Thursday Afternoon Links of Consonance

by | Nov 6, 2025 | Daily Links | 167 comments

WHY IS SHE STILLL HERE? The mayor-elect of St. Paul, Minnesota, State Rep. Kaohly Vang Her (D) admitted earlier this year that she and her family are living illegally in the United States. Either this is performative bullshit, or she’s due consequences.

WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR PHONY BALONEY JOBS: LAPD refuses to release crime map records, says data could lead to ‘public panic.’

RELIGION OF PEACE…AND TOLERANCE: FBI foils alleged terror plot planned for Halloween. The local (Detroit) reporting doesn’t mention this, but other sources say that the suspects scouted LGBTQ+ nightclubs ahead of the planned attack. I mention that not because targeting the QUILTBAG++ makes this worse; all lives matter equally, of course. But as our own beloved Animal observed, “[t]his serves as yet another illustration of the utter stupidity of the “Queers for Palestine” people.”

NOPE, TOTALLY NOT ABOUT THE COMMUNISM: Slate (of course) predictably progsplains how dislike for Mamdani is completely about racism and Islamophobia.

THE THIRD RAIL OF MEDICAL RESEARCH: Over at Brownstone, Professor Charlotte Kuperwasser dares to explore the possible link between the ‘Vid vax and cancer. That it is professionally dangerous to even entertain this notion should set off alarms. With every passing day it becomes increasingly obvious that we need COVID truth and reconciliation tribunals.

BYE, FELICIA: Nancy Pelosi will not seek re-election. The voters of her district will doubtlessly elect someone even worse, but at least that person won’t have the seniority of Pelosi.

SPURIOUS CORRELATIONS: Completely gratuitous link to a fun and funny website.

BLUE DOGS MYSTERY EXPLAINED: No, not Democrats, but the actual cerulean canines of Chernobyl. While they were unable to capture any of the blue bowsers, one vet speculates that they were rolling in the remains of a porta potty. Dogs rolling in shit; works for me.

CONSONANCE: I’m in a very Howard Cosell / Spiro Agnew (or more likely his speechwriter) mood today. “Nattering Nabobs of Negativism” keeps running through my head.

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Tonio

Tonio

Tonio is a Glibs shitposter, linkster, writer, and editor. He is also a GlibZoom personality and prankster. Tonio is a big fan of pic-a-nic baskets. His hobbies include salmon fishing, territorial displays, dumpster diving, and posing for wildlife photographers.

167 Comments

  1. UnCivilServant

    LAPD refuses to release crime map records, says data could lead to ‘public panic.’Such a refusal should cause public panic – it means crime is out of control and the people should strom city hall and burn the mayor and city council at the stake.

    • Tonio

      You know who else Stromed a government building?

      • Tonio

        This guy.

        I got a brief look at the inside of his eponymous political machine.

      • UnCivilServant

        … There’s a reason I am not known for being a good proofreader.

      • Rat on a train

        During Thurmondor?

      • rhywun

        I got a brief look at the inside of his eponymous political machine.

        Eeew

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Q Anon Shaman?

  2. robc

    Lock picking lawyer gets repetitive after a while.

    • robc

      That is the second graph on the spurious correlations link, in case anyone was wondering where that odd comment came from.

      • Tonio

        As far as odd comments go that doesn’t even move the needle here.

      • robc

        Yes, but unless most, this one has an explanation.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Unlike

    • UnCivilServant

      Only so many lock designs out there.

      • robc

        Someone should come up with a new one he struggles with.

    • Mad Scientist

      Watch his April Fools videos.

  3. The Late P Brooks

    They hate our High Holy Days.

  4. DEG

    With every passing day it becomes increasingly obvious that we need COVID truth and reconciliation tribunals.

    If anger about the Covid Craziness mattered, Ron DeSantis would be president.

    You won’t see those tribunals.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Everyone is convinced of the righteousness of their own positions. Good luck reconciling that.

      • Rat on a train

        The Covidiocy saved or created billions of lives.

    • grrizzly

      I know people locally who still get boosted annually or even more frequently.

      • (((Jarflax

        I know some who not only do that they regard anyone not doing that as dangerously irresponsible. This idea that the mask brigade wants us to forgive and forget is echo chamber fueled wishful thinking. Most of them still believe everything they believed then.

      • slumbrew

        People locally still wear masks everywhere. Our self-appointed betters.

    • Tonio

      Thanks.

      Also, that is really horrifying.

      • Pope Jimbo

        You guys need to relax and learn to love the terrorists.

        The entire Minneapolis airport is run by the Somalis. You can’t swing a hijab there without hitting 23 of our new vibrant neighbors.

