers either, because they didn’t vote for him in 2016 either.
It says that there are a significant number of misogynist left male voters who voted against Hillary, and given the opportunity to vote for a male Dem candidate, did it.
That’s not a crazy theory. But the delicious irony of that is it will deliver us president Kamal in .5 years.
“This is the thing that surprises me honestly: I could not imagine there was a significant number of white male voters who voted Trump in 2016 who were turned off over the last four years. ”
Probably not. But anecdotally, there were a lot of white, male Dems who did not vote for Hillary (whether because of gender, ideology, or a combination of the two). The Dems got them back by running an old, white, male who was “safe.” Maybe his party has been radicalized, but Joe didn’t publicly endorse a lot of that.
IOW, they’re ideologically or historically Democrats who felt comfortable returning to the Ds. Kind of similar to what happened with Clinton and the Reagan Democrats.
Looking at polling internals… nothing makes sense, particularly in Wisconsin. The only explanation I have for what I saw there was that the poll was not what it was purported to be.
NYT had Biden winning narrowly among every demographic – like 51-49. Women, men, white, black, young…. the only demographic Trump was winning was old folks, 52-48. Seems… unlikely. Must have been a goofup at NYT website.
But the disparity among the black vote in various states is huge. They went all-in on race baiting here in Florida and it didn’t work. He got 17% of black men, last I saw, 11% over all. Meanwhile, Georgia is more like 8%. That’s a pretty big difference.
shy tory still applies to exit polls, especially so for blacks voting Trump.
When I checked CNN’s exit polls yesterday, they had Trump up 4 points in all minority categories (black, hispanic, asian, other) and holding steady with whites. I’m hoping this means the race card is becoming a less effective politicking tool.
it 100% is, not because people are changing their minds, but because they are dying off and the next generation has different opinions. Blacks probably wont’ vote in higher numbers for R’s, its jus that they are more likely to be disenchanted by the D next to anyone’s name than their grandparents and will just stay home.
Also, death, taxes, and the combo of Duverger’s law + median voter theorem are the only constants in this world.
Apple is one of the shittiest companies in existence. My wife’s iPhone was aging out so I bought her the new 12. Apple doesn’t send charging bricks with their phones because they “are protecting the environment from e-waste”. They did send a charging cord which is USB-C to lightning cable. All previous iPhone charging bricks are USB-A. So she can’t charge the phone without buying a brick. She wanted wireless charging so I got the new mag charger thinking it would come with a brick. Nope. So now I have to go out and buy a USB-C brick. Fuck you Apple you greedy POS company.
I’m OK with no charger, but the PR spin on it is ridiculous.
I’m Android with iPad as good tablets on Android are almost non-existent. With Apple going to USB-C PD I can finally deal with one PD enabled brick.
This guy “USB C Charger, AUKEY Omnia 65W 2-Port Fast Charge” is only slightly larger than Apple’s 20W charger and gives you a handy USB-A port too. So far I’ve really liked it.
It wouldn’t be such an issue if they wouldn’t have switched to USB-C. If you’re going to do that then send out a brick.
https://reason.com/volokh/2020/11/04/california-voters-reject-race-sex-ethnic-preferences-in-government-employment-education-and-contracting/
Interesting, that could be a watershed.
phew!
That is good news. I also saw that California voters overturned the law that made Uber drivers into employees instead of contractors. Or, at least they overturned part of that law (I think the law applied to a variety of contractors and the ballot measure only treated drivers)
Oh good. Voted yes on that and no on all else (20 seemed severe).
This is a very bad year for liberty, overall. It is only going to get worse from here. But overall I can still afford a bit of good scotch. Well not really, I just spend money recklessly for scotch.
I can’t square a Biden victory considering all things about the campaigns, including and especially the clear disparity in enthusiasm.
I have been saying for the last couple of weeks rally size does not mean much.
Well, certainly not compared to control of who counts the votes…
A person who shows up at the polls with Trump flags flying from the back of his ginormous pickup, and happily votes for same, has exactly the same vote as someone who vomits all over themselves in the polling booth from shame at having just voted for Biden.
Unless the vomit makes the ballot unreadable.
Nor the person who succumbs to the full court press of get out the vote and pulls the lever for blue not even knowing who Biden is.
I’d say the people who voted Trump cared more than the people who voted Biden. Many states just sent out mail in ballots to everyone. So there were plenty of lazy Biden voters who would have “stayed home” literally stayed home and still voted.
Yep I think fraud is a factor, but fraud is always a factor with Philly/Milwaukee/Detroit/etc. The ability to vote from your couch is huge.
Remember how polls always tried to figure out “likely voters” vs “registered voters”? Well this year, every registered voter was a likely voter thanks to mail in ballots.