        I always roll my eyes when the TSA goons are hassling people in the security line for having 4oz of some liquid. Like the rando passenger is more dangerous than the Somali guy who had access to planes before trying to go fight for ISIS.

        Nothing bad has happened yet, so that means we are all just a bunch of scaredy cats who are afraid of black muslims.

      • (((Jarflax

        Islam has made war on every neighboring country and every non-Islamic group inside the countries they inhabit since the lying pedophile first spouted his lies in the early 600s. It is idiotic not to be wary around Islam.

      • Aloysious

        Oooh. Cultural enrichment.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    But the greatest cultural shock to the class of Republican pundits and politicians who dominate social media conversations came from the night’s biggest news: A democratic socialist was elected mayor of the country’s largest city.

    Unlike the serene sang-froid of the liberal/progressive pundit class on election night one year ago.

    • juris imprudent

      dominate social media conversations

      Certainly in reference to Bluesky, right?

    • rhywun

      the class of Republican pundits and politicians who dominate social media conversations

      lol OK then.

      • juris imprudent

        You know, from the perspective of the Marxists on twitter that Pie is always sharing with us – the world is a terribly conservative place.

      • (((Jarflax

        It still has wypipo in it, and Uncle Toms.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      In a deep blue city? They’re not so much shocked as exasperated I think.

    • rhywun

      young, charismatic idol espousing a new and exciting message for the Democratic Party

      I… wow.

      /taps the fuck out

      • Pope Jimbo

        Looks like he better be charismatic because he doesn’t have the unilateral power to make buses free

        Nevertheless, at the forefront of the issue is whether the mayor of NYC has the authority to implement such a plan over the state-run MTA. Civics experts say it is not so much about authority as it is about influence and actually having the mechanisms in place to bring the idea to fruition.
         
        The NYC mayor can appoint four people to the MTA board, all of whom represent NYC. But those four appointees are far from the majority of the 23-member board. While they have some say in decisions, in order for the city to achieve free buses, it needs gubernatorial support.
         
        “The MTA board is essentially controlled by the governor. You really need the governor on board,” said Professor Stephen Louis of New York Law School’s Center for New York City and State Law.

        So is he just that clueless about how things really work? Or is he just a pathological liar?

        I eagerly await the NYC dwellers rioting when they don’t get free bus rides.

      • EvilSheldon

        The progressives are constantly looking for another cult of personality to deep-throat. Obama, to AoC, to Fetterman, to Mandami. The names change, but the dick-sucking stays the same…

      • The Other Kevin

        I’ll stand by my comment this morning… like most people on the left, he doesn’t know how things work. And the dipshits that voted for him are just as bad. But when they fail to get what they want, they’ll blame those “obstructionists”. It will be fun when the people calling Trump a dictator complain that their mayor doesn’t have unchecked power.

      • Tonio

        Yer Holiness: Please consider this in the light of hoarders, wreckers, and Kulaks theory. Hizzoner won’t be blamed because his intentions are pure. It is those obstructionist Kulaks on the MTA board who will shoulder the blame. They will be named, shamed, and terrorized until they vote the right way.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        Don’t leave Beto and Stacey Abrams off your list of cult of personality figures Progs have deep throated.

      • Tonio

        “The names change, but the dick-sucking stays the same…”

        In my world it’s the opposite. They always call you Sir, but the skill level varies. And there is nothing sadder than getting a lazy, straight chick grade, blowjob from a homo.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Tonio:

        Yeah, I agree that something like that will be how things go.

        Why not one journalo (or even Cuomo during the debate) asked him how he could make bus rides free when he didn’t have the power to do so is the real problem.

      • rhywun

        how he could make bus rides free

        Simple. Buy everyone in the city a bus pass.

        Never mind that that also makes the subways “free” but whatever works.

      • Sean

        @Tonio

        LOL!

      • slumbrew

        So is he just that clueless about how things really work? Or is he just a pathological liar?

        ¿Porque no los dos?

      • SarumanTheWoefullyIgnorant

        IMO Hochul, the NY legislature, and the entire bureaucracy in Albany will eagerly comply with the slightest whim of the mayor-elect. Because he’s a man of peace belong to the religion of peace, and woe be those who criticize much less disobey members of the religion of peace.

  6. Gustave Lytton

    From ded thred. Think regulation is only indirectly responsible for the decline of HI agriculture. Value of land for redevelopment and cheaper production elsewhere are probably much bigger factors.

    • Fourscore

      Need more tariffs. Bring BigAg back to HI. Needs subsidies? Well, what are we waiting for?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Mills shut down. Plantations were sold off.

  7. juris imprudent

    Either this is performative bullshit, or she’s due consequences.

    It is a noble lie! You can’t hold me to your patriarchal concept of truth – I have my lived experience and MY TRUTH!

    • Pope Jimbo

      The link I posted this morning has an interesting bit in it.

      Addressing her fellow lawmakers, the DFLer appeared to admit that her father, who worked at a U.S. consulate in southeast Asia, forged documents to get his family to America. Her said she had just recently learned that information and told the chamber, “My family broke the law to come here.”
       
      Her’s statements quickly gained national attention on various news outlets and social media platforms. In response, she issued a statement walking back her comments. Among other things, Her said she is a citizen, her parents are citizens, her family “came legally as refugees of the Vietnam War,” and “I am legal.”
       
      The statement did not deny that her father forged paperwork to get her family to America.

      (Emphasis mine)

      My guess is that no one will investigate because of the shit show if it is proven true. If you proved her father really did forge paperwork and she and her whole family are actually illegal, what happens next?

      Who becomes mayor? Is the GOP really ballsy enough to deport her and her family? The media uproar would be insane.

      • Tonio

        Eek, sorry I missed that. You get an after-the-fact hat tip. Just the tip, the hat swears.

      • juris imprudent

        If you proved her father really did forge paperwork

        We could ask his relatives I suppose.

      • Pope Jimbo

        No worries Tonio. I don’t do this for the Jimmy Hat Tips.

      • R.J.

        Oh, very well.

        STEVE SMITH GIVE YOU JUST THE TIP.

      • Fourscore

        My understanding is that forgery in VN was rather common. Money talks.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Nice try Fourscore. No matter how loudly you complain, we all know your marriage certificate is legit.

  8. Pope Jimbo

    My guess is the chaste bitches of Chernobyl are the reason for the blue balled dogs there.

    • Tonio

      Oh, very well played.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Cedar Point scouted in possible terror plot, reports say

    Travis Kelce must be stooped.

    • Nephilium

      I can get behind that.

    • (((Jarflax

      You misspelled stoopid

  10. juris imprudent

    COVID truth and reconciliation tribunals

    Woodchippers optional?

    • Pope Jimbo

      I recently had this conversation:

      Proggie: They made the best decisions that they could at the time. No one knew what was going on!

      Me: Exactly! If you didn’t have overwhelming proof of how things were happening, you had no right to make such drastic edicts. You were firing people for not taking a shot that you admit was totally untested and no one was sure about.

      Proggie:

      I’m so tired of the excuse “we didn’t know anything” for why they locked people down.

      • juris imprudent

        Now, the worse one is “we had to do something”.

        OK, next time do something is you jump off a very high place onto a very hard surface.

      • Pope Jimbo

        JI:

        Yup. That is a very common retort.

        I usually counter that they could have left everything open and simply sent me a check for a couple billion dollars. That would have been something, while being just as effective and cheaper that what we did do.

      • PutridMeat

        I’m so tired of the excuse “we didn’t know anything”

        And it’s a lie. You don’t get to claim you didn’t know anything if you voluntarily put your fingers in your ears and screamed la-la-la and ostracized and condemned anyone who did open their mouth.

        For the shots, bio-distribution was known. Background infection rates (seroprevalence studies and Diamon Princess) known to indicate very low infection fatality rates. Published work on cytotoxicity of the spike protein. Part of the corona-virus (quickly mutating) family strongly recommending against vaccinating into a pandemic with a non-sterilizing (known) vaccine. And why in the world would we take anti-body production as a proxy for vaccine efficacy?

        Masks – decades of work indicating no effectiveness of N95s – let along pieces of t-shirt – against transmission of respiratory viruses. And a touch of common sense.

        Distancing/quarantine – Absolutely no evidence of efficacy. Why 6 feet? Makes no sense for an aerosol. Lock down completely absent from the entire history of ‘public health’ recommendations for airborne respiratory viruses.

        Natural infection immunity – So well established to be superior to vaccination induced immunity that it was never previously a question. And why would a vaccination targeting only a specific (cytotoxic) protein be superior to immunity induced by exposure to the full virus?

        No, if the experts “didn’t know”, they were incompetent or malevolent. If you, as a lay-person, didn’t know or at least have questions, you placed entirely too much trust in experts.

      • The Other Kevin

        This is my abbreviated opinion of how it went down.

        At first it seemed like any other corona virus, hence no panic. Then Fauci and his buddies discovered where it came from, and had an “oh shit” moment when they realized it was one of theirs, and might be something strong enough to kill off humanity. That was the start of lockdowns. Not long after, it turned out to be not as fatal as they thought. But why not take this opportunity to enact all those pandemic plans they had been working on for years and years? That got out of control, then things got politicized as they always do, and the rest is just opportunists.