It’s going to be interesting to see the breakdown on “voted by mail, didn’t vote in the last one/two/three elections”. If they ever let us see those.
I don’t mean to sound so negative that it gives the appearance I’m giving up on liberty. I never will do that. I’ll vote in the mid-terms to try to slow down the commie train for just a little longer. But the damage they can do between now and then would be horrific.
And it’s not like I didn’t expect it. The left have been playing this game for 100 year or more. Since the Bolshevik revolution, they’ve been playing a slow game here in the USA to make global communist utopia a reality.
They’ve completely taken over academia, the media, entertainment, and now they’re taking over the corporate world, the money, the very thing they claim to hate so much. But there will be no worker’s utopia. It’s more likely we get to a China like cronyism that’s far less stable than China and much more volatile.
Read the book ‘Racial Son’ by David Horowitz. If you don’t get it then, you never will.
do you mean Radical Son?
LOL. Yes.
Your typo is even more apropos today, I think 🙂
So, how much longer do y’all think this site will be up after Jan? We’re very likely to get Ellison as AG. Ponder that shit, if you can. We’re going to get every radical leftist imaginable and some that aren’t even imaginable in the new commietopia.
Does anyone believe that Biden is going to reign in these radical lefties? LOL, the senile old dumbfuck does not even know his daughter from his dead son. He’s the perfect empty suit. Empty minds are very easy to control. Just fill in the blank.
Eh. we will be fine.
Eh. We probably won’t be. But that was the case yesterday, too.
The web will be a bleak place once twitter and facebook are the only Federally Approved Truthsites in existence.
Ya’ll need to calm your tits. It ain’t over yet.
In the meantime, enjoy a good guffaw with me.
If I try to calm my tits in the office, people look at me weird…
It is unnecessary to remind me of my mild gynecomastia. I am well aware.
Pics?
Agreed Republicans will likely hold the senate. The Democrats aren’t passing anything for the next few years.
Senate Republicans are a famously weak reed without a Republican President.
But, we’ll see.
Has an incumbent ever lost when his party picked up House seats?
Mitt. Romney.
It’s a big fail, but what’s $100M to him, really?
True, but see above. Trump needs to flip a state where Biden currently leads to win. Biden only needs to hold onto his lead. And the Dems practically never lose in late counting contests, with the notable exception of Bush v Gore.
Also all the uncounted votes are in solidly blue places
As noted above, though, in 2000 the Dems were on their way to making Gore the winner, but ran out of time.
I still think he has a good chance is AZ with the votes that are outstanding. Nevada is razor thin. He still has a very healthy lead in PA. And MI and WI will go to recount. He’s not dead yet. Calm down. Worse case scenario, gridlock and a corrupt dementia president that half the country believes stole an election.
Calm down.
This.
People are acting like Trump is defender of the realm here. He’s a small, hardly noticeable chicane on the inevitable road to totalitarianism and social collapse. I don’t like it any more than anybody else that the left is being rewarded for being openly evil, but lets not act like it’s Ron Paul or Cool Cat Coolidge getting shafted here.
Cool Cat Coolidge
another H&H Extended Universe spinoff?
The POTUS has an enormous amount of power even if he can’t get anything passed through the Senate.
Trump sitting on the shitter Tweeting is a hell of a lot better than Biden signing whatever EOs get stuck under his nose.
I don’t know I live in the DMV and given the amount of animosity gov workers have for him he might actually be the defender of the realm.
Prediction.
Pubs hold the senate. No new laws are passed. Midterm elections increase pubs in the house and maybe senate. In four years, Pubs nominate well spoken libertarian candidate and he/she wins the election 55-48. ATF and DEA disbanded within first 100 days. Pentagon funding slashed 20% within 2 years. UN and NATO crumble. happy party for the rest of our lives?
this will totally happen.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEX0fbGePg" title="I'll have what she's
havingsmoking.” target=”_blank” >I’ll have what she’shavingsmoking.Meh, link works. Lost a little in translation is all.
That scene never rang true to me.
(Apologies, Mx. KTS: I’m sure you’re a lovely person.)
But the pattern is that they just never make the jump (or care) that *outside* of the cities, that isn’t needed and they don’t need to tell the rest of the state how to live.
Needed? Need’s got nuthin to do with it.
Best cherry on top for drama would be for Biden to get on camera today and either say something overtly racist, or finally keel over in front of the cameras.
Both. Gotta be both.
“I knew you niggers’d vote for me because of Caramela and di..di..did just like, look, Fat,…uuuhghhh”
They won’t get it until their paycheck stops. It’s human nature.
Or until there is no bread on the shelf.
For love nor money.