      • Nephilium

        They had to shut down the trails and the parks! There were no other options!

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        I can forgive some of the decisions early on, meaning the first couple weeks, but beyond that I don’t have much sympathy for the argument.

      • PutridMeat

        had an “oh shit” moment when they realized it was one of theirs, and might be something strong enough to kill off humanity.

        Perhaps partially true. But I think the “oh shit” moment was more like, “we’ve been funding this behind the tax payers back, likely in violation of the law, how can we obfuscate our role in this and get people distracted over there to stop looking at us?”

        I can forgive some of the decisions early on

        You are more generous of spirit than I.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        No. They might have not known anything about Covid but they knew what they were doing locking the world down.

      • rhywun

        At this point the only conclusion I can draw is that the whole thing was an op intended to cause the massive chaos and disruption we got. It failed at allowing the global elites to seize the 100% control they were going after but it came closer than any of them probably dreamed possible.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        I don’t think the whole thing was an op, but I do think that a lot of people seized the opportunity to create a whole lot of dissatisfaction because it was an election year.

  11. Furthest Blue pistoffnick (370HSSV)

    Dogs rolling in shit

    We used to take our dogs (a Golden and a Chesapeake Bay Retriever) to the unofficial Minneapolis dog park on the Mississippi River just below Fort Snelling to let them run with all the other unleashed dogs that were their for the same idea. The Mississippi is infested with carp, which fishermen tend to let rot on the beach rather than release back into the river. My Golden loved to roll in rotten fish – the stinkier the better. I refused to let her in the car, so she had to walk home while the Chesie and I drove the back streets slowly – me holding on to her leash. This happened more than once.

    • Pope Jimbo

      lol Nick.

      My old mutt (half goldie/half black lab) was the same way. The stinkier the water he could find, the better. Then when you tried to hose him off with clean water in the back yard he’d roll around like you were killing him.

      “I stink so pretty!!!”

      Now when you throw a carp up on the river bank, there is usually a Hmong kid waiting to run off home with it.

      When Mrs. Holiness was pregnant, she wanted me to catch a carp because Koreans think eating raw carp while pregnant will lead to the kid being born strong with big eyes. I refused. I was pretty sure my kid would be born with whiskers and no chin.

      • Fourscore

        My weimeraner loved swimming, diving for rocks, retrieving sticks in the water. When she got tired nothing beat a good roll in fresh cow shit and try to get in the car. I’d have to wade out in the water, scrub her down and manually put her in the car, otherwise…

        She loved to lay on the floor as she and the kids were reading the newspaper. She hated the classified but couldn’t turn the page with her paws.

    • Mad Scientist

      Rolling in stinky fish AND a long walk!? Winning!

      • Tonio

        MS gets it! And don’t forget the bath. Retrievers love water, and chessies are cold-impervious.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    With every passing day it becomes increasingly obvious that we need COVID truth and reconciliation tribunals.

    Only if it includes necklacing.

    • EvilSheldon

      I’ll bring the tires, you bring the kerosene…

      • Pope Jimbo

        This is not shaping up to be very green-friendly is it?

      • Nephilium

        Pope Jimbo:

        I’ll supply some copper sulfate if you think it’ll help.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    The progressives are constantly looking for another cult of personality to deep-throat. Obama, to AoC, to Fetterman, to Mandami. The names change, but the dick-sucking stays the same…

    Not just the progressives.

    • EvilSheldon

      No, really, it is just the progressives.

      • (((Jarflax

        Meh, I hate both sides equivalencies, but after a few dozen times I was called a prog or a traitor for supporting Massie, opposing tariff fever, or siding with Elon over spending cuts, I am going to call BS on the cult of personality being exclusively prog. There’s a solid Trump worshipping core in MAGA.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Jarflax:

        I’d like to subscribe to your “pox on both your houses” newsletter.

        Way too many Trumpies out there. For fuck’s sake, there are way too many people who would canonize Ron Paul for my taste. When I first started listening to Dave Smith, it was scary how devoted he is to RP. I don’t have anything really horrible to say about RP, but there are too many of his supporters who scare me a bit.

      • EvilSheldon

        There are basically three cadres of Trump supporters. One of those cadres tends to support tariffs and oppose government spending cuts, for reasons that make logical sense even if I, personally, disagree with them.

        That’s not a sign of a cult of personality, it’s a policy disagreement.

      • Fourscore

        If you don’t like Democrats you must automatically like Trump.

        Today Trump was bragging about reducing the costs of weight loss drugs. I’m naive enough to believe eliminating SNAP would do more for weight loss and it would save tax dollars as well. A Twofer.

      • (((Jarflax

        The problem with my newsletter is that I bounce back and forth between three personae these days.

        1. I’m just going to enjoy my life as best I can and try to tune all the noise out and focus on the amazingly luxurious life we have available to us.
        2. Cranky libertarian who is sick of all politicians and knows team Red won’t actually fix anything, and that team Blue will actually break everything as fast as they can, so I guess I should grudgingly support Red.
        3. well… three should not be discussed too openly in case Preet ever comes back to power, but if persona three ever got the infinity stones a lot of expensive real estate would become very very cheap.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        As one of (((1/2))) l fully support Trump knowing that I am eligible for a space lazer.

    • Sean

      lawyer Chase Strangio

      None of this is real.

    • rhywun

      Oh brother 🙄

      I still say, remove it entirely. There is no real reason for it to be there, and removing it will quickly reveal what this is really all about.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      I was expecting Thailand…

    • The Other Kevin

      Good. That seemed excessive to me.

      • Sensei

        It was. They could have charged him with something reasonable and got a conviction.

      • EvilSheldon

        Probably not in DC.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    You know who hardest hit

    Today, there’s no pandemic. The economy is officially strong. Unemployment hovers around 4 percent, and GDP growth remains steady at roughly 2 to 3 percent. By conventional measures, the recovery is complete. Yet more than 455,000 women — including more than 300,000 Black women — have left the workforce since January.

    They didn’t leave because they wanted to. They were pushed out by policy choices, corporate inflexibility and a political climate that makes balancing caregiving and paid work nearly impossible.

    This isn’t a market failure; it’s a man-made crisis.

    Return-to-office mandates have rolled back the flexibility that once made it possible for many women to work and care for their families simultaneously. Public-sector layoffs, especially in education and health services, are hitting women hardest.

    ——-

    The U.S. knows how to address this. Paid family and medical leave, affordable child care, pay equity and flexible work policies are proven to keep women in the labor force and strengthen the economy.

    We can’t say we don’t know how to fix this. The pandemic was proof of concept. When we invest in care, make flexibility standard and value women’s labor, the economy flourishes.

    Hire the handicapped.

    • Tonio

      “invest”

    • The Other Kevin

      “political climate”
      Tapped out.

      “The pandemic was proof of concept.”
      Can I tap out twice?

      • (((Jarflax

        It says something about the world we inhabit that I initially read “the pandemic was proof of concept” and thought it was quoted from some right wing conspiratorial article claiming it was the Chinese or ZPG folks testing their method for getting to Club of Rome desired population size.

      • rhywun

        I made it to “work and care for their families simultaneously”.

        It’s so unfair!

    • Pope Jimbo

      There is a reason that so many companies are forcing workers to return to the office. Mostly because workers in the office get more done.

      Everyone knows this. You will hear a lot of squealing that it isn’t true, but in our hearts we all know that people working from home fuck off more than people in the office. There are exceptions for sure.

      I’m not saying that all remote work needs to be stopped either. It can work for some jobs for some people. But be honest.

      My guess is that most of these women found out that they liked being with their kids more than the office job. They also discovered that financially it was almost a wash. The money the made working was mostly eaten up by costs of commuting, wardrobe, hiring a maid service etc. I guess for Feminism to triumph, though, those traitors need to be forced back into those jobs.

      • EvilSheldon

        This. As someone who has spent the past 5-10 years doing a horrifying amount of remote work support…most of the claims of increased productivity from remote workers are bullshit.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The answer, as usual, is somewhere in between.

        But thinking that workers will magically work harder when no one is watching is going against a lot of historical data.

        It irritates me when people start arguing that remote work is better than in office work. Especially since the most staunch advocates of remote work are usually the laziest workers I know.

      • (((Jarflax

        ^This. I know there’s a strong core of remote work fans here, but I fully believe that if even the most rabid of them honestly examines their own work day they know that a part of the remote work appeal is precisely the ability to goof off when they feel like it. Good remote workers probably do get all their actual tasks finished, but the more administrative stuff tends to get slacked on.

      • Fourscore

        Hell, I’m so damned lazy I’m thinking of hiring a helper to help me waste time.

      • Mad Scientist

        I worked from home for 12 years. Twice a year I’d go into the office for a week, and marvel at how anything ever got done given the near constant interruptions. Even fucking around at home I got more done than being in the office.

      • Rat on a train

        I want to stay WFH. I don’t want a multistate commute.

      • slumbrew

        a part of the remote work appeal is precisely the ability to goof off when they feel like it

        I’ve worked from home for 15 years now and that’s not even a little true in my case.

        But it’s not for everyone nor every industry.

    • Fourscore

      “Paid family and medical leave, affordable child care, pay equity and flexible work policies ”

      I’m surprised some companies haven’t jumped on this and started monopolizing the business. I’m guessing the tariffs have been so successful they don’t need any more incentives to flourish.

    • Nephilium

      Where my brain keeps breaking is the people who say we need government subsidized day care, child care, parental leave, etc.

      People no longer have even the briefest thought of considering that we’re broke. We’re out of money, we need to kill all the subsidies out there, not add to them.

      • (((Jarflax

        It’s too abstract. They hear all sorts of doomsayers all the time, and yet they don’t experience doom. Prices go up, but since that happens downstream from the spending, and they don’t see the spending except the little bit that ‘benefits’ them, it doesn’t really feel like it’s the result of the spending, and there are pundits telling them to blame corporate greed. Rich Uncle Sugar can surely spare a few bucks for the thing I want, after all he gives it to all those big companies, foreigners, and dirty welfare recipients (a category that includes everyone else getting stuff, but never you getting stuff).

      • Rat on a train

        We only need the courage to tax the rich … not all rich … just the icky rich.

      • rhywun

        Duh. You just take the money from the rich people because they don’t need it.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      At least they admitted it wasn’t a market failure.

  15. JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

    The wife of one of my coworkers recently was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer despite getting her annual mammograms, most recently only a few months ago. The doctors are mystified. Not sure if they are mystified because they should have seen it earlier, or mystified because it grew so quickly. I didn’t want to pry too much. While I’m skeptical of the idea that the vaccine causes turbocancer, this case makes me wonder.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The mammograms failed?

      The docs are groping for answers?

      * Seriously, sorry to hear about your wife’s buddy. Cancer sucks big time.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        According to my coworker, the quote from the doctor was “How did we miss this?” That could be interpreted as “It’s obvious from her earlier mammograms that there’s a problem and the radiologist missed it” or “How did it grow so fast that it wasn’t visible on the mammogram even a few months ago?” I’m not sure which interpretation is right.

    • PutridMeat

      While I’m skeptical of the idea that the vaccine causes turbocancer

      Did you read Tonio’s link? Not a passive/aggressive ‘accusation’, just a curiosity about what your skepticism is based on, or more correctly, how deep is your skepticism? There are very plausible mechanisms for the vaccination leading to increased cancer and at least decent observational/correlation studies indicating that this is something to look at and some more clinical work, e.g. vaccine spike present in tumors in several case studies (doesn’t indicate causation of course). So while I might cast myself as ‘skeptical’ of the casual link, I’d be using skeptical as possible but as of yet unproven. But to me mind just as likely (if not more so) than not.

      There’s video of a talk by Kevin McKernan on DNA contamination that touches on oncogenic risks from a recent conference. I don’t think it’s available outside of Malone’s substack (linked), at least I haven’t found it or other talks from that conference elsewhere.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        I did read it. One reason I’ve been skeptical is that I just don’t see a mechanism for it. That article is the first time I’ve seen some of the ideas put forward.

      • Raven Nation

        “studies indicating that this is something to look at and some more clinical work,”

        This is the point that gets me. My wife is completely convinced that the covid (& some other) vaccines are causing turbocancers. Me, not as much. BUT, there has been a rise in cancers and the establishment’s response is “shut up.”

        At the very least, wouldn’t it be worth a study to see if there is an increase or it’s just an artifact? And, if it’s for real, an examination of possible mechanisms? But no, it’s head-in-the-sand time again.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        There have been a lot of things worth studying that have been shouted down: HCQ, Ivermectin, turbo-cancers. I’m not sold on any of them, but the vehemence with which they are attacked makes me suspicious.

    • Sensei

      To you and Putrid – I wonder if this is the reason I suddenly saw this in the WSJ.

      Operation Warp Speed Aimed at Covid and Hit Cancer

      Melanoma patients who got an mRNA vaccine for the virus saw median survival times double.

      See, it’s not all bad!!!!!!

      • PutridMeat

        The cancers correlated with vaccines are largely colon, pancreatic, breast, lymphomas. That maybe has to do with bio-distribution. Here’s some discussion. Not very much detail added (and don’t tell Ozzy sp? about the p-values!), but one can find links to the original work there.

        I’m very glad to see that this sort of question is now become possible; the work has been done for many years, but largely ignored or actively suppressed and still largely is. Hopefully, we can get a real answer and it will turn out to be wrong.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    I can’t believe it took more than thirty minutes to kick that assault with a deadly sandwich case out.

    • Sensei

      In some different places they’d get a conviction.

  17. The Other Kevin

    Today Trump signed an EO making Ozempic and related drugs coved by Medicaid/Medicare. Didn’t the Dems want this? Yet another thing they were for until Trump said something.

    While I hate those drugs, I am now convinced they are the only hope for my eldest (and countless like her). She has absolutely no interest in taking care of her health. But she could be convinced to get a shot once a month, and now her Medicaid covers it. Too bad she ran off with that guy she met on the Internet.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Look at Mr. Big Gym hating on the Ozempic!

      • The Other Kevin

        Guilty as charged.

    • Nephilium

      My work health plan is going to start covering it next year for obesity. From memory, you needed to have a BMI of 32+ and enter a counseling program (that is free, and already available to us) for weight loss.

      Personally, I’m slightly worried about long term side effects that may start cropping up, so I’ll avoid it.

      • Fourscore

        Is there a warning as to the side affects?

      • The Other Kevin

        The side effects do worry me. But my SIL had been handling my kid’s health care, and she convinced me that those side effects are worth the risk for someone who has absolutely no control over her eating. Last check my kid weighed 350, and now that she’s out on her own I don’t even want to think about how much candy and fast food she’s eating every day.

      • PutridMeat

        There are already short term side effects; loss of lean mass (which is not good for long term health outcomes), intestinal damage. It seem they are a short term possible aid in learning how to manage food intake, both quantity and quality. Expecting them to be a long term solution is a fools errand.

        I think Ben Bikman has some of the best takes on it: method of action, risks and optimal use. This is also a good one (lots of repeat information) on the later topic.

      • Ted S.

        I’d be more worried about how much it would make my rates go up.

    • Ted S.

      Look at Mr. Big Gym hating on the Ozempic!

      He’s the one who wants to be with you.

  18. Pope Jimbo

    Won’t anyone think of the Indians?

    Proggie article about THE U of M not getting that sweet full tuition from Indian international students anymore.

    Now, enrollment data from the University of Minnesota show that changes to the visa process resulted in a significant drop in new students from India — one of the top home countries for U of M international students. New Indian international student enrollment at the U declined by more than a quarter this fall compared to last year, Sahan Journal’s data analysis shows.
     
    Overall, international student enrollment at the University of Minnesota is relatively stable this year compared to last year, with a decrease of 1%. But new international student enrollments dropped by 9% overall — and new international students from India declined by 27%.
     
    The sharp decline in new students from India is an outlier, data show. Enrollment from many other top home countries for U international students, including South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam, fell at lesser rates and affected fewer students. New student enrollment from China — which sends by far more international students than any other country to the University of Minnesota — increased marginally this year.
     
    The targeting of international students on grounds of speech revealed the vulnerability of visa holders under Trump and sent shock waves across India. The Trump administration has revoked at least 6,000 student visas this year, including several hundred for “support for terrorism,” language the administration has previously invoked to describe pro-Palestine speech.
     
    A mainstream Indian newspaper recently reported that many Indian students no longer find the United States an appealing option. The Guardian reported that Indian students hoping to pursue studies abroad were shifting their focus to Germany and other European countries. This August, 44% fewer Indian students traveled to the United States compared to the previous year.

    • Nephilium

      I can top that. There’s some apartments being foreclosed on downtown. There were stories that the foreclosures were due to Trump causing foreign students to not enroll in CSU.

      Later stories showed that there had been growing vacancies in the building, costly renovations, and a floating loan that had an interest rate jump up recently. But it was Trump what done it!

    • Ted S.

      Dot, or feather?

      Either way, I won’t think of them.

  19. Aloysious

    What a coincidence.

    I’m feeling kind of inconsonance myself this afternoon.

    • R.J.

      I was just feeling incontinent.

      • (((Jarflax

        *strolls by with an insouciant sneer

      • Aloysious

        It’s a shitty feeling.

    • Ted S.

      Try feeling invowels instead.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    What should be plainly obvious

    Plainly stated, the creation of “minority opportunity districts” under the Voting Rights Act directly corresponds to the creation of Democratic-leaning districts. This practice violates the Equal Protection Clause by presuming uniform political behavior within racial groups, while simultaneously evading scrutiny by invoking the Voting Rights Act as a shield.

    Legislatures and commissions thus manipulate racial data not to protect minority representation, but to secure predictable partisan outcomes. Traditional redistricting criteria — such as compactness, respect for communities of interest, and geographic coherence — are systematically subordinated to racial considerations.

    Just because race influences political outcomes doesn’t mean that all people of one skin color should be grouped into a geographical region by the political strategists in charge of redistricting. Reducing people to racial voting blocs isn’t progress, it’s regression dressed up in moral language. When politicians treat my skin color as a political forecast, they deny the very individuality the civil rights movement fought to affirm.

    Unfortunately, it seems to work. I think we all know what would happen if black people were popularly believed to vote Republican.

  21. Mojeaux

    Re Ozempic, willpower, weight loss, etc etc etc

    I’m fat. Don’t like the body positivity movement because I don’t want to look at fat people, either. We are not pretty, and I like looking at pretty things.

    I ALSO don’t want to excuse anybody for not at least TRYING to lose weight the old fashioned way, which they will only do if they have something driving them.

    I ALSO don’t want to start blaming it all on factors outside of the fat person’s control, because that might be a part of it, but rarely the whole of it.

    I ALSO don’t want to pay for this shit for other people.

    HOWEVER.

    That food pyramid was the worst thing to ever happen to public health, and it all came about via fraud. Fat bad. Sugar good. And suddenly we’ve got a nation of rolly-pollies who don’t know how to cook and no idea what they were taught was wrong headed for diabetes.

    Now, one can say, “Oh, hey, people before 1967 could control themselves.”

    Bullshit. That’s what Mommy’s Little Helper was for, not to mention the occasional finger down the throat. June Cleaver wasn’t keeping house, cooking three meals a day, baking cakes, and dressing in pearls to do so without the chemical assistance to keep her figure trim.

    Throw in legit factors like genetics, other health factors (hormones, pregnancy, menopause, PCOS), abuse/trauma responses, addiction, and things start getting messy. Yes, they’re real. No, I’m not going to handwave it away like it doesn’t matter.

    • (((Jarflax

      I have lost all my excess weight 3 times by dieting and exercising. I have gained it all back three times and am once again pushing my peak weight. It requires a lifestyle change as total as any Christian rebirth to lose really serious obesity and keep it off. I am also doctor and drug phobic so I have not touched Ozempic because I just don’t trust it not to turn out that it causes something awful down the road. But all of that said, I’d never criticize anyone else for using it, because the whole, “just show some will power” thing assumes everyone faces the same temptations, and they just don’t.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      “Oh, hey, people before 1967 could control themselves.”

      Food was more expensive relative to income. People were more physically active. Lots of people smoked.

      • (((Jarflax

        Air conditioning is another factor.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, yes, I forgot about the smoking. Also, coffee.

    • Bobbo

      Agreed, but JC, wasnt real

      • Mojeaux

        I just love the smell of wElL aCkShUaLlY in the afternoon links. 🙄

  22. The Late P Brooks

    If we could just stop rich people and corporations from stealing so much money from the government we’d have plenty for stuff like free universal health care and free universal child care and free universal food care and free universal education care.

    • (((Jarflax

      If we could just stop progs from breathing so much air we could live in libert… wait, all of a sudden the Theocratic Party, the Farmer’s Blood and Soil Party, and The Wall Street Plutocracy Party are the problem, damned human nature.

    • slumbrew

      Nooooooope.

  23. R.J.

    Look at all these Tonio comments! Nice to see you around!

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Croesus wept

    Tesla announced Thursday that shareholders had voted to approve the biggest pay package in corporate history for CEO Elon Musk, in a deal worth up to $1 trillion over 10 years if the company meets a list of benchmarks such as selling 1 million humanoid robots.

    Over 75% of shareholders voted in favor of the pay package, said Brandon Ehrhart, the company’s general counsel, as Tesla shareholders gathered in person and virtually for their annual meeting.

    They’re going to have to use one of those giant posterboard checks to fit all the zeroes.

    • rhywun

      Imagine how many free bus rides that can buy.

      • Ted S.

        None, but tons of money to the connected GovSec union bosses.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    The proposal resulted in some opposition, including from Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, which noted that Musk’s new shares would dilute existing shares.

    “While we appreciate the significant value created under Mr. Musk’s visionary role, we are concerned about the total size of the award, dilution, and lack of mitigation of key person risk- consistent with our views on executive compensation,” the fund’s manager, Norges Bank Investment Management, said in a statement.

    I guess we can expect them to sell off their shares now.

  26. Ted S.

    My company’s 401K plan is managed by Empower, which today sent out the following Thanksgiving-related email:

    Turkey trade-off

    This Thanksgiving, the tables may be turning, especially when it comes to what’s on the menu.‌

    Nearly half of households (47%) are considering a turkey trade-off, as a premium 16-pound bird comes in at $31.68. Swaps range from roasted chicken (38%) to pizza, burgers, or even fast food (30%) — a shift led by younger generations, according to Empower research.

    Um, how much fast-food are you going to get for that $31.68?

    I picked up one of those 3-pound Butterball pressed turkey breast things for $11.99 this year, and that will be enough for three dinners for Dad and me. Granted, that has no bones unlike the whole bird. But the idea that you’re saving by switching to fast food? Really?

    • Sensei

      It’s marketing crap that all financial services companies put out.

      Don’t pay it too much mind.